On 18 Nov 2019 17:35, Dakotta Alex wrote:

So after invite groups.io <> to my groups / should I put a request they all be moved to subgroups or will it be done automatically to a main group?

No, it really doesn't work that way. You need to read and follow the instructions here:

/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Transfer-from-Yahoo-Groups

Here's a summary to get you started for your particular situation:

1. Create a new group at Groups.io, with an umbrella name. I suggest "[email protected]".

/creategroup

(remember to set your group so that only the owner can create subgroups)

2. Then, create a subgroup called "WA". This will cause your main group to get renamed to "[email protected]". The subgroup's full name will be "[email protected]".

/g/recruit/createsubgroup

3. Then, buy "Premium Yearly" membership.

/g/recruit/plans

4. Then, follow the Easy Transfer procedures, and when you get to the point where you tell them which Yahoogroup to transfer into which Groups.io group, MAKE SURE you ask that "WARecruit@..." is transferred to [email protected] (and NOT to [email protected]).

/yahootransfer

5. Then repeat step 2 for all the other subgroups that have the most members and the most archives, and step 4 for each transfer from Yahoogroups to the relevant Groups.io subgroup.

I'm not sure if you would be able to do multiple transfers simultaneously. You can certainly try to invite the transfer agent to more than one Yahoogroups group at the same time.

Samuel

I have 50 yahoogroups (USA) and 20 (countries) = 70.

Would it be less confusing to make a few main groups?
Perhaps one for USA with subgroups and one for non-USA with subgroups?

Or even a finer breakdown?

Obviously it will cost more if you want / need Groups.io to transfer your groups from Yahoo Groups for you. Transferring to a subgroup is free (but frankly not sure that Mark was thinking of 69 subgroups!).

But I think you would find it less confusing to manage.?

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On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 10:49 AM, Dan Tappan wrote:

Seems unprofessional to not even respond with a boilerplate FAQ.

There used to be an auto-response when sending something to support saying they got it, but I haven't seen one in awhile.? I think maybe people were getting upset that they got this, then no answer for some time.? In one case, it was almost a year later before I got an answer.? Something minor, so I had almost forgotten about it.

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On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 10:49 AM, Dr. Kanter Business wrote:

I figured it out, its working, just takes 20’ for messages to arrive and appear.

There IS a short delay when a group is created (or after adding the first subgroup) before things start working, usually about 10 minutes, but sometimes a bit longer.

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On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 11:24 AM, Dan Tappan wrote:

I know I can add these members by hand with a one-month premium account;
and that there is a somewhat cumbersome way to install the archives. But
we are willing to pay for a premium account to have it "done right".

Dan -- Groups.io management is very sensitive about inadvertently aiding the theft of a group. I'm not suggesting that's what you're doing, but simply "saying it isn't so" isn't good enough when there could be legal implications.

It could very well be that the owner *wants* the group to die a natural death. Since you are unable to contact him, I think you're on your own.

Unfortunate, but not unusual.

So I'm wondering: is there any point to waiting for a response from
[email protected] or should I just go ahead and do what I can myself.

You should go ahead and do it yourself.

Do they not want our money?

As others have made clear, money is not the issue.?

Silence in response to support requests doesn't
inspire a lot of confidence in the organization, and makes me a little
nervous about moving over. Maybe I should be looking for a different
list provider?

Other options are available. Entirely your call.

Regards,
Bruce

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Sounds to me that they joined a group, but not the one you meant it to be.
Meaning check for typo on the yahoo group name you gave them. It might
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On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 08:32 AM, Frances wrote:

On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 11:24 AM, Dan Tappan wrote:

We want to transfer a yahoo group to groups.io, but unfortunately the
account of the group owner is lost, and apparently none of the moderator
accounts have the privilege of

"Add, remove, and change moderator privileges"

First of all, it has been a hectic month for Groups.io. And the other day, Mark posted in Beta (and repeated here):

?I'm still only responding to support emails from premium group owners right now. There's just too much otherwise. Also, the beta group is still moderated.

And the question is: is that a policy decision, or technological. If technological then fine: we weren't asking for a full transfer (whatever that entails) just a clean installation of the message archives. I'm a bit surprised that they don't have an automatic way to install an mbox archive. Seems like a gaping hole.

What you can do is set up a free account and invite all your members. Or as you mentioned, get premium for one month and direct add your member list. Since you have it in a CSV of all the members, it will be quick.
Your archive of messages is harder.
See this - #10 -
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/FAQ-on-Moving-from-Yahoo-Groups

Also you can search this message archive and see discussions.

Yes. I know about that. That's what I was referring to and that's what I'll use if it's the only option.

But as I said : refusing to reply to someone who wants to give you money does not inspire confidence.? Not a very good business decision. Seems unprofessional to not even respond with a boilerplate FAQ.

