On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 10:38 PM, 厂迟é辫丑补苍别 wrote:

How long is "a bit" ?

Right now, I'd give it 24 hours (or more.)? Normally indexing updates within an hour or less, but the huge load from the imports is causing delays.

Duane
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Van: [email protected] <[email protected]> Namens D R Stinson
Verzonden: zondag 27 oktober 2019 11:11
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Onderwerp: Re: [GMF] Searching for messages does not work

Be patient.
Dano



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On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 10:47 AM, D R Stinson wrote:

Be patient.

It is, I am told, a virtue. :)

Chris

On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 12:20 AM, I wrote:

I have somewhere I can put it to the test but it won't be "now" coz I need my sleep. :)

One night's sleep later...

Perhaps you had tried it! I have done some tests elsewhere and these are the results:

If the Special checkbox is ticked then the hashtag will appear in the list of hashtags available to all members but if one of them uses it the post will not be sent and they will receive a warning sign that the hashtag is for use by moderators only.

However, if the Special checkbox and the Moderated checkbox are both ticked then all members can select it and use it in a post. Obviously the message in question is then presented to Moderators for moderation irrespective of the member's moderation status, i.e. even if they normally not moderated on this occasion they will be. If the moderator is happy that the message be sent as a Special Notice and approves the message then it will indeed be sent as a Special Notice.?

It is worth noting that it is the Topic that is moderated, not just the initial post (i.e. the Special Notice) and that there is no unmissable warning to the moderator that the post will be sent as a special notice; whoever moderates the message may have to be on the look - out for messages sneaking through with Special Notice hashtags appended!

Hope that helps...

Chris

I got a PM almost immediately.

For anyone following this thread, my issue was that my new laptop didn't have me in the memory on Yahoo yet, so asked me for my email.

Access to the Yahoo groups as a manager requires using your yahoo mail login, which is whatever user name and password you'd chosen.

Now that I'm back at my computer, Chrome remembered my details, and automatically filled the spaces, which logged me in.

So, my next trick will be to discover how to mark the issue closed!

Thanks to the unnamed (haven't had permission to quote his letter yet) benefactor.

L8R

Skip

Be patient.
Dano

On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 09:57 AM, Harm Selling wrote:

What can I do to correct this?

Nothing; just sit and wait. See from Mark on beta.

Chris

Yes, wait and see what happens is all we can do. One of my groups currently being transferred is now at stage 3 (import to groups.io) with 420 groups ahead. The queue seems to be growing...

Dave

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y@es,

Is there some way of hiding a new Group from the public until after
the migration has completed?

No.

You can use the Visibility option to keep it out of the directory, but its home page would still be visible to anyone with the URL.

You can make the messages private (members only), but not if you intend them to be public later.

Shal


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Dave,

If I read Yahoo's statement correctly, from next Monday nobody will be
able to post online on Yahoogroups, nothing new will appear in the
archives, ...

I wonder if that is the case.

The help page uses the word "upload", but email postings are not usually referred to as "uploads". So I think there's a slim possibility that the Conversations section will continue to be updated by new postings, but that those postings can only be made by email.

This means that for those groups currently in the transfer process
only Yahoogroups messages posted before October 28th will be
transferred.

If indeed they stop updating Conversations on monday, then yes.

Of course what actually happens on Monday with Yahoo is anybody's
guess.

Exactly.

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Susan,

We want to start up with your service.

Be aware that GMF is a user-to-user help group. There are no Groups.io employees reading this group.

Without the owner/moderator of our Yahoo group we are unable to add
new members. This presents a huge problem with data transfer I
believe.

You are correct.

As a moderator you would need the "Invite and add members" privilege to invite the transfer agent to your group. Also, you need the "Add, remove, and change moderator privileges" privilege to promote the transfer agent to moderator.

But if the person who passed away was the only person with either the owner or moderator role, then I think you're stuck as far as using the Easy Group Transfer function is concerned.

I'll concur with flonafrank's recommendation of PG Offline. I've used it to capture archives of the Messages, Files, Photos, and Links in the Yahoo Groups I own. Even the ones that I've already transferred to Groups.io (why not, disk space is cheap and messages don't take that much room).

