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Re: Transfer steps
On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 06:18 PM, Susan Pitlock wrote:
So when we get transferred, I would look back in my member list and send invites to anyone new that joined since mid October.That would be one way.? Is there any way to transfer newer messages that aren't with the IO transfer?You could save them in your email client and forward them one by one...but frankly, there is really no GOOD way. If it were me, I'd encourage people to just go ahead, join the GIO group, and start posting there. The downsides of doing so (i.e.: losing their vanity "join date") do not strike me as very compelling. Bruce |
Expediate transfer
#transfer
I followed Bruce's step by step guide and started by paying $200 for Premium Service for a year. I've now had notification from the transfer agent that my invitation to my Yahoogroup has been accepted, the agent has been set as moderator and I have given the transfer the go-ahead. The only button still available on the transfer screen is "expediate transfer for $200". If I click that, it asks if I'm sure that I want to pay. But I have already paid and I have payment confirmation. Is by transfer being expediated or not now? Thanks. |
Re: What do I do: Yahoo! #transfer only brought ~4,500 of ~14,500 messages
#transfer
Paul -- The number found on your group home page (under "Group Information") is the number of topics, not messages.
Go to?/g/GROUPNAME/messages?(where GROUPNAME is the actual name of your group). The number at upper right will give you the total number of messages (viz: the attached screenshot). Please let us know if this number is more to your liking. Regards, Bruce |
Re: Two problems with emails being sent by our group
Those "completely out to lunch" episodes that have been so frequent on Yahoo since NEO never seem to happen on groups.io, thank you very much
Upon investigation, I've seldom found Groups.io to be the culprit but rather the holdup is typically down the line. Not all emails necessarily take the same path. It depends on dynamic conditions? in the cloud. They may route through different servers and each server may queue them dependent on load, etc. Some email services, rr.com in particular is notorious for delaying messages and even sending "convenient" status messages to cover their butt when they throttle users. AOL will also return a "server not responding when their own internal net link to the real internet overloads. -- Bob Bellizzi |
Re: Strange behavior
On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 01:12 PM, David Grimm wrote:
Today, I (owner of a group) received the Subscription Approval Needed email. I clicked on the link to 'View Pending Member' and Chrome opened up to the prospective member's listing. I clicked on 'Approve' and was taken to the membership list page. So far, so good. BUT... that list only showed 5 members: The member I just approved, the first member that signed up with the group before the transfer which was in February, 2018, myself and two moderators. So I followed the following sequence: 'Your Groups>(my group)>Admin>Members and the list shows the 978 members I expected to see, but not the new member I just approved.?David -- I really doubt that this is a bug, or it would have been reported a long time ago. You can change which members are displayed by pulling down the blue menu at upper left and selecting one of the other options (Members, Bouncing, Pending, Banned, etc).? If you click on the link in a "needing approval" email it defaults to the Pending view. Hope this helps, Bruce |
Re: I Can't Get My Group To Begin Transfer From Yahoogroups
On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 12:31 PM, CVActor wrote:
But now I can't make [email protected] a moderator, because the address comes up invalid. Also, the address is not listed as a member, and I can't add it, because it also comes up as invalid. I have tried writing to support - NO ANSWER. Will someone PLEASE help me to get my yahoogroup into the transfer group before the WHOLE THING DISAPPEARS?Cindy -- As Jules said, you have to go to your YAHOO GROUP and promote the agent to a Moderator there. Note that this requires you to be an Owner of the Yahoo Group, or a Moderator with special permissions. Full instructions with screenshots at?/g/GroupManagersForum/message/20713 Trying to add the transfer agent to your GIO group will not work. Regards, Bruce |
Re: Chat issues with Chrome Web Browser
On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 04:49 PM, Frank wrote:
Could you explain what is the reason why does not work in Chrome? Has anybody else encountered this problem?See?/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Chat-Overview Regards, Bruce |
Re: "Average Pace" of transfers
On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 04:22 PM, kruffing wrote:
I'm a data buff, when things quiet down I hope the GIO staff publish a cool table or graph about the volume of transfers they midwifed in October-December 2019.Yeah, I'd enjoy seeing something like that as well.? Maybe include other info, such as number of members, messages, files, etc, but that info may not be available.? Might be a good question for support in January.? After doing a bit of snooping on the site, I know that at least 2250 groups have been transferred, but not how many of those were recent. Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
Re: "Average Pace" of transfers
Thanks, Ray, for sharing your saga; it looks like you're on track to complete the transfer tomorrow or Monday, congratulations!
