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Re: Introduction guide for subscribers
Monkern, Can I get your pdf? lloydlehrer@... lloyd lehrer, (310)[redacted]
[mod note: feel free to upload it to GMF's files, and/or copy/paste its content into a new page in our Wiki] On Wed, Aug 21, 2019, 8:31 AM mohnkern <mohnkern@...> wrote:
It's definitely a good start, but still a bit intimidating for some users.? I wrote a 2 page "here's what Groups.io, and here's the basic functionality and how it works."? I'll see what reaction is within my organization, and if so, put it up here. |
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Re: Introduction guide for subscribers
Chris,
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... but I might argue that it is aimed at Owner & Moderators rather than Subscribers, who might find the whole thing a bit daunting. The GMF wiki has a lot of content around what Owners and Moderators can do, much of which is not available to "ordinary" members. ?
The first two sections, Quick-Start Guide and Advice to Group Members, are supposed to be aimed squarely at the non-moderator members of our groups.
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That said, I'm open to suggestions akin to Frances' idea for more clearly delineating the target audience of the sections. Would horizontal rules across the page be enough of a visual clue? Maybe we should try that or something similar.
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I'm even open to the possibility that those two sections should be broken out into a separate wiki "home" page for members. Well, not literally a second wiki "home" page, since that's not an available feature. So I'm unsure what the best path forward would be.
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My main concern is that moving those sections to their own page might effectively hide them, no matter how prominently we make the link "Here's info for group members" on the home page. Maybe that's not too big a concern, as group moderators who want to provide that info to their members would pass along a link to that separate page rather than the GMF wiki home page.
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The other obvious option would be to keep the member info on GMF's home page, and move the Best Practices for Group Management section off to a secondary page. I'm not fond of that idea because I suspect that most GMF members actually need the Best Practices pages more often.
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A third approach is the same as the first, but leaving the GMF home page as is. The downside is that the duplication of effort involved in adding links to any new member-specific pages to both "home" pages.
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Re: Introduction guide for subscribers
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Could we create a new home page pointing to one page for members and one page for owners and moderators? Just divide the two parts. Or does Groups.io allow 2 wikis for one group? The 2-pager that mohnkern mentions could be part of the members¡¯ section. Frances -- /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki ( /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki ) /static/help More help: use the search button at the top of the Messages list. |
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Re: Introduction guide for subscribers
Barbara Jean,
As Bruce cited, it is a collaborative web site. The name wiki has a somewhat . Specific to Groups.io, it is an optional web feature of a group (like files and photos) where group members can contribute content. In this case, content in the form of a collection of mutually editable web pages. When visiting GMF's web pages you'll find the link to our Wiki at the bottom of the navigation list in the left column. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: Introduction guide for subscribers
On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 10:48 AM, Barbara Jean Jasen wrote:
Pardon me for being a dummy, but just what is wiki?? ·É¾±¡¤°ì¾±
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a website that allows collaborative editing of its content and structure by its users.
The classic example of this is -- The system Help is your friend.??/static/help |
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Re: Introduction guide for subscribers
Pardon me for being a dummy, but just what is wiki?? I have been working on computers for many years, but it seems there is always something new that I am not familiar with. Barbara Jean On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 7:12 AM Frances <frances@...> wrote: Well the wiki has a quick start section plus advice to group members. You don't have to be a member of this group or even Groups.io to read it. |
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Re: Introduction guide for subscribers
On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 09:51 AM, mohnkern wrote:
I've been trying to find an online guide for groups.io for subscribers...There is no formal "Intro to Groups.io" document, but rumor has it that one is in the works (ref:?).?Meanwhile,?I agree with Frances that?the GMF wiki?is likely to be your best resource at this time. It contains a lot of useful information not found in?the system Help.? Regards, Bruce |
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Re: Introduction guide for subscribers
Well the wiki has a quick start section plus advice to group members. You don't have to be a member of this group or even Groups.io to read it.
Perhaps the Group Management section should be more split off from these. Even graphically. /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/home The Wiki is jointly maintained by volunteers (including me from time to time). Perhaps you could take a look and see what sections you think it needs.? Frances -- /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki /static/help More help: use the search button at the top of the Messages list. |
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Re: Randomly can't email a list I'm the Admin for from Gmail
#notworking
#bouncedemails
Karen,
I did the analysis and have pasted it below if it's useful.Not too much, but it confirms that Groups.io rejected the attempt by your email service to deliver the message. From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <mailer-daemon@...>This is typical of cases where the sending service is unable to deliver the message. The response from the remote server was:That response was from Groups.io's inbound server. That's distinct from the kind of failures where your service couldn't find Groups.io (in the DNS directory) or couldn't connect to Groups.io. Most of Groups.io's error responses are far more informative, This one is sort of a catch-all for unusual cases. Do report this to [email protected], including at least the section of the "show original" starting with the From: line I quoted down through the 500 error. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: How to transfer Yahoo Group to io when original owner of Yahoo group has died
#transfer
Michael,
As moderator, I cannot invite the new member to the Yahoo group thatMore important than the "Invite and add members" privilege, is "Add, remove, and change moderator privileges", but I'll hazard a guess that if you don't have the former, you probably don't have the latter either. One way to find out is to go to the Manage Members page, switch to the Moderators tab, and click on your own row, anywhere to the right of the green crown. If you get an Edit Member pop-up dialog you're golden: give yourself all the Moderator Privileges and Save the dialog. If nothing happens, you're out of luck. Failing that... How can I transfer members of a Yahoo group where I am a moderator?You can export the Manage Members list, then use a program like Excel to extract the email addresses and format them in a way suitable for use with Groups.io's Direct Add or Invite page. /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki/Direct-Add-From-Yahoo You can upgrade your group to Premium for one month in order to use the Direct Add feature. You may find that more convenient than Invite, especially if there are a large number of members in your Y!Group. Speaking of which, if your group has more than 1000 members the Y!Group export won't do. You can try the chrome app from YahooGroupedia: There's also an app to export your group's Messages. Another option is PG Offline: These options won't allow you to get your Y!group's content (messages, files, photos, etc.) into your Groups.io group, but they can help with the members. And at least you can have an offline copy of some of the content as a backup. Shal -- Help: /static/help More Help: /g/GroupManagersForum/wiki Even More Help: Search button at the top of Messages list |
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Re: Photos
Photos Permissions must be set on the Settings page before they are available.? There are several options, all pretty much self explanatory.
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Photos
I have two groups that I own.? I am getting questions from members about how can they upload photos to the group.? I notice in the groups that I own there is a box for create album, but in the groups that I am simply a member I don't have that box.? How can members upload photos to the group?
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