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Re: Secondary Email

 

On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 06:11 PM, Marcio wrote:
The question is: if you wasn't using the old email anymore how could you change it without any confirmation or something like that?
I'd like to have these steps in case I ever need them.
Marcio -- Instructions on how to do this can be found in the system help at?/static/help#changeemail. To complete the process, you do have to confirm the new email address, but nothing is sent to the old one.

Hope this helps,
Bruce
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Re: Secondary Email

 

On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 04:23 PM, Marcio wrote:
Is there any way of associating another email, apart from our first one, to the same account?
No. In groups.io, your email address is your account identifier.

You can create a second address (specifically, an alias) from which you can?send messages. To do that, go to?/account?and click open the section labeled "Advanced Settings for Email Aliases." But even if you do that, all group messages will still be?received at your primary address.?

If it's not possible yet, could it be a feature to be requested? Do you see any value on it?
It's certainly been requested before. It would require an "account identifier" that is distinct and separate from any email address(es) associated with that account, and perhaps the currently inactive username field could serve that purpose. My personal opinion is that the existing account and subscription settings seem to cause enough confusion without introducing another level of abstraction.

Hope this helps,
Bruce
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Re: Secondary Email

Marcio
 

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Barbara,
Do you still know the username and password of the old e-mail address?
Hmmm, I don't think I have.
Actually, I don't remember ever setting up any username, all I did was to create my account with my email. Is it my username then?
And, even in the event of Yahoo stop working, will it be enough to just put this email and I'll be logged in?

Thanks for your help, and sorry for too many questions!

Cheers,
AKA Starboy

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.


Re: Secondary Email

 

Do you still know the username and password of the old e-mail address?? That should be all you need to reactivate it.
Barbara Jean

On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 3:11 PM Marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21=[email protected]> wrote:
Barbara,
As for the yahoo groups that I had at the time it was no problem to change my e-mail address in the groups.
The question is: if you wasn't using the old email anymore how could you change it without any confirmation or something like that?
I'd like to have these steps in case I ever need them.

Please? :)

Cheers,
AKA Starboy

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.


Re: Secondary Email

Marcio
 

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Barbara,
As for the yahoo groups that I had at the time it was no problem to change my e-mail address in the groups.
The question is: if you wasn't using the old email anymore how could you change it without any confirmation or something like that?
I'd like to have these steps in case I ever need them.

Please? :)

Cheers,
AKA Starboy

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.


Re: Secondary Email

 

I don't know about what you are asking, but about 9 years ago someone got into my yahoo mail account and I switched to using gmail after that.? As for the yahoo groups that I had at the time it was no problem to change my e-mail address in the groups.
Barbara Jean

On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 1:23 PM Marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
Sorry for the subject, couldn't think of anything better. If anyone can edit it... :)

Now here's the question:
Is there any way of associating another email, apart from our first one, to the same account?
The reason I'm asking it is that I'm using a Yahoo email, as you can see, and I'm afraid that someday Yahoo can just stop working and I'll lose my groups subscription, including groups where I'm a mod/owner.

If it's not possible yet, could it be a feature to be requested? Do you see any value on it?

As always, thanks for any and all help.

Cheers,
AKA Starboy

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.


Re: Concerning Databases

 

To Ingrid, via Virginia,
I have not had missing rows as an observable result of timing out.
It seems as if my login is timed out the the database process seems to always complete correctly as long as all the characters are utf-8 compatible.

The 'Missing Rows', which may also be partial rows are often the result of invalid characters.
Databases require only utf-8? characters.? Any other characters may cause a row to be truncated or other, unpredictable results, dependent of the actual character.
So, my initial checking involves.
  1. A visual scan of the Database in situ.
  2. Check the ID of the last row.? I always try to set up my database using a "zero row starter" json file with the row count set to zero and the initial row set to 1.
  3. Export the rows only to a .CSV file
    1. compare the row count to the original .CSV file row count.
    2. compare the total byte count for original and output .CSV files.
Because my file is a reference file of corneal specialists, it is rather dynamic and change often.
It also has input field names that don't match the output requirements of groups,io's Databases so my query below renames the columns and combines/and or inserts field as needed.? (Adds the MD,? Merges First & Last names into a single field,etc)
So I built an Access database that allows me to make bulk additions and uses a form to make individual adjustments in addresses, etc.
Access also enabled me to build a query that I use for output which also has a template for generating the utf-8 .CSV output file I need for input.


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Secondary Email

Marcio
 

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Hi,
Sorry for the subject, couldn't think of anything better. If anyone can edit it... :)

Now here's the question:
Is there any way of associating another email, apart from our first one, to the same account?
The reason I'm asking it is that I'm using a Yahoo email, as you can see, and I'm afraid that someday Yahoo can just stop working and I'll lose my groups subscription, including groups where I'm a mod/owner.

If it's not possible yet, could it be a feature to be requested? Do you see any value on it?

As always, thanks for any and all help.

Cheers,
AKA Starboy

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.


Apparently An Inconsistency When Searching Through Groups.io's Archive

Marcio
 

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Hi,
First, I'd like to preface it by saying that it's likely a question more to screen readers users (as I am).
That being said, though, if anyone can reproduce it or tell me why that is it will be very appreciated.

