One person has made it successfully.?

Besides emailing [GroupName][email protected]?? what did I forget to say??? I know many have tried.? There is nothing in the pending members area.

Does the subject need to be specific too??? This is not in any of the auto headers/footers, etc. so I didn't tell them anything except what it said to do which was email [GroupName][email protected] after the group was approved.?

How did my lucky sole member manage to do it??

TIA,
BJ

Samuel,

Will that active notice then be sent to members who
are added from the Yahoogroup?

I would have confidently said "yes", but there has recently been a topic here concerning some transfers where it did not.
/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/40205879#22970

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Steve:
I'd love to see this as well, and tried to email you, but when I "copy email address" I only get?stevebass@... which isn't going to work.? Can you add "anonymize" it and have it added to the wiki?

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Since last week, me and my co owner and mod have been unable to delete any photos from the attachments photo section. ? Has anyone else had issues with this or has any ideas why it is not working? ? Inkk

On 22 October, I paid $110.00 to transfer Heathkit_HFAmps@...m to [email protected].

When I go to look at when it will be transfered, all I see is my Drake group, nothing about the Heathkit group.? What's up with this?

Joe - W7RKN

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 10:07 AM, Isidro Berniol wrote:

But when someone is using the join button on a subgroup the join request will be listed on the main group. That means I don't have aclue to what subgroup the person like to be added.

Isidro -- That's odd.

When I click on "Join this Group" in a subgroup, I get a red-box error saying "You cannot join this subgroup until you first join the parent group" (or something to that effect). But this is using an email address that already has an account on groups.io. I don't have a unaffiliated email address to test what happens when the email address is unknown to groups.io. This leads me to believe what you're experiencing may be an artifact of the email address confirmation process. Need to think that through a little more on my end.

Bruce

Tangentially-Related Postscript:? I'm frankly surprised that GMF isn't seeing more complaints from people having difficulties with member management in subgroups. I really expected more Owners to create one group with a bunch of unrelated subgroups in order to get multiple Yahoo Groups transferred under one Premium Yearly payment (i.e.: to subvert the transfer pricing structure). Again, not saying that's your case, or Samuel's -- we talked you through all the caveats well before you did your transfers, and Samuel has been around here a long time. But if others fail to follow the subgroup guidance and subsequently experience issues along those lines I feel that's just .

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 09:30 AM, Isidro Berniol wrote:

I know, it is? a lot of work to check the blacklists regulary

Mark (groups.io) has all sorts of tools that he uses to keep an eye on this sort of thing.? The big problem is that many of those lists don't do their own investigating, they just incorporate lists from other services.? A false report on one service can quickly migrate to other services.? Only support can actually do anything.

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On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 02:53 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 08:51 AM, Isidro Berniol wrote:

I hope that groups.io will do a good job in monitoring blacklisting and removing from the blacklists.

Isidro -- Groups.io did not put themselves on a blacklist. It is often more effective to complain to your own provider. You are, after all, paying them good money to deliver desired messages to your inbox.

That's clear to me. The mentioned blacklist operates, like many others, with spam traps. And as soon as the blacklisting is triggered mostly only the owner can try to whitlist again.
This has nothing to do with my provider, because he is doing hopefully the job right. OK, I'm my own email provider.? ;-) I have excluded now the groups.io smtp server from blacklisting check on my servers.
But this is only a solution for me and my customers, not for all the other users that have the usal email providers that use also the common blacklisting pools.

I know, it is? a lot of work to check the blacklists regulary, but groups.io has to do that and also check in the mail logs why they were blacklisted.
We have to do that also on our servers on regular basis, that's normal work if you provide email services.

The reputation of your email server is good, according to talos, but blacklistchecking is essential.

Isidro

I just figure they are clearing my clutter for me,

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 10:08 AM, Cassius Julianus wrote:

1. Is paying $20 a month for a year going to get my group transferred, or not?

Cassius -- No...you cannot use the Easy Group Transfer process on the Premium Monthly plan.

I'm paying the same money...

Premium Yearly involves a full-year commitment, while Premium Monthly permits you to revert to Basic after one month. So it's really not even close the same thing.

2. If I have to pay the $220 up front to get my group changed over, what do I do now? I can't find any page that shows what I've paid, or any way to change from $20 month to pay the full $220.00 .?

Go back to the same page (Admin>Billing), select the Premium Yearly option, and go through the checkout process again.

