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Re: owner not receiving notifications

 

On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 09:57 AM, Patti wrote:
I never received an email notification to one of my email addresses
Have you checked the Email Delivery History for that member email address?? Could be that it is/was bouncing.? Some providers accept emails, then deliver them at a later time, too.

Duane
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Re: Adding a File to a newly created group

 

On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 02:16 PM, Robin Harder wrote:
When I go to the "Files" tab on the left, both the "New Folder" and "Upload File" tabs are not highlighted where I can click on them.
Go to Admin>Settings>Files>Permissions and ensure this is set correctly. If it is, you're probably out of space. Basic groups are only allowed 1 GB of storage. See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Managing-Attachments%2C-Files-and-Photos?for more details.

Hope this helps,
Bruce?
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Adding a File to a newly created group

WVSA Admin
 

Hi,
I am new to groups.io. I just created 2 groups for my nonprofit, but am having problems uploading files. When I go to the "Files" tab on the left, both the "New Folder" and "Upload File" tabs are not highlighted where I can click on them. Where do I go to give myself (and additional people) these permissions?

Thank you,
Robin
owner not receiving notifications

 

Hello all. Please forgive me if this has already been discussed, but I just cannot keep up with the volume of messages.

Today I was on the website of one of my groups and noted that yesterday a member left the group. The notification was in the group activity section, but I never received an email notification to one of my email addresses - I have multiple email addresses listed as owners, and one of them did get the notification. I checked the settings, and both email addresses, the one that got the notification, and the one that did not, have exactly the same boxes checked, including notifications in the event someone leaves the group. I have also checked the spam folder and the message did not end up there. I am still receiving group messages to the email address in question.

So, is this just a one time (I hope!) glitch that I should just monitor and only worry about if it becomes an always event, or is there something I can do now to be proactive?

Thanks for any advice and/or help!

Patti
Re: from "email via Groups.io" #bug

 

Also, it appears that a similar issue is occurring when a person (who usually has the from name as?"email" via Groups.io) replies to a "regularly formatted email" - their reply is not broadcast to the group.
from "email via Groups.io" #bug

 

We are seeing issues with responding to original messages that have the 'from' name reformatted to: "email" via Groups.io.? Essentially, it appears that certain people in our group when replying to a message with the name formatted in this manner is not getting their reply email broadcast properly to the entire group.

Anyone else seeing this?
Re: Abusive person, how to get rid of him?

 

Today, the Constitution means little to those who disagree with money to waste and not much more to the judicial system as can be seen in Masterpiece Cakeshop Ltd. v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission.

I don't think any of our groups would give rise to enough publicity to make it worth the time of an unscrupulous lawyer, but a cautious approach has become justified.

Ken

"You do what you can for as long as you can, and when you finally can't, you do the next best thing. You back up but you don't give up." ¨DChuck Yeager

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From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Higgins
Sent: Tuesday, December 4, 2018 2:13 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] Abusive person, how to get rid of him?


I have no idea what you're trying to say below, but... if a group isn't run
by a governmental entity there's no problem with rules that restrict the type
of speech allowed. And even in a governmentally run group, there's no problem
with insisting that posters be both civil and on topic.

Jim H



Received from Ken Schweizer at 12/4/2018 01:02 AM UTC:

I would be cautious in this person has money he wants to spend. I a group
can make any rules regarding speech so can a business as the "he" could
start a group or business. In today's PC world logic isn't followed.

Just my guess,

Ken
Re: access to databases #database

 

Hi Yvonne,

Did you check out the instructions on the wiki?
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Databases

I assume that you have enabled databases in settings on your site -?
Database, permissions, max image size.
Permissions?? ?? ?? ?? ? Subscribers can view and create tables ?? ?? ?? ?? ? Subscribers can view, moderators can create tables ?? ?? ?? ?? ? Subscribers cannot view, moderators can create tables ?? ?? ?? ?? ? Databases are disabled ? ? ?? ?? ?

