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Hi,
When you create a custom invite, io adds a header and a footer to the message.? Ok we can live with that you have to cover yourselves with certain words.
But I have an issue.? Even though we want to send out a batch invite to all of our old YG members, we want to have to approve their memberships. So if they click on our link in the message or reply to the email invite
all is well.? They will show up in our queue as pending.??We do have our group settings set to subscriptions require approval
But in your footer you say:
To accept the invitation, please reply to this email, or you may on the website.
If they click on the link "accept the invitation" they automatically become a member of our group, no approval needed, boom they are in.? That's not good for us. (I know we invited but we still want to do some screening)? We want to see what
they put in their profile.? That they put in a display name and that their signature they put in, if they do, does not violate our policies.? Although with a big group we hope will join (approximately 10,000 members) we cant police ongoing signature issues
unless reported or seen, we can head them off to begin with with requiring all approvals.
So...? can we have that link removed from the footer of the invitation?
We would also like say the invite is coming from the Administrators rather than the particular person that is sending the invitation.? I as an owner sending the invitation, you insert my name as the person inviting.? I'd rather it say the Administrator
or Owner and not my name.? But the other issue is more important.? I can probably temporarily change my display name and send out the invites and then change my display name back.? But is that really needed?
Thanks for any help if we can delete that link from the invite if possible.?
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On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 12:45 AM, Cindy in DE wrote:
If they click on the link "accept the invitation" they automatically become a member of our group, no approval needed, boom they are in.
First of all, no one from GIO management is on this group.? If you want to make suggestions for changes or improvements, you need to post on the . An invitation assumes that you've already checked people out and want them on your group, so acceptance allows them in.? If you need to do more pre-checking, you'll need to do it before sending an invitation.? You could send an email (from a personal/club/business address) with a link to join the group, then use the Pending Subscriber notice to ask specific questions when they apply. To "fix" the From problem, you can temporarily change your Display Name to something like Owner, send the invitations, then change it back.? I know of several people that have done this.? It's inconvenient, but shouldn't be needed too often. Duane -- GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiHelp: /static/helpSearch button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions
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On 05 Jan 2020 13:09, Duane wrote: An invitation assumes that you've already checked people out and want
them on your group, so acceptance allows them in. No, I disagree. An invitation is simply a way to facilitate joining the group. The fact that you "invite" someone doesn't mean that you know them or that you have already vetted them or that you already know everything about them. In fact, it's often better to invite before vetting, because you don't know in advance if the person will accept the invitation, and if they don't, then you've wasted the time spent on vetting. A common invitation scenario is when someone hears about the group from someone else, and then that person requests that you send the person an invitation. This means that the invited person does come with some kind of recommendation, but it doesn't yet mean the person is now vetted. Another common scenario is when someone wants to join but struggles to understand how to join. Not everyone understands the concept of issuing commands to a server by sending mail to special kinds of addresses. If you need to do more pre-checking, you'll need to do it before
sending an invitation. Yes, that is the way Groups.io currently forces us to do it, but that does not make it logical or ideal. Samuel
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On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 12:38 PM, Samuel Murray wrote:
Another common scenario is when someone wants to join but struggles to understand how to join. Not everyone understands the concept of issuing commands to a server by sending mail to special kinds of addresses.
Um. What's difficult about clicking on "Join this Group"? Your point about "not understanding the concept..." has some validity but IMHO there has to be some assumption of basic IT skills, and a willingness to learn more. Just how basic do people want Groups.io to be? Chris
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My experience with invites is that the invitee wants to know the the invite is real and not spam. If you use a generic email address and name they question if the invite is real. I put my real name and even my phone number. Even then I will get a call to check to see if it is real. Tom
On Sun, Jan 5, 2020, 7:21 AM Chris Jones via Groups.Io <chrisjones12= [email protected]> wrote: On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 12:38 PM, Samuel Murray wrote:
Another common scenario is when someone wants to join but struggles to understand how to join. Not everyone understands the concept of issuing commands to a server by sending mail to special kinds of addresses.
