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Re: Is Yahoo playing transfer games?

 

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 02:51 PM, Ross Hunter wrote:
I need to wait for ?to ask to join the Yahoo Group.?
The agent will not join your group on its own.?You, as a YAHOO GROUP owner, MUST send the transfer agent ([email protected]) an invitation.?

If you don't know how to send an invitation, see?? If you are not the Yahoo group owner (or a Moderator with the member invite permissions), then you need to find another subscriber who is.?

Hope this helps,
Bruce
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Re: Is Yahoo playing transfer games?

 

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Thanks, Shal.?

My Yahoo Groups have been very slow the last couple of years. It looks like I was a bit foggy on the process. It¡¯s been a long time since I invited anyone to join.

Ross

On Jul 19, 2018, at 3:01 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

Ross,

I mean the request to join the Yahoo group was never received so that I could accept it.?

?That doesn't ever happen with an Invite; an invite constitutes acceptance. ?All than needs to happen is for the recipient to accept the invitation.

As I understood the instructions, I need to send an invitation to join the Yahoo Group to [email protected]. That message has not appeared at the Yahoo Group.?

?The only place it would appear in the Yahoo Group is in the Activity log.
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Now that I read the process again, I think I understand that it¡¯s a bit different from inviting an individual to join a Yahoo Group.

?It differs primarily in that there is an automation receiving the invitations and making note of that fact on the In Process page for that transfer.? But the automation does not attempt to accept the invitation.
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I need to wait for ?to ask to join the Yahoo Group.?

?Once the transfer agent accepts the invitation you'll get the standard new member has joined notification, if you've enabled that as one of your moderator notices.
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I¡¯ll wait, but I¡¯m going to be away the first two weeks of August. Will I need to start over mid-August? Or will ?wait days to be accepted at Yahoo?

?I think the transfer agent will wait indefinitely for you to promote it to Moderator and then give the "go ahead" via the In Process page.?

?Shal?


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Re: Is Yahoo playing transfer games?

 

Ross,

I mean the request to join the Yahoo group was never received so that I could accept it.?

?That doesn't ever happen with an Invite; an invite constitutes acceptance. ?All than needs to happen is for the recipient to accept the invitation.

As I understood the instructions, I need to send an invitation to join the Yahoo Group to [email protected]. That message has not appeared at the Yahoo Group.?

?The only place it would appear in the Yahoo Group is in the Activity log.
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Now that I read the process again, I think I understand that it¡¯s a bit different from inviting an individual to join a Yahoo Group.

?It differs primarily in that there is an automation receiving the invitations and making note of that fact on the In Process page for that transfer.? But the automation does not attempt to accept the invitation.
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I need to wait for ?to ask to join the Yahoo Group.?

?Once the transfer agent accepts the invitation you'll get the standard new member has joined notification, if you've enabled that as one of your moderator notices.
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I¡¯ll wait, but I¡¯m going to be away the first two weeks of August. Will I need to start over mid-August? Or will ?wait days to be accepted at Yahoo?

?I think the transfer agent will wait indefinitely for you to promote it to Moderator and then give the "go ahead" via the In Process page.?

?Shal?


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Re: Your Groups.io Account Is Bouncing

 

Jim,

I hear you, but lacking a link to what you believe you read elsewhere, I can only go on what the notice from Groups.io said and it said...

"You must take action to restore your account, or we will unsubscribe you from all of the groups you are a member of."

?That's interesting. It is contrary to my understanding of the bounce processing, and is not mentioned in the Help for Bounce Handling. Also, I have members in some of my groups listed as bouncing since the transfer date of the group, last September.?

So I wonder if that's one of those "we reserve the right to" things, where it is seldom if ever done.

Some in the beta group have asked that Bounced members? be eventually removed from their groups. I think a better way to solve the clutter problem would be to display and make sortable a "bouncing since" date. Right now you have to open each individual member to determine how long they've been Bounced.

I'll contact Mark via the support address and ask him to change the wording of the bouncing notice to reflect that Group OWNERS are exempt from unsubscription... if that's indeed the case.

And I'll get back to the group on his response.

?Thanks!

Shal

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Folder Upload #folders

 

I'd like to upload a folder of about 450 files (with subdirectories). Is there a way to do this. Currently I cant find any way but by uploading each file individually.

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Re: Is Yahoo playing transfer games?

