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Hi,
So, if everything was collected at Step 2, then anything that is posted or anyone that joins after Step 2 won't get migrated.... That is something I missed somewhere on the journey.

When I saw the amount of groups in front of my group, I though that meant that when we got to Number 1, then that is when the entire process happened...

Given that there are still over 690 groups in front at the moment, our group is still operating and people are still joining, business as usual at present...

I take it I will need to keep track of any new joiners and invite them personally when we transfer.

Thanks
John.

I was just over on the PGO forums.? It seems the latest trial version will only allow you to download 1000 messages, along with some other limitations.? Still, $25 for peace of mind doesn't seem out of line.

Duane

Larry,

Since I already paid it, would it be possible to send the downloads of
the data to groups.io so that they can still do the transfer.

Earlier, it seems ages ago now, it was claimed that Groups.io support would import mbox format files on behalf of people transferring a list from Mailman or other "traditional" mailing list. That was strictly a manual process, and I don't recall hearing a reliable report of it actually being done. I wouldn't expect a positive response during the Yahoo frenzy.

Back to an earlier message:

I received a Yahoo Mail account, and I use it to log into all of my
groups. There are no issues with the email address or password. I can
log into the account. It's just that I have somehow lost my
privileges.

Is there a possibility that you have more than one email address listed in this account, and that the Crown is held by another one? Check for this by clicking on the Membership menu, and see if your email address is in a list you can select from.

The other possibility is that the crown is held by an email address associated with a different Yahoo Account. You can check for that with the Membership Wizard, but only if you know what that email address is and can add it to the Recovery list for this account.

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John,

Can anyone tell me why Groups.io blocks incoming messages from
external submitters and puts them in the Pending queue.

Exactly for the reason your Subject line supposes.

But we would like to be able to have the community emails not held in
the Pending queue.

The only way to have senders recognized as part of your "community" is to have them join the group. "Allow Non Subscribers to Post" means exactly that - anyone in the world.

We would like them to just flow to the group.

You could create an Email Integration and have them post to that address, but it is rather ungainly - intended for use with automated mailings, not human users.

We have a small group that provides advice to our community and only
those responding are members of the group.

People who post as non-subscribers do not receive any group messages. So presumably your group has the "Reply To" option set to "Sender" or "Group and Sender"? I actually haven't tested whether that works for non-subscribers.

Does it matter if community members can see the questions posted by other members, and the replies to them? If not one way to handle this would be to let the community members join the group to post and receive messages. You can set the group's "Default Sub Settings" so that their subscriptions would use the Advanced controls "Following Only" and "Auto-Follow Replies" - that would mean that only their own posts and its replies would be emailed to them. But they could still use the group's web page to see other members' posts, and they could change their subscription to receive All Messages.

If it does matter, another approach would be to allow the community to join the primary group, and make that an Announcement Group so that they cannot post there (but you could use it for general community announcements). Then use a subgroup for the advisors. You can set the subgroup so that primary group members can post to it without moderation, and also set it so that primary group members cannot read its messages. In the subgroup you'd sill need to set Reply To for "Sender" or "Group and Sender" in order for the community member to receive a reply from an advisor.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Why-use-a-Subgroup

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On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 12:29 AM, CVActor wrote:

I already agreed to pay more than that over the year

If you've already paid the $220 Annual Premium, your transfer will work.? If you want it to happen faster, you pay another $200 for the expedite fee.

Duane
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On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 12:19 AM, Su wrote:

If you add one to the subscription to a particular group, does that get added to whatever is already on your email?

Yes.? I usually work online, so it's handy to have a signature for each group.? If I used email, it would append the same thing as below when sent to this group.? (I have both enabled on all the groups I'm in, but don't have one set up for some of them.)? If I had a sig in my email client, it would also be there, just above this one.

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If you add one to the subscription to a particular group, does that get added to whatever is already on your email? Or will it replace any existing sig with that one?

Thanks,
Su

On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 11:15 PM, Vance Stevens wrote:

My question is, HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO GET THE EMAIL,

Vance -- This has lately been taking 1-3 days. It is not automated and requires human intervention (solving a "not a bot" CAPTCHA on the Yahoo Groups site).

Lately, Yahoo Groups has also been slow to allow the agent into the group even after the invitation is accepted. So you could run into that, too.?

Meanwhile, you might want to double-check that you have the proper permissions in the Yahoo Group to subsequently promote the agent to a Moderator. If you don't, find someone who can.

and if I don't receive it after that amount of time, what should I do then?

