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HI,

I have a group on here that was on Yahoo! Groups!! and we archived here for posterity. The group is pretty active with 1,000+ members and it moved to Google Groups...

When we moved to GG, we didn't have the first 8 years of messages (they are here, from Yahoo!).

What I'd like to do is merge the GG new stuff with the old Yahoo! messages we already have here, and potentially move here from GG.

How to I get the GG data here? (I'm also admin/owner of the associated GG group).

Thanks

Nick

The previous message made it to my inbox, barely. DMARC is not an issue—adding groups.io to my SPF record is not required. Some details from the headers of the received message (see ):

Authentication-Results: spf=pass (sender IP is 66.175.222.12)
?smtp.mailfrom=groups.io; mydomain.com; dkim=pass (signature was verified)
?header.d=groups.io;mydomain.com; dmarc=bestguesspass action=none
?header.from=groups.io;compauth=pass reason=109

action=none means no action based on DMARC.

Received-SPF: Pass (protection.outlook.com: domain of groups.io designates
?66.175.222.12 as permitted sender) receiver=protection.outlook.com;
?client-ip=66.175.222.12; helo=web01.groups.io;

X-Forefront-Antispam-Report:
?CIP:66.175.222.12;CTRY:US;LANG:en;SCL:5;SRV:;IPV:NLI;SFV:SPM;H:web01.groups.io;PTR:web01.groups.io;CAT:UIMP;SFTY:9.20;SFS:(34206002)(76796012)(6636002)(19810500001)(336012)(36756003)(6666004)(966005)(58800400005)(118246002)(33964004)(7636003)(36736006)(8676002)(5660300002)(22186003)(2616005)(956004)(76236003)(7596003)(26005)(356005)(37006003)(6486002)(7846003)(7696005)(1096003)(83380400001)(166002)(79116004);DIR:INB;SFTY:9.20;

SCL 5 - Spam Confidence Level 5 - default is to move 6 and above to Junk
SFV:SPM - the message was marked as spam by spam filtering
CAT:UIMP - User Impersonation
SFTY:9.20 - Phishing - User impersonation.

A general note on DMARC and Microsoft 365. As seen above, groups.io is rated "dmarc=bestguesspass" and does not warrant any DMARC action. I created another scenario with a different domain that caused DMARC=fail. But I learned that Microsoft 365 does not respect p=reject even when DMARC fails. That's right, it never rejects based on DMARC. It treats p=reject like p=quarantine. The DMARC action is "oreject" (override reject) and the mail is delivered to Junk with CAT:SPOOF. If you have set up the sender as a Safe Sender, it will not be moved to junk. See . So the best you can hope for when setting up DMARC is that messages may be marked as spam; it won't block the spoof messages from being delivered.

Just search by hashtag. Scroll down and you will see the tag.?

Frances
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GMF wiki for help.?Search box at the top of each page.

Check out the?new groups.io Help Center??Use your browser to search or download?the PDF.

Trying to search for Special Notices today, I could see in the Activity pane "sent special message" as vs. "sent message."? But I couldn't see how to search for special notices.? The drop down for search is SO long, but nowhere special message to search by.??

What am I missing?

Jonathan Bernstein (for ApplePi)

Chuck,

Likewise here.?

Our group has MANY files and photos of helps for the community.? However, those asking for help via email seldom or never visited the GroupsIO web page to even look for the documents, specifications or tutorials.? Thus, it's a message dialog going for 5 to 22 replies before a person understands what they need to do.

In a funny and odd twist, the non-members to the Group, aka Joe Public people, tend to stop in and view things or read things without too much trouble.? Just getting the members to this level would relieve so much time waste.

To have a listing of members who visit and those who email would be really handy.? And if possible, have the list generated to show the ID in column-A, total web visit column-B and total email in column-C.? This way, upon review, there could be mixed folks who now how to do BOTH methods.? Typically, those are the people who know how to navigate really well on the web.

BMaverick

On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 03:03 PM, Karin Beil wrote:

I'm not seeing a way to print our current member list.

That's because there is no direct way of doing it.

... our president wants to see the list on paper. Not everyone is techy

I suggest that you persuade your president to become a bit techy. The only available option means quite a bit more work for you as Owner, as follows:

From the Members List click on Download. This will give you a CSV file that needs to be opened as a spreadsheet that includes information about joining date, delivery options, posting status and the like. Printing the spreadsheet in that form will guzzle paper to include all the probably extraneous information so it may be necessary to delete all the irrelevant columns first.

Even with the largely irrelevant material removed you are likely to finish up with a lot of paper being used, depending on how many members you have.

In your position I would say "sorry", you are going to have to process this material for yourself, and here's how...

