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Received from Shal Farley at 10/31/2018 07:51 AM UTC:

Jim,

It sure looks to me like upon initial sign up one can set a password without having to ask for a login via email.

True, but having done so your account is NC (Not Confirmed) until you receive and respond to an email verification request.

In NC status you don't receive group messages by email, and you can't access any members-only group pages - only public pages and your Account pages. Maybe your Subscription page as well.

So again, if you are having difficulty getting messages at that address, you are fairly well stuck.

That's true for subscribers whose ISP is blocking Gio email at time of signup, but doesn't it have potential benefits for the other 98% of subscribers? Including the ones at ISPs who later block Gio email so they can't get a login link after their cookie expires?

Jim H

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 04:05 PM, Beth Weld wrote:

I have someone who wants the subject line to always include the name of the main group along with the subgroup so that she can filter emails easily.

Okay, that's an entirely different situation from what you first described.

If it doesn't have to actually function as a hashtag, you can do this with the Subject Tag. Note that GroupManagersForum has a subject tag of [GMF].

Go to Admin>Settings>Message Formatting for each group/subgroup and change it to whatever you want. This will only affect EMAILS, though...the Subject Tag will not appear in the message archive.
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Bruce
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Thanks Bruce,
That is what I was afraid of.? I have someone who wants the subject line to always include the name of the main group along with the subgroup so that she can filter emails easily. I really don't want to rename all of the subgroups to include the name of the main group, and I guess that I'm not as sympathetic as I should be.? I was hoping that a forced hashtag would be a compromise, but I guess not.

Any ideas are always appreciated.
Thanks
Beth

Received from Tony Moody at 10/30/2018 12:21 PM UTC:

Normally, on the login page my Emailaddress and Password (obfuscated) are prefilled; I click the Green login button and I'm in. Every time month after month. That is my story and I'm sticking to it.

You're using the auto form fill feature of your browser to enter a Username (Email Address) and Password every time you visit Gio.

That's a seriously insecure way of managing passwords UNLESS you have good physical security for your computer plus require a password to logon to that computer. Otherwise anyone who sits in front of your computer can log into your Gio account.

In any case, what you're doing makes any issue with cookies moot for you because you don't depend on cookies.

Jim H

Chris, not everyone is computer literate; I'm afraid you fail to grasp that. You and I are interacting on the website, which, I've explained, some of my members are unable to do because they can't work through the login system without having to remember every 30 days that they are not joining a new site with different credentials. We've created a comprehensive tutorial, but again, some of our members were born before Fortran.;)

We migrated here from Yahoo, and even that was a learning experience for some. Even there, some members found it difficult to use our website. As moderators, we can force our users to do things our way, or we can try to adapt to the needs of our group.

I didn't start this thread, and it appears that other groups have a similar issue. But I'm done.

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 09:26 AM, Beth Weld wrote:

Is there a way to set up a hashtag for a group and have every new topic/message have that inserted without the member manually adding it?? Example - in a meeting subgroup, set up a hashtag for "#meeting" and have that appended to every subject line in that subgroup?

There are some aspects of hashtags (set Topic Duration, lock immediately, etc) that could be a desirable automated feature for a [sub]group and cannot be achieved in any other way. Unfortunately, at?this time hashtags have to be inserted manually into each topic, the exceptions being the automated announcement ones (like #poll and #chat).

You can create a situation via group settings whereby the group requires hashtags?and there is only one available, thereby forcing everybody to include the hashtag if they don't want their post to bounce. Most group owners have found that idea too objectionable for further consideration.

I have even tried embedding a hashtag in the group's Subject Tag, hoping it would be applied. But it seems the message subject line is parsed for hashtags before the subject tag is inserted, so that attempt also failed.

I hope this helps, but it probably doesn't.

Bruce
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On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 08:42 AM, Cody, Helenmary wrote:

Once that is done, would it be possible to import just the messages from a second group, CRFCRC_Board_Committees, essentially combining the histories of the two groups?

Yes, this has been done before. The only "problem" is that the message numbers will be out of sequence.?

Let's say your first group transferred has 5000 messages. They will be imported as message numbers 1-5000. Message #5001 will be the first message of the second group imported, despite the fact that it might have been posted on the same date or even before message #1.

