Chat Room Problem: Chat text entered in the entry box sometimes does not appear in the Chat Dialog #chats

Bill N4iQ

?Chat text entered in the entry box sometimes does not appear in the Chat Dialog.? I have ten separate chat rooms set up in K2L Groups.? Some are in use more than others.

At various times and in various chat rooms, entering text and then clicking on "send" does not actually send the text.?? The text in the entry box just disappears and nothing happens.? It never shows up.? This seems to be temporary - later everything is working fine.?

This is very annoying and defeats the purpose for which they were set up.? Any suggestions or recommendations?? Could this be a bug, slow server or what.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.????? Bill

Re: Notification of Files Uploaded

#9976

Thank you. I knew it was there somewhere but since I was looking for it and not uploading a file, I couldn’t find it.

Do others think it might be helpful to have a universal option to notify the list whenever a file is uploaded.  A question by the option about who can upload files so it notifies the owners, moderators, or subscribers.

A member of one of my groups uploaded a file this morning and notified the list but often people forget. I would like to be notified whenever something is posted so I can monitor it.

Sharon

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On Jul 6, 2018, at 12:48 PM, Toby Kraft <toby@...> wrote:

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There is no setting to default this checkbox nor a group setting to 'always notify' - which you probably wouldn't want to do, for example, when uploading a bunch of files, the group would get notified on each one.
Thanks
Toby

Re: User deleting own post

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jonathon,

It falls under _The Right to be Forgotten_ statutes, not GDPR.Either way, the point is that the right to be forgotten is not absolute. As others have replied, it does not necessarily mean that one can expect to be erased from the history of a group's messages.

Shal


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Re: User deleting own post

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On 05/07/18 08:19 PM, Shal Farley wrote:

I don't believe it has been established if or how the GDPR will apply toIt falls under _The Right to be Forgotten_ statutes, not GDPR.

jonathon

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Re: Curious problem logging in

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On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 09:32 am, David Grimm wrote:

And every single time, upon further research, I had mis-typed the password.

Yes, and that is what I thought too, but after many attempts, and typing very slowly making certain everything was right, I realized that it was not me, but the site. I even wondered if I had somehow been hacked. And since no-one else seems to have had this experience here, I am beginning again to wonder if that is not the case.

Re: Notification of Files Uploaded

#9972

There is no setting to default this checkbox nor a group setting to 'always notify' - which you probably wouldn't want to do, for example, when uploading a bunch of files, the group would get notified on each one.??
Thanks
Toby

Notification of Files Uploaded

#9971

Is there a way for the list to be notified when files are uploaded? 

We allow everyone to upload files but I just realized no one has been notified when files were uploaded.

Sharon
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Re: Curious problem logging in

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Never had it happen with Groups.io, but have had it with other sites that require a periodic log-in. After several attempts to assure my self it was the site and not me, I gave up and created a new password. And every single time, upon further research, I had mis-typed the password. Either a mispelling, a missed capitalization or a missed special character. Or forgotten I had already changed the password. Not saying definitely that's what happened to you, but it's definitely a strong possibilty.?

Dave

Re: one member having problems posting

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On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 08:29 am, Nancy P wrote:

In the past month, one of our members had 7 of her messages (out of about 20), not get posted to the group.? I can see the header of a message she sent on 6/30, and the email address of the group is correct.? Her activity isn't showing up as bouncing, nor are her emails being returned to her either by her server or by groups.io.? She has a gmail address.? ?No one else is having this issue.? ?Any ideas on why this might be happening?

The Bouncing indicators apply only to messages sent FROM the group, not to the group. What is this 6/30 message you are referring to? Is it a copy of something she sent that didn't make it through? If it's something else, it won't be useful for troubleshooting.

Lots of people have more than one email address and it's common for someone to attempt to post a group message using an address that is not subscribed. That would be the first place to look.

Hope this helps,
Bruce
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one member having problems posting

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In the past month, one of our members had 7 of her messages (out of about 20), not get posted to the group.? I can see the header of a message she sent on 6/30, and the email address of the group is correct.? Her activity isn't showing up as bouncing, nor are her emails being returned to her either by her server or by groups.io.? She has a gmail address.? ?No one else is having this issue.? ?Any ideas on why this might be happening?

Re: Desirable member subscription preferences

#9967

Shall

Thanks for the heads-up correction.?
I agree with your assessment of remembering the last settings. Perfect. ?Too many trees to notice the forest.?

Ken

Re: Desirable member subscription preferences

Glenn Glazer

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On 7/6/2018 01:20, Shal Farley wrote:
? Ability to set ‘newest first’ as a default for topic and message
list interfaces.

? Ability to set default sort method for photos and albums.I actually disagree with both of those. I prefer that the site simply remember my most recent sort choices until I change them.

But those defaults would not be too annoying (to me) if they applied only at each new login. As long as my sort choice doesn't reset to the default simply because I navigated away from the messages list and back again. Perhaps it would be possible to do both by having a checkbox to activate set default and drop down to select the ordering.? If the box is unchecked, the the drop down is ignored and the current behavior is preserved.

Best,

Glenn

Re: User deleting own post

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If the individual lives in Europe, you don't have that option.
If they want the data deleted, comply or be fined a fairly
significant amount - the greater of E10,000,000 or 10%
of gross worldwide revenue.I support the notion? that a member ought to have the ability
to remove their own contributions, but until this interpretation
of the GDPR is proven in the context of group contributions
I believe statements like that to be rank fear-mongering.Something that has not been mentioned is Copyright Law. Like you, Shal, I believe a person has the right to their own creations (writing, artistic, etc.) by copyright law. To prevent a member from deleting their own content may be an illegal 'taking' by removing control from the author/creator, and retaining it by the group owner. As such, it may be subject to legal action by the original author. If groups.io were to make the system such that a person could no longer control their own postings, that might also make groups.io subject to legal action, which is why I suspect Mark has not done that.

