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Editing the subject of a message
Can that be done?? Today was the first occasion I wished to fix a mistake I made, which I didn't catch before I approved it, in the subject of a message. I can't do it with Yahoo. I can do it with Google. I've edited the text of Groups.io messages before, but it looked to me today like I can't edit the subject. Is that right? ~~ Stephanie |
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Re: Should bouncing messages result in deletion of member from group?
J,
?Thanks. I already have a test group that I've been using; I just don't Sure: " - I created a new page to unconfirm your account, if you wish. It's at ? /unconfirm and it's not linked to anywhere on the site." Mark /g/beta/message/7190 If you don't need to actually confirm the address it might be easier to just log out of Groups.io (or open a browser without an active login) and enter a nonsense email address (use @ example.com or otherwise be certain that it couldn't accidently belong to someone). I think that is what I did to create at least one of the NC members in my test group (I used my company's domain, where I knew the fake email address did not exist). That should work, unless Mark has since then implemented countermeasures against bounced confirmation emails. Shal |
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Re: Should bouncing messages result in deletion of member from group?
J,
I'm sure I've never seen an NC member in my group's members list, butIf you'd like to examine these first-hand without messing around in a "real" group you're welcome to join my test group. I don't see a connection to the group's membership being restricted or not. My test group is currently not Restricted, but it might have been earlier. You could switch it back and forth to see if you can create new NC entries under each condition. Shal |
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Re: Should bouncing messages result in deletion of member from group?
J,
Never said or implied it was a bug or high on the priorities.Sorry, I didn't mean my comment to be contentious. Just an opinion and an observation, in case you were suggesting that someone (me) with bouncing members should report it to Mark. I could have worded that better. Are you sure about that?Yup. My test group has only 26 in the Members list, including two NC, plus one in the Bouncing list -- the group's home page says "27 Members". A manual count of the Members list says that list total is right (as expected). Shal |
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Following in mobile interface
I see that I can "follow" in my email in my iPhone ?but sometimes I want to see where a thread is going before I decide to follow a topic ?but on the mobile interface I don't seem to be able to follow from the group site ?? I had to go back to my email to follow the thread ? Did I just miss this? Frances |
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Re: Should bouncing messages result in deletion of member from group?
J,
I don't have any bouncing members now so I can't check it out forAs it happens I do, in both my test and PTA groups. So the below are some observations based on those groups. So, are bouncing members also removed from the member count?They are not removed from the Home page count (it reports the total of bouncing and non-bouncing). So too the count in the list of Public Groups and the members' profile list. They are (of course) removed from the counter at the top right of the Members list itself. If they're not removed from the member count, that's wrong becauseAs I recall, whether or not to include bouncing members in the total (home page and other) membership count has been a contended question over the years in Yahoo! Groups. Some have felt that including the deadwood (bouncing members) in the group's home page and directory listing misrepresented the group's actual reach, as compared to other groups. Said another way, it penalized groups whose management actively manage and trim their bouncing list versus groups whose management lets them accumulate. In this regard another question arises with respect to members with "NC" status (I have some of them too). Like "Bounced" members they do not receive group messages, but there is not a separate list for them, they are shown on the main Members list. They also are included in the home page (and directory) total membership. Bouncing members are now viewed separately and not part of the overallAn argument could be made that they should be excluded from the main list because they are not receiving group messages, and that there should be somewhere a way to see that specific information (a count of members eligible to receive group messages - "in good standing", so to speak). I need to go research the actual distinction between "Bouncing" (blue B) and "Bounced" (red B), my memory of the exact details has faded. I know that Bounced members are no longer sent messages, whereas the Bouncing members are still provisional in some sense. I think this should be reported to Mark.Not very high on my list of things that need attention. I don't think I see anything here that I would classify as a bug, but there are inconsistencies and maybe those merit suggestions on beta. Shal |
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Re: Should bouncing messages result in deletion of member from group?
I just ran into this about a week ago. The member no longer shows on the Member page, but they're not removed from the group. They now only show up on the Bouncing page. Having them unbounce themselves will return them to the Members page. You may need to send a Bounce probe. This is different than it used to be where they were still on the Member page, but had a B next to their email address. I find it a bit confusing, but not really a problem since I now understand how it works.
Duane |
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Should bouncing messages result in deletion of member from group?
I am posing this question here to make sure I understand how this is supposed to work. ?We recently had an instance in which a member was (temporarily) in bounce status. ?This resulted in her name being removed from the member list by Groups.io (there was no action taken on our part to remove her). ?Since this is the first time I have noticed this happening, could someone please clarify if this is the way it is supposed to work. ?If it isn't then I'll report this as a bug. Jean |
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Re: Messages with the same Topic
Janice,
This is a test for Shal.And it did thread. Interestingly, I did find another reply of yours which did not thread, and in that message there was both an In-Reply-To and a References field, but the value in those fields had nothing to do with the Message-ID of the message you replied to. I was kind of expecting that behavior to occur again. Providing wrong field content is worse than not providing the field at all. I don't know if there is anything other than the passage of time (updates?) to account for the difference in Outlook's behavior. If you want to poke at this some more we should move to shalstest@ so as not to bore the other members of GMF with test messages. Shal |
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Re: Posting Limits
Shar,
Does IO have posting limits to try to weed out spammers and porn posts?It does have posting limits, but the purpose is to suppress auto-responders. /g/beta/message/8326 Yahoo's limit was supposedly 50 posts (per member) per hour. I was toldThe limit is 40 messages within 30 minutes. I'm not certain if it is per-group or just per-sender (including all groups). It's always nice to know whatthe hourly/daily limits are to avoid theUnlike Yahoo Group's "auto-responder" lockout (that must be unlocked by Customer Care), I think the only consequence in Groups.io is an error bounce of your messages. Shal |
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