I agree you must've barely beat a deluge (and I didn't) on or about Oct. 20.? The price increase from $110 to $220 for premium, I think, happened on Oct. 22 and surely reflected the staggering workload.? I can't recall when the $200 "expedite" option became available. I'm a data buff, when things quiet down I hope the GIO staff publish a cool table or graph about the volume of transfers they midwifed in October-December 2019.? I assume that right now they don't have much time even to eat or shower. |
Re: current turnaround for invitation approval?
#invitation
On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 03:36 PM, JJ Krawczyk wrote:
That's it.? Thank you!I haven't done it, but it IS the weekend.? Probably won't make a lot of difference, but something to be aware of. Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
Re: Help! Problem migrating Yahoo group to Groups.io
#transfer
On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 03:51 PM, Nawdry wrote:
However, my Yahoo group no longer seems able to send invitations. I get the following error message:You may get your "power" back.? Yahoo has been doing many strange things recently.? One person has a suggestion that may possibly work, /g/GroupManagersForum/message/21985? If that doesn't work, you can see if another moderator on the YG can do it or upgrade your permissions so you can send invitations (and promote transfer to a moderator.)? The inviter/promoter doesn't need to be the same person doing the transfer. Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
Re: Following the YahooGroup transfer steps
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Will it cause a problem that I've made?[email protected]?a moderator before receiving the email notification that the invitation has been accepted?I doubt that it will be a problem. That being said, the advice from everyone is to go step by step. Frances -- FAQ on Moving from YahooGroups GMF Wiki: (unofficial) Help for members (and would-be members) and group managers |
Following the YahooGroup transfer steps
#transfer
So after issuing the invitation to [email protected]?to join the YahooGroup that I'm transferring, I see the invitation has been accepted and have promoted that address to moderator status on the old group. I have not however received an email from groups.io notifying me that the invitation has been accepted. When I go to the transfer page, it still says "We've received the invite to your group and will accept it soon..."? Will it cause a problem that I've made [email protected]?a moderator before receiving the email notification that the invitation has been accepted?
Hope that's clear. thanks, Katie |
Re: #subgroups Can I create an Invisible Subgroup?
#subgroups
On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 03:35 PM, Bee wrote:
Can I do this? ? If so - how??Probably.? Under the Admin menu on the left, after dropping it down, click Subgroups.? On the page that opens, select Create Subgroup at the top.? After entering the other information, select "Subgroup not listed in parent group, messages viewable by subgroup members only" in the Visibility area.? I haven't tried it, but that should do what you want.? You'd need to do the rest of the setup after creating it. Keep in mind that creating a subgroup changes the addressing of the main group, so members may be aware that one exists, but won't be able to find it unless they know the name.? See /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Why-use-a-Subgroup for additional information. Duane -- Help: /static/help GMF's Wiki: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Search button at the top of Messages list A few site FAQs: /static/pricing#frequently-asked-questions |
Re: "Average Pace" of transfers
Hi.? I almost feel guilty at posting this.? I have a medium sized group (~2,100 members, 80,000+ messages over 18 years), which we probably should have ported to groups.io long ago.? However, I started the transfer process just one day ahead of 'kruffing's' group below, and yet managed to secure a position much higher up the queue.? There must have been a huge influx of new transfer requests just on Sunday 10/20 alone.? Anyway, here's our brief pathway so far:
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Sat 10/19 - Created new group, obtained approval, paid $110 to upgrade to premium for one year, and intitiated transfer process.
Sun 10/20 - Invitation to [email protected] to join YG was accepted.? Did not have authority to promote to Moderator (grrr!). Tue 10/22 - Finally reached YG owner and was able to promote [email protected] to Moderator.? Gave green light for transfer to proceed. Wed 10/23 - Reached Step 3 of 4, meaning our Yahoo content had been exported, and was awaiting import to GIO.? Position #370 in the queue. Tue 10/29 - position #126 Thu 10/31 - position #70 Sat 11/02 - position #38 ?
