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Jean,

Is there a way for new applicants to my group to provide some
information about themselves upon applying?

There is the Pending Subscription Member notice, as Chris J and Chris V suggested. See also the help page:
/static/help#membernotices

However, having a web form that the person can fill out when he/she requests membership is an often-requested feature, and one that Mark has wanted to do for a couple years now:


That topic is locked now, but you could bring it up again in Beta, citing the earlier topic, to see if you can revive interest.

Shal


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On 7/20/2018 2:25 PM, toki wrote:

Pop quiz: Name the cities and towns in North America, in which the GDPR
unambiguously applies.

Saint Pierre and Miquelon?

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On 20/07/18 04:42 AM, Jim Higgins wrote:

Amen... and... isn't Groups.io located entirely within the USA?

Whilst the servers, and the Sysadmin are located within the US, the
Domain Name Register ostensibly falls under British law, making the
domain automatically subject to British, and EU law.

does the EU and its GDPR really create any obligation whatsoever on the part of Groups.io?

Depending upon which official version of the GDPR one reads, it applies
either to residents or Europe, citizens of the European Union, or both
groups. On second thoughts, I think all of the official versions have
harmonized on residents of Europe. Some countries wrote their version to
include both residents, and citizens of the country.

Technically, the GDPR only applies to physical residents, but material
on one of the Estonian bureaucracies was ambiguous about the status of
the Digital Residents & the GDPR. The Estonian Privacy Commission
responded to my email, stating that Digital Residents are not explicitly
covered, but if they are residents of the EU, they would be covered
under local laws, whether Estonia, or another country.

Pop quiz: Name the cities and towns in North America, in which the GDPR
unambiguously applies.

jonathon

Hmm, it seems that the Paragraph data type should retain line breaks.? But it only controls whether the text field is entered with a single-line or multi-line text box.
When rendered on a web page, the data is simply wrapped in <td> (table data) tags and <newlines> are ignored.
What's needed to have a paragraph data type column rendered properly with line breaks would be for <newlines> in the data field to be converted to <br> tags when passed to the html output so that it is rendered as multiple lines of text.
[no, you can't enter <br> as they are escaped when the text is generated]
I'll post to the Beta forum.
Thanks
Toby

I would set up a Member Notice on Pending Subscription that asks them for the details you require
Admin > Settings > Member Notices

On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 04:31 PM, Jean Coffinberry wrote:

Is there a way for new applicants to my group to provide some information about themselves upon applying?

Can we take it that applicants require moderator approval before actually becoming members?

If so then have you tried using a Pending Membership message that is sent out automatically when the initial request to join arrives.

As to losing "a bunch of applicants", that seems to be quite common on the group I moderate; the request to join turns up, the Pending Subscription message is sent out immediately and then... nothing. Those who are interested seem to respond within minutes.

A Pending Subscription message can be set up under Settings > Member Notices. It's a good place to ask "tell us why you want to join, along with providing your licence details".

Chris

Me too.!!.? I too have asked for this.? When one does a direct add and includes one or more subgroups, At a minimum there should be an option to skip sending an email for the Main group.? However, while you're at it, there should be a check box next to each subgroup to skip the message for that subgroup as well.? Maybe for each subgroup listed have two check boxes? "Add to Subghroup with msg" and "Add to Subgroup without msg"

Thanks --Dan

Thank you in advance for any help.

Is there a way for new applicants to my group to provide some information about themselves upon applying?

For example, my group is all veterinary licensed and we require license details to join the group.
As it stands - potential members apply and then I have to email them requesting these details. I lose a bunch of applicants - as they simply don't respond.
I'd like to be able to have them submit these details upon applying - as they are obviously engaged at that point.

Any insight, tips etc. is appreciated..

We are going to direct add members to a group, including membership in 2 subgroups. ?As far as I can figure out, that will generate 3 email (main, subgroup1, and subgroup2) all at the same time. ?Is there a way to eliminate the messages from the subgroups so they only get 1 email?

Peace,
Tom

I had a similar issue a couple of weeks ago, I resent the invitation a couple of days later and it went thru.? I chalked it up to Yahoo issues.? Which is why we moved all or our groups over.

On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 12:21 AM, <dw_16@...> wrote:

I am trying to upload a file that is a .pdf but keep getting the message that it cannot be found. Anyone else have this issue?

