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Dan,

Our owner has been AOL since 2005.? Some believe he did die.? We have no ability to prove otherwise.

Also, our only standing moderator on YG has little more than the average user for permissions.? He can not even replace himself as a moderator and make a new person that role.

Short of the story, We opted for the PGOffline software.? Exported all the messages into a pipe character format CSV file.? Cleaned out the SPMA, yahoo & AOL ads and all the porn messages for the message database.
Lastly, we saved the archive in Excel's extended spread sheet format .xlsx, OpenOffice format? ods, HTML format and the raw CSV format because users are global and the world is not all into MicroSoft products.
We find the spreadsheet format works BEST for searching for works, subject line and members.? Also one can filter their searches in the columns too.? This is way better than migrating over the messages and poking around.

We have 4 groups coming across.? Mainly the CUT tractors that folks use on homesteads, farms and the like.? The food on your plate has a good chance of being from one of our members!? Especially if it's organic.? We have to save our history because without it, prices in farm Ag can rise sharply due to inability to repair the tractors.? We have now engaged a 5th group of CUT tractors off of YG as well by another brand of CUT tractor to make the hop here too.? With the closing of YG as we know it today, it has put a good deal of stress on all kinds of folks globally.? The John Deere CUT group moved ahead of us.? We are the 2nd largest group to follow and the 4th largest group just was alerted about the YG closing last night.? Shame on Yahoo not send folks a notice.? That banner above the groups can only be seen If you login to see it!

It is a mad dash to get all of this done prior to the 29th of this month.? There is lots of uncertainty how thing will work from December 1st to midnight on Friday the 13th of December when the YG goes dark.?

Bret

On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 08:45 AM, Duane wrote:

On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 09:31 AM, J Forster wrote:

In each case, the orphan photos on Yahoo were attributed to the co-owner, not me, after the transfer.

I suspect that it's the last one to join the group.? Take a look at Admin > Members, Moderators.? The names listed there default to the reverse order that they joined the group, so the most recent is at the top.? Most groups haven't run into this because they only had one owner when the transfer was done.

Duane

J & Duane,
Duane's suspicion sounds likely.? I experienced the same results as J reports, after my transfer 2 yrs ago, with orphan photos and files being attributed to my co-owner whom I had added and promoted before the transfer from Yahoo was initiated.? I had thought that unusual as well, assuming they would be attributed to me as the original G.io owner and "transferrer".? It didn't create a problem, as I could correct the attributions if I wanted to, but I did question the logic. :)

Coincidentally, these orphaned items included many originally owned by me (albeit under a different email address I was using in the Yahoo Group, and which was not subscribed to the new G.io.)? This observation prompted me to change by Yahoo Group email address to the same one I use on Groups.io before initiating the recent transfer of another group to G.io.? With the second transfer, my photos and files retained the correct attribution to me.? Lesson learned!

Dotty Bell

Ok, 1st part clear. 2nd part... not sure.

By normal email channel, do you mean using the [email protected] method of subscribing?

And then the Premium extra bit to "confirm an email/account that's new to GIO"... if someone creates a new GIO account, then we could confirm someone trying to subscribe with that rather than by email? I've not seen this in action so I can't quite picture it ;-) I'm imagining the new GIO account person would then search the list of GIO groups, select my group, and ask to be a member on their GIO home page. So, without being a Premium account we couldn't accept such requests?

Their banner message states "New content can no longer be uploaded after October 28, 2019."

But the Conversations view on the web continues to update. This is a surprising and pleasing finding. The timestamps on the six most-recent messages are:
13 hours ago
3 days ago
4 days ago
4 days ago
4 days ago
5 days ago

It's taking a bit of time to migrate over as I work through the issues of dealing with attachments because of the short-sighted view of Groups.io on handling them. Fortunately, the Yahoo group continues to serve us.

On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 11:55 AM, Herb Gellis wrote:

"Edit emails and confirm members" starts only at the Premium level.

That just means that a group has to be Premium before a moderator/owner can change someone's email address for them.? The second part means that you can confirm an email/account that's new to GIO instead of having the member use the normal email channel.? All basic functions are included in a Basic group.

Duane
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On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 05:39 PM, Rob Robinson wrote:

Anyone have any idea on what is going on?

Another wild guess... do you have another moderator who might have gone and changed a setting? Have you gone back into your settings to see if everything is still how you intended it to be?

If a setting has changed have a look in Admin > Activity to find out who might have changed it and when.

Chris

I've looked around and couldn't find the answer to this. The groups.io feature-list by plan level indicates that "Edit emails and confirm members" starts only at the Premium level. Does this mean that Basic plans are open to the public, and that only Premium levels can moderate whether a member can subscribe? I hope this isn't so and is just a wording issue. Since we had to join at the Premium level to do the YG transfer I can't really tell if we would lose this ability if we eventually switched to Basic.

