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Re: Yahoo Transfers are On Again!

 

Richard,

Please CANCEL my prior request.
Nobody at GMF can do that for you - this is a user-to-user forum.

If your transfer request still appears in the Existing Transfers list you can probably cancel it yourself. If you had already given the final "go ahead" then Groups.io support would be your better bet: [email protected]

I had requested a transfer of my yahoo group just prior to time they
were suspended. During the suspension I transferred my yahoo group ...
You might go ahead with it anyway, to fill in whatever gaps may have been left in your manual process.

For members in particular, the transfer agent will skip any addresses that already appear in your Groups.io group. For other content the copy would likely create duplicates, unless there are whole sections that you left out and would like to now pick up.

Shal


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Re: Yahoo Transfers are On Again!

RICHARD TAYLOR
 

I had requested a transfer of my yahoo group just prior to time they were suspended.? During the suspension I transferred my yahoo group (GPDAks) manually.? Please CANCEL my prior request.

Yahoo Group - GPDAks

Groups.io - GPDA

thanks

Richard

GPDA Owner

On January 10, 2019 at 9:23 PM Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:

Mark has a fix, at least temporarily, ? Get in line now! ;>)

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Yahoo Transfers are On Again!

 

Mark has a fix, at least temporarily, ? Get in line now! ;>)

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Re: Bulk remove feature

 

Bruce

Thank you - that worked! I have noted the procedure for when I have to do it again. Some email addresses were "not subscribed" and spme were "other error" whatever that means!

Margaret
UK


On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 09:02 AM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
For bulk delete (or add), groups.io expects a plain-text file, with one email address per line, conforming with the same format used to enter names in the box above. It will not recognize an Excel file.

In Excel, highlight the column containing the email addresses, hit CTRL-C to copy it onto your clipboard, then paste that into Notepad. Edit out the column header information and save as plain text. This should give you what you want.

Hope this helps,
Bruce
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Re: RSVP to event question

 

Hi Nancy,

I'm also looking at RSVP use at the moment and I found that in the beta group in 2017 Mark Flecther posted this comment that may be of use:
One way to prevent responses to calendar reminders is to edit the #cal-reminder hashtag, which all reminders are tagged with. Check the 'Locked' option, and no one will be able to reply.
See for the full thread.

Regards,
Andy
Re: RSVP to event question

 

I tried responding via the RSVP link and by adding the event to my personal calendar, but neither of these responses sent a message to our message board. I'd love to know how she did it.?
Re: Adding Via Groups IO to my sender name

[email protected]
 

HI Shal

Thanks for that explanation.? I sort of kind of understand what you are saying.? So it appears this is going to happen with any email I use?
I have an outlook account I can use but no point changing it if that is going to be added to it.? It started with my ZOHO mail and so I changed to Gmail
and now it's there also.?? It's a real PITA for sure.

Thanks for your time and help.? Much appreciated.

Regards
Loopy
Re: RSVP to event question

 

That's the one scenario I didn't test. I'll go try that now to see what happens.?
Re: RSVP to event question

 

On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 11:52 AM, Nancy Funk wrote:
Can anyone she'd some light on what happened?
To actually RSVP, subscribers have to click the RSVP link (and possibly log in). It appears to me as if she replied to the invitation notice instead.?
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Re: Bulk remove feature

 

On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 11:25 AM, A and M Parker wrote:
I have a list of those email addresses in an Excel spreadsheet and I ventured to use the Bulk Remove feature from the Members page. I submitted the name of the file where asked? and clicked on Remove Members.
For bulk delete (or add), groups.io expects a plain-text file, with one email address per line, conforming with the same format used to enter names in the box above. It will not recognize an Excel file.

In Excel, highlight the column containing the email addresses, hit CTRL-C to copy it onto your clipboard, then paste that into Notepad. Edit out the column header information and save as plain text. This should give you what you want.

Hope this helps,
Bruce
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RSVP to event question

 

A new member to our group somethi posted this message on one of subgroup message boards. It seems she tried RSVP to an event, but I can't figure out what she actually did, because her response is not recorded on the event and instead this message was posted. Can anyone she'd some light on what happened?

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Re: Move a message into a different topic

 

Jim,


A "proper" email client/interface will delete the In-Reply-To and References
headers in a reply if the sender changes the subject line...

That may be true in some perfect world, but may not be the case when dealing with the vast array of email interfaces members use in Groups.io. The threading algorithm employed by Groups.io has evolved to reasonably handle the various cases found in the wild.

I don't recall if I've checked that behavior specifically with Eudora Classic (which I no longer use) or Thunderbird (my replacement for Eudora). I know that both of them remove those fields if you open a reply and "Edit as new" (create a new message with the same addressees and content) - which frequently trips me up because I generally wanted the message thus created to be treated as a reply in the same topic.

