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Is it possible to mute hashtags? In many cases that would be more accurate than muting subject lines, which can vary almost randomly.
For example, I live in a community that has frequent requests for dog walking for people in the hospital. I am not likely to ever walk a dog. I would like to mute the #dogwalking hashtag forever. Others want to mute #meals or #childcare.
Is this important to others?
Sharon
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Sharon Villines, Washington, DC
"As long as you have two or fewer, your ducks are always in a row." The Covert Comic
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On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 09:09 am, Duane wrote: Yes, you can mute hashtags: /g/GroupManagersForum/message/120
( /g/GroupManagersForum/message/120??? )? They can also
be muted by using the link at the bottom of an email I've read in the Help section: "Muting: Group members who read their messages via email can click on ¡°Mute¡± for any hashtag at the bottom of the email to stop receiving messages tagged with that hashtag." Does this apply only to "All messages" delivery option? At the bottom of each email of my GMF digests there is a "Mute this Topic" link, not a "Mute this Hashtag". This happens even when an email (within the digest) is tagged with an hashtag. Marina
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Marina, At the bottom of each email of my GMF digests there is a "Mute this
Topic" link, not a "Mute this Hashtag". This happens even when an
email (within the digest) is tagged with an hashtag. I see what you mean; I don't see a reason it shouldn't be there. That could be an oversight; you could suggest it in the beta group. A related omission has already been posted, you could reply to that to point out the omitted per-message links: Shal
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Thank you, Shal.
I pointed out the omission in Beta Group as suggested.
I must confess that I find it a bit difficult to manage Groups.io features. They are more complex that YG's ones. I wouldn't worry so much if weren't a group owner. But I know that at some point my members will turn to me for assistance in their own language.
For instance, I still haven't been able to figure out how to follow or mute topics and hashtags from the web.
At the bottom of each message in Digest there is a Mute this Topic link but not a Follow this Topic link.
In Groups.io Help, under the section Muting and Following, I read:
"In addition to the above subscription options, you have the option to mute individual discussion threads and hashtags. In the footer of each email is a link to mute the thread. And from the website, you can mute hashtags."
I find it a bit cryptic.
How do I mute hashtags from the website?
How do I follow specific topics or hashtags?
Under Subscription>Membership>Advanced Preferences I found a
Following Only option
"Only the messages in threads or hashtags you have chosen to follow are emailed to you, according to your Email Delivery Selection."
"Chosen to follow" means "that you have chosen not to mute"?
This is killing me.
Marina
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On Feb 11, 2018, at 8:47 AM, Marina <moderatore@...> wrote:
Under Subscription>Membership>Advanced Preferences I found a
Following Only option
"Only the messages in threads or hashtags you have chosen to follow are emailed to you, according to your Email Delivery Selection."
"Chosen to follow" means "that you have chosen not to mute¡±?
I was confused by this too. Where does a member choose to follow? People will interpret it as having set an option somewhere and wonder if they are getting all the messages. Sharon
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Here is some tentative documentation I've written about muting and following. It hasn't been reviewed by anyone yet and there are several open questions I still have about it, but this should do for now.
J
----------------------------- You have the option to mute, or conversely, specifically follow, individual topics
and hashtags.
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Muting topics and
hashtags
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You
can choose not to receive emails from a specific topic, or with a certain
hashtag, by clicking on the ¡°Mute This Topic¡± or the ¡°Mute [#hashtag-name]¡± link
at the bottom of any email in the topic or with the hashtag. (Note: some
hashtags in a group may be coded by moderators to be unmutable.) Muting a topic
or hashtag ensures that you will not receive any more of the emails from that
topic or hashtag. If your Email Delivery method is Daily Summary, Plain Digest,
or Full Featured Digest, your summary or digest will filter out those messages
and not contain them.
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When
muting a hashtag, you are given the opportunity to pick which group you¡¯re
muting it in (in case the hashtag exists in more than one of your groupsYou
will also be able to specify a duration for the muting, for example, ¡°Forever,¡±
¡°One Hour,¡± etc.
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You
can see all the topics and hashtags you have muted by going to the home page
and clicking on ¡°Muted¡± under either ¡°Topics¡± or ¡°Hashtags,¡±
respectively. You can also mute a new hashtag by going to the list of muted
hashtags (¡°Muted¡± under ¡°Hashtags¡±) and clicking on ¡°+Mute a New Hashtag.¡±
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¡°Unmuting¡± a topic or
hashtag
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To
¡°unmute¡± a topic or hashtag you have muted, go the home page, click
on ¡°Muted¡± on under either ¡°Topics¡± or ¡°Hashtags,¡± respectively, to bring a
list of the ones you have muted, click on the topic or hashtag you want to
unmute, and click on ¡°Unmute This Topic¡± or ¡°Unmute This Hashtag,¡±
respectively.
