Re: When you are in Stage 3
I started out at 517 on October 27.? I'm at 430 now.? My hope is that the further we get from the Yahoo drop dead date of October 28, the faster things will move.? It's not looking that way, but one can hope!
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Re: When you are in Stage 3
Looks like they are running about 30 groups per day right now.? So 857 would take maybe 28 days at that rate.? Hopefully it will speed up a bit....
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On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 07:35 PM, Peter Keenan wrote:
The Group is "LA Producer".? I kept spelling it in plural with an "s".? Sorry for the confusion.? My mistake.
I have just found your Home Page; may I be so bold as to suggest that you remove the email addresses of your Moderators? Leaving those on a publicly visible page is high risk; the only thing missing is a big flashing sign saying Please send me as much spam (and worse) as you possibly can.
Groups operate perfectly well without individual people having their email addresses visible on the Home Page. Chris
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Re: Transferring Yahoo group after October 28
On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 04:22 PM, Larry wrote:
I don't even see the Admin pull down where I could initiate an invite. This is why I am wondering if Yahoo is not allowing any more invites.
If so, you're the first one to report it. I'm not betting on anything with Yahoo Groups anymore.
I have already migrated two other Yahoo groups to groups.io with no problem, but they were done before the 28th.
Wow. I just browsed to one of my Yahoo Groups and everything is REALLY SLOW.?Are you double-sure that you have the necessary permissions to send an invitation in this particular group? I know I've asked you that before but it's the only thing I can think of to explain why I can access those management tools and you can't.
In the meantime, I have initiated a download from Yahoo of all my data. I am waiting for them to respond with a link to the download.
That's probably wise in any event. Good luck, Bruce
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Re: Transferring Yahoo group after October 28
I don't even see the Admin pull
down where I could initiate an invite. This is why I am
wondering if Yahoo is not allowing any more invites. I have
already migrated two other Yahoo groups to groups.io with no
problem, but they were done before the 28th. I'm just wondering
if everything changed after the 28th. In the meantime, I have
initiated a download from Yahoo of all my data. I am waiting for
them to respond with a link to the download.
Thanks,
Larry
On 10/31/2019 3:41 PM, Bruce Bowman
wrote:
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On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 02:42 PM, Larry wrote:
I am the sole owner of the Yahoo group and have full
permissions. It appears that after October 28, Yahoo is not
allowing new invitations.
Larry -- I will be unable provide further assistance until you
answer all the
questions from?my
previous post.
What you are describing is not unusual, and you really should try
sending the invitation more than once before writing it all off.
Regards,
Bruce
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Re: When you are in Stage 3
On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 04:18 PM, Susan Pitlock wrote:
Your group is awaiting import into Groups.io. There are about 857 groups ahead of it in the queue. [Step 3 of 4]
Typically how long of a wait to be fully transferred when you have reached step 3? I am super excited about getting this far.?
According to Mark Murphy (not to be confused with Mark Fletcher), his group moved from #198 in the queue to the actual upload to groups.io about 6 days (Ref:? /g/GroupManagersForum/message/21624). Your mileage may vary, void where prohibited, objects in mirror may be closer than they appear. Bruce
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Your group is awaiting import into Groups.io. There are about 857 groups ahead of it in the queue. [Step 3 of 4]
Typically how long of a wait to be fully transferred when you have reached step 3? I am super excited about getting this far.?
Susan
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Copying Original Message In Reply (was: Able to edit reject message heading?)
On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 04:07 PM, Niman H wrote:
Side question - how do you copy the original text of a message so it also appears in a response? Is there a quick way, besides copy/paste?
Sally -- Online, click on the quote bubble at the far left end of the toolbar of the message editor. Using your email client, use whatever tools it provides. Regards, Bruce
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Re: Able to edit reject message heading?
Michael - On YG the reject email had the original subject as the subject of the rejected email. Yes agreed this wording is nicer than "reject" but still may be confusing if all they are doing is asking for info or making a comment. Yes (sigh) they should use?+owner for that, but that's the least of what I have to remind members about ;) David, thank you, that's another good idea, just it doesn't automatically add in the original message. Ok I will post it in Beta, Bruce, good idea to offer an alternative, thank you. Just working out the kinks here, so wonderful of all the members, especially Shal (!) to try to help everyone. Sally
Side question - how do you copy the original text of a message so it also appears in a response? Is there a quick way, besides copy/paste?
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Re: Direct Add #direct #direct add
#direct
On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 04:04 PM, Earl Novendstern wrote:
I just signed up for premium and tried uploading 650 addresses.? I received this message
You have reached the limit for number of direct adds that can be processed without approval. Once your new direct adds have been approved, they will be processed. You will receive a notification when this happens.
This is an anti-spamming feature. It was introduced two years ago when a spammer set up a group and sent out 600,000 invitations. See? /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/20-Invitations-Limit?for details.
What happens next?? Thank you.
You do what it says...wait for the notification. Regards, Bruce ?
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Direct Add #direct #direct add
#direct
I just signed up for premium and tried uploading 650 addresses.? I received this message
You have reached the limit for number of direct adds that can be processed without approval. Once your new direct adds have been approved, they will be processed. You will receive a notification when this happens.
