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Re: New option to move a Yahoo group to: forums.group

 

At its peak, Y!G had more than 10 million groups. Archive.org shows 8272 group retrievals, many of them several years out of date.?I wouldn't hang my hat on archive.org.

Like groups.io, most of the discussion I'm seeing on the forums.group site revolve around restoration of a user-provided getmydata download from the [now-defunct] Y!G privacy dashboard.

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Bruce

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Re: New option to move a Yahoo group to: forums.group

 

On Sat, 12 Dec 2020 12:08:54 -0800, "BMaverick" <bmaverick@...>
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ADDITIONALLY, this site is connected with the Archive.org group that snagged a majority of active groups last year before the content delete happened. So, in signing up with them and a 1-time fee of $209, you can have everything restored to their system of Files, photos, links, database, etc.

There's no mention of restoring all the messages from any group that
was posted AFTER the Dec 14 Yahoo cutoff date for storing messages, so
the last year's worth of messages would only be available if the
archive group continued gathering the posts from all the groups.

If they continued gathering the posts, then this would be a big bonus,
and then you might be able to pay for that feature, gather all the
messages, then move them to GIO somehow. Or just leave them there then
downgrade to the basic free group.

This would open some new options for people.

Donald



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Re: New option to move a Yahoo group to: forums.group

 

On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 09:17 PM, BMaverick wrote:
ADDITIONALLY, this site is connected with the Archive.org group that snagged a majority of active groups last year before the content delete happened.

Can you tell us where you got that information from?? The only mention of Archive.org that I can find on their site is on the FAQ page:
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Can I find my Group's Archives at Archive.Org?

Archive.org has been archiving the messages of as many groups as possible. They also joined a lot of YahooGroups in order to obtain the MBox files from Yahoo before they stopped that service. Their work can be downloaded from https://archive.org/details/archiveteam_yahoogroups, although the formats used are not easy to use. We are investigating if we can use these archives to restore YahooGroups.

By the way, the format that I saw used on Archive.org's Yahoogroups archives is the format in which mails were downloaded if you downloaded them using the scripts that were used a year or two ago (such as the one by ).? So no, they're not MBOX files, but I'm sure they can be converted to MBOX using just a little bit of skill.

Samuel


Re: Metrics dashboard for groups.io?

 

Cameron,

I'd like to demonstrate the health of our project by pointing to a
graph of our healthy and growing email list, ideally pointing at a
graph of "posts per week".
The closest to that is the Message History table near the bottom of your group's home page. But that's on a per-month basis.

If not, maybe something to think about adding to the next development
sprint. :)
I don't know Groups.io uses any Agile development formalities, but in any case GMF is a user-to-user forum: no one from Groups.io monitors the messages here.

The official suggestion box for Groups.io is the beta group:


The subject of member metrics has come up a time or two before, but I'm not finding a topic that is directly what you're looking for.



Shal


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Metrics dashboard for groups.io?

Cameron Shorter
 

Hi folks,
I've looked, but can't seem to find a dashboard showing high level metrics about the use of our open source project's email list.
I'd like to demonstrate the health of our project by pointing to a graph of our healthy and growing email list, ideally pointing at a graph of "posts per week".
Is there some way for me to get such metrics?
If not, maybe something to think about adding to the next development sprint. :)

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Re: New option to move a Yahoo group to: forums.group

 

BMaverick,

They do not limit free speech, so comments about medical or vaccines
pro/cons would be allowed.
They do limit speech, as required by the laws of Germany, where they are located. Additionally, their FAQ discusses the site's own standards for Privacy and Free Speech:


I know GIO has some free speech restrictions as certain topics are not
allowed.
Correct, some politically controversial topics as well as "adult" content are not allowed in Groups.io:
/helpcenter/faq/1/group-owner-moderator-faq/q-what-types-of-groups-are-not

ADDITIONALLY, this site is connected with the Archive.org group that
snagged a majority of active groups last year before the content
delete happened.
Is there actually an affiliation, or is it simply that fourms.group imports from Archive.org?

In either case, Archive.org won't have the content of _every_ Yahoo Group. Only those with public archives and those private groups which gave access to someone working with Archive.org.

Shal


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Invitations Sent Without Delay

 

This morning I sent invitations to about a hundred people from a Yahoo Group moving to Groups.io. I was pleased, and a bit surprised, to see all one hundred invitations were issued almost at once. From first to last the log shows they all went out at 10:03 a.m. EST. The first invitation was accepted at 10:06.