Um. What's difficult about clicking on "Join this Group"? Your point about "not understanding the concept..." has some validity but IMHO there has to be some assumption of basic IT skills, and a willingness to learn more. Just how basic do people want Groups.io to be?
Chris
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On 05 Jan 2020 14:08, Chris Jones via Groups.Io wrote: Your point about "not understanding the concept..." has some validity
but IMHO there has to be /some/ assumption of basic IT skills, and a
willingness to learn more. No, I don't think it's fair to expect of potential users to have a specific type of computer skill before they're allowed to join. Though obviously, moderators love users who are able to help themselves. Not everyone who uses computers every day knows much about computers. One problem is that users who struggle, often do not ask for help. When such users hit a barrier, they simply abandon their attempt to join, which means that the value of their participation is lost to the group. Just how basic do people want Groups.io to be? I know that that was meant as a rhetorical question, but allow me to answer it: this simple: all you need, is to send mails. The gnomes takes care of the rest. Samuel
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On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 07:42 AM, Samuel Murray wrote:
I know that that was meant as a rhetorical question, but allow me to
answer it: this simple: all you need, is to send mails.
Um, that's the way it works now.? I have many members that have never been to the web site, doing everything via email. Duane -- GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiHelp: /static/helpSearch button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions
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On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 07:09 AM, Duane wrote:
You could send an email (from a personal/club/business address) with a link to join the group, then use the Pending Subscriber notice to ask specific questions when they apply.
?We often employ this choice and it's become a smooth process. "We" being either the group owner or myself, as mod. One of us sends an email?from our personal or chapter email address to the email address we have been given by a third person. The email we send contains a link to our group's GIO home page. Once there,?they can request to join and?that triggers an email from GIO which requires them to answer a few questions to validate their membership in our organization and their identify. If they respond we know the email address is a "good" one.? On the other hand, if we already have knowledge and have confirmed their membership status, their identify and the fact that both are linked to a working and active email address, then we send an Join Invitation email and they are added as soon as they click that link.? Computer skills and the desire to become more familiar with GIO is an entirely different matter. At the very minimum, they need to use email. It still surprises me how many people have a email address and don't understand how to manage their email account or how an email address empowers them to do things online. Some aren't really sure what their email address or mistype it which is why we validate it before sending invitations to join.? BTW, one of the reasons we formed a group is to mentor our members in the computer skills they need to perform in their (non profit) volunteer role. -- Sandi Dickenson Moderator of ASG Volunteers Group
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On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 12:09 PM, Duane wrote:
An invitation assumes that you've already checked people out and want them on your group, so acceptance allows them in.? If you need to do more pre-checking, you'll need to do it before sending an invitation.
I thought about this for quite some time when out walking the dog. :) If someone applies "out of the blue" and provides a response to the Pending Subscription message in some way that is unsatisfactory (for want of a better word) then they can have their application rejected; no problem. But to my way of thinking inviting someone to join and then rejecting them for some reason seems somehow dishonourable or perhaps just plain rude. I can just see the point that Cindy made in her post, but only just. Obviously this is a purely personal opinion but sometimes the degree of control that Owners seem to want to exercise crosses the border into micromanagement. Chris
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I'm sorry if I implied that I was asking for a change in the IO program or platform the way it is working at this point in time. I was merely asking if there was a way that we could change this link in an existing setting somewhere.? This is
where everyone is asking help questions including me and I have been pointed to where to go to do things I've asked about before so I thought there may be an existing way i could do this now.? I can put in a change request but this is basically a 1 time thing
for us at this point to get people (10,000) over from YG in 1 invite notice to everyone at one time.? And we need to do it now.? So I'm truely sorry for ruffling feathers with my question.
But adding to the discussion since it's out there, Id like to explain more about why we would want this.
