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#featurerequest Request for Cover Image caption #featurerequest


 

Sometimes a cover image is just so interesting that folks would like to know more about it, or maybe you would like to give someone credit for the image, and a host of other reasons.?

Additionally (or optionally), It would also be nice to specificity where the caption goes relative to the image (top, bottom, left, right), its justification (+ or - 90 degrees), its orientation, its color, including the option of being overlaid within the boundary of the image itself.

--Mike


 

In the absence of a cover image caption feature, you could always use a image editing program (e.g., ) to put the desired text right on the image before uploading it.

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On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 10:49 AM Michael L. Stokes <stokes@...> wrote:
Sometimes a cover image is just so interesting that folks would like to know more about it, or maybe you would like to give someone credit for the image, and a host of other reasons.?

Additionally (or optionally), It would also be nice to specificity where the caption goes relative to the image (top, bottom, left, right), its justification (+ or - 90 degrees), its orientation, its color, including the option of being overlaid within the boundary of the image itself.

--Mike


 

To add to Mike's thoughts about captioning the photo on the Home Page (which I believe would be a useful option to have) I would like to report that a number of members on my group when we moved from Y!G to GIO complained about no longer seeing the Masthead Photo on the Message page (which was the case on YGroups).

I've been wondering whether it would be possible or practical to have an option to also show our Home Page (Masthead) photo at the top of the Message page. Would seem to be a reasonably simple thing to do. Don't know how practical is its though from a programming standpont.

It would be interesting to hear other GMF members' thoughts about this.

Just curious . . .

Paul M.
CostaRicaLiving
https: //groups.io/g/CostaRicaLiving
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Mike,

We copied the image.? Went into MS-PAINT (or image editor), picked a font and entered the text.? Located the text to look nice.? Saved the JPG.? Uploaded the image.? Sure, it's different than the way YG did it, but still gets the job done.
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You can see our main page image here ...


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On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 11:28 AM, Epicatt2 wrote:
I've been wondering whether it would be possible or practical to have an option to also show our Home Page (Masthead) photo at the top of the Message page. Would seem to be a reasonably simple thing to do. Don't know how practical is its though from a programming standpont.
Paul -- Create a wiki page with the cover photo in that. If you subsequently make that wiki page sticky (Admin>Settings>Wiki>Sticky Wiki Page) it will display at the top of the messages. Make sure the image is at the very top of the wiki page.

The wiki editor will force you to enter some text, but if you simply flank the image with a couple of periods that seems to satisfy the save dialog and doesn't look too objectionable.

Bruce


 

perhaps instead of having the cover photo as a banner on every page and taking up so much space on our message page, we could have our group icon show at the top of the menu sidebar on every page.? Just the upper left corner, out of tge way of the messages. It would help personalize the group and make our group icon more visible.? ?
I have the sticky wiki page at the top of one of my groups as a banner,. Presently it is only a text statement of our mission statement, but using Bruce's suggestion, I may add the text to a photo and use that as the sticky wiki banner at the top of the pages.

Be aware that a photo or banner at the top of the page takes up space on the message page, so you may be scrolling more and turning pages more because of having it.


 

Bruce,?
Following your idea, I already have a sticky wiki with text.? If I just edit the wiki page at
by adding a photo and allow text as a caption that shoukd work to make ny text more interesting and noticeable.? Is tgere a way I can make the photo smaller and use less space at the top of my pages?


 
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On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 12:13 PM, Janis wrote:
Is tgere a way I can make the photo smaller and use less space at the top of my pages?
Use an image editor to resize/crop it. The narrower it is top-to-bottom, the better...too many pixels in the vertical dimension and the bottom will be cut off.

Bruce


 

On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 11:40 AM, Bruce Bowman wrote:


Paul -- Create a wiki page with the cover photo in that. If you subsequently
make that wiki page sticky (Admin>Settings>Wiki>Sticky Wiki Page) it will
display at the top of the messages. Make sure the image is at the very top of
the wiki page.
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Thanks for that suggestion Bruce. It maybe will mollify my members missing the image on the messages page.