I'm glad the founding owner finally decided we should migrate the group to Groups.io. This is a group made up of current employees and retirees in a specific industry. They share a lot of collective knowledge, and know an amazing amount of history.? Despite the small size, the group is an active one. In addition to messages about people, places and events, some of the members use it for social networking. I would hate to see it all lost.

By the way, after setting the group into action this morning, and getting our first couple of messages posted, I realized that the basic Groups.io still offers one feature that Yahoo Groups had eliminated. Posted messages are archived on the group home page. That makes future conversations much simpler, much easier.

All without charge. You can't beat it.

tommy0421


Re: New option to move a Yahoo group to: forums.group

 

This is interesting.? They do not limit free speech, so comments about medical or vaccines pro/cons would be allowed.? Likewise whatever Yahoo allowed, they will too.? I know GIO has some free speech restrictions as certain topics are not allowed.
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They are a true phpBB Forum system.? Many of these types of forums do have email interaction now without the need to go to a website.?

ADDITIONALLY, this site is connected with the Archive.org group that snagged a majority of active groups last year before the content delete happened.? So, in signing up with them and a 1-time fee of $209, you can have everything restored to their system of Files, photos, links, database, etc. Messages from MBOX or PST format will be extracted and all topics and messages and structures will be filled in their 'forum' system.?? Their search function is very robust.

They have the ability to link user emails to the messages posted from the old archive.?

Sounds much like the old AngleFire Groups of the 1980 and 90s era.
Free Hosting:
We can host your forum for free with advertising and minimal features. This is the simplest system and ideal for small groups that just want to chat with no thrills attached. You get the standard features of a phpBB forum plus the free features listed below. You have moderator control of the forum . It is not possible to have advertising removed from our free forums. Please note that there is a one-time setup fee of $69.

Premium Hosting for $90/year:
Our premium forums are fully featured with no advertising. This is the recommended option for groups with 1000 members of more, especially if you want extra features liked embedded vidoes, etc.
As a premium customer, we can make the imported messages available to the moderator in an email account, during the migration process, so that the moderator can have a chance to look through the archives and remove any unwanted spam messages, etc. and also add any posts that were made during 2020 when the Yahoo servers were no longer storing them. This allows the group's message archives to be complete without a gap in 2020.
Premium membership is available for a yearly charge of $90 and provides a lot of extra features, better editor and posting via email or online. You can add the Premium upgrade when you sign up.
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Now the best part, GroupsIO can benefit from their link to the Archive.org site for the Yahoo Groups content now available.? The weird thing is, how does one look for an old group to restore here?? The data is not lost, yet how does one search to find the right content???



Our group already made the big move to here to GIO.? I don't believe making another hop is worth it without loosing more members.?


Re: notices generated with direct add

 

Stephanie,

So in this case, will all the people I direct add get only the direct
add or will they get both the direct add and the welcome.
My recollection from the last time I Direct Add'd, a couple years ago, is that they get both.

(I¡¯m asking because if they get both, I will deactivate the welcome
for now as they don¡¯t need 2 notices.)
That's a sensible approach. The other option is to word the Direct Add in a way that works as an intro for the Welcome notice. I've tried it both ways.

The only advantage to sending both is that you can keep the included section of the Direct Add message very short and to the point - which may increase the likelihood that the recipient will read it. When I did it this way the Direct Add said who I am and why I'm adding you to this group - providing context so that the recipient knows that the message is legit. In the case of family and classmate groups, including my real name and email address.

Also, in formatting the included part of Direct Add (or Invite) I think the Horizontal Line button is your friend:
/g/GroupManagersForum/message/27136

Shal


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Re: How can I give a donation to groups.io?

 

On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 01:00 PM, Nancy P wrote:
I'd a moderator in several basic groups and would like to make a donation also as a way of saying thank you to Mark - I don't have the authority to change the type of plan so we could pay.
One option would be to create a test group (using the settings required by GIO - "If you are creating a group solely for testing, please ensure that the Visibility option is set for Group not listed in directory, private messages, otherwise the group will be deleted.") and upgrade it to Premium for a month now and then to show your appreciation.? That would keep folks from getting confused when your regular group has features that come and go.? You could also change it to a 'real' group later if you want.