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Following topics and hashtags
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Instead
of excluding topics and hashtags by muting them, you can start from the ground
up, picking out exclusively the ones you want to receive by ¡°following¡± them.
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To
set up your subscription for following topics or hashtags, click on ¡°Advanced
Preferences¡± from your Subscription page, and under ¡°Message Selection,¡± select
¡°Following Only.¡± You can also click on ¡°First Message Also,¡± which will ensure
that in addition to messages in topics you specifically follow, you also receive
the first message in any new topic. A second option, ¡°Auto Follow Replies,¡± will
add to your ¡°Followed¡± list any topic you start or reply to.
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After
you¡¯ve set up your delivery to ¡°Following Only,¡± you can pick the topics and/or
hashtags you want to follow. The methods for following topics and following
hashtags are slightly different from each other:
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Following a topic
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To
follow a topic, go to the home page . Under ¡°Topics,¡± click on ¡°All¡±
to bring up a list of all the topics in the totality of your groups. To follow
a topic, click on it, and then on ¡°Follow This Topic.¡±
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Following a hashtag
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To
follow a hashtag, go to the home page . Under ¡°Hashtags,¡± click on
¡°Muted,¡± and then on ¡°+Follow a New Hashtag.¡± Enter the name of the hashtag (be
sure to include the # sign), the group name in which you want to follow it, and
the duration (¡°forever,¡± ¡°one hour,¡± etc.).
You
can see all the topics and hashtags you have followed by going to the home page
and clicking on ¡°Followed¡± under ¡°Topics¡± or ¡°Hashtags,¡±
respectively.
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Unfollowing topics and
hashtags you have followed
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There
are two ways to unfollow a topic or a hashtag you have followed. You can click
on ¡°Unfollow This Topic¡± or ¡°Unfollow [#hashtag=name]¡± at the bottom of any
email in the topic or with the hashtag, respectively. Or, you can go to the
home page , find the topic or hashtag in your ¡°Followed¡± list, click
on it, and then click on ¡°Unfollow This Topic¡± or ¡°Unfollow This Hashtag.¡±
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On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 6:53 AM, Sharon Villines <sharon@...> wrote: On Feb 11, 2018, at 8:47 AM, Marina <moderatore@...> wrote:
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> Under Subscription>Membership>Advanced Preferences I found a
> Following Only option
> "Only the messages in threads or hashtags you have chosen to follow are emailed to you, according to your Email Delivery Selection."
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> "Chosen to follow" means "that you have chosen not to mute¡±?
I was confused by this too. Where does a member choose to follow?
People will interpret it as having set an option somewhere and wonder if they are getting all the messages.
Sharon
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Thank you, J_Catlady. To follow a topic, go to the home page groups.io. Under ¡°Topics,¡± click on
¡°All¡± to bring up a list of all the topics in the totality of your groups.
To follow a topic, click on it, and then on ¡°Follow This Topic.¡± Since the groups.io page shows a list of your groups, it would be easier to have the opportunity to select just the group whose topics you wish to manage. Otherwise, if you are member of several groups you get a jungle of topics. *Following a hashtag*
To follow a hashtag, go to the home page groups.io. Under ¡°Hashtags,¡±
click
on ¡°Muted,¡± and then on ¡°+Follow a New Hashtag.¡± Enter the name of the
hashtag (be sure to include the # sign), the group name in which you want
to follow it, and the duration (¡°forever,¡± ¡°one hour,¡± etc.). I throw in the towel. This is really too tortuous for my average members. I think I'll just tell them to go on like they did on Yahoo, setting up a filter in their own email client. Marina
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You can make suggestions in the beta group.?
On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 8:51 AM, Marina <moderatore@...> wrote: Thank you, J_Catlady.
> To follow a topic, go to the home page . Under ¡°Topics,¡± click on
> ¡°All¡± to bring up a list of all the topics in the totality of your groups.
> To follow a topic, click on it, and then on ¡°Follow This Topic.¡±
Since the page shows a list of your groups, it would be easier to have the opportunity to select just the group whose topics you wish to manage.
Otherwise, if you are member of several groups you get a jungle of topics.
> *Following a hashtag*
> To follow a hashtag, go to the home page . Under ¡°Hashtags,¡±
> click
> on ¡°Muted,¡± and then on ¡°+Follow a New Hashtag.¡± Enter the name of the
> hashtag (be sure to include the # sign), the group name in which you want
> to follow it, and the duration (¡°forever,¡± ¡°one hour,¡± etc.).