Are you by chance using the Edge browser? If so, see this recent thread:??/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/23176361#10036

Regards,
Bruce?
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On 7/19/2018 21:42, Jim Higgins wrote:

Amen... and... isn't Groups.io located entirely within the USA?

If so, completely ignoring whether the GDPR really contains the rule in question... does the EU and its GDPR really create any obligation whatsoever on the part of Groups.io?

Jim H

I does if it has users who are overseas.? The company I work for is exclusively in the US, but we've had to do major GDPR steps because of our international clientele.

Best,

Glenn

Amen... and... isn't Groups.io located entirely within the USA?

If so, completely ignoring whether the GDPR really contains the rule in question... does the EU and its GDPR really create any obligation whatsoever on the part of Groups.io?

Jim H


Received from Chris Jones via Groups.Io at 7/19/2018 09:23 AM UTC:

I am trying to upload a file that is a .pdf but keep getting the message that it cannot be found. Anyone else have this issue?

Nina,

Several times I have received blank digests,

Can you describe what you mean by "blank"?

o The email is completely empty
o The Digest header and footer are there but no messages
o Messages are listed, but their content is missing
o Something else

And is your subscription to the Full Featured or Plain version of the digest?

Shal


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On 20/07/18 12:34 AM, Shal Farley wrote:

I did have exactly one instance (so far) where the typo'd address was valid - which resulted in a confused stranger being added to the group.

That is why one needs to double-check direct adds. And promptly remove
incorrectly added addresses.

Fortunately she was polite about asking "Huh? Who are you" and I was able to resolve the issue with an embarrassed apology.

A TLA added me to one of their internal lists, allegedly by accident.
One of their operators mis-typed their email address. (If you believe
that really is the case, will you buy some prime ocean front property
from me? The property is that wonderful state that has more shoreline
than California, Oregon, and Washington combined --- Utah.) After three
or four emails from the list-manager claiming I had been removed from
the list, I wrote a filter to auto-delete their list-mail.

jonathon

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 09:31 PM, Gerald Boutin wrote:

How embarrassing. I knew this used to work.

YOU'RE embarrassed? I'm the guy who told the OP that it couldn't be done!? :-)

All credit to Tom for getting this one right.

Regards,
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On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 09:48 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

Try holding down the shift key while selecting multiple files. Works here using Chrome?67.0.3396.99.

Regards,
Bruce

How embarrassing. I knew this used to work.

Somewhere in the last I don't know how many years, my fingers decided to do the multiple file selection in the wrong order. I just gave in and convinced myself it was some change in Windows. Now that I know this does still work if done correctly, I'll have to retrain my fingers again.
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On 19/07/18 09:23 AM, Chris Jones via Groups.Io wrote:

I am not a lawyer. This is not legal advice

Given that there is quote a lot of it, what "status" would you then ascribe to it?

Since I'm not a lawyer, the only thing it can legally be, is the opinion
of an individual. One might hope that said individual has spent time
studying the law in question, including cases arising from it, and
reflects something approximating the current legal situation.

It seems odd to spend time and effort posting a detailed comment and then nearly saying "don't pay any attention to it".

There is this thing known as "practising law without license".
If one doesn't explicitly proclaim that one is not a lawyer, one can run
afoul of legislation related to the practice of law.

Under the laws of the legal jurisdiction in which I reside,
both "Using Estonian Law as an example..." and the description of the
Philippine Privacy Statute looks like a legal opinion, and hence can be
construed as practising law without a license. Thus the requirement for
the disclaimer.

If you read legal books, or browse legal websites, you'll see a similar,
albeit much longer disclaimer. First Year Law students are always
surprised to see the disclaimer in their textbooks, and even more
surprised upon encountering it in their State Reporter.

At the risk of being accused of repeating myself I am of the view that considering asking Groups.io to provide a technical solution to a problem that your committee has (I think) more or less invented is wholly unreasonable, unless of course you can specify some part of the GDPR (as interpreted in <location redacted>) that will be breached if the capability is not provided.

+1



I am not a lawyer. This is not legal advice.

jonathon

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 08:35 PM, Gerald Boutin wrote:

I tried using a Chrome browser and I can only get the browse UI to select a single file at a time. If I go back and select another one, that just replaces the first selection.?Am I missing something or is there a magic trick to get this to work?

Try holding down the shift key while selecting multiple files. Works here using Chrome?67.0.3396.99.

Regards,
Bruce
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