Who can view and modify group databases.

Max Image Size In Databases?? ?? ?? ?? ? No resizing ?? ?? ?? ?? ? Resized to a max of 140x140 ?? ?? ?? ?? ? Resized to a max of 312x312 ?? ?? ?? ?? ? Resized to a max of 488x488 ?? ?? ?? ?? ? Resized to a max of 1024x1024 ?? ?? ?? ?? ? Resized to a max of 2048x2048 ?? ?? ?? ?? ? Resized to a max of 4096x4096 ? ? ?? ?? ?

Automatically resize photos uploaded to the database tables that are larger than a specific size.

Frances
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Re: access to databases #database

 

On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 10:30 AM, Yvonne Lawson wrote:
I am a newish member , and I am struggling to access the databases.? When I click on the link I am asked for my Microsoft name and password with a warning that the page is not secure and anyone can see it .
Which link are you talking about? Did it appear in a group email?

Groups.io has no affiliation with MicroSoft. You could try following the login instructions found at?/static/help#password, but it sounds very much like Mongenes has a separate web site somewhere, and you're trying to login there.?To have any hope of helping you with that, you will have to provide the web address.

If I click the 'database' button on the Mongenes homepage I get 'page not found message'. ? Please can someone advise me what I am doing wrong.
If the?MonGenes?group has dead links and you're clicking on them, you are doing nothing wrong. The problem is with the site.

I suggest you send this inquiry to [email protected]. The group owner and/or webmaster should be able to address your issues more expediently than anyone here.
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Hope this helps,
Bruce
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Re: Abusive person, how to get rid of him?

 

The first amendment simply says congress cannot make a law limiting freedom of speech. Groups.io groups are not congress. Groups.io is not congress.? As group owners and moderators, we are free to make our own rules and policies regarding what may or may not appear in our groups. We are all free to encourage or enforce whatever level of civility and range of topics we choose for our groups. What I allow in a group may be quite different from what you allow in your group. Trolls are free to be trolls, but they have to find a venue that will accept them. We are not obliged to provide a venue for them.
Best, Marv
access to databases #database

Yvonne Lawson
 

? ? I am a newish member , and I am struggling to access the databases.? When I click on the link I am asked for my Microsoft name and password with a warning that the page is not secure and anyone can see it . If I click the 'database' button on the Mongenes homepage I get 'page not found message'. ? Please can someone advise me what I am doing wrong.
Yvonne
Re: Abusive person, how to get rid of him?

Jim Higgins
 

I have no idea what you're trying to say below, but... if a group isn't run by a governmental entity there's no problem with rules that restrict the type of speech allowed. And even in a governmentally run group, there's no problem with insisting that posters be both civil and on topic.

Jim H



Received from Ken Schweizer at 12/4/2018 01:02 AM UTC:

I would be cautious in this person has money he wants to spend. I a group can make any rules regarding speech so can a business as the "he" could start a group or business. In today's PC world logic isn't followed.

Just my guess,

Ken
Re: Abusive person, how to get rid of him?

 

Abuse is abuse, and should be stopped. Moderate every new member until you are sure who they are. I Own lots of fully-moderated Groups, because we are technical-advice forums and we deprecate the usual myths, misinformations, and utter rubbish that gets posted and reposted otherwise. We state this clearly in the Group descriptions and we do reject quite a lot of posts (not least because we ask that all previous content is trimmed)
So, the phrase to use is "This is not a Democracy" - and if your unmodded members are repeating posts verbatim, I suggest you put them on moderation too, until they learn not to do that..
Rudeness can be useful, but hate speech and the like are actually unlawful, unpleasant, and un-called-for..?
And, I'm in the UK, so no Amendments apply, but even in the US, you don't have the right to be obnoxious repeatedly, and I always have the right to tell you to get lost
HH
Vintage Sewing Machine Groups and Sundry Others
Re: Abusive person, how to get rid of him?