Chris

I'm not seeing a way to print our current member list. I'm the group owner. We are a non-profit and our president wants to see the list on paper. Not everyone is techy :-)
Thank you,
Karin
The Buddy Foundation

As an administrator or owner of the group, why not post a topic to the group and ask if the member is still there but under another email address?? You may find that she unsubscribed, but subscribed previously with a different email address due to any number of user issues, ie, can't reset password, new computer and didn't save a separate password list, etc, etc...

Tamra

Thanks, Duane. ?You are definitely correct about:

You can't be sure of that.? They may have used the group features, but only use email for messages.??

But based upon personal knowledge of our club's membership I wouldn't be going too far out on a limb to venture that a healthy percentage of those who use email for messages have never viewed our calendar, Files section, and GIO's Search features-;) ?I guess I can just keep hammering away at them via messages, postings on our website and via MailChimp.

I'll post the thought on the beta group in a bit. ?Sorry, didn't realize suggestions weren't taken here.
Please remove the hashtag I put on it if you haven't done so already.

Thanks again!
-chuck

On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 11:26 AM, Chuck Palmer wrote:

Is there a way to turn this off?

No.? I believe this is due to legal reasons.? There must be a way for anyone to opt out from being added.

Duane
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The official Groups.io user documentation is in the Groups.io Help Center.
GMF's Unofficial Help Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki

Is there a way to turn this off?? If I Direct Add people, they get both that message and the Welcome Message.? Our Welcome Message is sufficient.

On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 10:38 AM, Chuck Palmer wrote:

I see some with messages sent via web but there is a significant # who have ONLY sent messages via email and never logged into the web interface for its additional features.

You can't be sure of that.? They may have used the group features, but only use email for messages.? One of the better selling points of GIO, in my opinion, is that there's no tracking.? Dumping the log and parsing is about as close as you can get.

When responding to questions on some of my groups (as well as this one), I often include a link to a file, photo, wiki page, etc., so anyone that's interested is using the site, even if I don't know it.

BTW, for something to be considered as a suggestion for the site, you'd need to post it on the .? This is an unofficial user-to-user group.
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Duane
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The official Groups.io user documentation is in the Groups.io Help Center.
GMF's Unofficial Help Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki

Not sure if this falls under the #featurerequest or #suggestion category so I tagged it as both.? It may even already be somewhere I missed in the documentation but I searched around and could not find it so here goes...

One of the many reasons we migrated from GG to GIO is its loverly web interface.? Our previous GG folks only used that system via emails to the group so we're trying to get them to use GIO for things like its polls, calendar, searching, etc. but it's an uphill battle -- lots of Luddites.? To that end, I'd like to be able to get a listing of those members who have never accessed the group via the web.?

As I browse thru members' Activity History and the main Activity Log, I see some with messages sent via web but there is a significant # who have ONLY sent messages via email and never logged into the web interface for its additional features.

Is there some way to generate a listing of those members?? I was thinking of dumping the whole Activity Log then parsing it via Excel but wanted to check to see if I'm missing something obvious first.

Thanks!

Should be noted, though, that the author of the edited message will still get a notification that the message has been altered. So the general membership won't be sent an updated copy, but the author will get a notification.

Dave Rypma
VE3HTC / VE3DTR

On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 07:18 AM, Rubens wrote:

it would be necessary for the ISP to process the user's filters BEFORE determining what
is spam or not.

No - the filter simply says do not send ANY emails with the designated characteristics to the spam folder.

On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 08:32 PM, Patti wrote:

I had not but just tried now, and still nothing shows up. When using that action, do I still put the email address in the search box?

I'd leave it blank. Unless your group is very large it seems unlikely that multiple people have changed email addresses. So it shouldn't be that difficult to find among the search hits.

and does it have to be the entire email address, or is the first part good enough?

If you do need to enter something to further filter the hits, I suggest using the full address. My own experience with substring searches has been somewhat hit-or-miss.

I am now wondering this person maybe changed their email address before the transition to Groups.Io, and that may be why it not showing up.

The person may also have -- instead of changing their email -- merged two email addresses/accounts. Pretty sure on this end that such a merge does not appear in the activity log.

Regards,
Bruce

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Check out the groups.io Help Center?and?groups.io Owners Manual

Thanks for getting back to me.?

Phone? To browse the internet - shudder!? Nah it's a real computer with a large screen and I'm pretty certain that I was running the browser almost full screen.

If I hit this again, I'll update - otherwise safe to assume the browser window was too small.

Thanks again, David

Thank you, Frances and Duane.

I now know how to fix *and* have decided to keep on moderation for the reasons you gave. What I good idea!? After being an admin on different groups on different platforms for over a decade, I wish I'd had/thought of this option before.

Best wishes,

Jill?

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