Message date/time stamps are retained, and as messages are generally viewed in chronological order anyway, this may not be objectionable. Just don't be too surprised when you find the assigned message numbers to be interleaved like this.

Hope this helps,
Bruce

P.S. Setting up the committees group as a subgroup of the board may be a more logical way to organize this.
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I have searched, but I can't find an easy answer so need to ask.

Is there a way to set up a hashtag for a group and have every new topic/message have that inserted without the member manually adding it?? Example - in a meeting subgroup, set up a hashtag for "#meeting" and have that appended to every subject line in that subgroup?
Thanks
Beth

On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 11:54 PM, Bart Fried wrote:

Any way to crunch them back into the original thread?

Others have shown you where you can find information on merging threads. You can also split off messages from a thread that has been hijacked.

These are useful tools, but something to keep in mind:? While you can tidy up the message archive, it has no effect on emails that have already gone out...if anyone subsequently replies to them, the problem arises all over again. So splitting and merging threads can become a real pain, and it's often best to wait until the discussion dies down before attempting to clean up the mess.

Hope this helps,
Bruce
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I am new here and just starting to get the hang of groups.io. I think this is the right place for my question, but please redirect me if not!

I am looking to import several small groups from Yahoo to groups.io. I am in the midst of importing the first group, CRFCRC_Board, with all of its members, messages, documents, etc. Once that is done, would it be possible to import just the messages from a second group, CRFCRC_Board_Committees, essentially combining the histories of the two groups? Or will the import function only work once per new groups.io group? I could set up two groups again, but it really would simplify things if they could just be combined.

Thanks for your help!

Yes, the procedure is called Merging.? Check the Wiki entry at /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/How-to-Merge-Threads, then we can give additional advice, if needed.

Duane
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Have you checked out merging and splitting topics in the Messages section of the wiki:

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I have split and merged threads. It works but it requires care.?

Frances

Shal,

I've contacted support at Groups.io about this, and I'm just waiting for a response. I also contacted my ISP today, and they don't think it is their problem...but they didn't seem very knowledgeable. I may try again with the ISP, hoping I get someone that knows more.

WBennett

I am able to stay current on our member postings, by logging into my group and reading the messages, so it's not a huge problem in one respect. I prefer using my email program Outlook, but I can work with checking into my group too.?At first I thought the problem was with my ISP (cox.com), but now I wondering if the problem is Groups.io.?

Don

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Simple question: Is there an easy way (or any way, really) to combine topics that are really replies to an original topic, but get separated for a variety of reasons? Here is an example. Roger posts a topic, but also cross-posts to a list-serv, which shows up in a reply subject line, starting a new topic. Another fellow, Richard replies, but his ISP has tagged the post as ADV (advertising, I assume), so his reply becomes another new topic, although it isn't. And to compound things, Roger decides to post yet another reply, but adds a 'suffix' to his subject line, starting a fourth new topic. Any way to crunch them back into the original thread?

Thanks,

Bart

On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 09:22 PM, DanLins wrote:

See?attached Table.jpg and Table2.jpg

It looks to me as if you have somehow set the other six columns in the table (the ones containing the actual data) for fixed-width display. The ID and Updated columns thus automatically expand to fill available space in the browser window.

I suspect that removing the forced carriage returns in the data, along with some additional fiddling with the column data types, should make this table display a lot better. Someone with more experience with databases than yours truly will have to provide more explicit instructions.

Hope this helps,
Bruce
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On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 07:47 PM, DanLins wrote:

Not sure how I can attach a screen shot to these - any ideas??

In Windows, hold down the Alt key and press the Print Screen key. This will copy the current window contents into your clipboard. Open your favorite image editor, paste the clipboard contents into a new image, and save, preferably as a JPEG.?

In the online message editor, click on the paperclip icon in the menu bar to attach the resulting file to a message.?If sending by email, use whatever your email client uses to attach something. Some email clients will also allow you to paste clipboard contents directly into a message, so this could also be an option.

Regards,
Bruce?
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Not sure how I can attach a screen shot to these - any ideas??