¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

Date

Re: How to find all current owners of a group

 

On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 09:57 PM, Steve Johnson wrote:
Is there a way I can find all configured owners without scrolling through the entire group?
From the left hand side of the web UI click on Members. Then click on the "blue tab" above the list (I haven't named it because the default name can be one of two; Members or Pending) and select Moderators.

Voila!

Chris


How to stop address harvesting

 

Hi,

Is there a way to prevent users from simply signing on to a group and harvest personal e-mail addresses?

Ken S

Old age is like a plane flying through a storm. Once you are onboard there's nothing you can do.
Golda Meir


How to find all current owners of a group

Steve Johnson
 

I am the moderator of a group and I thought a different account was also an owner but it is not.

Is there a way I can find all configured owners without scrolling through the entire group?

Thanks


Re: Send-only subgroup?

 

On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 04:18 PM, Frank Greco wrote:
I don't see a setting that allows only owners/mods to have access.?
Make sure to make the subgroup message archive private, too (Privacy > Visibility > "...messages viewable to subgroup members only").

Regards,
Bruce

Check out the groups.io Help Center?and?groups.io Owners Manual


Re: Send-only subgroup?

 

On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 03:18 PM, Frank Greco wrote:
I don't see a setting that allows only owners/mods to have access.
Set the subgroup to Restricted (in the Spam Control panel) and don't let anyone join (nor add anyone from the main group.)? Main group owners and moderators with proper permissions can see the subgroup without joining - implied membership.
?
--
The official Groups.io user documentation is in the Groups.io Help Center.
GMF's Unofficial Help Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki


Re: Need to create a group to collect public opinion

 

+1? ?Our group needs a "suggestion box" subgroup where it's a send-only (sub)group.? I can see how to set "allow posts by non-members" but how do I only allow owner/mods to see the post?

Frank

On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 7:43 AM Christos G. Psarras <christos@...> wrote:
On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 04:25 AM, Stewart Dean wrote:
So my question: can private group allow postings by non-members?
Yes; you can have a group listed in the directory but still have its archives private (only members can see them, not the public), and allow non-members to post; it's a kind of a "honey-pot" setup, you make your address known so people can find you, anyone can send you anything, but only you can see it after being received. (plus obviously the non-member who sent it through the copy in their Sent Items folder).

Cheers,
Christos

[Mod Note: non-member posts will always go into Pending Messages]



--

Frank Greco
?(t) ? (g) +1 732-639-0990


Re: How do I allow direct subscription to a subgroup without requiring membership in parent group? #subgroups #subscription

 

On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 03:12 PM, Marisa St John wrote:
why do subgroups require membership to main group first
As someone said a few days ago, if they didn't have to be in the main group, they wouldn't be joining a subgroup, but another group.

Duane
--
The official Groups.io user documentation is in the Groups.io Help Center.
GMF's Unofficial Help Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki


Re: Send-only subgroup?

 

Thanks Duane.

I can set "Allow non-members to post", but I don't see a setting that allows only owners/mods to have access.? Any advice?

Frank

On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 5:17 PM Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:
On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 02:47 PM, Frank Greco wrote:
Is it possible to configure a subgroup to be send-only?? We need a subgroup that receives information via email from members and non-members (like a suggestion box).
You can set up a subgroup to accept non-member mails and also set it so that only owner/mods have access.? Even main group members would have to send as non-members in that case, but it should do what you're asking for.

Duane
--
The official Groups.io user documentation is in the Groups.io Help Center.
GMF's Unofficial Help Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki



--

Frank Greco
?(t) ? (g) +1 732-639-0990


Re: How do I allow direct subscription to a subgroup without requiring membership in parent group? #subgroups #subscription

 

In addition, when the Administrator receives a subscription request, it only mentions the main group and there is no way for the adminstrator to know what subgroup to add the person to.


Re: How do I allow direct subscription to a subgroup without requiring membership in parent group? #subgroups #subscription

 

Another question, why do subgroups require membership to main group first, but if you go to a subgroup's Groups.io page and click Join Group, that person is added automatically to both the main and subgroup? IMNSHO, both Subgroup subscription and join should work the same way.


Re: Need to create a group to collect public opinion

 

On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 03:57 PM, Bill Mosca wrote:
...but might a survey site like surveymonkey be easier to manage?
IMHO, yes. I am of the view that groups.io is not really suited for your purpose. (Others may not agree!)

Even if Polls were available to new free groups, a Poll (in Groups.io terms) consists of a single question and a number of predetermined reply options. A second question requires a second poll and so on. Furthermore although non - members could read a Poll but would not be able to answer it.