On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 11:36 AM, Dakotta Alex wrote:

So after invite to my groups / should I put a request they all be moved to subgroups or will it be done automatically to a main group?

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No, you have to tell the transfer agent where to put each group.?
Be careful - it is hard to untangle if you have them put into the wrong group.

Everyone in a subgroup will be a member of the main group. They can set their subscription in the main group to No Mail if you allow it or Special Notices only (my preference).

Create your subgroups. I would do it just a few at a time so you don't get confused. Transfer the apples Yahoo Group into your apple Groups.io subgroup. (Names don't have to match Yahoo Groups.)

Moves are happening fairly quickly now. So you should be able to do it over just a few days if you keep up with the prompts, etc.

See this response about another but similar move to subgroups:
/g/GroupManagersForum/message/23978

Frances

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On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 11:24 AM, Dan Tappan wrote:

We want to transfer a yahoo group to groups.io, but unfortunately the
account of the group owner is lost, and apparently none of the moderator
accounts have the privilege of

"Add, remove, and change moderator privileges"

First of all, it has been a hectic month for Groups.io. And the other day, Mark posted in Beta (and repeated here):
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On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 10:28 AM, Chris Jones wrote:

Is there not some sort of limit to the number of subgroups that a main group can have?

According to the Features page, "Finally, each group can have an unlimited number of subgroups."

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On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 09:38 AM, <mcmggroups@...> wrote:

Can someone explain why the number of members shown on the home page of my group is always higher than the number of members shown when I drill down to Members under the Admin tab? ?For example, on the Home page it says 321 members. ?When I go to Admin, then select Members, there are 288 names. ?Why are these numbers different?

That's a pretty big discrepancy. Here in GMF, the numbers are only off by 1; but they are still off.

I wonder if it's related to the issue with the "Pending members" number getting out of whack (ref:?/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/59778000#23824). Could it be that 33 people formerly in this group have deleted their accounts without first unsubscribing?*

Bruce

*Disclaimer: The paragraph above is nothing more than an educated guess.

You can't use the Easy Transfer.? Support will tell you the same thing.? They've been snowed under with all the transfers and are now working on the backlog of questions, with premium groups having priority.

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On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 03:57 PM, Samuel Murray wrote:

I see 30 groups of yours here...<snip> ...so I imagine it could make sense to have them all in one group with subgroups.

Is there not some sort of limit to the number of subgroups that a main group can have?

Chris

On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 10:04 AM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

If you are accustomed to running them separately in Yahoo you might be better off just doing the same here (i.e.: as Basic groups).

Apparently there is an unstated limit of creating about 20 groups before you can't create more immediately.? We're not sure if there's a time delay before more can be created or if you need to contact support.? This would only be a concern if you go with individual groups.

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Has anyone ever gotten a response from "[email protected]"?

We want to transfer a yahoo group to groups.io, but unfortunately the
account of the group owner is lost, and apparently none of the moderator
accounts have the privilege of

"Add, remove, and change moderator privileges"

So we can't follow the instructions in the "how to transfer" document

I have a CSV of all the members, and I have a download of the message
archives from Yahoo that I'd like to install in the new account.

I sent a message to "[email protected]" asking whether they can install
these without moderator access to the yahoo group. Crickets (no response
after several messages and several days).

I know I can add these members by hand with a one-month premium account;
and that there is a somewhat cumbersome way to install the archives. But
we are willing to pay for a premium account to have it "done right". So
I'm wondering: is there any point to waiting for a response from
[email protected] or should I just go ahead and do what I can myself. Do
they not want our money? Silence in response to support requests doesn't
inspire a lot of confidence in the organization, and makes me a little
nervous about moving over. Maybe I should be looking for a different
list provider?

On 18 Nov 2019 16:54, Dakotta Alex wrote:

Having said that - should I stick with free groups or can I put this all in my "paid group" with sub groups - not giving them the option to message the main group (but they can only?message the subgroup)?

Remember, if you use the free groups, you can still have subgroups.

The only advantage of having a premium membership for 1-2 months is being able to add old members more efficiently (although you'd still have to add/invite them manually), and the only advantage of having a 1-year premium membership is being able to transfer the members automatically and transferring the old messages/files as well.

But if you don't need the old messages, and you don't mind spending a bit of time adding/inviting all the old members, then you don't need to buy the 1-year premium package -- you can simply create your main group and then create the subgroups, even in the free package.

Samuel

On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 10:50 AM, Eric Johnson wrote:

I've now changed the name of my group and created a sub-group from it.

All the messages that were in the former group are missing and I am the only member of the sub-group. I thought the the former main group would move to the new sub-group auto-magically. What did I do wrong and is it recoverable . . .please.

Your main group is still there, at?

Please re-read the instructions I provided at?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/23978, Step 4.

Bruce

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