What happens next?? Thank you.
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Re: Can a user flag or ¡°favorite¡± a message?
#howto
On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 03:58 PM, JerryG wrote:
With active groups, users may want to flag certain individual messages or topics so they can easily find them again. This would not be public, but rather their own personal list of favorites. Is there a way to do this?
Jerry -- No, although this has been suggested before (Ref: ?and others). Whether it will ever actually occur is anyone's guess. Bruce
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Can a user flag or ¡°favorite¡± a message?
#howto
?With active groups, users may want to flag certain individual messages or topics so they can easily find them again. This would not be public, but rather their own personal list of favorites. Is there a way to do this? Thanks.
Jerry
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jerryg2003@...
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Yes, Transfer agent was invited to NYC-MM yahoo group and is moderator there, so all is well in NYC-MM@....? Thanks.?
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My bad on asking about moderator in groups.io ¨C I started thinking agent should be moderator there as well but that¡¯s not the case.
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Thanks.?
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Best Regards,
Gary
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Jones via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 1:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [GMF] #transfer
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On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 05:33 PM, Duane wrote:
It never was and never will be.? It's only on the YG.
Gary; can you please confirm that the transfer agent was invited to your Yahoo group, not your Groups.io version?
Chris
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Re: How to find status page for transfer
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Re: Welcome Message Not Sent After Transition
On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 02:46 PM, Jesse Nahan wrote:
I've checked about a half dozen accounts
The Welcome message being sent isn't logged on the group.? You need to check with some members to see if any of them got it.? I suspect they did. Duane -- Help: /static/helpGMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wikiSearch button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions
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Re: How to find status page for transfer
Frances - Thanks but that's exactly what I did, but I still see only empty screen next to "View existing ..."
On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 12:38 PM Frances < frances@...> wrote: John,
From the FAQ I mentioned:
8. How do I check the transfer status?
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Transfers are queued up when you first set it up and processed in that order until you get to Step 5.?
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At that point they are re-ordered based on when the transfer go-ahead is given and uploaded to in that order (unless you pay $200 for priority service).
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When you click on the green "Set Up New Transfer" button at bottom left of the Yahoo groups transfer page ( /yahootransfer), a new page will come up where you can enter the source and destination group names.? ?
There is also a series of checkboxes for the various areas of the group to transfer (files, photos, members, messages, etc). Simply uncheck the ones you don't want before clicking the "Start New Transfer Process" button.
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(a) If you've already started a transfer:
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Select the transfer you want to check status on from "Existing Transfers" at lower right (i.e.: click on the name)
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The box at the top of the resulting page will tell you the status of that transfer.
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Repeat for any other transfers you may have in progress.
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?- if the status is the message that starts "Make sure you have sent an invite to your group":
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This means that Groups.io has not received your invite yet and that you should send another one. They will send you an email once they have received and accepted an invite. If this message hasn't been updated within 6 hours of you sending your invite, please send another one. This notice will be updated when they ?have received your invite.?
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(b) For transfers that are actually approved and in progress, see where you are in the queue:
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When you go to edit your transfer, if it's been submitted for transfer, you'll now see one of these 4 status lines:
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Your group is awaiting export from Yahoo. [Step 1 of 4]
Your group is being exported from Yahoo right now. [Step 2 of 4]
Your group is awaiting import into Groups.io. There are about N groups ahead of it in the queue. [Step 3 of 4] **
Your group is being imported into Groups.io right now. [Step 4 of 4]
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** Where N in Step 3 is an estimate as to where you are in the queue. i.e. Your group is about 70th in the queue right now.
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Step 4 is the biggest bottleneck, as I can only import so many groups at a time without overloading the system. I can't give an estimate as to how long each group takes to be imported, because each group is different (how many photos, how many messages, etc). Also it's dependent on how many groups have requested expedited processing at the time.
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FAQ on Moving from YahooGroups
GMF Wiki: (unofficial) Help for members (and would-be members) and group managers
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Re: So, 5000+ members groups are still free?
On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 03:46 PM, Samuel Murray wrote:
There was a post by Mark that implied that groups with lots of members will have to be paid groups in future, but then things changed again. What is the latest on this issue?
Samuel -- The only thing that has recently (and definitely) changed regarding this is the two-fold increase in the Premium fees. All else is just speculation. Regards, Bruce
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So, 5000+ members groups are still free?
Hello
There was a post by Mark that implied that groups with lots of members will have to be paid groups in future, but then things changed again. What is the latest on this issue?
I'd like to create a free group and invite the current 5000 or so members to the group. No doubt many of them will not join, but what if lots of them do join? Traffic on the list is about 50-100 messages per month.
Samuel
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Re: Welcome Message Not Sent After Transition
Thank you, Bruce, for your quick reply.
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I've checked about a half dozen accounts and none have received the welcome message. I made it active a week ago in preparation for the big transition.?
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I will send it out manually. That isn't a big deal. The automated migration has been smooth and my members are already happily posting away on?.
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Bruce
Duane
John Curran Ladd
Samuel Murray