Regards,
Bruce

ok, ?we have completed all transfers and 20 years of history and dialogue are here and functioning. Just want to offer deepest thanks for the skill and professionalism of what is happening.?

We we endured all those years of incompetence and arrogance at yahoo because there didn’t seem to be a way out. ?You have taken the original vision of community and made it work.

good job

kathleen

Hi all,

I understand that you need to have a premium $220 subscription in order to fully transfer a Yahoo Group to Groups.io

In the payment plans there is an option to pay $20 monthly. I chose that for my group, and then after making the payment I see that you have to *pay in full for the year* in order to get your group transferred.?? So, questions:

1. Is paying $20 a month for a year going to get my group transferred, or not? I'm paying the same money...

2. If I have to pay the $220 up front to get my group changed over, what do I do now? I can't find any page that shows what I've paid, or any way to change from $20 month to pay the full $220.00 .?

I would appreciate any info, and links to the appropriate pages if I need them. Thank you! :)

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 02:58 PM, Duane wrote:

If you send an invitation from the subgroup for those people to join it, everything should work smoothly.? If not, it should be reported to support.

There has been a lot of discussion about the 'join flow' for subgroups on the beta group and it has been tweaked several times, but seems to still have glitches.? A decent work around is to have them join the main group, then you can Direct Add them to the subgroup.? Or they can just join the subgroup on their own if it's not set to Restricted.

And that is the problem. Yes I could direct add them to the subgroup if I would know what subgroup they like to join.
But when someone is using the join button on a subgroup the join request will be listed on the main group. That means I don't have aclue to what subgroup the person like to be added.
In the moment I have to write every person that like to join a email to what subgroup they like to be added. This means I have to do this process by hand for each person that like to subscribe.

Duane

Isidro

On 11 Nov 2019 15:48, Duane wrote:

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 08:45 AM, Samuel Murray wrote:
But... they are not added to the parent group "as well".
If you Invite them to the subgroup,...

My apologies -- in my test, the user was not invited. The user tried to join the subgroup without being invited.

Samuel

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Exactly.? Our owner went missing back in 2009.? All the settings were then locked int an auto-pilot mode.?? Our moderator for 11 years tried to ask Yahoo to turn the group over to him, but to no avail.? We believe the owner actually DIED.
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Now the story gets even worse!? Our groups is the 2nd largest tractor membership on Yahoo.? JD only beats us out.? But there are 4 other related groups as well, created by our SAME owner!? Thus, we are now transferring all 5 groups over into 1 larger one.
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Wild, eh?? PGOffline has been the useful tool getting all of this data to one place, reviewed, structured and then ready to upload into Groups.io.?
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We are very pleased with the PG4 folks.? It's helped a great deal.? To do the regular Groups.io transfer would have been crazy for all the groups into one and the cost burden too.? Then the complications with not just the transfer, but the merging too.?
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Other than our group over there, 2 of the others are on full auto-pilot because the mods left a long while back too.

SOOOOOOOO,? YES, it's good to have the ability to transfer ownership or allow a mod to step up and take over when the time for a change of guard happens.?

-Bret

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 08:45 AM, Samuel Murray wrote:

But... they are not added to the parent group "as well".

If you Invite them to the subgroup, it does indeed add them to the main group if they accept the invitation.? If you're seeing otherwise, something is wrong and you may need to contact support.? Attempting to join the subgroup without being a member of the main/parent group follows a different path.

Duane
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On 11 Nov 2019 15:30, Frances wrote:

* As of Feb 2019, you can now invite someone to join a subgroup (they
will be added to the parent as well if they accept).

But... they are not added to the parent group "as well". They are added to the parent group only. Which is confusing.

In addition, the way subgroups are listed in the list of groups creates the impression that the main group is also a subgroup. So then it looks like they joined the wrong subgroup :-)

Samuel

Mister Andersen, you are right.

• Members of subgroups must be members of the main group.
• Members of main groups are not necessarily members of a subgroup.?
• As of Feb 2019, you can now invite someone to join a subgroup (they will be added to the parent as well if they accept).
• Members of the main (parent) group can be direct-added to a subgroup. This is true even in a Basic / Free group as long as they are already a member of the main group.
  
  see: ?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Subgroups

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I thought membership of the core group was a mandatory precondition of joining a subgroup?