?I'd in addition not like them to automatically show up as a member because of one of their default settings.? We use default settings like everyone else.? One we use is set to individual emails.? The majority of our members use this but others
get upset about this filling up their inbox and either dont know how to change it and arent computer literate enough to even follow directions (giving them directions through direct email however long it takes so they know they can change other things), I
know we can change it for them upon request.? But some dont know it can be changed to digest, summary or special notices? and other things like signature and username (we dont allow no email because we want them to get admin messages)? so some people get mad,
putting it politely, or are just confused and just unsubscribe because of it.? If they arent automatically put in as a member they can see these choices and pick what they want to begin with.? We dont want people getting mad and just unsubscribing.? Without
the automatic add then they can change our defaults where allowed.
We are a local freecycle group which people give away free things to other people in the community (we are not part of the freecycle.org organization).? A lot of our members are seniors clearing out usable things in their homes keeping things
our of the landfill.? ( one of our goals) Those seniors are not computer literate so stepping them through the "application" process is helpful for them to understand a little.? All they basically know after that is offering and replying via email and all
of that works perfectly well.? A little knowledge ahead of time and changing defaults if desired is given here helping out our many seniors.
The other is the signature part because everything is FREE and people arent allowed solicit their business in their signature.? Those younger members who are still working and may have their own businesses. They tend to put in their business
information in the signature even though the are giving away free items.? So we want to head that off from the beginning.
And the display name is from an issue in YG that we just want filled out now here on IO.? It'spreference group preferance.
I just wanted to add my 2 cents in because people are now discussing reasons back and forth.
And now I know my answer is no.? So thank you I appreciate your response.
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Date: 1/5/20 7:09 AM (GMT-05:00)
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On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 12:45 AM, Cindy in DE wrote:
If they click on the link "accept the invitation" they automatically become a member of our group, no approval needed, boom they are in.
First of all, no one from GIO management is on this group.? If you want to make suggestions for changes or improvements, you need to post on the
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An invitation assumes that you've already checked people out and want them on your group, so acceptance allows them in.? If you need to do more pre-checking, you'll need to do it before sending an invitation.? You could send an email (from a personal/club/business
address) with a link to join the group, then use the to ask specific questions when they apply.
To "fix" the From problem, you can temporarily change your Display Name to something like Owner, send the invitations, then change it back.? I know of several people that have done this.? It's inconvenient, but shouldn't be needed too often.
Duane
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On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 01:28 PM, Cindy in DE wrote:
We dont want people getting mad and just unsubscribing.? Without the automatic add then they can change our defaults where allowed.
I don't know if it would help, but when someone unsubscribes, they're offered the option to change delivery to Special Notices Only or Daily Summary.
The other is the signature part because everything is FREE and people arent allowed solicit their business in their signature.? Those younger members who are still working and may have their own businesses. They tend to put in their business information in the signature even though the are giving away free items.? So we want to head that off from the beginning.
And the display name is from an issue in YG that we just want filled out now here on IO.
Keep on mind that anyone can change their signature or Display Name for the group at any time. Duane -- GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiHelp: /static/helpSearch button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions
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Thanks, yes that might help for them to see that notice about changing their delivery options.
And yes I do know that they can go in and change their signature but it is in hope that if it is taken out to begin with most will realize they weren't supposed to have it and wont go put it back in.? But that may not be a deterrence to who
knows how many members.? Hoping policing it after becoming a member by taking it out to begin with will be less.? Whenever it is caught or reported afterward, it will be taken out again and then an email sent to the member to not put it back in.? And they
will be put on a monitored list we create.
Thanks again?
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On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 01:28 PM, Cindy in DE wrote:
We dont want people getting mad and just unsubscribing.? Without the automatic add then they can change our defaults where allowed.
I don't know if it would help, but when someone unsubscribes, they're offered the option to change delivery to Special Notices Only or Daily Summary.
The other is the signature part because everything is FREE and people arent allowed solicit their business in their signature.? Those younger members who are still working and may have their own businesses. They tend to put in their business information
in the signature even though the are giving away free items.? So we want to head that off from the beginning.
And the display name is from an issue in YG that we just want filled out now here on IO.
Keep on mind that anyone can change their signature or Display Name for the group at any time.
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On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 11:45 PM, Cindy in DE wrote:
When you create a custom invite, io adds a header and a footer to the message...? Even though we want to send out a batch invite to all of our old YG members, we want to have to approve their memberships.