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Re: notices generated with direct add

 

On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 11:58 AM, Stephanie Hilwig wrote:
I created a direct add notice (for those that I direct add) and I created a welcome notice for those that join via email.
Just to be safe, I'd deactivate the Welcome notice.? According to the documentation, a Direct Add notice is always sent, either one you've created/activated or a default by the system - /helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/managing-member-notices/direct-add-notice?single=true

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Re: How can I give a donation to groups.io?

 

I'd a moderator in several basic groups and would like to make a donation also as a way of saying thank you to Mark - I don't have the authority to change the type of plan so we could pay.? Any thoughts??


Re: Groups.io website problem

 

On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 02:11 AM, Kyle Elwood wrote:

/g/Howard-Gen

and the groups.io website sends them to one of my other forums:

/g/Endicott-Gen
In the quote above, I've edited the top link to go to the second site.? I believe that's what you're seeing.? The other replies explain why this is happening.

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notices generated with direct add

 

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I¡¯m about to upgrade from basic for one month, so I can direct add all my yahoo group members into my new group.? In admin, under notices, I created a direct add notice (for those that I direct add) and I created a welcome notice for those that join via email.? Both are listed under my member notices as active.? So in this case, will all the people I direct add get only the direct add or will they get both the direct add and the welcome.? (I¡¯m asking because if they get both, I will deactivate the welcome for now as they don¡¯t need 2 notices.)

Thank you,

Stephanie ?


Re: Groups.io website problem

 

Let's go back to basics here. It seems that Kyle may not be familiar with web links.

Kyle, every link has two parts:
  • The real link which begins with http:// or https://. This part has to be exactly right. It's the path your request takes to find the server page you need.
  • The display text, which is what is visible on the page.
Sometimes the real link and display text are the same. For example, "Go to ?that actually links to https://www.google.com.
Sometimes they are not. For example, "" that links to?.

You can see the display text on your screen. Shal has given you an overly complex means of seeing the underlying link text. Here is a simpler means. Hover your mouse over the display text and look at the small print in the lower left corner of your browser window. In your situation they should be identical.

Let me know if this makes more sense.

Larry


Re: Polls

 

When you create a poll, it gets sent to members. Click on Post Poll after you create it.
You can see it in your messages and search for old ones by clicking on Topics in Messages to select Polls.

For more info about polls, see

/helpcenter/membersmanual/1/working-with-polls?single=true

Also in the owners help: ?/helpcenter/ownersmanual/1/customizing-settings-for-premium-and-enterprise-features/polls?single=true

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Re: Missing photo album

 

On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 09:56 AM, Bob Knight wrote:
I have a member that had a photo album posted. It was there a week ago and it's gone now. They didn't delete it. Neither did any group moderator. Ideas as to what has happened?
Bob -- Open your activity log (Admin>Activity). Select "Deleted photo album" from the Actions pull-down menu and click the Search button.

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Bruce

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Missing photo album

 

I have a member that had a photo album posted. It was there a week ago and it's gone now. They didn't delete it. Neither did any group moderator. Ideas as to what has happened?

Thanks,
Bob


Polls

 

I've created a poll in my group but can't see how to promote?it to the group. Where can I find the poll's URL...?
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Norman C Berns


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Re: Groups.io website problem

 

I encountered this issue too!? It happened because I changed the name of the group.? There is a Welcome Message sent out to new members and in that message is a link to the group... but .... when I changed the name of the group, the link did not change!? I believe this is a bug, but I was able to edit the Welcome Message and correct it.?

To check your Welcome Message, go to Settings > Member Notices > Welcome Message
Then click on the link that is in that message and see if it goes to the right place.
If not, don't just correct the spelling.? That makes it appear to be correct, but the underlying url has not been corrected.
Delete that url, and then copy and paste the url of the homepage of your group into that space.
Then go down to the bottom and click on "Update Notice"

That fixed the issue I was having.

Marilyn


On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 3:11 AM Kyle Elwood <kreede@...> wrote:
Hi,

I have a number of email forums/groups I have transferred from Yahoogroups.com.?? I have been messaging members of the Yahoogroups.com forums that they need to migrate to the new forums at .? A number of them have run into a problem (and I have verified the problem).? They clicked on
the following hyperlink I provided them:

/g/Howard-Gen

and the website sends them to one of my other forums:

/g/Endicott-Gen

This, of course, does not make any sense to me.? Does anyone have a solution for this problem?? Thank you


Kyle Elwood
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