-Herb Gellis

On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 11:39 AM, Rob Robinson wrote:

Within the last several days, something has changed (not on my part), where I am now getting via email
requests for approving messages by members who are already subscribers.

One wild guess - They're replying to a message that has a hashtag with the Moderated box checked.

Duane
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Set up and transferred group from Yahoo threeweeks ago. No problem and everything running smoothly!
Since it is a restricted group (approval needed to join), I allow postings without moderation.
Within the last several days, something has changed (not on my part), where I am now getting via email
requests for approving messages by members who are already subscribers.
Anyone have any idea on what is going on? Am I missing something?

Rob Robinson

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On Nov 18, 2019, at 11:43 AM, Dan Tappan <dan.tappan@...> wrote:

But as I said : refusing to reply to someone who wants to give you money does not inspire confidence. Not a very good business decision. Seems unprofessional to not even respond with a boilerplate FAQ.

Although it is very scary to be in your situation, I think we have to be understanding right now. Mark is overwhelmed with the total close down of YahooGroups (even though they insist it’s not a shutdown). This dumps millions(?) of people into the laps of others?

Groups.io is still in start up phase—still growing and still experimenting. It would be prudent for him to go slow on hiring to cover Yahoo’s screw ups. Maybe tomorrow Yahoo will take it all back and he would have unworkable staff commitments. He is up to his ears in business.

Those of us who “escaped” when Yahoo first started falling apart can assure you that Groups.io is well run, supportive, and stable. It just isn’t capable of fixing the world when it wants fixed.

Sharon
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I think everyone missed the OP's question. How does he retrieve the money in his Stripe account? I'm asking the same thing.

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On 18 Nov 2019 17:35, Dakotta Alex wrote:

So after invite groups.io <> to my groups / should I put a request they all be moved to subgroups or will it be done automatically to a main group?

No, it really doesn't work that way. You need to read and follow the instructions here:

/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Transfer-from-Yahoo-Groups

Here's a summary to get you started for your particular situation:

1. Create a new group at Groups.io, with an umbrella name. I suggest "[email protected]".

/creategroup

(remember to set your group so that only the owner can create subgroups)

2. Then, create a subgroup called "WA". This will cause your main group to get renamed to "[email protected]". The subgroup's full name will be "[email protected]".

/g/recruit/createsubgroup

3. Then, buy "Premium Yearly" membership.

/g/recruit/plans

4. Then, follow the Easy Transfer procedures, and when you get to the point where you tell them which Yahoogroup to transfer into which Groups.io group, MAKE SURE you ask that "WARecruit@..." is transferred to [email protected] (and NOT to [email protected]).

/yahootransfer

5. Then repeat step 2 for all the other subgroups that have the most members and the most archives, and step 4 for each transfer from Yahoogroups to the relevant Groups.io subgroup.

I'm not sure if you would be able to do multiple transfers simultaneously. You can certainly try to invite the transfer agent to more than one Yahoogroups group at the same time.

Samuel

I have 50 yahoogroups (USA) and 20 (countries) = 70.

Would it be less confusing to make a few main groups?
Perhaps one for USA with subgroups and one for non-USA with subgroups?

Or even a finer breakdown?

Obviously it will cost more if you want / need Groups.io to transfer your groups from Yahoo Groups for you. Transferring to a subgroup is free (but frankly not sure that Mark was thinking of 69 subgroups!).

But I think you would find it less confusing to manage.?

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On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 10:49 AM, Dan Tappan wrote:

Seems unprofessional to not even respond with a boilerplate FAQ.

There used to be an auto-response when sending something to support saying they got it, but I haven't seen one in awhile.? I think maybe people were getting upset that they got this, then no answer for some time.? In one case, it was almost a year later before I got an answer.? Something minor, so I had almost forgotten about it.

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On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 10:49 AM, Dr. Kanter Business wrote:

I figured it out, its working, just takes 20’ for messages to arrive and appear.

There IS a short delay when a group is created (or after adding the first subgroup) before things start working, usually about 10 minutes, but sometimes a bit longer.

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On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 11:24 AM, Dan Tappan wrote:

I know I can add these members by hand with a one-month premium account;
and that there is a somewhat cumbersome way to install the archives. But
we are willing to pay for a premium account to have it "done right".

Dan -- Groups.io management is very sensitive about inadvertently aiding the theft of a group. I'm not suggesting that's what you're doing, but simply "saying it isn't so" isn't good enough when there could be legal implications.

It could very well be that the owner *wants* the group to die a natural death. Since you are unable to contact him, I think you're on your own.

Unfortunate, but not unusual.

So I'm wondering: is there any point to waiting for a response from
[email protected] or should I just go ahead and do what I can myself.

You should go ahead and do it yourself.

Do they not want our money?

As others have made clear, money is not the issue.?

Silence in response to support requests doesn't
inspire a lot of confidence in the organization, and makes me a little
nervous about moving over. Maybe I should be looking for a different
list provider?

Other options are available. Entirely your call.

Regards,
Bruce