If they click on the link "accept the invitation" they automatically become a member of our group, no approval needed, boom they are in.? That's not good for us. (I know we invited but we still want to do some screening)...We would also like say the invite is coming from the Administrators rather than the particular person that is sending the invitation.?
Cindy, Rather than using the GIO invitation process, would it work to batch send a custom message from a non-GIO group address to the former YG members with a link to the GIO group homepage, with instructions to click on the "Request to Join" button?? Then you could use the GIO Pending Subscription feature to screen applicants before accepting them as members, and the first message moderation feature to verify their adherence to your signature requirements, etc.? You could create a temporary email account that reflected your Administrators status (rather than use a personal account) to use as the sending address for this purpose.? I don't know if these suggestions will suit your purpose, but I hadn't seen anyone offer this idea yet. Just another GIO user with limited knowledge, Dotty
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Cindy, I belong to 2 FreeCycle groups on Cape Cod, one of which is "Official". There is a tremendous variance in IT capability between users. Some are like 'novice car drivers who just got their Learners Permit' and don't really know how to drive yet, but are eager. Some even require some one else to print out email messages so that they can read them, because they don't want to do something wrong on a computer. Others are so competent and knowledgable and 'know that anyone can do anything', but just don't understand how many have problems because they don't understand the confusing jargon (IT language). There is a tension between making Groups.io accessible to everyone versus comfortable to those who don't want to be hindered by 'dumbing it down' too much. I favor using words as they are more commonly used in Real Life (which is not always the same as in the IT world) so that the most people will use Groups.io. There are so many options which many (including me) don't understand because of the verbiage. It sounds like you are asking to modify the Invitation feature (which is designed to be like a Party Invitation which is only sent to people you want to attend). I think this use of Invite is intuitive. I would say you want to ask people to Apply To Join. Entitle your email message: "Join the relocated FreeCycle group for Delaware" or "Join the new, improved FreeCycle group for Delaware". Include an explanation of why they would want to join. Explain how to do it by sending an email to < [email protected]>, or to visit your Groups.io webpage and click on "Apply For Membership In This Group". Here's information about how to vet people who Apply To Join /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Screening-New-Members-Using-the-Pending-Subscription-NoticeYou may or may not want to include more information, possibly: As it is currently not clearly spelled out I would also describe the process: 1) to 'get started' with Groups.io: - They will have to reply to a Groups.io Account Confirmation email which only confirms that they are able to receive emails from Groups.io 2) and then to subscribe to your Restricted Groups.io group: - They will receive a "Pending Subscription" email which asks questions that they need to respond to be approved to join the group (SPAM protection, etc). /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Joining-a-groupSubscription options /static/help#subscription-optionsNOTE: sometimes email messages may be misdirected to their SPAM, Junk, and Trash folders, so: - users should check their SPAM, Junk, and Trash folders every time they check their Inbox (at least once a day). - always unmark and move any Groups.io email marked as SPAM or Junk to their Inbox - then read and/or delete it - never mark a Groups.io email as SPAM or Junk - instead report offending messages to their Group < [email protected]> - explain about 'being removed for marking Groups.io emails as SPAM' and the restoration process /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Removed-for-spamFind even more information in the incomplete, but growing GMF WIKI: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/homeMichael
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Cindy, I can put in a change request but this is basically a 1 time
thing for us at this point to get people (10,000) over from YG in 1
invite notice to everyone at one time. And we need to do it now. Hmm... I like Dotty's suggestion to use a mechanism other than Groups.io's invite, but that will be at least tedious to accomplish with over 10,000 addresses. Last time I did something like this (several years ago) Gmail would only allow me to BCC 200 addresses at a time, so that would be 50 messages. Your experience with other email services may vary. An advantage (or maybe disadvantage) of Dotty's suggestion to direct the "invitees" to the group's home page is that when the person clicks the Request button they are taken to a page where they enter their email address for confirmation. The person could take this opportunity to abandon an old address in favor of a their preferred address. The downside is that if they do so it will be more difficult for you to track them for approval. We use default settings like everyone else. One we use is set to
individual emails. The majority of our members use this but others
get upset about this filling up their inbox and either dont know how
to change it ... A true advantage for your use case is that (if I remember correctly) upon confirmation of their email address they will be taken to a page where they can set their subscription options. This puts the choices before them, so they don't need extra instruction in how to find and set their subscription. It will initially show what you've set in the group's Default Sub Settings page but each person can override that choice in favor of Digest (or whatever) if they choose. And this happens while they are still Pending (not yet receiving any group messages). The other is the signature part because everything is FREE and people