I haven't used Wiki pages yet and so am not fully clear how it all works. In any event we do change our Masthead Photo every so often, so hopefully changing out the photo on that Wiki page will be simple to do. But if it is easy to change just the photo in that Wiki page it sounds like a go.

Comments.... Suggestions?

Paul M.
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On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 12:36 PM, Epicatt2 wrote:
I haven't used Wiki pages yet and so am not fully clear how it all works.
The wiki editor and the online message editor are very similar. Fiddle around with it and I'm sure you'll figure it out.

Bruce


 

On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 12:37 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

The wiki editor and the online message editor are very similar. Fiddle around
with it and I'm sure you'll figure it out.
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Well Bruce, I fiddled around with Wiki for a while and eventually managed to create a suitable page with our masthead photo on it. Thanks for alerting me to the need for [bracketing] text so that the photo would display. I used two periods [ . ]. It would be nice to be able to set that text to 'white' so thosr periods do not show but there is no control to set the text color that I can find.

Now although I have a nice photo to place I cannot figure out how to get the new page with that photo to display on the messages page, much less at the top of the column of posts. There don't seem to be any obvious controls ¨Cnone that I can find anyway¨C which will let me place my new Wiki page at the top there. I'm now at a loss for how to proceed.

BTW, our group is set for 'text only'. Will that be a problem? Maybe that's a stumble.

Paul M.
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Comments? Suggestions? (Pretty please . . . .)

Paul M.
CostaRicaLiving
https: //groups.io/g/CostaRicaLiving
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On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 07:52 PM, Epicatt2 wrote:
Well Bruce, I fiddled around with Wiki for a while and eventually managed to create a suitable page with our masthead photo on it. Thanks for alerting me to the need for [bracketing] text so that the photo would display. I used two periods [ . ]. It would be nice to be able to set that text to 'white' so thosr periods do not show but there is no control to set the text color that I can find.

Now although I have a nice photo to place I cannot figure out how to get the new page with that photo to display on the messages page, much less at the top of the column of posts. There don't seem to be any obvious controls ¨Cnone that I can find anyway¨C which will let me place my new Wiki page at the top there. I'm now at a loss for how to proceed.

BTW, our group is set for 'text only'. Will that be a problem? Maybe that's a stumble.
I will only comment on the question about font colour. In my settings, I can use the "hamburger" menu to open the second line of tools in the wiki (and in messages, as well). It offers font colours. However, I have found that I don't have a full set of tools when I use my iPhone. No choice of font or size. I do on my MacBook.

Frances
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On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 07:52 PM, Epicatt2 wrote:
Now although I have a nice photo to place I cannot figure out how to get the new page with that photo to display on the messages page, much less at the top of the column of posts. There don't seem to be any obvious controls ¨Cnone that I can find anyway¨C which will let me place my new Wiki page at the top there.
Paul -- You have to make the wiki page "sticky," as explained in message #26820. When you do, you'll find that it lies on a grey background. If you want to hide the periods, I've found that using a custom color of RGB = 218:218:218 for the text works adequately.

Bruce


 

On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 08:15 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

Paul -- You have to make the wiki page "sticky," as explained in message
#26820 ( /g/GroupManagersForum/message/26820 ). When you do,
you'll find that it lies on a grey background. If you want to hide the
periods, I've found that using a custom color of RGB = 218:218:218 for the
text works adequately.
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Bruce,

Well... Some more fiddling around and I finally found & got the 'sticky wiki' function to work. Still haven't figured out what the maximum image size is cuz when I make the image larger the bottom portion is cut off. a horizontally an image ratio of 3:1 is either too small or, enlarged the bottom gets cut off. With a 5:1 ratio that works better and can be slightly larger than the 3:1 image without cutting off the bottom.

