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Re: Receiving gifs, jpgs and creations in emails -html

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I have no idea if this will help you but here goes.? I just started my group on Sunday so I'm new also and don't want to waste your time.
Somewhere in the settings (might be photos) is an option to change the size of the attachments. I had to set mine as 'keep original size'.
Our group exchanges Incredimail Stationery and also gifs and pngs etc and the stationery was coming through with the images much smaller than they should have been.

I went in and looked around.? I set that to 'keep original size' and it worked.

Not sure if this will help or not.

Loopy
Re: #Testimonials #testimonials

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On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 07:21 am, Ruthie Levi wrote:
? i have gotten spoiled by the very fast replies to my queries! & trust me, some of my questions have been quite mundane & obvious
Me, too. I meant to add a comment like that to my own "testimonial." Mark always responds politely and immediately to my "bug reports" (sic) explaining, when it turns out that I've done something stupid and there's no bug, things like "Hi, J, I see that you unmoderated that person this morning, which might explain why their message didn't go through pending" or whatever. I can't count how many times I've had to write back, "Thanks, Mark! D'oh!"
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Re: #Testimonials #testimonials

 

Hi,

? The only negative I find about groups.io is the introduction of the hashtags !??
But then, I'm an old man with all the baggage that goes with that.

? Groups.io is?

? ? ? Always there
? ? ? Easy to use
? ? ? Easy to manage (nothing to do!)
? ? ? Better than YG was on its best day ...
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?- Jim B.

P.S. If you are still on the fence about moving from YG ... Just Do It!
a bit of #testimonials

J_Catlady
 

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 07:21 am, Ruthie Levi wrote:
i think at 5000 we shud throw a virtual party here!
I agree! And speaking of which, it is a testament to Mark *the person* that he and his product have garnered such strong support among transferees. To all the people here expressing doubt, I think that augers well for the company.
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Re: #Testimonials #testimonials

J_Catlady
 

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 07:23 am, Stan Gorodenski wrote:
To the contrary, my experience is that yahoo has responded to problems I have had and members have had. It was only after the neo change that it became more difficult to get help.
You don't know that my timeframe was the same as yours. But if you're happy in Yahoo, no need to move!
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Re: After the transfer, some YG subscribers immediately opt out of new list on groups.io

 

Ken/all,
? Another possible explanation is that they see the invite from groups.io

? ? ? ? ?===> and treat it as spam.

If you don't read the invite it's easy to reach the "what's this?" state
and follow it with a conditioned response to "just delete" (opt out).??
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?- Jim B.
Re: After the transfer, some YG subscribers immediately opt out of new list on groups.io

 

Don,
This is something I have also thought about. I wonder how many actual members I have due to members that are already gone (new email address) and not taking the time to unsubscribe, or dying (this happened in my group to an individual I personally knew). I sort of cringe at what my actual membership may be. I might actually be 30%, like yours, of the membership stated in YG's.
Stan

On 2/20/2018 12:07 AM, Don wrote:

I experienced many people leaving our group too, but I knew that was going to happen. About ever four years I would purge the group to get the true number of members in the group, as I¡¯ve found out our membership numbers get falsely inflated over time. People come and go all the time, and a lot leave without unsubscribing. The last time I purged the group I started with about 280 members, and by the time the purge was done we had about 85 real members. By the end of February I¡¯ll know the true number of members we have, and I¡¯m guessing we¡¯ll end up with around 85 again. In another 3 to 4 years I¡¯ll do it all over again.

Don
Re: After the transfer, some YG subscribers immediately opt out of new list on groups.io

 

Maybe this is related to the confusion, that I mentioned in a previous post, of members mistakenly thinking they had been added to a new group they did not request a subscription to. As I also mentioned, it is too easy in the welcome message to unsubscribe (just click on the highlighted word or words). I had earlier suggested removing this ability, but apparently this suggestion has been rejected. On thinking about this some more, I remember that some people might be reluctant to be part of a group they know nothing about - their email address might be used for commercial purposes, for example. However, at this point they are already part of the group. So, instead of making it so easy to unsubscribe at lightening speed, why not
a) make it clearer that they are being transferred from the yahoo group (maybe even name it) and to either contact the owner of the IO group to be removed (and the welcoming message could contain the email address of the owner), or
b) instead of this link in the welcoming message to instantaneously unsubscribe, just provide a link to the new group web site. They can then scroll down the the page and find the email address to unsubscribe.