We will cross that bridge in the [unlikely] event that we come to it. Meanwhile, keep checking the status of your transfer (and any relevant comments here in GMF) periodically.

Regards,
Bruce

On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 11:10 PM, John Booth wrote:

Can anyone tell me why Groups.io blocks incoming messages from external submitters and puts them in the Pending queue.

John -- It's to keep malicious people from spamming all of the members of your group, directing them to phishing sites, and so on. The very reputation of groups.io as a mailing list service is also at stake...previous posts to beta demonstrate that Mark wants build and maintain the reputation of groups.io as a safe haven from abuses of this nature.

We have a small group that provides advice to our community and only those responding are members of the group. But we would like to be able to have the community emails not held in the Pending queue. We would like them to just flow to the group. Is there any way to do this?

There is no way to do this. If you examine the Spam Control section of Settings, you'll note that you must check at least one of the boxes. So at a minimum, you will end up manually approving either each individual subscription (Restricted group), or a new subscriber's first message (New User Moderated).?

Regards,
Bruce

I am at step 4 in the transfer process. I have completed steps 1-3

My question is, HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO GET THE EMAIL, and if I don't receive it after that amount of time, what should I do then?

1. Create your new Groups.io group and upgrade it to premium for a year.
2. Set up and start the transfer process by clicking the?Set Up New Transfer?button, below. You'll be asked to select your Groups.io group and for the name of your Yahoo Group.
3. Send an invite?from your Yahoo Group?to?[email protected]
4. We will accept the invite and then send you an email directing you to make the?[email protected]?member a moderator.
5. After you have made the?[email protected]?member a moderator, return here, select your?Existing Transfer?transfer, and tell us that you are ready for the transfer to happen.?Your group must be signed up for the Premium Yearly plan.

Thank you for your help,

Vance Stevens
Owner and Moderator

On 11/2/2019 10:04 PM, Bruce Bowman wrote:

On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 09:59 PM, Larry wrote:
I clearly need to have a way to parse these and reformat the output
to match groups.io. I was able to extract the email address using a
similar technique, but it was far simpler, and I don't know exactly
what groups.io needs. Is there a sample at groups.io of what the
upload file should look like to import messages.
Larry -- The groups.io interface provides no function that will allow you to import these messages to your group's message archive, all indexed, searchable and attributable to the original posters. Most folks doing a "manual" transfer have been printing old messages to a PDF or converting it to HTML and subsequently uploading the archive to the group's files area. Hopefully others can provide additional options.
Bruce

The mbox files could be imported into an email client such as Thunderbird and sent to the groups.io list as new messages from there.

This would lose the original author and datestamp, but the content would at least be browsable and searchable along with new messages to the group.

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Thanks for the further input, Donald. I already paid the one year fee thinking that I had to in order to transfer the group. Since I already paid it, would it be possible to send the downloads of the data to groups.io so that they can still do the transfer. Is the data they use for the transfer any different than the downloaded data?

Can anyone tell me why Groups.io blocks incoming messages from external submitters and puts them in the Pending queue. We have a small group that provides advice to our community and only those responding are members of the group. But we would like to be able to have the community emails not held in the Pending queue. We would like them to just flow to the group. Is there any way to do this?

Ian,

During the Automated Transfer process from Yahoo Groups to Groups.io,
does the photo or file DESCRIPTION content from my Yahoo Groups group
get automatically carried across to my Groups.io group

Yes they do.

I like Groups.io - it continues to keep getting better. Hope you can
offer a better deal for small *no $* hobby groups like ours,

There are options to paying for the Easy Yahoo Group Transfer, but those won't copy all of the data for you.
/g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/FAQ-on-Moving-from-Yahoo-Groups

If you can't spring for a transfer, you might consider PG Offline as a way to make sure your contents get archived before Yahoo Groups removes it from their servers. I think they've ended the Free Trial offer, but the license fee is reasonable as I recall.


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On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 08:31 PM, David Grimm wrote:

Any more ideas?

An obscure situation that has happened to others:? The person withdrew their request to join before you approved it.? Nothing gets logged anyplace because they weren't actually a member yet.? You may be able to verify this by contacting the "new member" via personal email.

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On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 08:31 PM, Mycenius wrote:

Is there any functionality to edit the date value on messages in the archive.

No, what comes from YG is what is used.? No way to edit those.

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