开云体育

Loretta,
I really appreciate your response. As I said in my post directed to you, I did not believe that you were intentionally trying to hurt me. The concept of Neutrality is something I have been exploring lately. My practice of it was seriously halted when I read your original post. And now that I've had a day to reflect on it, I thank you for providing me with an opportunity to more deeply practice that principal in my life. After reading your original post, I became infuriated. You are right. It did push some of my buttons. And I do mean MY buttons. I will own that. I often have trouble being content with myself and what I am choosing without feeling the need to "prove" something to someone. And in your original post, I felt like you were offering me information that I already know and have made great leaps and bounds to implement into my life, in order to heal from cancer. So, I reacted. And all day I felt it, physically.

A few hours after I read it, I nearly fainted because I had wasted sooo much energy being upset. The lymph nodes in my neck that were once inflamed with cancer (which I have not had any discomfort with in months) began to throb and cause me pain. And I became so tired I had to lay on my couch for nearly 3 hours before I could stand up without feeling light-headed. I have heard that harboring "resentment" is like ingesting poison and expecting the other person to die. Today I was the living testimonial for that saying. Today was just more proof that our emotions absolutely DO directly affect our bodies and I thank you for providing me with the opportunity to remember that. It is important for my health that I stay neutral. Thank you for sharing much of your story with me and the group. And now, for my own well-being, if you do not mind, I will try to approach and respond to your latest post in as neutral a way as I can. I will also explain some of my story so that you need not worry or become "concerned" about me and the way I am handling my treatment. Although I do appreciate the concern. I think it will benefit myself, the group and possibly you.

You wrote, "I am truly concerned when it takes anyone with active cancer six months to implement the protcol."

-The cancer that I was diagnosed on 9/5/07 has not been "active" for a little while now. I have been in remission for the last 6 months. Upon diagnosis, I did MUCH to heal myself. I immediately quit smoking and ingesting mind-altering substances like heard alcohol and marijuana. I eliminated sugar, caffeine, dairy, bread, animal products and anything NOT organic. I threw away all household products that were not natural. Switched from anti-perspirant to "Toms Natural Deoderant". Quit my stressful job, kicked out my stressful roomate, moved in my amazingly supportive boyfriend and simply stopped talking to anyone who was not totally confident and positive about not only my healing, but about their lives as well.

Began meditating for an hour every day and visualizing my body
perfectly healed and whole. Even went online and looked at pictures of healthy bone scans and mammograms so that I could more easily see what it is I was aiming for. Began to go to a Qi Gong Healer. I bought a juicer and began to juice veggie and fruit juice. Began to drink Green Tea all day. I gave up my OBSESSIVE WORRYING habits which I believe contributed greatly to developing cancer at such a young age (I used to stay up at night worrying that each ache and pain I had was cancer - from the age of about 8 years old - learned how to worry from my wonderfully neurotic Jewish mother.) Gave up contact with my mother for 4 months, until I became neutral with her after much inner healing around our relationship took place within me - totally alone.

Learned how to relax and enjoy sunsets, laugh and play and figure out how to create happiness. Took time to learn guitar and write and paint. Realized I had never learned how to become happy. Was stuck in survival mode in life. It is all I saw growing up and therefore all I knew. Dived in deep into exploring my spirituality and belief system pertaining to "God". Got clear on my intention for being here on this planet. And much more. I did all this instinctively.

I had not heard of the BP at that time. I simply KNEW what to do to get better and had faith that although a "CURE" was not something that was commonplace, that I would somehow, someway do it, simply because I desired it. Never gave up hope. Did 6 months of intense chemo, until I decided to stop, for good, based on research coupled with my intuition. Followed my heart and soul and 7 months ago approximately found the BP and KNEW it was for me. So, I did alot. And when you expressed concern, it was not based on what you knew about me. So, I felt judged and misunderstood.

You wrote, "I didn't jump up and sing "Glory" either because I had a huge victim mentality. Why me? Thankfully I had a natural health doc who "taught" me how to be thankful for absolutely everything that comes into my life---yes, even cancer..."