You could set up a group so that a Moderator could post questions viewable publicly but such that replies only went to Moderators and would not be viewable by anyone else. However, you would then be faced with the (monumental?) task of trying to convert those written replies into tickbox asnwers yourselves, and that would not necessarily be all that easy or even be a proper reflection of the respondents' opinions.

Chris


Re: Need to create a group to collect public opinion

 

Just my opinion, but might a survey site like suveymonkey be easier to manage?


[Update] Active member disappeared from records and was placed as a Pending Member

 

First, thank you all for trying to help. I truly do appreciate you all. You make life much easier for the rest of us!!

After continuing to search for details on this, I found in the main Activity History where she had changed her email address within the group. Still nothing on her being removed from the group.

However, another oddity, the new email address she created four days ago receives no mail from the group. All of her settings are correct and nothing is being delivered to her spam folder. So, something strange has definitely happened. I guess it's just "gremlins in the system."

I've deleted the extra email address, and I'm considering this issue dealt with. Thank you for your time!


-----Original Message-----
From: Linda King via groups.io <StarsTeacher@...>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Jan 10, 2021 10:07 am
Subject: [GMF] Active member disappeared from records and was placed as a Pending Member

??? I received an email from a member stating that their mail wouldn't go through to the group. I checked through my mail from that group and saw a Subscription Approval Needed notification for that person. I thought that odd since that person has been active in our group since December 26th. I went to the GIO site and found the same thing. There is no record in my email, nor on the site, that she left the group or was removed from the group...only the Subscription Approval Needed notification in my email, her name listed in the Members Pending Approval section, and her attempts to send mail to the group in the Activity History section. It's as if she didn't exist until today.

??? After further investigation, I found out that she was attempting to change her email address. I couldn't get any more information, such as how she attempted to do it, etc. But, what I don't understand is how she got removed with no record whatsoever of her actions. She's still using the same email address, so there should be some sort of a record. At the very least, there should have been an email notification. But, there's nothing.

??? This has never happened to me before. What can I do to make sure it never happens again?


Thanks For Your Time,
Linda


Re: Possible Bug

 

On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 08:22 AM, Leeni wrote:
Now if I write to Beta and make a suggestion for a possible bug, would it be listened to if I don't have a premium?group.
Yes, Mark reads all the messages on beta and takes appropriate action.

Duane
--
The official Groups.io user documentation is in the Groups.io Help Center.
GMF's Unofficial Help Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki


Re: Possible Bug

Leeni
 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

I was given a solution which is easy to implement.
That is to delete the image not only?at the bottom where I?had done it but also in the top portion of the email itself. So if I delete it in 2 places, it will not show up in the email. I am going to try that.
?
Now if I write to Beta and make a suggestion for a possible bug, would it be listened to if I don't have a premium?group.?
?
Thanks, Leeni?
?
?
?
?

-------Original Message-------
?
Date: 1/11/2021 12:50:55 AM
Subject: Re: [GMF] Possible Bug
?
Leeni,
?
? > So, I looked below for the specific graphic and checked to delete the
? > graphic in question.
?
Checking the box deleted only the image file containing the image, not
the text in the body of the message which referenced it.
?
? > Then I hit save and opened it up again to make sure that the violated
? > graphic was gone and it was.
?
If there's a bug here it may be this: that the on-site view doesn't show
a broken image icon at the spot where the image file was referenced. If
it did you'd have known you needed to take the second step of deleting
the reference.
?
The more complicated fix (for Mark) would be to find and eliminate the
references when images are deleted from a pending message.
?
? > Now in the email, this is what we see where the graphic used to be.
?
Standard missing/broken image icon plus the name of the image file.
That's what most HTML rendering applications would show when there's a
reference to a file that can't be found or read.
?
? > I am not sure if this is a bug or not.
?
Tough call. I'd say it isn't a bug, exactly, but a lack of a smooth user
interface.
?
As a #suggestion in beta I'd say the suggestion would be: When editing a
Pending message, delete any HTML <img> tags referencing a file when the
checkbox is used to delete that file.
?
Shal
?
?
--
Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list
?
?
?
?


Re: Possible Bug

Leeni
 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

Thanks for that information.
That is what I didn't do. I will do that in the future.
I need to remember to remove the image from both places.
I am sure I will be able to test that out soon LOL
Leeni?
?
?
?
?