 

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I mean the request to join the Yahoo group was never received so that I could accept it.?

As I understood the instructions, I need to send an invitation to join the Yahoo Group to [email protected]. That message has not appeared at the Yahoo Group.?

Now that I read the process again, I think I understand that it¡¯s a bit different from inviting an individual to join a Yahoo Group. I need to wait for ?to ask to join the Yahoo Group.?

I¡¯ll wait, but I¡¯m going to be away the first two weeks of August. Will I need to start over mid-August? Or will ?wait days to be accepted at Yahoo?

Ross

On Jul 19, 2018, at 2:10 PM, Shal Farley <shals2nd@...> wrote:

Ross,

I've set up a new group and sent an invitation to [email protected] from the Yahoo Group I want to move. That was over 2 hours ago. No invitation has been received to approve at the Yahoo Group.

?You mean that the invitation hasn't been accepted. That's normal - acceptance is a manual process and could take hours to days. Or longer at the moment since the person who normally does that is on vacation through the end of the month.

To see if the invitation was received by the transfer agent, look at the In Process page for this transfer.
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Is Yahoo screwing with invitations to?[email protected]??

?I don't think there's anyone at Yahoo / Oath / Verizon paying enough attention to Y!Groups to notice , much less take some action about it.

Shal
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Re: Is Yahoo playing transfer games?

 

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 01:10 PM, Ross Hunter wrote:
I've set up a new Groups.io group and sent an invitation to [email protected] from the Yahoo Group I want to move.?
Accepting the Yahoo group invitation is the longest step in the process (it requires solving a CAPTCHA). In the past, the transfer queue has been as deep as three weeks; by the time Mark returns from his current vacation, it may be even longer than that.

To check status of your transfer, see this message in a recent thread:??/g/GroupManagersForum/topic/23672413#10386

Regards,
Bruce?
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Re: bounced emails

 

Sandra,

the list that says recent bounces and has messages since July 14 will those get delivered?
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?Generally speaking no.

The ones with a 4xy code in the Reason column may be retried, and certain 5xy rejections are retried as special cases.

Shal
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Re: Is Yahoo playing transfer games?

 

Ross,

I've set up a new Groups.io group and sent an invitation to [email protected] from the Yahoo Group I want to move. That was over 2 hours ago. No invitation has been received to approve at the Yahoo Group.

?You mean that the invitation hasn't been accepted. That's normal - acceptance is a manual process and could take hours to days. Or longer at the moment since the person who normally does that is on vacation through the end of the month.

To see if the invitation was received by the transfer agent, look at the In Process page for this transfer.
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Is Yahoo screwing with invitations to?[email protected]??

?I don't think there's anyone at Yahoo / Oath / Verizon paying enough attention to Y!Groups to notice Groups.io, much less take some action about it.

Shal
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Line feed in database column? #database

Dan Hartford
 

Hi,

In a database column (cello) I can't figure out what data type to select such that when someone enters text and uses the "enter" key to insert? Line Feed (for example making a vertical list of items for sale) how to have those linefeed (CR) show up to viewers of the database rather than the entire cell being one long line?

Thanks -- Dan
Is Yahoo playing transfer games?

 

I've set up a new Groups.io group and sent an invitation to [email protected] from the Yahoo Group I want to move. That was over 2 hours ago. No invitation has been received to approve at the Yahoo Group.

I sent a new invitation to a non groups.io address and it went through immediately. Is Yahoo screwing with invitations to?[email protected]??

Ross Hunter
Re: Google group tansfers #transfer

 

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 01:49 AM, Alex Krupka wrote:
I just noticed that Google group transfers can't transfer messages (due to a bug in google groups). How long has this been for?
The "transfer process," such as it is, for Google groups consists of your member list only. No messages (or content of linked Google Drives) are transferred; and it doesn't even maintain Moderator status.

As far as I know, it has always been this way.?I haven't seen many people even inquire about it, perhaps because Google Groups isn't foundering as much as Y!G.

