Folks -- I haven't posted this in 7 days so I'm probably overdue to do so again. My apologies for the inevitable dupes in your email inbox.

Appended below please find detailed instructions on how to conduct a transfer using the Easy Group Transfer method.

Other resources:

Please note that the way you select an existing transfer for further processing has changed. It used to be a pull-down menu, it is now a list of links.

Regards,
Bruce

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Here is the process. It is not fully automated and will take several days.?Do not do anything out of order.

The following instructions are for a full-width desktop/laptop display. This can all be done on mobile too, but it's a lot easier if you don't.

1.1 Create your groups.io group and configure it according to your needs. Help with group settings can be found here:??/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Quick-Start-for-Group-Formation?(Note: Each new group must be reviewed to confirm that it meets the?Groups.io Terms of Service. This alone could take up to a day.)
1.2 To use the Easy Group Transfer,?you must upgrade the group to the?Premium Yearly?plan.?You can downgrade to the Basic plan later (i.e.: a year from now), if you want.
To do so, select Admin>Upgrade from the left-side menu bar and click on the blue "View/Change Plan" button. Select "Premium Yearly" (one-time cost of?$220) and make your payment.?
(You have now completed Step 1 of the instructions)

2.1 Return to the bookmarked page (/yahootransfer). Click on the big green button at the bottom that says "Set Up New Transfer."
2.2 Enter the name of your Yahoo group and the name of your groups.io group in their respective boxes. The groups.io group is conveniently selected from a pick-list of those groups that you own. Do NOT enter any domain information (i.e.:?leave off[email protected] or @yahoogroups.co.uk),?just the group name.
2.3 Click the big green "Start Group Transfer Process" button at the bottom of the page.?
(You have now completed Step 2 of the instructions)

3.1 Go to your YAHOO GROUP (not your groups.io group) and log in. Send a membership invitation to "[email protected]". If you've never done this before, instructions can be found at??
3.2 Return to the bookmarked page?(/yahootransfer) once again. Select the group you are transferring from the Existing Transfers at bottom right (click on its link). A new page will come up, with?a status box at the top. If all is well, it?should?say: "We've received the invite to your group and will accept it soon. There is no need to send another invite."?If it?doesn't?say that, the invitation did not go through. Go back to Step 3.1 above and try again.?
(You have now completed Step 3 of the instructions)

4.1 BE PATIENT. Accepting the invitation is often?the longest step in the process, and requires human intervention (solving a CAPTCHA).?
4.2 BE EVEN MORE PATIENT.?Do?not?send additional invitations in an attempt to hurry things up.
4.3 You will eventually?receive an email from groups.io stating?that the Yahoo group invitation has been accepted, and providing you with further instructions.?Continue waiting until you receive this email.
(You have now completed Step 4 of the instructions)

5.1 Return to your YAHOO GROUP and log in. Find the "[email protected]" member record (sorting by join date is the easiest way) and promote it to a Moderator. Instructions for this can be found at?.
5.2 Return to the groups.io page that you bookmarked in #0.4 above one more time. Once again, go to the "Existing Transfers" at bottom right and select the group you're ready to transfer. On the resulting page, click the green "Give Go Ahead to Transfer" button.?
(You have now completed Step 5 of the instructions)

6.1 BE PATIENT AGAIN. The ability to actually do the transfer depends on how well Yahoo's servers are operating. We all know what that means, right??(If you want to check status, see?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/19948).
6.2 You may notice some activity in your new groups.io group, which probably reflects partial completion of the process.?Do not panic.?This is what you wanted to happen!
6.3 When the transfer is done, you will receive an email from groups.io summarizing what it was able to transfer. It will also list whatever things it was?NOT?able to transfer.?Until this email is received, you aren't done yet.
6.4 Rejoice.

