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Re: Automated Member Count

 

I guess you will have to do it manually for at least a while.?
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From: Ed Moser
Date: 12/21/2018 10:11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [GMF] Automated Member Count
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We thought about doing it manually but we were hoping for an automated way to do it.
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Thank You?for the information.
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Ed Moser

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Facebook page integration issue

 

Hello, I'm receiving an error message "That name does not appear to be the name of a Facebook Page"? ?when we try to plug in a URL to integrate FB with our group.? ?Is there a fix for this?

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Laurie C.?


Re: Automated Member Count

 

We thought about doing it manually but we were hoping for an automated way to do it.
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Thank You?for the information.
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Ed Moser
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of magicalkingdomgroups@... <magicalkingdomgroups@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 8:45 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] Automated Member Count
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Just a thought
?Manually put in the Welcome message the?New Member Count?each time it changes?OR you can say as of December 13th 7:37?PM CST we have 250 members.
The next time you can say as of December 21st 6:00 PM CST we have 248 members.
Your membership can go down as well as up.
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Of course you put in the current date, time and how many members you have.
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You can update that?once a week if you need to.
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You know I have learned not to give out information unless asked or needed.
They can always get the member count from the home page if they really wanted it.
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Depending upon what they are looking for seeing a member count in a Welcome email may turn them off to staying in your group. If it is a high number they may think it will be too much mail for them. If it is a low number they may think not to much activity going on. I would let them find out the group?member count on their own.
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Just my opinion. Ilene?
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Re: Automated Member Count

 

Ilene
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Most of our users do not go to the web they use the email system.
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We are a retirement community and we have a monthly newsletter (printed) and in the newsletter we have instructions telling them to send an email to [email protected] with their First and Last Name and their address to obtain membership.? We then send them an invite to join.
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Thank you?for your response.
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Ed Moser
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of magicalkingdomgroups@... <magicalkingdomgroups@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 6:45 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] Automated Member Count
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How do they join the group?
Don't they have to go to the homepage to join?
They can easily scroll down to see the membership count if they were interested.
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It may not be a good thing depending upon whether an individual is looking for a group with loads of members and?the group they are joining has?a little bit of members or visa versa.
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Ilene?
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Re: using the group?s owner address shows senders alias

 

Victoria,


Isn?t there an option to send a message just in the owner?s or moderator?s name without showing sender?s alias?
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If you're using Send Message (from the Members list) or New Topic then the From address is a drop-list. Select the +owner address instead of your own.

Reply does not have that option, I'm not sure why not.

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using the group?s owner address shows senders alias

 

why is it that sending a message using the group?s owner address as sender shows the sender?s personal alias? I wanted to send a message from the moderators/owners to the group and hoped it would not show my name and alias.

Isn?t there an option to send a message just in the owner?s or moderator?s name without showing sender?s alias?
Victoria


Re: Automated Member Count

 

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Just a thought
?Manually put in the Welcome message the?New Member Count?each time it changes?OR you can say as of December 13th 7:37?PM CST we have 250 members.
The next time you can say as of December 21st 6:00 PM CST we have 248 members.
Your membership can go down as well as up.
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Of course you put in the current date, time and how many members you have.
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You can update that?once a week if you need to.
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You know I have learned not to give out information unless asked or needed.
They can always get the member count from the home page if they really wanted it.
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Depending upon what they are looking for seeing a member count in a Welcome email may turn them off to staying in your group. If it is a high number they may think it will be too much mail for them. If it is a low number they may think not to much activity going on. I would let them find out the group?member count on their own.
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Just my opinion. Ilene?
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Date: 12/20/2018 5:44:27 PM
Subject: Re: [GMF] Automated Member Count
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On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 06:14 PM, Ed Moser wrote:
We (Owners/Moderators) were wondering if there is a way to automatically include the member count in the welcome message sent to new members?
Short answer: No, this is not currently an available feature using the existing group owner interface.?

Long answer: I checked the corresponding section in my own home page and the number of members appears as a string literal, undoubtedly generated as needed on the server side.?So you would have to pay for Premium access, query the membership database, and figure out how to send the result in an outgoing email. I don't have enough experience in the groups.io API to know if this can be done (the API group displays very little activity).

Hope this helps,
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Re: Automated Member Count

 

Ed,


We (Owners/Moderators) were wondering if there is a way to automatically include the member count in the welcome message sent to new members?


I don't know of any text merge features available in the welcome notice (or any of the others), apart from the built-in substitution of addressee name in the boilerplate part of the Invite and Direct Add notices.

That's not a bad idea though; you could drop it into the . It would be useful to "mail merge" those notices against the facts available to the join process (addressee name and address) and basic facts about the group such as member count.?

We would like to let our new members know how many other people are in the group.? We would also like to put this information in the Monthly Guidelines message that is sent out.


You could fake it with some vague and periodically updated statement like "over 1300 members". Of course that leaves you with stale info if you forget to update it, which is presumably why you want an automation to do it.

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Re: Automated Member Count

 

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How do they join the group?
Don't they have to go to the homepage to join?
They can easily scroll down to see the membership count if they were interested.
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It may not be a good thing depending upon whether an individual is looking for a group with loads of members and?the group they are joining has?a little bit of members or visa versa.
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Ilene?
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From: Ed Moser
Date: 12/20/18 17:15:03
Subject: [GMF] Automated Member Count
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I have looked but have not found an answer to this question.? I admit I may not have used the proper wording in my search.

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We (Owners/Moderators) were wondering if there is a way to automatically include the member count in the welcome message sent to new members?

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Example:? Our present membership is XXX (Where XXX is automatically updated by the system).

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We would like to let our new members know how many other people are in the group.? We would also like to put this information in the Monthly Guidelines message that is sent out.

