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#featurerequest Request for Cover Image caption #featurerequest


 

Paul M.,

Apparently my group's message formatting choice of 'text only' DOES
affect the Wiki Editor.
Not reproduced in my test group.

Changing your Editor Preference on the Preferences page of your Account /will/ affect the creation of new Wiki pages (sets the format of that page).

Clicking on the hamburger menu to show advanced formattng in the Wiki
Editor for a Home page I created shows a second line of formatting but
that line is missing the dropdowns for font, points (size), and for
text color, and highlighting (background color).
I think this may relate to screen width, as Bruce suggested.

Shal


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On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 06:19 PM, Epicatt2 wrote:
No Bruce. I'm using a Macbook Pro with OS 10.11 plus Safari.

As I mentioned I figured out that those 'missing' formatting function buttons don't display because we have our group set to text only. And I see that this extends to the Wiki Page formatting, too.

Your own preferences for your own account don't affect the group settings.

Just change (at least for testing purposes ) in your Account (your name, top right corner). Website Preferences.
This is just a change for your account. You can try to see if you can do what you want and then change it back!?
Will only affect you.

I just tried. Made some text red, chose fonts, etc.
Then changed it back in my own preferences to plain text. It stuck. I can still see the nice formatting!

BTW, I am using a MacBook Pro too, 13 inch - OS 10.15.2
Safari - Version 13.0.4?

Frances
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On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 06:20 PM, Shal Farley wrote:


I think this may relate to screen width, as Bruce suggested.
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Shal, what you suggest is unlikely since my Macbook Pro is a 15-incher. The Wiki page is being displayed in the Safari window full screen . And the image is not enlarged unduly. I also checked that possibility by enlarging and shrinking the image in the window by using [ Command + '+' or '-' ]. Also checked by dragging the window larger and smaller. Neither option caused any truncating of the dropped down formatting menu for the Wiki setup.

It still apears to me that our group's setting to 'text only' must be suppressing those text formatting options. Nor does there seem to be any way to change that in my account's Preferences accessed upper right corner under my name. I even checked there, JIC.

Maybe there's something that I'm still missing which does allow adding those text formatting options/buttons for Wiki but so far I haven't found where/how to enable them.

I do have the sticky Wiki page with a photo displayed at the top of the message page and that's the main thing I was after, after all. I can live wth the two black periods flanikng the photo.

Regards,

Paul M.
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On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 10:14 AM, Epicatt2 wrote:
I also checked that possibility by enlarging and shrinking the image in the window by using [ Command + '+' or '-' ]. Also checked by dragging the window larger and smaller.
Did you refresh the page after changing sizes?? That's caught me a time or two.

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On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 10:14 AM, Epicatt2 wrote:
It still apears to me that our group's setting to 'text only' must be suppressing those text formatting options.
It shouldn't.? I just tested on one of my groups that is text only and the formatting bar has all the tools as long as my account preference is set to html and the window is large enough.

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Paul,


Shal, what you suggest is unlikely since my Macbook Pro is a 15-incher.?

I believe what matters is the pixel width, not the physical width. I've noticed the problem when the window is below around 1000 pixels wide. That said, I'd think a modern machine like that would have more than enough pixels in the default screen size. So maybe there is a problem with how the site's responsive code is interpreting your device's parameters.
I also checked that possibility by enlarging and shrinking the image in the window by using [ Command + '+'? or '-' ].? Also checked by dragging the window larger and smaller.? Neither option caused any truncating of the dropped down formatting menu for the Wiki setup.

One of my complaints with the current setup is that the collection of buttons is "locked in" at the time you open the page. Changing the size or zoom afterward won't cause the missing buttons to appear. This makes it tedious to test the width issue.
Nor does there seem to be any way to change that in my account's Preferences accessed upper right corner under my name.? I even checked there, JIC.

It should be there:
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Note that this only affects a Wiki page when the page is created. Later edits to the page retain the editor preference of its creation.

Shal

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On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 11:46 AM, Duane wrote:
On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 10:14 AM, Epicatt2 wrote:
It still apears to me that our group's setting to 'text only' must be suppressing those text formatting options.
It shouldn't.? I just tested on one of my groups that is text only and the formatting bar has all the tools as long as my account preference is set to html and the window is large enough.

Duane
Epicatt2, I tested the other day and posted here as well. You don't have to change the group's settings. Just your own in Account (top right corner). And I found I could make a change to the wiki with the extra tools, and it remained, even after I changed my editor preference to text. In fact, I could use the functions on previously created pages even after changing to text editor.

Frances




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On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 12:06 PM, Shal Farley wrote:

Note that this only affects a Wiki page when the page is created. Later edits
to the page retain the editor preference of its creation.
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Well Shal, color me extra slooow!, but I finally understood the explanation about changing the Editor option in my Preferences to HTML temporarily. Once I did that yes, the other formatting buttons showed up in the Wiki Formatting Bar under the dropdown menu and I was able to effect the wanted changes.

So thanks to everyone on here who offered me help and suggestions, and also for all the explanations and patient nudging. I never would've figured it out on my own.

And with any luck this extended thread may help out some other newbies who're having a similar problem.

Cheers!

Paul M.
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Instead of periods to force the image display, replace each period with this text:
? ? 

The browser should render this as a space.


 

On Mon, Jan 6, 2020 at 10:26 AM, Laurence Marks wrote:
Instead of periods to force the image display, replace each period with this text:
? ? 
The wiki editor won't accept that. You have to enter some non-whitespace characters.

Bruce


 

On 2020-01-06 at 10:59:06 AM, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:

Instead of periods to force the image display, replace each period with
this text:
&nbsp;
The wiki editor won't accept that. You have to enter some non-whitespace
characters.
If you click on "Show Advanced Toolbar" button (the button looks like ¡Ô) and
then click on "Source code" (the button looks like <>), you can edit the
HTML and add &nbsp;

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On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 12:11 AM, Christopher W. wrote:
If you click on "Show Advanced Toolbar" button (the button looks like ¡Ô) and
then click on "Source code" (the button looks like <>), you can edit the
HTML and add &nbsp;
Yes. But it won't save unless you have some non-whitespace characters.

Try it.

Bruce


 

On 2020-01-06 at 9:30:10 PM, Bruce Bowman <bruce.bowman@...> wrote:

If you click on "Show Advanced Toolbar" button (the button looks like ¡Ô)
and
then click on "Source code" (the button looks like <>), you can edit the
HTML and add &nbsp;
Yes. But it won't save unless you have some non-whitespace characters.
Indeed! My testing was on a page that did have some non-whitespace
characters. I can confirm that a page of just the following won't save.

<p>&nbsp;<img src="/..." />&nbsp;</p>

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