You might consider sending a note to [email protected], asking if enhancing this functionality is even an active project. If you do so, please share the response with us so we can pass it along.
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Re: Google group tansfers #transfer

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None of my?5 groups?had any of their messages transferred and I wondered why.
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So I replied back to the support email address that was given. I was told by Mark that Incredimail groups or groups that use stationary, the messages cannot be transferred because nothing will show up.
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I wrote back to him and told him that the 5 groups I had moved to IO, NONE were Incredimail groups and Incredimail wasn't allowed to be used in any of them.
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Then I asked can I try again to have the messages transferred?
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I haven't heard back from? him and it has been over a week. I know he is on vacation now, so maybe when he gets back I will get an answer.
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Ilene
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Date: 7/19/2018 12:49:17 AM
Subject: [GMF] Google group tansfers #transfer
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Hi,

I just noticed that Google group transfers can't transfer messages (due to a bug in google groups). How long has this been for? Also is there any idea how long this will be for?

Thank you
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Re: Bulk deletion

 

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 01:49 AM, Richard Cook wrote:
Unfortunately many of the attachments to messages on Yahoo Groups did not transfer to Groups.io
Per the instructions (see second paragraph at /yahootransfer), attachments do not transfer.?

is it possible to bulk delete these messages?
I know of no convenient way to even identify Y!G messages that have lost their attachments in the transfer, much less delete them.

Can you move a message to Files?
Not conveniently, You could select a message, print it to PDF and subsequently upload it. You can also download the entire message archive in mbox format using the backup utility and upload that.

I hope this helps, but it probably doesn't.

Bruce
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Re: Member notices

 

Besides the "Welcome" notice, Group Guidelines can also be set up to be sent to all new members. Depending on the content of your 3 files, you may be able to use Group Guidelines and Welcome to incorporate all (or most) of that information. I like the Group Guidelines option because it means that basic information remains easily available for someone who deleted or "lost" the first email!

Barb
Re: Delivery failure #bouncedemails #issue

Heijo Alting
 

Thanks for your help, Duane.

Apparently, it can be solved by setting the 'mail.strictly_mime' property to 'true' (in Thunderbird: Tools > Options > Advanced > General > Advanced Configuration > Config Editor).

Heijo
Re: Delivery failure #bouncedemails #issue

 

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 05:13 AM, Heijo Alting wrote:
554 5.6.1 Body type not supported by Remote Host

The best advice I could find for those using Thunderbird on MS Exchange servers is at ? It seems like a problem exists between her email client and email service, unrelated to Groups.io

Duane
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Delivery failure #bouncedemails #issue

Heijo Alting
 

Dear all,

The messages of one of the members of our new group at io fail to deliver. She's using Mozilla Thunderbird and gets delivery failure notices on every attempt. She can login to the group with her email and password though. What can be the cause? How can she solve it?

The failure notice she received:

Reporting-MTA: dns;cpsmtpb-ews03.<redacted>.com
Received-From-MTA: dns;cpsps-ews28.<redacted>.com
Arrival-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 22:02:33 +0200
Final-Recipient: rfc822;<redacted>@groups.io
Action: failed
Status: 5.6.1
Diagnostic-Code: smtp;554 5.6.1 Body type not supported by Remote Host
From: xxxxxx <<redacted>>
To: <redacted> <<redacted>@groups.io>
Message-ID: <30cac636-c04a-fbc5-c159-79891877f25d@<redacted>>
Subject: test (niet openen)

[identifying information redacted by moderator]
Re: Feature request GDPR compliance #membership

 

On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 08:50 PM, toki wrote:
I am not a lawyer. This is not legal advice
Given that there is quote a lot of it, what "status" would you then ascribe to it? It seems odd to spend time and effort posting a detailed comment and then nearly saying "don't pay any attention to it".

To add to my previous comment, if my original digging found the right target then the organisation to which the OP referred (now no longer traceable from scratch; I suspect that the original message was later edited to remove a revealing detail) also has a publicly accessible Facebook page. I therefore pose similar questions to that I asked previously; have all the people whose photographs appear on that Facebook page provided written consent for their likenesses to be used, and how often are they required to renew that permission? Have all those whose names appear as having "liked" something also given their permission for their names to be revealed? Have you asked Facebook to provide a facility similar to that you are considering requesting from Groups.io?

At the risk of being accused of repeating myself I am of the view that considering asking Groups.io to provide a technical solution to a problem that your committee has (I think) more or less invented is wholly unreasonable, unless of course you can specify some part of the GDPR (as interpreted in <location redacted>) that will be breached if the capability is not provided.

Chris
Google group tansfers #transfer

 

Hi,

I just noticed that Google group transfers can't transfer messages (due to a bug in google groups). How long has this been for? Also is there any idea how long this will be for?

Thank you
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