Once you have an archive of the content, even as a member, that preserves your options for the future. For example, it is possible for you to share a PG Offline archive among your board or even your members. They would need to download and run a copy of the program in order to read the archive, but they can do that using the Free trial, even once it has expired.

Shal


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Skip,

Yahoo does not recognize (despite my ability to post to each of the
three) my email address nor my email.

In Yahoo (unlike Groups.io) your subscription to a group might not be associated with any account, or may be associated with an account unrelated to that email address.

Despite my ability to post to the three lists I have there (one owned
two other merely a member),

If you are receiving messages from the one you own, open a recent message and examine its header (the full header). If it is a Gmail interface use the Show Original menu command; in other interfaces this function is sometimes called View Source.

Scroll down in the header looking for a field that begins with:

X-Yahoo-Profile:

The parameter on that line is the Yahoo Profile associated with that subscription, and is what you need to enter into Yahoo's Sign In page. Never mind that it prompts you for an Email Address, that's a change that is newer than Yahoo Group's code. Enter exactly the profile found in the header.

Alas, that field isn't present in messages sent to the group -owner address, you need a message posted to the group.

and my ability to SEE those groups, I cannot log into Yahoo.

By "see" I assume you mean that you can access each group's home page, but without logging in can't access the members-only content or owner controls.

If, despite the above, you can't sign in to the named profile don't despair. As long as you can receive emails from the group there's a way to transfer your subscription to a new Yahoo account. Ask again if you need details on that.

Shal


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On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 09:31 PM, Matthew Johnson wrote:

I think the reason it causes consternation is because short of the notice that pops up, there is confusion as to whether or not your invitations have all disappeared, Perhap an immediate email explaining the process and an estimated delay time would be an easy way to assuage moderator and owner doubts as to whether their invitations have disappeared permanently.

Sending invitations is just one of many aspects of Yahoo Groups that has been unreliable for some time. If an invitation fails to go through, there is no way for groups.io to know that you've tried to send one, or simply changed your mind and decided not to use the Easy[?] Group Transfer process at all.

It is up to you, the group owner, to actually check the status page and confirm that the invitation has been received. If so, it will say so in no uncertain terms in the boxed message at the top of the page. See?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/19948?for instructions on how to check status.

Regards,
Bruce

Linda,

The e-mail from groups.io to the transferees provides a link to the
group site. I gather that they're supposed to click that link ...

Correct. Or find their way by any other means to your group's Home page. Then scroll ...

to the bottom of that site page and click the green "Log In If You're
Already a Member" link. That will take them to the please log in page,
from which they should click on the "Forgot your password, or don't
have one yet" link.

Correct.

Then on the next page they can click on the "Send Log In Link" to
get their password e-mailed to them.

Close. The email contains a link, not a password. They click on that link and it logs them into the site.

At that point they can access the group's pages as a member. If they want, they can go to their Account page and set a password and/or various account preferences.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Logging-In

Is that right? I've tried it out though with a spare account that was
transferred over and no e-mail came to that account (or its spam
folder).

I'm not sure why not. One relatively common problem is making a typo in one's own email address when requesting a Log In Link. But other than that it should get to you.

Shal


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Perhaps a new feature request (the request to be submitted to beta, probably in 2020) would be to promote a designated Moderator (or Moderators) to Owner, if no Owner has logged in 30 days (or some other defined time)...

It appears to contain files, pictures, messages, links and attachments sent by all members. Definitely worth a try to gather as much historical data as you can. I was the owner of the group. I also received files, links and messages from other groups in which I was a member, not an owner. It did not provide me with photos from these other groups.

It appears to work. Several of the folks I invited were able to join the subgroup directly - and of course also got added to the parent group.

A couple for some reason didn't accept the invite and asked to join - but those came through as requests to join the parent group. After I approved those, I was able to direct-add them to the subgroup.

Su

Hi,

How long is "a bit" ?
I'm searching for messages sent more than 1h1/2 from now, either with the search or by #hashtag without success :
The search produced no results.

It's a pretty weird behavior, you click on the #hashtag next to a message and it can't find the message itself !