Second, it's a bit long, so have patience :)

Let's go.
Using:
  • Firefox
  • NVDA
Steps to reproduce:
  1. Open the messages page of a group, which is /g/[groupname]/messages
  2. Activate the "search button".
Here's the thing. I've noticed? that, doing it, I'm presented with a very strange edit field which NVDA reports as "MSG". I couldn't figure out how it's different from the "search" field, but keep reading.

Steps to reproduce (2)
  1. Open a group home page, which is /g/[groupname]
  2. Click on "Messages"
  3. Activate the search button
Now here's the thing again. Doing this, it's possible to see the "search" edit field, as it should be in the first place.

In other words:
When we open the Messages page directly, activating the "Search button", apparently the "Search" field is being displayed as something else. Plus, there are also a few buttons, some of them by the way NVDA will report as just "button", with no label at all.
Now, if we open a group home page, clicking on Messages and activating the "Search" button, everything is displayed as it should.

Thoughts?

As always, thanks for any and all help :)

Cheers,
AKA Starboy

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.


Re: Truncated email addresses when included in an email

 

On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 05:10 AM, UK-CAB Moderator wrote:
does this impact both in posts and username?
In my test, if they haven't set a Display Name or User Name, then their email address is displayed online at the top of posts.

Duane
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Re: sub-groups

TDSWC
 

We have several sub groups all beneath the main group.? The main group is where people register and then we Direct Add members of the sub groups.? The main group is not used apart from announcements.

The only problem we have is where a message is sent to two sub groups as some people get it twice but there is no easy way round that.

Tony

MAIN
- members
- committee
- trustees
- instructors


Re: Truncated email addresses when included in an email

 

I joined this group to ask the same question, can I check if you 'do not mask emails' does this impact both in posts and username??


Re: sub-groups

 

Without knowing the background and implications, which would drive practicality, but an alternative I would suggest is to have a second sub-group (to the main group), with restricted membership (i..e needing approval) - and the basis for approving membership would be membership of the first sub-group: which is obviously going to have to be managed manually.

Jeremy


Re: Introduction guide for subscribers

 

Ken,


Why not the home page being a (hate to use this term) TOC, pointing toward ¡°mods/owners¡± or ¡°advanced¡± and ¡°dummies¡±?? That's how our wiki is evolving.?

That's how I think of the wiki home page now: a hand-built TOC for the group's pages. The Quick Start section is about as far as I think we should go in terms of segregating "basic" from "advanced" information. I did add some horizontal rules to that page to help distinguish member oriented content from mod/owner oriented content.

All this talk of the wiki home page made me think of the GMF's home page. So I added a paragraph there to help guide newbies to the wiki and messages sections. Hopefully these tweaks will prove helpful.

Shal

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Re: Concerning Databases

 

Bob and Duane,

you answered the 3 questions concerning databases which I posed in behalf of my moderator Ingrid who is in charge of databases. I returned your answers to her. Her English isn?t very good, and she is blind. So here is what she writes concerning your answers:
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many thanks for the answers to my three questions about the Databases!

As far as the double columns "Title" and "Description" are concerned, I have found the solution myself in the meantime: I didn't know that the Link itself already creates three columns, and I didn?t know how I could remove the remaining two columns. The three symbols above the columns are not audible to the blind, nor is there an audible description of them. So I had to rely on a seeing person to explain this to me.

As far as the IDs which remain empty are concerned, it has been explained to me in the meantime that their is no other way for technical reasons.

But as far as the missing rows when uploading whole tables are concerned, I have not made any progress yet. But if I understand correctly, it could be related to the uploading? import time.
Thanks
Ingrid
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Victoria


Re: sub-groups

 

thanks...that was my thought. i'll encourage them to use hashtags to allow for communications that not everyone will want to be bothered with.

thank you!
jean


On Wednesday, August 21, 2019, 3:31:51 PM EDT, Duane <txpigeon@...> wrote:


On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 02:17 PM, Jean Guevara wrote:
Can a subgroup have a subgroup?
That's not (currently) an option.

Duane
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Re: Introduction guide for subscribers

 

Why not the home page being a (hate to use this term) TOC, pointing toward ¡°mods/owners¡± or ¡°advanced¡± and ¡°dummies¡±? ?That's how our wiki is evolving.?


Re: sub-groups

 

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 02:17 PM, Jean Guevara wrote:
Can a subgroup have a subgroup?
That's not (currently) an option.

Duane
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sub-groups

 

I think I already know the answer to this, but I wanted to ask to be sure. Can a subgroup have a subgroup?

Our group has a subgroup that wants to now further split into another subgroup...but only within the subgroup, not the main group.
Thanks,
Jean


Re: Introduction guide for subscribers

 

Monkern, Can I get your pdf? lloydlehrer@...

lloyd lehrer, (310)[redacted]


[mod note: feel free to upload it to GMF's files, and/or copy/paste its content into a new page in our Wiki]

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019, 8:31 AM mohnkern <mohnkern@...> wrote:

It's definitely a good start, but still a bit intimidating for some users.? I wrote a 2 page "here's what Groups.io, and here's the basic functionality and how it works."? I'll see what reaction is within my organization, and if so, put it up here.

(It's a PDF)

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