arent allowed solicit their business in their signature. The signatures that Groups.io can optionally apply to members' messages are part of the member's Subscription, but I don't recall for certain if they are included in that landing page from the Request button. Those younger members who are still working and may have their own
businesses. They tend to put in their business information in the
signature even though the are giving away free items. So we want to
head that off from the beginning. Those members probably have their work signatures set in their email interface. Groups.io doesn't have a capability to strip those out of any messages they post by email. And the display name is from an issue in YG that we just want filled
out now here on IO. I believe you can adjust that as needed while the member is still Pending approval. I'd like to say I've re-tested all of this for you, but I haven't. To truly test it I'd have to go create a new email address which hasn't been seen by Groups.io before, or delete the account associated with one of mine which has. Shal -- Help: /static/helpMore Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiEven More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list
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Hi Everybody! :)
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What a commotion I have caused, hahaha. I didn't mean to make this become such a big deal.? I just wanted to know if I could take out that "accept the invitation" link.? Then I would deal with the answer I got (hoping yes, haha)
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I think giving reasons for asking if there is a way to do that has caused a lot of commotion, a lot of discussion, a lot of debating. I don't know whether the moderators here think that is good or bad as a result.? Or as in the beginning should it be requested as a change and talked about elsewhere.
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I am perfectly happy with the way we can invite people through IO. I think it works well with the testing that I've done. But I've not done it with a huge number of people yet so that's left to be determined...? but I don't expect any problems.
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I had written the custom invitation message to our members we want to invite using the IO custom invitation method. And we intend to use it with a file that we upload with all of the approximate 10,000 members emails and usernames that we downloaded from YG.
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I did a lot of testing of the links that we put in for what we would like them to click on and sign up or reply to the invitation to sign up. Both of those work perfectly.
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However that one Link at the bottom "accept the invitation" surpasses them entering the information that we would like them to see or maybe they would like to see to change, edit, whatever to begin with.
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So given the no you cant take that out answer, I'm just going to hope that the people actually read what I have written and click on the link I have provided them or reply to the invitation as I say they can also do (and IO says that too in the footer) and they just dont get that far down to read that other link at the bottom.
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Shal, I've done a ton of testing of the invite with adding and removing 2 accounts (add/delete to both our group and IO) so many times I thought at one point one of them must have been flagged or something because it stopped working.? But I think it was the email server because things got back to normal.? That email address is a Comcast.net address that gets forwarded to an MSN.com address.? (For receiving emails)
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And Michael, glad to hear there are other freecyclers in the group, and thank you very much for the information.? I have already written my invitation pretty much the way you described addressing it to the old YG members and inviting them personally.? And? taking the time to write it to our particular audience of miscellaneous experience of members as you described. Our IO group is set to subscribers require approval.? And IO is assuming we sent the invite to someone we already approve.? If you check on the link you provided for pending subscription notice, it says you cant use it with an invitation.
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So, I'm cool with everything.? I like the IO invite, I can customize my invitation message, I can upload my file of approximately 10,000 (and then maybe another for approximately 3,000 TBD for other reasons) all at one time, I can emphasize my links and instructions so hopefully the members will click on those or reply to the invitation sent as instructed to.? And hopefully will not click on the other link but if they do then I'll figure it out.
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Thanks everybody, all of the suggestions have been great.? I've learned a lot for sure.
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Happy New Year and good luck with your IO Groups!
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Date: 1/5/20 6:48 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [GMF] Custom Invite Question
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Cindy,
?> I can put in a change request but this is basically a 1 time
?> thing for us at this point to get people (10,000) over from YG in 1
?> invite notice to everyone at one time.? And we need to do it now.