Again, they are already in the group when they get the welcome message. So what would be the problem of them taking a little more time to unsubscribe? By having to take a little more extra time to unsubscribe, they might finally understand the situation, or if the welcoming message is modified according to option 'a', then the owner could more better explain what happened. The suggestion has been made that an email message could be sent out informing the members of the yahoo group about the transfer and to not unsubscribe (unless they really want to). I had already done this for the small group I am waiting to be transferred. However, first, remember that since this is yahoo and we know about all the problems yahoo is experiencing, maybe not all members will get the message. Second, since the transfer is taking a week, two weeks, maybe even a month or months, I'd bet that some of the members in my larger group I want to transfer to IO will have forgotten the message informing them of the transfer and informing them not to unsubscribe.
Stan

On 2/19/2018 11:43 PM, SP4149 wrote:

Within seconds of getting the rush that your group has finally, successfully transferred, you start getting messages from members of the old YG list who have immediately quit the new list (unsubscribed)

This is disappointing, after the frustration of waiting for the transfer to complete, to have old list members quit without even investigating the new list. At this point I will change the YG list to not allow new members or new posts. But there is this impulse to remove these instant unsubscribers from the old YG list as well. Make it a complete sweep on both lists...

*ken*

"It has always seemed strange to me," said Doc. "The things we admire in men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty, understanding and feeling are the concomitants of failure in our system. And those traits we detest, sharpness, greed, acquisitiveness, meanness, egotism and self-interest are the traits of success." *Steinbeck - Cannery Row*



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Re: #Testimonials #testimonials

 

On 2/20/2018 12:50 AM, J_Catlady wrote:


After the move, everything started to run smoothly. People were finding us more easily than before and we grew more rapidly. And, of course there were all the new and amazing features - some of which, unbelievably, I requested from Mark myself, and he responded and added them! The slightest problem, I email Mark and he responds immediately. This was after the experience in Yahoo groups where nobody responds, ever.
To the contrary, my experience is that yahoo has responded to problems I have had and members have had. It was only after the neo change that it became more difficult to get help. It became harder and harder to find the help screen so I could state my problem and eventually it disappeared. They later created this discussion group where owners can share experiences and resolve problem, I assume, which did not help me much. As it is now, I have no support from yahoo. The other problem I have are disappearing messages and messages being delayed for days before getting them. I think some of this, or maybe all of it, may be a problem with my internet provider, but some of it may be yahoo. I don't know. One member does not like to get messages and so he reads new messages from the group web site and responds from the web site. He continually complains that a lot of times the messages he sends gets lost in never never land.
Stan
a question & a bit of advice

 

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for those who ask about how to handle ur old YG, with regard to new members¡­we shut down the ability for new members to join, which causes an email to the ¡°owner¡± email address when the person attempts to apply for membership, so in this way, we still capture the person¡¯s interest & can redirect them to the new IO group.

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at its height, how many YGs were there? IO now has 4653 groups. i enjoy watching the counter go up on new groups created daily. i think at 5000 we shud throw a virtual party here!

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ruthie levi

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#Testimonials #testimonials

 

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to begin with, much praise & gratitude to the perennial posters/people who reply to the questions on this group & its predecessor on YG. you all saved my sanity & gave me such insight & advice on how to handle this move.

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as the moderator of IO¡¯s currently largest & most active group, i have ZERO complaints. have found a few bugs which were fixed asap. mark has been a pleasure to correspond with. i suggest following him & Groups IO on twitter for always up to date info.

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our transfer from YG to IO was seamless, quick & easy. we have 2 lists on the premium plan.