- I am glad that you had a doctor to help guide you to that realization Loretta. I did not. The idea of being thankful for everything that comes our way is something I am in agreement with and believe fully and whole-heartedly. I have never once said "why me". I
have always been more than greatful for the gift of cancer in my life. It has been my greatest teacher. And if you look back into the posts a few weeks, you will notice that I actually wrote a HUGE one on just that subject, which I'm sure some people were not in agreement with. But that is ok. That is their journey and I trust their process just as I trust my own. After ending up in AA at 17, having an abortion at 15, being left by my father at 5 months old, being born to a crazy neurotic toxic mother, almost dying from a cocaine overdose at 16, having to move out at 18 and pay bills and not be able to go to college even though I graduated with honors, surviving a rare disease at 5 yrs called Cat Scratch Fever (yes, just like the song :)) and having gone through many other scary life challenges, all before the age of 25, I decided LONG AGO that this is not all a cruel joke and have used every single thing in my life for my upliftment and growth. I regret nothing and LOVE, unconditionally, myself and others, in spite of all my reasons I've been given not to.

So, I felt preached to when you said that. I felt that I was being viewed as complaining. I was not. I simply had a moment of weekness. Which I am entitled to. And you know what, so are you.

You wrote, "I completely understand the perception of being inconvenienced. However, I get concerned when those with cancer do not take a break in order to allow their body to heal."

-I did take a break to allow myself to heal. By saying you were concerned when people do not take that break, I felt you were uninformed. I took a year-long break. Most of that time spent in my apartment, trying to heal from cancer, researching cancer, trying to eat right for cancer, not hangin with negative people for cancer. Are you catching the jist here? My point being, when I discussed that I am now ready to go out into the world, what you may not know about me is that going out at this point in my life is absolutely the most healing thing that I can do for myself. I have taken a break from life. Actually completely and happily abandoned my old life, and now, after much prayer and meditation, have intuitively concluded that it is best for me to take a break from cancer. To MOVE ON. To go out. TO be with people. To LIVE. I took a wonderful walk in the woods the other day. I came to the trees with a question. I asked why the tumor in my breast was not gone yet. I know that it is either dead, encapsulated or scar tissue. But I wanted to know what I was still holding onto that was preventing me from releasing it fully. And nature answered, clearly and loudly. It said "You have already been healed. It is you who are holding you back. You continue to ask for what has already been granted.". That rang true for me. So, for me, it is important that I ask once, and then go about my life as if my wish has been granted, with gratefullness and joy. So, my next step in implementing this is to GO OUTSIDE MY APARTMENT. I hope this is useful for you. What may not look like healing to you could be just perfect for someone else. I implore you to keep that in mind when
responding to other people in the future.

You wrote, "In my opinion, notice I said "my" opinion, I think that it is possibly a mistake to try to keep living the lifestyle you are used to. I think it makes it difficult to implement the changes that are needed in order to heal. "

-Once again, you were simply not informed that I was not and am not keeping the life that made me ill in the first place. I completely agree with this statement. But in response to my original post, there was absolutely nothing that I said about staying stuck in an old pattern. It is you who somehow interpreted my longing to be outside as a desire to continue my old life.

You wrote, "but before we allow ourselves to get angry or hurt by a post, let's remember that possibly someone else may have benefited or needed that post."

-And lastly, Loretta. I am in agreement with you once more. I took much of what you said as if it were directed at me in particular. And maybe it was not, maybe it was. I am happy these conversations took place because it appears as though MANY people have benefitted from them. So, in conclusion, I really respond well to people when they stay on point with what I am asking for. If I ask for life advice or a new way of looking at a situation, then please, by all means, give me that. But when I ask for something simple like ideas on how to keep to my protocol outside of my home, please stick to that. I felt in your first post and in this one that you were making presumptions about me that were not true. I do not appreciate it. Now that you know a little more about me, I hope it will be easier for you not to be concerned. Because I am doing well and I am on my perfect path.

Thank you.
Much Peace and Love :)

Melanie,

I have been growing wheatgrass in my kitchen for several years now and
sprouting all kinds of seeds for my salads. You'll find absolutely
everything you need - including detailed information and instructions -
at my favorite sprouting website:
Wonderful people to do business with!

As for drying the sprouted wheat, I have not tried it yet, so I cannot
speak to that..

Good luck!

