Yes, I discovered that soon after submitting my question. Sorry for the bother :)

On 13/01/2020 03:19, Laurence Marks wrote:

If you have a PG Offline download, you will soon be able to upload it *with all your attachments* to Groups.io.

It is my understanding that the new companion program from PG Offline does not upload messages to Groups.io, but forwards messages to Groups.io.

Samuel

On 11/01/2020 23:39, Jeff Coleman via Groups.Io wrote:

Can you confirm that a message sent out on a Main group will
automatically reach everyone on all sub-groups?

Your question is slightly ambiguous even though you may not have
intended it to be.

No, a message sent to the main group will not be sent to all subgroups.

Yes, a message sent to the main group will "reach" all members of the main group (depending on their subscription settings for the main group) -- and since everyone in a subgroup must also be a member of the main group, "everyone on all subgroups" will receive it, but they won't receive it *on* the subgroups.

I'm not sure if one can subscribe a subgroup to the main group directly
(so that the subgroup would receive all mails that are sent to the main
group).

Samuel

See this wiki page for help.

Moving to Groups.io (without easy transfer)

Frances

Thanks Frances, I understand full well how the system works. I'm just asking about possible problems with a subtle nuance to the process.

I've been an old dog around here for a number of years. (Tomorrow is the 5th anniversary of my first groups.io group. Cue the fireworks!) Mostly I just lurk and ponder, and try not to bark much. I did some of the first group transfers with Mark and helped find some of the bugs in the process as well as a couple back-door tricks. For some reason, just before the shutdown, I decided to rescue an orphaned group on Y! I should have known better, but some days I get these crazy ideas…

Dano

Moving to Groups.io (without easy transfer)

Frances

GMF Wiki: (unofficial) Help for members (and would-be members) and group managers

Is there a reason why the import couldn't be put right into the
message archives? I've rescued an orphaned group and we
have the Yahoo zip files for the group. (We also have PGO
files.) The current groups.io archives start from about a year
ago, and I recognize the message numbering of the imported
messages would fall into the sequence on the date it was
imported.

You'd end up with 2 YG in one GIO group, correct? There's
no problem with that and it's been done a few times that I
know of (some intentional, some not. ;>)

Thanks for your thoughts, Duane. There's only one Y! group and I want to put the messages into the successor groups.io group. The only merging would be a few recent messages that would overlap.

Dano

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On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 08:51 PM, D R Stinson wrote:

Is there a reason why the import couldn't be put right into the message archives? I've rescued an orphaned group and we have the Yahoo zip files for the group. (We also have PGO files.)?The current groups.io archives start from about a year ago, and I recognize the message numbering of the imported messages?would fall into the sequence on the date it was imported.

You'd end up with 2 YG in one GIO group, correct?? There's no problem with that and it's been done a few times that I know of (some intentional, some not. ;>)? It's only critical if you want to keep all the information separate.

Duane
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Shal Farley wrote:

If you already have a PG Offline download you're in pretty good shape
with regard to Files and Photos. If you already have a Get My Data
download you're in great shape with regard to Messages.

If you have a PG Offline download, you will soon be able to upload it?with all your attachments to Groups.io. I have (I believe) gotten past the last obstacle, a single message that was being rejected by Groups.io. I'm testing a version of a companion program to PG Offline by the same firm.

Larry

Jim,

Is it too late to move a group from Yahoo?

That depends on how much "prep" work you've done.

It is too late to use the Easy Yahoo Group Transfer method, and it is too late to use PG Offline or similar tools to download the Yahoo Group content. You still have until Jan 31st to request a Get My Data download from Yahoo.

If you already have a PG Offline download you're in pretty good shape with regard to Files and Photos. If you already have a Get My Data download you're in great shape with regard to Messages.

See this wiki page for more details:
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Moving-to-Groups.io

I have a group and want to load stuff in two sub-groups but they will
be reference only but both are over 1GB but will be for history and
research only.

