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Re: Signing in with Google or Facebook - data security and group promotion
Shal is correct. I got email and websites tangled up. Mia Culpa.
If you authenticate with Google through OpenID, Google see that you logged into Groups.io, but not which groups you've joined or which groups you have posted to or received email from. However, if you happen to use Gmail, Google knows all about your email, both addressing and content. Generally, I assume that all email, Gmail or not, is public, similar to post cards. Even when email is encrypted, which it often is these days, you depend on your recipients not forwarding your messages indiscriminately or inadvertently. If you are concerned about keeping your interaction with Groups.io as private as possible, your best bet is to take the "no email" option and interact solely through the groups.io web site using a Tor browser.? Even then, you depend on the other members of your group not being snooped on or forwarding your messages insecurely. When privacy is crucial, anything that is email-based, or has an email component, is a weak choice. Privacy on Groups.io does not concern me much because my purpose in using Groups.io is for public discussion of topics of interest. Where privacy is crucial, there are better platform choices. For instance, HIPAA compliant medical messaging systems are much more private than email. Best, Marv |
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Re: Power Point Slideshow
Probably the easiest way is to export all the PowerPoint slides as JPEGs or PNGs and upload them to a photo album, where the user can page through them. You would lose animations, sound, presenter's notes, etc...but by applying an appropriate naming convention and uploading the files in sequence the sort order would be maintained.
I don't think I'll be doing the wiki thing again. Bruce -- The system Help is your friend.??/static/help |
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Re: Power Point Slideshow
I thought possibly saving a *.pps rather than .?.ppt file might play directly in a browser. ?No joy, at least not with Chrome. However I tried creating a google SLIDES doc rather than PowerPoint, and of course if you post a link it opens in Chrome (didn¡¯t try MSIE.). But the user needs to know to hit a play drop down, otherwise s/he¡¯s just editing the slides. ?Maybe there¡¯s a way to automate playing/full screen/slideshow/etc. via google slides?
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There¡¯s a few different apps to create page flipping of a PDF (which opens directly in Chrome) by converting it to html. Example: On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 07:33 AM, Bruce Bowman wrote: On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 10:09 PM, Maureen wrote: |
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Re: Message Blocked Due to Spam Content
Bill,
Any quick easy fixes?Alas, no. User says they do not have any spam rules.That doesn't matter. A normal service-provider spam filter, or filters made by the user, wouldn't cause the messages to be rejected. Instead they'd divert the messages to the user's Spam, Junk, or Trash folder. A service-provider filter that rejects (rather than diverts) spam messages is a bit of an anomaly. The user will have to show that response Reason to the technical support of their service provider and demand that the provider whitelist Groups.io, or at least your group, so that the user can receive your group's messages. In my opinion, if the service provider is unwilling or unable to do that, then they aren't a provider worth using. The user will never be able to trust that the provider isn't rejecting other valuable messages. And worse, the user would never know because most senders don't provide a mechanism to learn that messages were rejected. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: Signing in with Google or Facebook - data security and group promotion
Marv,
... or simply knowing that you log into a certain Groups.io mightThey might know you logged in to Groups.io, but they wouldn't know which group(s) you visited while there. Because I use Gmail Google "knows" not only which groups I get messages from, but the content of those messages. But that's because of the email, I've never logged in to Groups.io using Facebook or Google. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: Move messages/threads between groups / subgroups?
No.? That feature has been requested, but it is not (yet?) implemented.
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Re: questions about bouncing
Added a section to the GMF Wiki ->?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Dealing-with-Bouncing
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Re: Signing in with Google or Facebook - data security and group promotion
I've spent some time on the OpenID standard, which governs the borrowing of authentication from third party providers like Google or Facebook. When you use a third party to authenticate using OpenID to Groups.io, the third party becomes aware that you have authenticated with Groups.io, but under the standard, the third party does not have access to the information you have exchanged with Groups.io. Using third-party authentication does have vulnerabilities. If, for example, you use Google for authentication and your Google account is hacked, the hacker gets access to your Groups.io account also. The hacker can log into your Groups.io account using your stolen Google password.