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as for the future, are any of us guaranteed tomorrow? we are not dealing here with young(sorry) startup kids. mark knows how to build a business, let him focus on what he knows how to do well. the rest shall fall nto place. i worry for the day when mark is too busy to answer my emails ?? i have gotten spoiled by the very fast replies to my queries! & trust me, some of my questions have been quite mundane & obvious to a real list professional, but yet i am always treated with respect.

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here is an article that was written about our transition to IO, by our local newspaper:

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i have 1 burning question about IO- why use ¡°cheers¡± as a salutation? ?

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ruthie levi

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Re: #Testimonials #testimonials

 

what youve written could be my comment exactley, our problems started with neo, settled down then since nov no one could add photos at all then some people couldnt post or get emails then finally kept telling me i didnt have permission to do this and that BUT I'm the owner. so i set up io group asked few members to check it out then hey presto here we are and i said other day the help available on here brilliant and from people who actually know what going on and can help. long live IO groups
jackiep

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On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 11:37 PM, Don <dgrass1@...> wrote:
My first bad experience with YG was after the Neo upgrade (I guess you can call it an upgrade), and then again in the last few months or so. One day the Photo Albums were not working very good, then another day the Files, then the Membership List, and on and on. Granted it didn't happen all the time, but enough over a period of time I began to wonder if things were going to get better or not. That's when I decided I should investigate if there were other sites I might like to move my group too, but after reading what other comparable sites offered I couldn't find one that offered what I was looking for. It was only by accident while looking through YG help groups looking for answers, did I hear mention of Groups.io. I looked Groups.io over, made a test site (Which became our new site), and experimented with what I could do with it for almost a month. The feel of Groups.io was different (And so was the look), but it did fill the bill for me so I moved our group to Groups.io. One big difference in my decision to move was support. Over at YG there is no company phone number to call for help, there is no company email address to write to for help with YG, and there is no person to communicate with online dealing with the groups. The only place you get any kind of help at YG is with the help user groups, but they can't doing anything about bugs or fixes to the groups...That's why YG is slowly going down in my opinion. At Groups.io the GMF is much more effective than my experience was at YG, and I have actually had correspondence with the owner and developer Mark! To be honest I liked YG, well, before the Neo upgrade. Something that surprised me after the transfer was, I've gotten members posting to our new site, telling me it has been the first time in months they have been able to post at all.? Now I'm done with YG, and I'm all in at Groups.io.

Don








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Re: After the transfer, some YG subscribers immediately opt out of new list on groups.io

 

On Tuesday, February 20, 2018, 3:53:44 AM EST, Don <dgrass1@...> wrote:

>I haven¡¯t closed our Y group yet, but I will soon. I was concerned new people were not going to find our new group by searching for us, so I edited our YG home page to tell them we moved, and where we moved too. Do date since our transfer I haven¡¯t had one request to join the Y group, but I¡¯ve had many requests to join us at the new Group.io group¡­They must have read the note I left on the YG home page. Once I put the old Y group out of its misery, people will then find us much easier during a search.

Don
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Hi Don,

I would not be hasty to Delete the Verizon/Yahoo group. With your edited homepage you have another source of members that appears to be working well & Groups.io is not, as of yet, well known. I intend to do the same when my main group is transferred.?

Paul, Ohio, USA
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Is there a way to run my Yahoo group and groups.io simultaneously #transfer

Southenders Admin
 

Now that I've gotten a new member notice for the transfer, is there a way to run both sites?
I have taken a name close to my present test site name and left it vacant for this moment. But can I pull the trigger and work on both sites at the same time?
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Re: After 6 days, still no transfer from yahoogroups

 

Just want to add one data point to this thread.? Patience is key.? We are still waiting for the transfer to occur (free group "nasota",not premium).?

invitation sent: Feb 7
response received: Feb 12
proceed with transfer response sent: Feb 13

still not transferred Feb 20 (but hopeful it will happen soon ???)