 

I would be cautious in this person has money he wants to spend. I a group can make any rules regarding speech so can a business as the "he" could start a group or business. In today's PC world logic isn't followed.

?

Just my guess,

Ken

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"And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." God

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ullman Garrett
Sent: Monday, December 3, 2018 3:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] Abusive person, how to get rid of him?

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Just to be absolutely clear,? you are not in violation the first amendment. I am one of 2 owners of a group and we researched this subject several months ago. A private group can make whatever rules it wishes around what to allow.

This person is perfectly free to start their own group.

Ullmang



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Message edited with mandatory hashtag added doesn't show up? #hashtags

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Hi,

The group settings are "Hashtags Required" and Bounced if hashtag not in the list.
After sending a mail to the list without hashtag in the subject, it bounces back, with a link /editsubject/somenumber in the message.

So far so good.

But from there, after adding a mandatory hashtag (selected from the pull down list), and hitting Update And Send, I have no idea where the message goes. It doesn't shows up in the Pending list or nowhere.

I tried everything in the test group without success. What am I doing wrong ?

Thank you,
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Re: Changing email address

Alan Robbins
 

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Hope,

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All changed and so far all seems to be working as it was with old address.

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Al

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Hope Williamson via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, December 3, 2018 4:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] Changing email address

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Sometimes there isn¡¯t a particular group protocol for changing addresses.
Re: Changing email address

Hope Williamson
 

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Sometimes there isn¡¯t a particular group protocol for changing addresses.
Re: Abusive person, how to get rid of him?

 

Just to be absolutely clear,? you are not in violation the first amendment. I am one of 2 owners of a group and we researched this subject several months ago. A private group can make whatever rules it wishes around what to allow.
This person is perfectly free to start their own group.
Ullmang

On Mon, Dec 3, 2018, 2:57 PM ray_r.rm via Groups.Io <ray_r=[email protected] wrote:
Thanks Marv and others!
This abusive person had one agenda that the rest of? us have rejected several years ago.
The discussion then was intense, but the opinion of thoughtful people was sought.
All of the rest (1000 or so) of us have moved on.
But this one person keeps bringing it up. He is polite but the fact that he has signed up with now 5 different usernames tell me a lot.
Trouble is that everyone who supported me (Owned and Moderator) in this situation includes his message, and does not delete it. He won't move on because he is in the same "hobby" as the rest of us.
The advice to just silence him is good and is working.
But now some people say that I am in violation of the First Amendment.
Instead of quoting the significant words.......Congress shall? make no law........I just let them go read it so that no discussion on that appears.
So silence is best!
Richard

Re: Abusive person, how to get rid of him?

 

I don't think you are "Congress", you aint making no "Law".?
As a group owner, you are protecting your "constituents" and the interests of the group.
Don't ,make yourself ill trying to please everyone. been there, doing that, done that....looking for my t-shirt.
Your group, your rules....it's that simple.?

73
Gary MacGregor
Owner of?
South Texas Hams
South Texas Hamfest
South Texas Hamfest Association
And many more.
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Re: Abusive person, how to get rid of him?

 

Thanks Marv and others!
This abusive person had one agenda that the rest of? us have rejected several years ago.
The discussion then was intense, but the opinion of thoughtful people was sought.
All of the rest (1000 or so) of us have moved on.
But this one person keeps bringing it up. He is polite but the fact that he has signed up with now 5 different usernames tell me a lot.
Trouble is that everyone who supported me (Owned and Moderator) in this situation includes his message, and does not delete it. He won't move on because he is in the same "hobby" as the rest of us.
The advice to just silence him is good and is working.
But now some people say that I am in violation of the First Amendment.
Instead of quoting the significant words.......Congress shall? make no law........I just let them go read it so that no discussion on that appears.
So silence is best!
Richard
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