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Re: Your Groups.io Account Is Bouncing
On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 03:53 PM, Jim Higgins wrote:
I'll contact Mark via the support address and ask him to change the wording of the bouncing notice to reflect that Group OWNERS are exempt from unsubscription... if that's indeed the case.I really don't think that's the case, and anyone who hangs their hat on the premise that the system will somehow intervene to maintain their group ownership is playing with fire.? I have personally been bumped from my own group for "marking as spam," but I clicked the resub link so that wasn't a long-term problem. We have three other owners, and I haven't been foolish enough to try it on purpose after downgrading their accounts. There's supposed to be a feature to keeps the LAST owner from UNSUBSCRIBING from a group without first transferring ownership to someone else. But even that safeguard been inadvertently circumvented at least once when someone who was the sole owner merged his owner account with another one. The bounce status of an account is really independent of what groups it may belong to; and in that context, the warning in the email makes sense. Account validity is predicated on the ability to deliver email there...after all, that's what was done to confirm them in the first place. Although I haven't heard of any GIO accounts actually being deleted, it seems appropriate that accounts remaining in Bounced status for years and years should eventually be subject to that kind of action. Hope this helps, Bruce? -- The system Help is your friend.??/static/help |
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Re: Folder Upload
#folders
On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 02:52 PM, Alex Krupka wrote:
I'd like to upload a folder of about 450 files (with subdirectories). Is there a way to do this. Currently I cant find any way but by uploading each file individually.Ftp, or some other bulk-upload capability, has been an oft-requested feature. Unfortunately, it has not been implemented. Regards, Bruce? -- The system Help is your friend.??/static/help |
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Re: Is Yahoo playing transfer games?
On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 02:51 PM, Ross Hunter wrote:
I need to wait for ?to ask to join the Yahoo Group.?The agent will not join your group on its own.?You, as a YAHOO GROUP owner, MUST send the transfer agent ([email protected]) an invitation.? If you don't know how to send an invitation, see?? If you are not the Yahoo group owner (or a Moderator with the member invite permissions), then you need to find another subscriber who is.? Hope this helps, Bruce -- The system Help is your friend.??/static/help |
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Re: Is Yahoo playing transfer games?
Ross,
?That doesn't ever happen with an Invite; an invite constitutes acceptance. ?All than needs to happen is for the recipient to accept the invitation.
?The only place it would appear in the Yahoo Group is in the Activity log. ?
?It differs primarily in that there is an automation receiving the invitations and making note of that fact on the In Process page for that transfer.? But the automation does not attempt to accept the invitation. ?
?Once the transfer agent accepts the invitation you'll get the standard new member has joined notification, if you've enabled that as one of your moderator notices. ?
?I think the transfer agent will wait indefinitely for you to promote it to Moderator and then give the "go ahead" via the In Process page.? ?Shal? -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: Your Groups.io Account Is Bouncing
Jim, I hear you, but lacking a link to what you believe you read elsewhere, I can only go on what the notice from Groups.io said and it said... ?That's interesting. It is contrary to my understanding of the bounce processing, and is not mentioned in the Help for Bounce Handling. Also, I have members in some of my groups listed as bouncing since the transfer date of the group, last September.? So I wonder if that's one of those "we reserve the right to" things, where it is seldom if ever done. Some in the beta group have asked that Bounced
members? be eventually removed from their groups. I think a better way
to solve the clutter problem would be to display and make sortable a
"bouncing since" date. Right now you have to open each individual member
to determine how long they've been Bounced.
I'll contact Mark via the support address and ask him to change the wording of the bouncing notice to reflect that Group OWNERS are exempt from unsubscription... if that's indeed the case. ?Thanks! Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: Is Yahoo playing transfer games?
On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 01:10 PM, Ross Hunter wrote:
I've set up a new Groups.io group and sent an invitation to [email protected] from the Yahoo Group I want to move.?Accepting the Yahoo group invitation is the longest step in the process (it requires solving a CAPTCHA). In the past, the transfer queue has been as deep as three weeks; by the time Mark returns from his current vacation, it may be even longer than that. To check status of your transfer, see this message in a recent thread:??/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/23672413#10386 Regards, Bruce? -- The system Help is your friend.??/static/help |
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Re: bounced emails
Sandra,
? ?Generally speaking no. The ones with a 4xy code in the Reason column may be retried, and certain 5xy rejections are retried as special cases. Shal ? -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: Is Yahoo playing transfer games?
Ross, I've set up a new Groups.io group and sent an invitation to [email protected] from the Yahoo Group I want to move. That was over 2 hours ago. No invitation has been received to approve at the Yahoo Group. ?You mean that the invitation hasn't been accepted. That's normal - acceptance is a manual process and could take hours to days. Or longer at the moment since the person who normally does that is on vacation through the end of the month. To see if the invitation was received by the transfer agent, look at the In Process page for this transfer. ? Is Yahoo screwing with invitations to?[email protected]?? ?I don't think there's anyone at Yahoo / Oath / Verizon paying enough attention to Y!Groups to notice Groups.io, much less take some action about it. Shal ? -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: Google group tansfers
#transfer
On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 01:49 AM, Alex Krupka wrote:
I just noticed that Google group transfers can't transfer messages (due to a bug in google groups). How long has this been for?The "transfer process," such as it is, for Google groups consists of your member list only. No messages (or content of linked Google Drives) are transferred; and it doesn't even maintain Moderator status. As far as I know, it has always been this way.?I haven't seen many people even inquire about it, perhaps because Google Groups isn't foundering as much as Y!G. You might consider sending a note to [email protected], asking if enhancing this functionality is even an active project. If you do so, please share the response with us so we can pass it along. ? Regards,? Bruce -- The system Help is your friend.??/static/help |
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Re: Bulk deletion
On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 01:49 AM, Richard Cook wrote:
Unfortunately many of the attachments to messages on Yahoo Groups did not transfer to Groups.ioPer the instructions (see second paragraph at /yahootransfer), attachments do not transfer.? is it possible to bulk delete these messages?I know of no convenient way to even identify Y!G messages that have lost their attachments in the transfer, much less delete them. Can you move a message to Files?Not conveniently, You could select a message, print it to PDF and subsequently upload it. You can also download the entire message archive in mbox format using the backup utility and upload that. I hope this helps, but it probably doesn't. Bruce ? -- The system Help is your friend.??/static/help |
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Re: Delivery failure
#bouncedemails
#issue
On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 05:13 AM, Heijo Alting wrote:
554 5.6.1 Body type not supported by Remote Host The best advice I could find for those using Thunderbird on MS Exchange servers is at ? It seems like a problem exists between her email client and email service, unrelated to Groups.io Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
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