Most of us have "been there" with this process before and it all sounds easy in hindsight. Ironically, the same thing that's causing most people to abandon Y!G (server downtime) is exactly the same thing most likely to get in the way of completing the transfer process.?The best time to initiate a transfer is when Yahoo is performing well.?If you procrastinate until things are crashing and burning, delays, incomplete transfers, and other such frustrations can be expected.

Hope this helps,
Bruce

On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 12:37 PM, <stedman@...> wrote:

Or, do they contain only the email address of the person receiving the invitation?

The concern you have stated in the subject line of this topic does not happen. See?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/22518?for information on how the data you provide is parsed and inserted into each invitation.

I'm interested in inviting 130 people from a group hosted elsewhere to join here, but didn't want to inundate people with a list of 130 email addresses or reveal email addresses to others without their permission.

No worries...you can hit "Send Invitations" now. :-)

Bruce

Or, do they contain only the email address of the person receiving the invitation?

I'm interested in inviting 130 people from a group hosted elsewhere to join here, but didn't want to inundate people with a list of 130 email addresses or reveal email addresses to others without their permission.

So, how does this work? ?I have a long list of email addresses in the Invite Emails field, but do not want to hit "Send Invitations" until I know what happens!

Thanks for any help your can provide!

On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 12:35 PM, Dave D. wrote:

So if email address A is attached to my actual account. But there's a member slot on the list with email address B (also mine). Couldn't I setup address B on an alias to post, and then the system would send me messages on the same, since it sees that as a member?

No. Groups.io does not send emails to alias addresses, because they do not go through the confirmation process.

Bruce

Thanks Bruce. So if email address A is attached to my actual account. But there's a member slot on the list with email address B (also mine). Couldn't I setup address B on an alias to post, and then the system would send me messages on the same, since it sees that as a member? I'm sure there's a down side to this, but I can't think of it. Obviously I wouldn't be able to do anything via web access, with that B address.

On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 11:50 AM, Dave D. wrote:

On one of the lists I transferred, I was already setup as owner here obviously, but it imported me as a 'member' from the other list as well, since I was using a different email address there. Is there any way I can import that profile into my account so I can utilize that different email address for that list, without having to create a separate account?

Dave -- If I understand you correctly, the answer is no.

Each email address is its own account. You can set up a secondary email address as an alias for posting purposes only, but all group emails will still be RECEIVED at the primary email address, and only the primary address can be used to log into groups.io.

See also?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Profile-and-Email-Address-and-Merging-Accounts

Bruce

On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 04:34 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Removed-for-spam

Andrea; it is also worth noting that there is nothing "private" about that guidance. The wiki section on GMF is publicly visible so it might be worth including the URL in a message (Special Notice, even!) so that your members can read it for themselves. Given that "measures in mitigation" are under individual members' control rather than yours this might be the preferred option. You can even copy it into your own wiki if you want, but of course it won't be updated if the GMF original is edited. At the time of writing this it has been revised some 37 times. :)

Chris

On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 10:58 AM, <bob@...> wrote:

I changed it yesterday in Settings as described in the guide for changing the group name.? Then today I tried adding member that was not currently registered with groups.io.? Everything seemed fine in that the new group name properly appeared in the e-mail address for the group and in the "confirm your e-mail" message to the new member.? But there is a problem with the "welcome to <newname>@groups.io" message the new member gets.? The new name does indeed appear in the subject line of the message, and the "from" address is also the new group name @groups.io.? But the content of that message contains all references to the original name of the group...etc.

Bob -- This is covered in the wiki entry (/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Renaming-a-Group) as the final bullet point under "Some Impacts of Renaming a Group." I suggest re-reading this page to ensure you have detected and remedied all such issues before proceeding further.

Renaming a group can create some big problems. Although it's nice to be able to if you really need it, prospective group owners should carefully decide what they want their group to be called from the outset, and not rely on this as a safety net.

Regards,
Bruce

On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 11:35 AM, Eric Johnson wrote:

How do I "enroll" these folks...