Looks like trial and error will be the way to figure that ratio/size part out.

As to text color, there doesn't seem to be any text/background color control button anywhere. As mentioned earlier, perhaps it's because our group is set to text only. Or I'm just not looking in the right place for the color control.

So far so good. At least I can now put a photo at the top of the message page.

Cheers!

Paul M.
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On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 01:12 AM, Epicatt2 wrote:
Looks like trial and error will be the way to figure that ratio/size part out.
Paul -- I haven't played with it enough to advise on you that. Optimum width will probably vary between desktop/mobile, too.

As to text color, there doesn't seem to be any text/background color control button anywhere.
Click the far right icon to open the Advanced Toolbar (see screenshot below). At that point you should get text color and background color icons.



As mentioned earlier, perhaps it's because our group is set to text only.?
That Message Formatting setting affects the message editor but not the wiki editor.

Bruce


 

Thanks for the Editing Wiki info, Bruce.

Apparently my group's message formatting choice of 'text only' DOES affect the Wiki Editor.

Clicking on the hamburger menu to show advanced formattng in the Wiki Editor for a Home page I created shows a second line of formatting but that line is missing the dropdowns for font, points (size), and for text color, and highlighting (background color).

Looks like we'll just have to live with that if we want to keep 'text only' status for our group.

Thanks for all the suggestions, Bruce. They helped me deal with the 'problems' I was having with creating a Sticky Wiki.

Hopefully all the info in this topic will help other GIO owners and moderators who find themselves in a similar situation.

Cheers!

Paul M.
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On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 08:56 AM, Epicatt2 wrote:
Clicking on the hamburger menu to show advanced formattng in the Wiki Editor for a Home page I created shows a second line of formatting but that line is missing the dropdowns for font, points (size), and for text color, and highlighting (background color).
Are you trying to do this on mobile? Those icons will disappear if the screen width is too narrow.

Bruce


 

On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 08:56 AM, Epicatt2 wrote:
Apparently my group's message formatting choice of 'text only' DOES affect the Wiki Editor.

Clicking on the hamburger menu to show advanced formattng in the Wiki Editor for a Home page I created shows a second line of formatting but that line is missing the dropdowns for font, points (size), and for text color, and highlighting (background color).

Looks like we'll just have to live with that if we want to keep 'text only' status for our group.
Aren't the only places to choose plain text -
- in Admin, Settings, Attachments - and that doesn't affect the wiki tools

- and in your subscription - in Preferences - that does affect the wiki tools.
But it is only for just your own subscription, not the group.

At least I cannot find it.

There are these:
Force HTML Emails
Make all emails HTML and remove the plain text digest option. (doesn't affect the wiki editing tools)
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Normalize HTML Emails
Strip all different fonts and colors from HTML emails. (doesn't affect the wiki editing tools)

Frances

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On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 08:58 AM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 08:56 AM, Epicatt2 wrote:
Clicking on the hamburger menu to show advanced formattng in the Wiki Editor for a Home page I created shows a second line of formatting but that line is missing the dropdowns for font, points (size), and for text color, and highlighting (background color).
Are you trying to do this on mobile? Those icons will disappear if the screen width is too narrow.

This works fine on an iPad (9.7 inch) on both mobile and desktop version.?

But not on my iPhone 11, not in either orientation.?

Frances


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On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 08:58 AM, Bruce Bowman wrote:


Are you trying to do this on mobile? Those icons will disappear if the screen
width is too narrow.
No Bruce. I'm using a Macbook Pro with OS 10.11 plus Safari.

As I mentioned I figured out that those 'missing' formatting function buttons don't display because we have our group set to text only. And I see that this extends to the Wiki Page formatting, too.

Now that I know this I can live with it.

And once again, thanx for all the good advice, Bruce. I learned a lot.

Cheers!

Paul M.
CostaRicaLiving
https: //groups.io/g/CostaRicaLiving
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