-------Original Message-------
?
Date: 01/11/21 06:42:11
Subject: Re: [GMF] Possible Bug
?
Leeni,
?
I did some testing on editing messages with attachments (in the body or
at the end of the message) some time ago for a GMF image attachment
thread so this is relatively fresh and there is definitely a bug there.
?
Unless it gets fixed, when you edit a message which has inline embedded
images in the body, check the graphic you want to delete in the
"attachments"as you already do now, but before clicking on Save Message,
scroll through the message textbox above and find that same image that's
displayed up there, select it, and Del it. If you don't delete the image
in both places, and only do one in either direction*, you'll experience
things like yours.
?
Cheers,
Christos
?
* It's funkier the other direction, i.e. delete the textbox inline image
but leave the attachment and save; the image doesn't show anymore in
message display but if the message is re-edited the "deleted" image
reappears in the "attachments" section ... you can funky it even more by
deleting different images in the body vs the "attachments" section, and
you can end up in a message which displays different images on the
message body textbox vs the "attachments" section when edited again ...
I'll have to look back at notes to get the exact details and I'll post
another message in order to keep this one fixing-your-problem only, but
in a nutshell, the same underlying code is used for handling editing of
both messages with traditional body-end attachments and inline
message-body images, and it "shoehorns" message-body images in being
handled the same as message-end images in both code and db storage and
things are not staying synchronized between the "attachments" and
message body section in the message editing screen.
?
?
?
?
?
?


Re: Likes

 

On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 10:05 PM, Hank Montgomery wrote:


Better still,
if you LIKE what someone says, why not reply and tell them so!
Because that would defeat the purpose. The whole point of introducing the thumbs-up button is that it reduces the need for additional messages.


IMHO - "Likes" are for social media contests to see who can get the most "Likes".?
On groups.io, you thumb up posts, not users. It's not a contest (unless you make it one)


groetjes/?is, Ronaldo


Re: Need to create a group to collect public opinion

 

On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 04:25 AM, Stewart Dean wrote:
So my question: can private group allow postings by non-members?
Yes; you can have a group listed in the directory but still have its archives private (only members can see them, not the public), and allow non-members to post; it's a kind of a "honey-pot" setup, you make your address known so people can find you, anyone can send you anything, but only you can see it after being received. (plus obviously the non-member who sent it through the copy in their Sent Items folder).

Cheers,
Christos

[Mod Note: non-member posts will always go into Pending Messages]


Re: Possible Bug

 

Leeni,

I did some testing on editing messages with attachments (in the body or at the end of the message) some time ago for a GMF image attachment thread so this is relatively fresh and there is definitely a bug there.

Unless it gets fixed, when you edit a message which has inline embedded images in the body, check the graphic you want to delete in the "attachments"as you already do now, but before clicking on Save Message, scroll through the message textbox above and find that same image that's displayed up there, select it, and Del it. If you don't delete the image in both places, and only do one in either direction*, you'll experience things like yours.

Cheers,
Christos

* It's funkier the other direction, i.e. delete the textbox inline image but leave the attachment and save; the image doesn't show anymore in message display but if the message is re-edited the "deleted" image reappears in the "attachments" section ... you can funky it even more by deleting different images in the body vs the "attachments" section, and you can end up in a message which displays different images on the message body textbox vs the "attachments" section when edited again ... I'll have to look back at notes to get the exact details and I'll post another message in order to keep this one fixing-your-problem only, but in a nutshell, the same underlying code is used for handling editing of both messages with traditional body-end attachments and inline message-body images, and it "shoehorns" message-body images in being handled the same as message-end images in both code and db storage and things are not staying synchronized between the "attachments" and message body section in the message editing screen.


Need to create a group to collect public opinion

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

NY State has had an executive order that all communities with a police force establish a committee of its citizens to review and re-imagine its policing.? I am on the committee for the Town of Ulster in the Kingston, NY area.
We have made our review and are about to present it to the public and solicit public opinion.? I have run a couple of groups since Yahoo Groups folded and naturally thought of groups.io...

But, having begun to create a groups.io group, I realized we don't really want a discussion group (which could turn into a combative free for all on the charged issue of policing), rather we want a "bucket" to collect opinion, a private group:
  • listed in the directory
  • that would allow non-members to post (I realize that the posts would necessarily be moderated)
  • whose postings would be then be visible to the people on the committee...who would be its members
  • but the postings would not be visible to the public

Yes, this is a poll...but:

  • of the simplest kind (what do you think/feel)
  • I want this to be a free group, which no longer supports polls

The reason I'm thinking of making this a private group is that if the group and its postings were to be seen (as well as being posted to) publicly it could turn into a battleground and a headache to moderate and present in a civil productive fashion.

So my question: can private group allow postings by non-members?

-- 
// Stewart Dean == Kingston, NY