I throw in the towel. This is really too tortuous for my average members.
I think I'll just tell them to go on like they did on Yahoo, setting up a filter in their own email client.
Marina
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Marina, For instance, I still haven't been able to figure out how to follow or
mute topics and hashtags from the web. I agree, Mark really needs to revisit this UI. The controls and the effects are almost completely hidden to someone working via the web site - they exist only in the Groups.io home page list of all your groups. At the bottom of each message in Digest there is a Mute this Topic
link but not a Follow this Topic link. Mute and Follow are not opposites (they're unrelated). The links to Mute a topic or hashtag are shown when your Message Selection setting (under Advanced Preferences in your Subscription page) is "All Messages". That's the default, so Mute Topic and Mute Hashtag are the only links most people see in email. The opposite of Mute is Unmute, and you won't (or rarely) will see that one because you won't be sent the messages it would apply to (except if they're special notice, I think). So unmuting a topic or hashtag is an action where one is forced to use the confounded web interface. The links to Follow or Unfollow a topic or hashtag are shown in email only when your Message Selection is "Following Only". That's a very powerful feature for limiting how many messages you receive in busy groups, but I suspect few have figured that out. "Chosen to follow" means "that you have chosen not to mute"? Nope. Chosen to follow means that you Followed that topic or hashtag. Working by email you might wonder how you ever follow anything if you're Following Only. That chicken-and-egg problem is cured by the "First Message Also" checkbox. You receive the first message in each new topic, and in that email you have the Follow links. If you're not interested in following that topic do nothing and you won't receive the replies to it. If you do follow it then the subsequent messages will have an Unfollow link, for when you tire of the topic. Shal
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On Feb 11, 2018, at 4:07 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:
Working by email you might wonder how you ever follow anything if you're Following Only. That chicken-and-egg problem is cured by the "First Message Also" checkbox. You receive the first message in each new topic, and in that email you have the Follow links. If you're not interested in following that topic do nothing and you won't receive the replies to it. If you do follow it then the subsequent messages will have an Unfollow link, for when you tire of the topic. If someone just leaves all these options alone, they receive all emails sent to the group, right? I don¡¯t think any of my groups need these fine points. I¡¯ll be the one saying If you touch that button, you¡¯re on your own. Sharon ---- Sharon Villines, Historic Takoma Park In Washington DC, Where all roads lead to Casablanca
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Sharon, If someone just leaves all these options alone, they receive all
emails sent to the group, right? Correct, the default Message Selection is "All Messages". With that selection they can choose to Mute threads or Hashtags, but if they don't click those links (or Mute them from the web site) then they receive all messages in their Individual or Digest delivery. Shal
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On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 12:33 am, Shal Farley wrote: With that selection they can choose to Mute threads or Hashtags, but if
they don't click those links (or Mute them from the web site) then they
receive all messages in their Individual or Digest delivery. Provided that Mark corrects the Mute this Hashtag missing link. As I said in Beta, the link about hashtags is not present in Digest delivery. However, thank you for showing me a glimmer of light at the end of a very dark tunnel, Shal. I had no idea that Mute and Follow were neither opposites nor related. Maybe the wording is a bit confusing, at least for my foreign increasingly bewildered ear. In my YG group what here are called hashtags are compulsory (we have a basic set of them created by moderators) to help members sort the conversation. Now, thanks to YG decline mostly, my group has become very quiet, but I'm still determined to use them. However, I need to let your explanation sink before I can work out some intelligible information in Italian for my members. Marina
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Note that when an email post does not have a hashtag in the subject line, only "Mute This Topic" appears among the links at the bottom. If the post has a hashtag, "Mute This #{hashtag}" also appears with {hashtag} filled with the hashtag in the subject line. This had me a little confused until I noticed that the appearance of "Mute This #hashtag" is contingent.
Best, Marv
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Also, any hashtag set to "special notice" is unmutable.
On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 10:18 AM, Marv Waschke <marv@...> wrote: Note that when an email post does not have a hashtag in the subject line, only "Mute This Topic" appears among the links at the bottom. If the post has a hashtag, "Mute This #{hashtag}" also appears with {hashtag} filled with the hashtag in the subject line. This had me a little confused until I noticed that the appearance of "Mute This #hashtag" is contingent.
Best, Marv
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On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 08:18 am, J_Catlady wrote:
Note: some hashtags in a group may be coded by moderators to be unmutable
I must be being particularly thick, but I can't find a place to change the status of a hashtag to "unmutable".? This topic is exercising my mind as it fits into our thoughts about how to manage the implications of GDPR in the UK. Thanks in anticipation. Tim
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Duane
Shal Farley
Marvin Waschke
Tim Johnson