Elaine


"Melanie King" wrote:

I have A LOT of wheat. Can I use sprout this to make wheat grass for

juicing? And can I dehydrate it and make my own sprouted grain bread? Anybody have experience with this?

Pete wrote:

4. Ground flax seeds can be mixed with honey (see linomel recipe in
files). My understanding is that the honey seals the ground seeds and
nothing is lost. (I would like someone's confirmation of that if
possible too)

Hi Pete,
You are right with this.

Below is information from page 22 of "Flax Oil as a True Aid.."

"A few words about flax seed because the risks involved are high. The
optimal fats are, of course, the most oxygen-active ones. When flax
seed is rough-ground, the beneficent fatty acids, that is the
threefold unsaturated ones, the very best ones, will spoil
rapidly-within 10 to 15 minutes. And if you rough-ground flax seed
from a health food store, by the time you get it home, its goodness
has been destroyed and the oxidation waste products are harmful,
particularly so, the older they are. Caution is advised with flax
seed. There is one product which contains honey as a preservative. And
I feel that flax seed products which contain honey as preservatives
for the rough-ground flax seed are always the best."

Georgeta

Hi everyone...

I was recently turned onto the Budwig protocol by a friend who
suggested it. My mom was diagnosed with early stage lung cancer.

I'm trying to convince my mom to adopt the diet and lifestyle change,
but she is having some difficulty.

I have read some recipes and checked the files area, and wanted to ask
a question:

I have seen reference to FO/CC, and want to try to add these into a
smoothie type recipe. I also see that ground flax seed is usually added.

Is there anything "wrong" or undesirable about just combining the
FO/CC with some fruit and honey and making that only into a smoothie
or does it have to include ground flax seed as well?

My mom (and I, just to see what it was like) tried the FO/CC by itself
and it was difficult to stomach. I'd like to sweeten it a bit and see
if that is better for her to handle.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

PS - As I will be making this recipe for her and bringing it to her
house, I'd like something that can possibly be made or stored by her
for a day, or even part of a day.

Thanks everyone and best of health to all!
Marty

"fredg1943" wrote:

I went through PC radiation in Loma Linda, CA, completed in April 2004
and then put on hormone treatment for 2 years. New tech radiation
treatment is spreading across the USA and Europe. Results have been

good up to now. I am drinking Pomergranate juice daily and am
considering the Flax Seed support for immune system. Is there anyone
out there that has used the Flax Seed treatment following radiation.

Hello and Welcome,

We have many members who have followed Dr. Budwig's full protocol,
which is more than flaxseeds alone, for various kinds of cancer and who
have become cancer free. As a new member, you should have automatically
received the "Introduction to the Budwig Protocol" which gives you an
outline of the plan. You can also read our files for more information
and for testimonial letters from our members. Several letters are about
prostate cancer survivors. See Folder 6.


Best wishes,
Sandra

I got my order in about five days after ordering it by e mail. I was astonished.
Jennifer

Melanie

You can regrow the wheatgrass for the 2nd time.

Can use kelp fertilizer.

With love and blessings

Dear Rhoda and everyone,

Please kindly help let me know if cottage cheese fat free is good and in case we use yogurt to replace cottage cheese, can we use the one w/ sugar? is yogurt w/out sugar better?

Thank you so mucb,
Ann

First of all, I really, really hope that none of us will make this thread a
"side-taking" event. That is not what we are here for nor is it beneficial.
If you have words (good or bad) for me, then please write personally. :o)
For those that have been on this list for a while, you know that I am a
cheerleader for absolutely everyone that is choosing to take responsilbity
for their health and thus willing to do what it takes to get well. My reply
was not meant to harm, chastise or offend but only to encourage. I am truly
concerned when it takes anyone with active cancer six months to implement
the protcol.