On the privacy side, the third party may not have access to your group's posts to Groups.io, but they know when you logged in and therefore they have clues for spreading their net to nab more information about you. For example, if you use Google's gmail, Google scans your email for information that interests them. (See your Gmail Terms of Service.) Knowing that you have logged in to Groups.io may trigger something in Google's information collection system to scan your email in a certain way, or simply knowing that you log into a certain Groups.io might trigger certain Google ads. For example, I understand that being able to target persons with certain chronic diseases (like diabetes) is quite valuable in on-line advertising. Being a member of a chronic disease group on Groups.io might trigger a spate of targeted drug ads. I don't know that Google does this, but it is possible. Like Duane, I avoid alternate third-party authentication services. I don't worry much about privacy anymore. Basically, I've given up on it. Instead I use ad-blockers and realize that I have the same level of privacy in the world as I once had when I lived in a rural neighborhood where everyone knew everyone's secrets. But I do worry about trusting third-parties and I use multi-factor authentication whenever I can. is a bit dated now, but I provide some detail on OpenID and other similar standards. Best, Marv |
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Re: Member access to databases in subgroup
On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 10:57 AM, Beth Weld wrote:
That is subtle, but the change worked.?Glad that it helped! Be advised that photos/albums and files also have subscriber-owners...and messages, for that matter. Groups.io provides for some level of restriction at that level for handling those, too. For example, in some groups (like this one), you and select Moderators can edit your messages, while a regular subscriber cannot.?Although databases have more available Permissions settings than photos and files, the concept is the same. I don't see an option for disallowing an export which would be nice because these particular databases have email addresses in them, oh well.Restricting the table export function wouldn't accomplish much. Someone could instead just select those email addresses from the display, copy it to their clipboard, and paste it wherever they want. Read access is read access...if a subscriber can see it, they can copy it.? Regards, Bruce -- The system Help is your friend.??/static/help |
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Re: Signing in with Google or Facebook - data security and group promotion
On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 07:33 AM, the Group Administrator wrote:
If people sign in via Facebook or Google, do these companies start tracking them? Are these companies able to see the data on Groups.io?I suggest that you read the groups.io Terms of Service, specifically the section on Social Networking, which I am appending below for your convenience. Hope this helps, Bruce Social Networking ServicesYou may enable or log in to the Service via various online third party services, such as social media and social networking services like Facebook or Twitter (¡°Social Networking Services¡±). By logging in or directly integrating these Social Networking Services into the Service, we make your online experiences richer and more personalized. To take advantage of this feature and capabilities, we may ask you to authenticate, register for or log into Social Networking Services on the websites of their respective providers. As part of such integration, the Social Networking Services will provide us with access to certain information that you have provided to such Social Networking Services, and we will use, store and disclose such information in accordance with our?Privacy Policy. For more information about the implications of activating these Social Networking Services and Groups.io¡¯s use, storage and disclosure of information related to you and your use of such services within Groups.io (including your friend lists and the like), please see our?Privacy Policy. However, please remember that the manner in which Social Networking Services use, store and disclose your information is governed solely by the policies of such third parties, and Groups.io shall have no liability or responsibility for the privacy practices or other actions of any third party site or service that may be enabled within the Service. In addition, Groups.io is not responsible for the accuracy, availability or reliability of any information, content, goods, data, opinions, advice or statements made available in connection with Social Networking Services. As such, Groups.io is not liable for any damage or loss caused or alleged to be caused by or in connection with use of or reliance on any such Social Networking Services. Groups.io enables these features merely as a convenience and the integration or inclusion of such features does not imply an endorsement or recommendation. --The system Help is your friend.??/static/help |
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Re: Signing in with Google or Facebook - data security and group promotion
On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 06:33 AM, the Group Administrator wrote:
If people sign in via Facebook or Google, do these companies start tracking them? Are these companies able to see the data on Groups.io? Automatic sign in might attract new users, but what disadvantages does it have?Upfront, I should say that I don't use alternative log ins.? I did a little reading this morning about using alternate sign ins.? In general, it's not recommended, but is quite often done for convenience.? It should be obvious that the alternate site will now know that you have an account at Groups.io, but only limited information should be exchanged in order to accomplish the login.? Since there is no tracking done on this site, there should be no way for the other services to do additional tracking.? The only information they can 'see' here would be the login procedure.? Depending on a person's settings for the alternate, there may or may not be additional information added to their visible account on that site. Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
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Re: Member access to databases in subgroup
On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 07:49 AM, Beth Weld wrote:
I have a subgroup that has several databases.? In settings I have it set up so that a member can view, but not create.?Databases have subscriber-owners, and access can be restricted at the table and row level, depending on the desires of that owner. Open each database and click the Edit Table Properties button at the top. On the ensuing page, scroll down, make sure all the Permissions settings are the way you want them, then click the blue Update button at the bottom. ? Hope this helps, Bruce -- The system Help is your friend.??/static/help |
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