Hmm...
I like Dotty's suggestion to use a mechanism other than Groups.io's
invite, but that will be at least tedious to accomplish with over 10,000
addresses. Last time I did something like this (several years ago) Gmail
would only allow me to BCC 200 addresses at a time, so that would be 50
messages. Your experience with other email services may vary.
An advantage (or maybe disadvantage) of Dotty's suggestion to direct the
"invitees" to the group's home page is that when the person clicks the
Request button they are taken to a page where they enter their email
address for confirmation. The person could take this opportunity to
abandon an old address in favor of a their preferred address. The
downside is that if they do so it will be more difficult for you to
track them for approval.
?> We use default settings like everyone else.? One we use is set to
?> individual emails.? The majority of our members use this but others
?> get upset about this filling up their inbox and either dont know how
?> to change it ...
A true advantage for your use case is that (if I remember correctly)
upon confirmation of their email address they will be taken to a page
where they can set their subscription options. This puts the choices
before them, so they don't need extra instruction in how to find and set
their subscription.
It will initially show what you've set in the group's Default Sub
Settings page but each person can override that choice in favor of
Digest (or whatever) if they choose. And this happens while they are
still Pending (not yet receiving any group messages).
?> The other is the signature part because everything is FREE and people
?> arent allowed solicit their business in their signature.
The signatures that Groups.io can optionally apply to members' messages
are part of the member's Subscription, but I don't recall for certain if
they are included in that landing page from the Request button.
?> Those younger members who are still working and may have their own
?> businesses. They tend to put in their business information in the
?> signature even though the are giving away free items.? So we want to
?> head that off from the beginning.
Those members probably have their work signatures set in their email
interface. Groups.io doesn't have a capability to strip those out of any
messages they post by email.
?> And the display name is from an issue in YG that we just want filled
?> out now here on IO.
I believe you can adjust that as needed while the member is still
Pending approval.
I'd like to say I've re-tested all of this for you, but I haven't. To
truly test it I'd have to go create a new email address which hasn't
been seen by Groups.io before, or delete the account associated with one
of mine which has.
Shal
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On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 09:05 PM, Cindy in DE wrote:
I can customize my invitation message
Since it will go above the 'accept' link, make your part long enough to force that way down the page. ;>)? Make your own link larger and bold to stand out.? Wish you luck and hope things turn out well. Duane -- GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiHelp: /static/helpSearch button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions
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Hi Cindy,
I think giving reasons for asking if there is a way to do that has caused a lot of commotion, a lot of discussion, a lot of debating. I don't know whether the moderators here think that is good or bad as a result.
Generally speaking we're fine with discussing alternative ways to achieve a desired result and their pros and cons. That kind of brainstorming can be helpful to other readers as well as to the original poster.
So given the no you cant take that out answer, I'm just going to hope that the people actually read what I have written ...
One thing that might help, and maybe you've already found it, is the Horizontal line button in the second row of the formatting toolbar.
I've found that putting the group's customized text inside lines can help draw the invitee's attention.
I think this technique also helps draw attention away from the boilerplate text by clearly separating it from the customized text.
Our IO group is set to subscribers require approval.? And IO is assuming we sent the invite to someone we already approve.? If you check on the link you provided for pending subscription notice, it says you cant use it with an invitation.
The Pending Subscription notice won't be sent if the invitee accepts the invitation, but it will be sent if the recipient uses the home page button or the +subscribe command to join on their own. Presumably your are instructing them to use one of those two methods. Note that there are two ways for the recipient to accept the invitation: they can click the link in the boilerplate or simply reply to the invitation by email. If you look at the invitation as received you will notice that the From address is specially coded to accomplish the acceptance for that particular invitee. Shal GMF Moderator ? -- Help: /static/helpMore Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiEven More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list
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Unless you deleted the Yahoo group wouldn't it be simpler to post the message/invite to the Yahoo group? Preface with 'If you haven't already joined us at groups.io ' perhaps? Late to the discussion I know but just a thought.
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