None of us really know each other (only from what we write) but I do know
exactly what it is like to get a cancer diagnosis at age 45 (still young),
go through major surgery, then chemo and hope and pray (every single minute
of every single day) to get well. I didn't jump up and sing "Glory" either
because I had a huge victim mentality. Why me? Why was my dh and dd, my
Mom and Dad, my sister having to be put through this ordeal? At that time I
would have definitely agreed that "cancer sucks!" Thankfully I had a
natural health doc who "taught" me how to be thankful for absolutely
everything that comes into my life---yes, even cancer and even what the
world perceives as something ever so bad---young or old. Believe me when I
say how tough that was to learn and that I was a slow learner. I also jumped
back at him saying "Yeah, right!! It will be a cold day when that happens,
for sure! Why would anyone in their right mind be thankful for cancer???
It's NOT fair!" I couldn't believe it when he said I should be thankful for
cancer and I looked at him like he had just fallen out of a tree. I was
angry and offended that he even suggest this and I wondered if I had made a
mistake in choosing him to be my doc! He just smiled and continued to lead
me in the direction of thankfulness. He knew that my thoughts needed to be
healed just as much as my body.

Everyone that finds this lis has been most definitely given a gift in being
led to the BP. It is a gift that many will not accept even though it is put
right in front of them. Everyone has to make the choice as to whether to
accept it or reject it and while "luck" may not have been the perfect word
to use (it was much too late last night to be typing a post---I saw all the
typos this morning <sigh>), it is still a gift. Everything happens for a
reason and there is no happenstance in life. We can fight what comes our
way (as in toxic thinking and emotions) or we can realize that there are
leasons that need to be learned and thus to be thankful to learn them. It's
our choice---we can look at what comes our way in a positive manner or a
negative manner.

I have stood, walked and ran in your shoes. Being a stage 3 colon cancer
survivor of almost 7 years, I know exactly what cancer patients go through
both from a conventional point of view and a natural point of view. I am
quite familiar with the talk and the walk of the cancer patient. I really
do understand the frustrations and the uncertainties and have listened to
all the "what ifs", "whys", "how comes", "yeah, rights", "you just don't
understands", "why me", etc. I also realize how debilitating these words
and thoughts, that continually swirl around in the mind of most cancer
patients, can be---mainly because they instigate "fear." Fear is paralyzing
and causes us to make decisions too quickly, to live in a state of
indecision, to make unjustified judgements, to be angry and to continually
make up scenarios which can literally make one crazy! It can also cause
actions that, in the long, run may prove harmful.

FEAR = False Evidence Appearing Real

Like many on this list, I also watched people stand around with their arms
folded, just waiting for my natural treatment not to work so they could
remind me how ridiculous it was for even considering this route. My cancer
doc was a chiropractor, so you can imagine the eyebrows that were
raised...especially when I chose not to continue with my oncologist/chemo
who was affilated with MD Anderson...right here in my own backyard. Some
still have their arms crossed to this very day. But, you know what? That
is their "junk"....not mine, nor is it yours. We cannot control people's
thoughts nor should we even want to waste time on that. I knew, in my
heart, that the path God had put me on would lead to my healing. I had to
block out the negatives and allow the positives. Very, very difficult for
me to do as I had to learn to not allow people's negative reactions or words
to take hold. This meant actually separating myself from one of my very
best friends.

The path to wellness is often very lonely and one that is less traveled
because for most the "risks" seem to great. It is difficult to "think
ouside the box" but I have found that there is definitely more truth outside
the box than inside the box. The docs that help people to heal naturally
are even more lonely because they are ridiculed, called quacks and made to
feel inferior because their "path" supposedly has no scientific
backing....that same scientific backing that has provided no cure for cancer
or any other degenerative disease.

We are all on this group for different. Some are here to learn about the
protocol for family members or patients (as I am), some are here in order to
implement a preventative protocol but most are here to heal (mind, body and
spirit) from active cancer and to learn how to not only get well, but more
improtantly, to stay well.

I had to change my whole out-look on life in order to get well. I was
counseled to be very aware of my words and to deal with emotions that I
didn't even know that I had. Every cancer patient has toxic
emotions/thoughts whether they admit it or not. Our cells know when we are
lying to ourselvs and this lying promotes conflict within the body. We have
been led to believe that cancer is always a death sentence and there are
just no cures. It is exactly these thoughts, played over and over in our
mind, that can keep us from healing completely.