I haven't been recording our position number every day, but three times I have seen it increase, instead of decrease.? Overall, it has taken about 10 days to progress 332 positions, without paying the extra $200.
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Sent:?Saturday, November 02, 2019 at 12:15 PM
From:?"kruffing via Groups.Io" <kruffing@...> To:[email protected] Subject:?Re: [GMF] "Average Pace" of transfers 20 to 30 a day seems a rough rule of thumb.? It's hard to gauge without knowing how many group owners are paying $200 to leapfrog the queue.? I didn't, and my little group's saga is below.
My understanding is that GIO "harvested" all material from our Yahoo site at Step 2, so any new material posted there won't be transferred.? That's okay.? Whenever I post I make sure to send it to both Groupname@...?and [email protected].? (Those are fake names, don't use 'em.)? And if another member posts and omits one or the other address, I send a perfunctory reply and make sure to send it to both.? It's a pain but tolerable.? My annoyance is confined to a perfidious Yahoo, not to the dedicated GIO team! Sat 10/19/2019 Alerted members of my group about Yahoo¡¯s plans and discussed options (Google groups. Groups.io, Facebook, plain email, dissolution).? People liked my description of Groups.io especially the ability to preserve ten years¡¯ worth of content. Sun 10/20/2019 Created group at Groups.io.? Signed up for Premium and paid $110 (which doubled two days later).? Sent invitation for [email protected] to join our Yahoo group.? Heard nothing. ?
Fri 10/25/2019 Invitation was finally accepted.? (Whether it was Sunday¡¯s or Thursday¡¯s, I don¡¯t know.)? I swiftly upgraded [email protected] to moderator and gave the go-ahead for transfer.
Sat 10/26/2019
Sun 10/27/2019 Finally progressed to step 3 of 4.? Place in queue #644.
Mon 10/28/2019 #633.
Tue 10/29/2019 #618.
Wed 10/30/2019 #584.
Thur 10/31/2019 #553.? "The pace does seem to be picking up but we¡¯re still looking at 2-4 more weeks if this continues."
Fri 11/1/2019 #543
Sat 11/2/2019 #521
(Caveat:? I didn't necessarily sample these at the same time of day, so interpret 'em accordingly.) |
Help! Problem migrating Yahoo group to Groups.io
#transfer
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHelp! My newly created group is LRPPro (/g/LRPPro). I recently upgraded to Premium to be able to migrate LRPPro from Yahoo () to Groups.io. I started the automated migration process, but
this stalled at the point where you have to send an invitation
to [email protected].
The process requires that this invitation be sent, you
wait to receive it, then proceed. However, my Yahoo group no
longer seems able to send invitations. I get the following error
message: Thanks ¡ª Lyndon |
Chat issues with Chrome Web Browser
Dear all,
We have been setting up a new group in order to transfer from Yahoo to Groups.io. We have been testing and learning all the features and we found very interesting the chat feature. We have tried to set up new chats and we succeded. However, when my colleague subscribed and we tried to chat, nothing appeared in chat. We tried several times and open several chats and nothing happened. Today I was trying again and suddenly I thought of testing it with another web browser. IE from Windows 10. It worked perfect. No problem at all. Could you explain what is the reason why does not work in Chrome? Has anybody else encountered this problem? We would very much appreciate any help that you can give us since the majority of our members use Chrome. Thank you very much Frank? |
Re: New Group Settings
On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 05:35 PM,I wrote:
I suggest that you communicate with your members again...Further to that you could try suggesting to those with btinternet email addresses that they send to any address with a "+" in it from BT's webmail UI, not their email client. I know that might be an ask too far for some but it does get around the problem of emails being misrouted when sent from a client. If you have a Pending Subsciption message set up, responding to that definitely does involve a +owner message that will go astray and frustrate the joining process. Signing up for an account or subscription does require confirmation emails between the applicants and Groups.io and I simply cannot recall if any of those have any + signs in them. As you have invited people you could really turn the Pending Subscription message off, at least pro tem. Chris |