Shal


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Re: Threading algorithm

 

On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 03:46 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
You need to look at the message header.
Bruce; thanks for the quick reply. Having looked at some sample headers I see what you are referring to, but have decided that it is not something I expect to do much - if at all - in the future. :)

However, given that the concept of threading information appears in the wiki, does the point require further clarification? Anyone visiting the wiki "cold" is likely to be as stumped as I was until you provided that additional information. Having only just been told, I am hardly the best person to provide that clarification unless it could be limited to If a message has threading information within the header, use that, with perhaps * leading the reader to your sentence starting "Online..." by which I assume you mean "Using the web UI..."

Chris

Re: Move a message into a different topic

 

Ken,


What I mean is I moved everything to one topic.?
I use that subject for a new email. Instead of dropping into that topic, it starts a new topic, same name exactly. ??

In your new email, if you added Re: in front of the subject text it should have matched the existing topic from the last 30 days with the same subject text. "Re:", and versions of that in various languages, is ignored for matching. If you didn't add Re: in front then the existing topic must be within the last two days.

Here are the exact rules:

By "threading information" Mark is referring to the header fields In-Reply-To: and References:, inserted into the header of replies by most email interfaces.

Shal

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Re: Threading algorithm

Jim Higgins
 

Received from Chris Jones via Groups.Io at 1/10/2019 03:28 PM UTC:

On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 10:11 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

From the linked wiki page:

Here is the threading algorithm:

If a message has threading information, use that.

If a message does not have threading information:

I might be the only person who doesn't know but could someone possibly explain what threading information actually is? OK; if something starts "Re:" then I would see that as threading information, but what is there beyond that? How would I recognise it "by inspection"?

The subject line, especially the "Re:" part, has (should have) nothing to do with threading. Messages are threaded by reference to the Message-ID (MID) of the original message and the Message-IDs of the subsequent replies. Message-IDs are unique. Those IDs are contained in the In-Reply-To and References headers. In-Reply-To contains the MID of the message being replied to and the References header contains the MIDs of prior replies to replies to replies all the way back to the original message. If you create a new message with the same subject line as an ongoing thread, the email client/interface that you create the new message in has no knowledge of the thread of other messages with the same subject line so that message become the first message in a new thread. Threads can branch, but all messages in all branches will trace back to the original message.

Some email clients - notably MS Outlook at one time - didn't (and perhaps some still don't) observe the convention that a reply with a changed subject starts a new thread.

Jim H
Bulk remove feature

 

I am spring cleaning my members list to remove those people who no longer wish to belong to the Group.

I have a list of those email addresses in an Excel spreadsheet and I ventured to use the Bulk Remove feature from the Members page. I submitted the name of the file where asked? and clicked on Remove Members. I got no message back, errors or not, and assumed the list had been acted upon.

It is now apparent that nothing has happened.

What have I done wrong please?

Margaret
UK
Re: Move a message into a different topic

Jim Higgins
 

Received from Shal Farley at 1/10/2019 06:58 AM UTC:

If you mean that you edited the messages while pending, I've had mixed results with that. If the incoming messages have In-Reply-To fields in their headers that may derail your edit attempt.

A "proper" email client/interface will delete the In-Reply-To and References headers in a reply if the sender changes the subject line... thus making that message the first message in a new thread (topic) if threading is based on In-Reply-To and References headers.

Jim H
Re: Profile and Directory Query #profile #directory

 

Thanks. Exactly what I needed.

lloyd lehrer

On Wed, Jan 9, 2019, 8:50 PM Frances <frances@... wrote:

I think, Lloyd, you would have to set up a database.?
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Frances

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Re: Threading algorithm

 

On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 10:39 AM, Chris Jones wrote:
I might be the only person who doesn't know but could someone possibly explain what threading information actually is? OK; if something starts "Re:" then I would see that as threading information, but what is there beyond that? How would I recognise it "by inspection"??
You need to look at the message header. Online, open the More menu and select View Source. If the post is not a new topic, there will be "References" and "In-Reply-To" entries. I believe groups.io uses these (especially the latter) for threading of incoming emails.

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Bruce?
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Re: Threading algorithm

 

On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 10:11 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:
I have similarly reverted GMF's corresponding wiki page.
From the linked wiki page:

Here is the threading algorithm:

If a message has threading information, use that.

If a message does not have threading information:

I might be the only person who doesn't know but could someone possibly explain what threading information actually is? OK; if something starts "Re:" then I would see that as threading information, but what is there beyond that? How would I recognise it "by inspection"??

Chris

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