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We realize that this information can be seen on the Home Page of the web site, but most of our members are only using the email feature.

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Thank you very much for any information you can provide.

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Ed Moser

Owner

Cypress Lakes Resort

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Re: Automated Member Count

 

On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 06:14 PM, Ed Moser wrote:
We (Owners/Moderators) were wondering if there is a way to automatically include the member count in the welcome message sent to new members?
Short answer: No, this is not currently an available feature using the existing group owner interface.?

Long answer: I checked the corresponding section in my own home page and the number of members appears as a string literal, undoubtedly generated as needed on the server side.?So you would have to pay for Premium access, query the membership database, and figure out how to send the result in an outgoing email. I don't have enough experience in the groups.io API to know if this can be done (the API group displays very little activity).

Hope this helps,
Bruce
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Automated Member Count

 

I have looked but have not found an answer to this question.? I admit I may not have used the proper wording in my search.

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We (Owners/Moderators) were wondering if there is a way to automatically include the member count in the welcome message sent to new members?

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Example:? Our present membership is XXX (Where XXX is automatically updated by the system).

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We would like to let our new members know how many other people are in the group.? We would also like to put this information in the Monthly Guidelines message that is sent out.

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We realize that this information can be seen on the Home Page of the web site, but most of our members are only using the email feature.

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Thank you very much for any information you can provide.

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Ed Moser

Owner

Cypress Lakes Resort


Re: Groups.io - secure connection

Gerald Boutin
 

On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 04:09 PM, A and M Parker wrote:
A group member gets the following message when she tries to access any of the links, especially the Photo link, in a subgroup.

"This site can¡¯t provide a secure connection

ukwsdonline.groups.io?sent an invalid response."

I have a feeling I have seen this error message mentioned before but I cannot find any reference to it in messages to this group, so apologies of I have missed something.

How can I advise the member please?

Margaret
Leeds, UK


Margaret,

This is a relatively common problem, typically due to problems with browser settings in accessing secure connections. There are lots of website articles and videos on how to correct this.

Here's one example:?https://www.ssl2buy.com/wiki/how-to-fix-err-ssl-protocol-error

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Re: Groups.io - secure connection

 

Margaret, I am no expert but the site does use SSL.?
The URL for your message is?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/13898

Notice the https in the URL.

Frances
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Groups.io - secure connection

 

A group member gets the following message when she tries to access any of the links, especially the Photo link, in a subgroup.

"This site can¡¯t provide a secure connection

ukwsdonline.groups.io?sent an invalid response."

I have a feeling I have seen this error message mentioned before but I cannot find any reference to it in messages to this group, so apologies of I have missed something.

How can I advise the member please?

Margaret
Leeds, UK


Re: Address format not restored by deleting subgroup #groupname #subgroups

 

Michael,

I would consider subgroups if:
-the official email address remained unchanged <[email protected]>
-subgroups were the intuitive <[email protected]> or even <[email protected]>
To elaborate on my answer to Sarah, putting the subgroup names in the user field of the address was originally how it was done. One of the disadvantages is that the email commands already live in that space. So you end up with constructs like:

[email protected]

Which was thought to be rather ugly. I had forgotten this, but for a while both formats existed at once:


The subdomain format, [email protected], also fit with Marks plans with regard to Enterprise groups and their ability to use custom domain names for their groups. Those can be addressed as ExampleSub@...; so consistency was another argument for using the subdomain format with non-Enterprise groups (or enterprise groups that don't have their own domain).

You are free, of course, to bring this up in beta - just be aware that it is not a new topic and you'll likely need to address the comments and reasons already discussed there.


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Re: Address format not restored by deleting subgroup #groupname #subgroups

 

Sarah,


Why not email this to the support address or discuss it on the beta group.

This was discussed extensively on the beta group when subgroups were first being implemented. Specifically including variations such as those Michael suggests.I don't think you'll find much enthusiasm for changing it now.

Search beta for "subgroup" and "subdomain", maybe also "addressing" to find those threads.

Shal


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Re: Address format not restored by deleting subgroup #groupname #subgroups

 

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Why not email this to the support address or discuss it on the beta group. I like the idea. I did change my mail address for my lists, but yeah I like yoru idea as well.

On 19 Dec 2018, at 19:31, Michael Pavan wrote:

I added a subgroup to my groups.io account and didn't realize that would cause me to lose my [email protected] email address. It automatically converted to main@[email protected]. In my opinion, the latter is far too long and I'd like to revert my group back to the original.

Yes, it is not lost - however it is now an alias, as the ¡®official¡¯ email address of your group has changed to a less intuitive one.
Why does Groups.io screw-up a sensible email address to create confusion and an odd email address???


This is why I do not permit Subgroups in any of my Groups.

I would consider subgroups if:
-the official email address remained unchanged <[email protected]>
-subgroups were the intuitive <[email protected]> or even <[email protected]>






Re: TLS errors delivering mails to @pp.inet.fi destinations

 

Groups.io supports TLS 1.2 as noted in ? It would seem to me that the ISP cipher is the source of the problem.

Duane
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Re: TLS errors delivering mails to @pp.inet.fi destinations

Erik Finskas OH2LAK
 

Thanks Shal for your reply.

It looks like the provider requires TLS v1.2 on the handshake and without that the handshake fails.

I will send this finding to groups.io support for further actions.

Thanks,
Erik


transfer files aso to Groups

 

Started a new group, see that Groups i.o. is not able to transfer files from Yahoo yet.
Now I want to look if I can do it myself.? Just export from yahoo an CVS file , but when I want to upload it to Groups nothing happens.

What to do ? or how ?

Thanks in advance,
Cees? [email protected]