Eric -- Having paid for a year of Premium, the simplest way is to Direct Add them.

Go to Admin>Direct Add and enter each of their email addresses in the Emails block, one per line. Then click the "+Add Members" button.

...and what email address do they use? Is it as simple as "[email protected]"?

If you have no subgroups, yes, it is really that simple. The group email address also appears on your group home page (see "Group Email Addresses") and in the generic Welcome notice sent to each new subscriber.

Bruce

On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 09:58 AM, <bob@...> wrote:

But there is a problem with the "welcome to <newname>@groups.io" message the new member gets.

The initial Welcome message is automatically created when you create the group using the proper name.? If you change the group name, you have to edit that notice (and possibly others) since they're not regenerated.

Duane
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On one of the lists I transferred, I was already setup as owner here obviously, but it imported me as a 'member' from the other list as well, since I was using a different email address there. Is there any way I can import that profile into my account so I can utilize that different email address for that list, without having to create a separate account? Thanks for any help.

On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 10:57 AM, J Forster wrote:

Does anyone know what is the current delay between an Yahoo Group Owner sending an invitation to? [email protected] and Transfer joining up?
It's been a least two days for several of my invitations.

J -- That's not unusual.

Should a second invitation be sent now?

That depends.

Check your status as described in?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/21952???If it says something along the lines of "Be sure to send an invite to..." then your invitation did not go through, and you should return to your Yahoo group and try again. If it says "We have received your invite and will accept it soon..." all you can do is wait.

If it says something else, come back here and let us know.

Regards,
Bruce

I'm toying with the idea of having a half dozen key users of my site got early access. I'm patiently waiting Last I checked we were about 886th in line.

How do I "enroll" these folks and what email address do they use? Is it as simple as "[email protected]"?

Thanks. Lots of really technical questions are being answered here but to me . . .baby steps, baby steps.

Eric

On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 03:57 PM, paul fox wrote:

Even a "resize" button in the Edit dialog would make doing the job manually at least feel tractable.

Probably a good suggestion for beta once the dust has settled from the Great Migration, because I suspect that there would be quite a few group owners & moderators who would want to use such a capability.

Chris

On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 11:33 AM, Andrea wrote:

Some of my members are being rejected because group emails to them are going into spam folders.?

I have been manually reinstating those rejected members.?

IS THERE A WAY TO TURN OFF YOUR AUTO REJECTION?

No. See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Removed-for-spam

Bruce

I have a new groups.io group.?

Some of my members are being rejected because group emails to them are going into spam folders.?

I have been manually reinstating those rejected members.?



IS THERE A WAY TO TURN OFF YOUR AUTO REJECTION?


Andrea

On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 10:57 AM, Garden State Sheep Breeders wrote:

Date should be Dec. 21 7-9PM EST NOT Dec. 22. Thought I'd changed the date display to EST vs UTC but maybe I missed it somewhere else?? Very confusing for recipients.? Thx for any help.

Andrea -- 9 PM on Dec 21 EST is 2 AM the following day in England.

Groups.io is a global community, and so are many of the groups here.?Any event that you set up will display at correct time/date for each subscribers's local time zone. Individuals can set their local time zone at?/account?page=prefs? Note that this is an account setting, not a group setting, and will apply to every group that individual has joined.?

If you want to set up a default time zone for people that join your group, it can be done at Admin>Settings>Default Sub Settings (button at the top of the Settings page). Please note that this is only a default for those who don't already have a groups.io account (i.e.: their account was set up as a result of joining). If they already have a groups.io account, the Default Sub Setting of your group will not override whatever they have previously chosen.

Hope this helps,
Bruce

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Duane,

Emails on GMF have exploded. I feel sorry for moderators/owners. You guys do a great service for a lot of people. Thanks.


Would it be possible to encourage people to use the #transfer for questions and comments related to new transfers so us? "older" groups can mute this hashtag. And I do know about muting a topic.
Ullmang