Barry
Re: After the transfer, some YG subscribers immediately opt out of new list on groups.io

 

Ken -
This is a phenomenon that has been noted for quite some time. There are a lot of theories, but no real clear answer. After I moved my groups almost a year ago, I started saving the notices for those who left after transfer and I think maybe half later came back. More frustrating are those who have transferred but can't quite sort out the subscribe process to access the new group web page. (I think recent changes may help that.) I lost a few that way. You'll also lose a few to the "marked a message as spam" situation with DMARC, who just don't find the resubscribe message groups.io also sends out.

But you'll also find people who had problems under Y! and then find the new group on groups.io and excitedly join without problems. And as things progress, you'll find a number of people who unsubscribed from the old Y! group because of frustrations as well. There's nothing much you can do but watch and remember that your focus is on the ones that remain.

As for the old list, don't delete members. Just set it to moderate all posts and other activity and tell members who post that they're responding to the old group location. Most of the posts I saw were people that had simply not changed the email address in their Address Books/Contacts. You may also see people request to join who have just found the old group. They can be directed to the new group, and they are generally grateful for that. And change your old group description to note the new group location.

Dano - [MILW] and [MILWmodelers] head janitor

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Within seconds of getting the rush that your group has finally, successfully transferred, you start getting messages from members of the old YG list who have immediately quit the new list (unsubscribed)

This is disappointing, after the frustration of waiting for the transfer to complete, to have old list members quit without even investigating the new list. At this point I will change the YG list to not allow new members or new posts. But there is this impulse to remove these instant unsubscribers from the old YG list as well. Make it a complete sweep on both lists...

ken
change owner name on invitation

 

Location:?Invitation to be Sent? there is two line of introduction before we can customize the invitation.??
Question:? Is there a way to change the name of the owner doing the inviting??
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?We have two owners.? It is preferred that some invitations to go our in each name.
Thank you for the help, as we could not find the answer in Help section.
Jennifer
Re: After the transfer, some YG subscribers immediately opt out of new list on groups.io

 

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I haven¡¯t closed our Y group yet, but I will soon. I was concerned new people were not going to find our new group by searching for us, so I edited our YG home page to tell them we moved, and where we moved too. Do date since our transfer I haven¡¯t had one request to join the Y group, but I¡¯ve had many requests to join us at the new Group.io group¡­They must have read the note I left on the YG home page. Once I put the old Y group out of its misery, people will then find us much easier during a search.

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Don
Re: #Testimonials #testimonials

 

J,

I have the luxury of complaining about the slightest little detail
here that goes wrong, and drumming my fingertips with impatience while
Mark has the audacity to take more than an hour or so to fix them lol.
LOL, I know this isn't you, but the mental image of you drumming your fingertips reminded me of it:


I'd be generous and assume it was an enterprise customer...
... but I've been around humans too long for that.

Shal


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Re: After the transfer, some YG subscribers immediately opt out of new list on groups.io

 

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Don,

? The first time it happened, I took it personally, as some didn't want to move and stayed on the YG list.? But a couple of weeks I didn't want to moderate the old YG list anymore and closed it down to activity and deleted YG members who refused to move to groups.io but still wanted the YG list to remain active.

ken

"It has always seemed strange to me," said Doc. "The things we admire in men, kindness and generosity, openness, honesty, understanding and feeling are the concomitants of failure in our system. And those traits we detest, sharpness, greed, acquisitiveness, meanness, egotism and self-interest are the traits of success."? Steinbeck - Cannery Row



On 2018-02-19 23:07, Don wrote:

I experienced many people leaving our group too, but I knew that was going to happen. About ever four years I would purge the group to get the true number of members in the group, as I've found out our membership numbers get falsely inflated over time. People come and go all the time, and a lot leave without unsubscribing. The last time I purged the group I started with about 280 members, and by the time the purge was done we had about 85 real members. By the end of February I'll know the true number of members we have, and I'm guessing we'll end up with around 85 again. In another 3 to 4 years I'll do it all over again.

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Don
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