Note that the increase was only for groups on a Premium plan. Basic (free) groups still have a 1 GB limit.

Since the space has increased, will sub-goups space used be
accumulated into the parent group?

I believe that the original intent was that the storage limit would apply to the sum of the storage in the primary and its subgroups. That hasn't been the case though, and each subgroup has been counting against its own limit. So the answer going forward is murky: I think of the current situation as a "bug" that's bound to get fixed one day.

Shal


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Thanks Shal!
I saw that you had to be an owner with a Premium account. I’m a Moderator but I will do as you say.?
Peter

Peter,

Any chance someone could pass this note onto Mark Fletcher?

Yes - you can!

Email to [email protected] and try to include as much detail as you can about the system where you don't see the Actions menu. Device type, iOS version, browser name and version. Plus anything else you can think of that might be relevant.

GMF is a user-to-user forum, so none of us have an inside path.

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Lin,

On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 11:58 AM, Lin Duke wrote:

>>> How is it possible for two groups to have identical names bar one dropping 'group' ?

Technically, 99% NO and 1% YES.

First, by "group name" I take it you mean "email address prefix" really (which is what Groups.io uses for top-level group uniqueness), and not "group title"; the group title can be the same as anything else.? For example, I can create a top-level group, [email protected], and title it " My XYZ group", and you create another top-level group, [email protected], and you can also title it "My XYZ group" .? Groups,io uses the combination of the group email address and the title in the group directory, so in this example one would see "XYZ / My XYZ group" and "ABC / My XYZ group" if they were to search for "XYZ" in the group directory.

So the 99% part of NO means, when one creates a group at the top-level (not a subgroup), the name (email address prefix) they choose has to be unique against all other top-level groups, aliases, etc., no way around this.? The group creation screen will tell you if you used an existing name/email address prefix; if I try to name my group ABC and [email protected] already exists, I will have to choose something else.

The 1% YES means that you can indeed create a subgroup with the same name/email address prefix as a top-level group, or any other subgroup for that matter, as long as that subgroup's name is not already in your own top-level group as a subgroup (i.e. all your group's subgroups have to have different names / email address prefixes between them ala the top-level restriction mentioned above)? The reason this is allowed is because Groups.io incorporates the subgroup name with the main/top-level email address, so it is now unique.? For example, using the above, example:
Top-level [email protected] and [email protected], XYZ group can create a subgroup named "ABC", because the resultant group name (full email address) becomes [email protected] and the URL is now XYZ.groups.io/g/ABC, which are different than the top-level [email protected] and groups.io/g/ABC.

Cheers,
Christos

Hello,
Any chance someone could pass this note onto Mark Fletcher?

i noticed while doing a little cleanup in the bounced members section that you cannot access the “Action menu at the bottom of the screen. Not a big deal since I have access by computer but thought I’d pass it on.?

Thanks,

Peter


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Peter Keenan ? ? ? ?

This is great news.? Raising the group space to 20GB.? ? Is it too late to move a group from Yahoo?
Since the space has increased, will sub-goups space used be accumulated into the parent group?? That would be great if it did.? I have a group and want to load stuff in two sub-groups but they will be reference only but both are over 1GB but will be for history and research only.

Jim

Well, wasn't looking for a loophole - was curious if we knew what Mark's goal was with the change.? (could just be changing features for free accounts)

Thank you Shal,

I'm wishing I hadn't opened this question as I have gotten another to my gmail account and this one the mailto links worked.? I have no idea.? I'll look at this here for a while.

John

Jim . . .

On Sun, 12 Jan 2020 13:21:55 -0800, "Jim Wells"
<enginears@...> wrote:

I know I can’t get it back, but maybe there’s some advice here?

If you contact support and you find they can't help you, do you have
the complete membership list with emails?

If you do, you can create a new group and invite all of the members to
it, explaining what happened. You will lose your messages and files
but have a new group. Pick a name similar to the old one.

But hopefully support can help you.

Donald



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