The internet is full of copyright abuses, taking images from different sources and sharing them, sharing written things like quotations and stories without even giving the original author credit, or sharing sound recordings. The GDPR appears to have been written to control that, and I would expect that the courts would continue to recognize copyright law.

Having said that, the question of a person replying to such a post and quoting part of the material originally posted would seem to fall into a gray area. Is such quotation allowed under the shared commons allowances as a reasonable use for educational discussions and common discourse?

I am not a lawyer, although I have been involved with copyright law for many decades. As group owners, we need to recognize the law and make reasonable efforts to protect those rights, or we may see enforcement like the GDPR enacted in the US as well.

Dano

Curious problem logging in

#9964

Today when I tried to log in to my group, it did not recognize my password. After several attempts I had to have a link sent to me to enter and created a new password. Is this something the groups.io does periodically for some security reason, or what......?

Answering Messages In Digest Mode With the Braille Note 4

Patty Fletcher

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Hello.

A co-list member has written a message asking about how to answer messages in digest mode.

I’m going to copy an edited version of her question here to see if anyone has the answer.

I’m taking out names of mentioned list members whom she was trying to reply to.

If anyone has any info about this it would be much appreciated.

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I was hoping to reply privately, but I'm subscribed in daily summary mode, and I'm having a devil of a time replying either on or off list. I may have inadvertently sent blank messages to ___ and the list. The problem is that for some reason, on my BrailleNote Touch running Android 4, I'm not finding the edit field in which to write my message. I'm sure it's a lot easier on my computer, but at times I would like to be able to do this on my BrailleNote Touch as well, so this is really frustrating. If any of you know of a way I can reply to such messages with my email program, you can email me at the address below.

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So anyhow, that’s the problem the list member is having and if anyone knows anything about this I’d appreciate the help.

Thanks.

Patty L. Fletcher

Self-Published author and Owner of Tell-It-To-The-World Marketing

Email: patty.volunteer1@...

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Re: coping with high traffic

#9962

but that would work only in groups where topic drift does not occur - has anyone ever observed such a group in the wild? 8)

servus

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Frances <frances@...> hat am 6. Juli 2018 um 11:56 geschrieben:

You could suggest that people use advanced preferences so that they just get the first message in any thread. The individual member can then decide to follow that thread if they wish.?

Works for for people who don’t want a huge amount of email. I use it for this group!

Frances

Re: coping with high traffic

#9961

You could suggest that people use advanced preferences so that they just get the first message in any thread. The individual member can then decide to follow that thread if they wish.?

Works for for people who don’t want a huge amount of email. I use it for this group!

Frances

Re: Desirable member subscription preferences

#9960

Ken,

Be aware that GMF is a user-to-user group: no Groups.io employees here. The official "suggestion box" for Groups.io is the beta group:


That said, here's my feedback:

? Ability to set ‘newest first’ as a default for topic and message
list interfaces.

? Ability to set default sort method for photos and albums.I actually disagree with both of those. I prefer that the site simply remember my most recent sort choices until I change them.

But those defaults would not be too annoying (to me) if they applied only at each new login. As long as my sort choice doesn't reset to the default simply because I navigated away from the messages list and back again.

? Ability to sort attached files and albums by /_member name_/I'm all for lists (of all kinds) being sortable and filterable by any and all metadata. That is, "yes" in both the list of albums and in the list of photos within an album.

? Ability of the digest emails, when clicking the hotline of the
topic_ or _reply_, to take you there in the _*email*_, rather than
automatically opening up the _*website user interface*_.The /Reply to Group/ and /Reply to Sender/ links beneath messages in a Formatted digest are mailto: links. If you're not seeing them that's, I think, a bug when the group's Reply To setting is not "Group".
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Shal


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Re: Group name already taken before transfer from Yahoo, Any recourse?

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Kim,

I have a group on Yahoo with over 4800 members I’d like to transfer to
Groups .io. However somebody has already take the name.Technically that's not a problem - in the transfer there's no requirement that the group name in Groups.io match that of the Y!Group.

So you could take this as your opportunity to improve the group's name, were that something you would have considered were it not for the disruption.

I can’t get a response from the owner. Is there any way I can get that
name so it can be retained for the transfer from Yahoo?I doubt it, not without that owner's cooperation.

If group membership is open (or even if restricted) I'd probably join that group and then send to the +owner address again. That's because, unlike Yahoo, mods/owners in Groups.io have an option for what +owner messages to receive, and that owner may have chosen not to receive +owner messages from non-members.

Another thing you could try, as a member, is posting to the group itself. Particularly if the group is moderated, or new-member moderated, you may be able to get the owner's attention in their Pending Messages list.

The venue of last resort would be [email protected] but, absent some type of trademark situation or a similar violation of the TOS by that group's owner, I think the answer is likely to be "first come, first served".

Shal


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Re: User deleting own post

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jonathon,

Does Groups.IO honour x-no-archive headers?Interesting question. It appears that the answer is "no", judging from a quick trial in my test group.

I know that Y!Groups did support it. In fact, even supported it as the first line of the message body. At least for text/plain, I never tried it in a text/HTML or MIME multipart.

Shal


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