I learned to be thankful that I had the opportunity to experience natural
healing. I learned to be thankful for everything that I put in my mouth.
We even took a vacation, during my protocol and I took all my "parafanalia"
with me. When we got to our destination, we headed for the nearest Whole
Foods in order to purchase food. When we ate out, I chose salads and baked
potatoes. I made necessary preparations, in advance, so that I could enjoy
our vacation. I was literally doing my protocol 24 hours a day---even when
sleeping as that is when the body is in repair mode. I completely
understand the perception of being inconvenienced. However, I get concerned
when those with cancer do not take a break in order to allow their body to
heal. Even Dr. Lorraine Day recommends this---she healed from breast
cancer. She suggests taking a whole year off to allow the body, mind and
spirit to heal. During this time we need to be a little selfish and
continually work on ourselves. For Moms, this is especially difficult. For
those who are used to very active lifestypes, it is difficult to just stop.
However, quite possibly it is very necessary piece to the healing puzzle. I
know people who have left stressful jobs, walked away from a stressful
marriage, ended toxic friendships and halted absolutely anything in their
life that caused stress. They realized how important it was, that while
healing, to get stress out of their lives. When the body is experiencing
dis-ease then it is time to re-evaluate absolutely everything, including
lifestyle.

In my opinion, notice I said "my" opinion, I think that it is possibly a
mistake to try to keep living the lifestyle you are used to. I think it
makes it difficult to implement the changes that are needed in order to
heal. Stress can cause cancer and most people lead lives that are full of
stress. Just an idea to "chew" on.

We are the only ones that can allow hurt and the feeling of being
"unsupported" to come into our life. These are our own perceptions but not
necessarily the whole truth. Possibly I touched on some areas that are
still emotionally raw. But, please know that I have never, ever written a
post on this forum with intent to hurt, anger, deceive or offend. However,
I will always be honest and will not sugar-coat. And while I was answering
your post, I was also very well aware of others that might need to hear what
I was writing.

I am not juding or lecturing, but trying to offer help from my experience as
a cancer patient and from experience in dealing with cancer patients. I
encourage everyone to come up with ways and ideas in order to be able to do
the protocol every single day. I encourage you to say no to
situations/activities that will possibly compromise whether or not you can
do your program effectively, knowing and believing that this is only for a
season. I would certainly encourage you to do relaxing activities like
going to the beach, but if any activity will compromise your protocol then I
would suggest putting the protocol first and foremost.

Some of the other members have given excellent suggestions. However, I
sensed a little more in your email. Your comment about "I don't see the
purpose of healing from cancer, if I have to be chained to a 2 miles radius
for the rest of my life. Frankly, I'd rather not be here if that is the
case" came across as something that really needed to be addressed because
others may, deep inside, feel the same way. I read into this "resentment".
If I got this wrong, then I do apologize.

You are embarking on a lifetime of health and well-being. Just as you took
the time to do your research (which I congratulate you on because you have
done better than 95% of those diagnosed with cancer) you will also need to
take the time to find ways to implement the protocol into your specific life
situations. In the beginning, this usually means a huge adjustment period.
As I said, before, soon it will become second nature as you get more into a
routine. Being thankful helps this process to go quicker. Those who dread
their protocol or think of it as a burden or something they are chained to
are the ones that will have more difficulty in being compliant (even though
they tell themselves that they are being compliant) or will eventually give
up on the protocol. No one here, especially me, wants any one to give up or
to feel like they don't belong.

There is a wealth of knowledge on this forum. Please do not allow my
post(s) to bring you down or to offend. Maybe you needed to hear some of my
comments, maybe you did not. Possibly others did need to hear them---so
please allow for that. None of us will agree with everything everyone has
to say and that is certainly ok....but before we allow ourselves to get
angry or hurt by a post, let's remember that possibly someone else may have
benefited or needed that post.

I am your biggest cheerleader and I KNOW and BELIEVE that you can and will
heal from cancer, if you follow the protocol. When this happens, you will
find that I along with many others here will shout the very loudest
HOORAY!!!....GOOD JOB!!!....CONGRATULATIONS!!! I know what it is like to
be unhealthy and what it is like to be healthy. I definitely choose health.
:o)

Blessings,
Loretta

Melanie - I made and juiced wheat grass for several
years. I am not doing it now as 1 - it takes a lot of
time and 2- I have been living in different situations
for the past 1 1/2 that have made it not possible for
me to grow. I would grow different batches at
different times so that I always had fresh wheat grass
available. First I soaked the wheat over night. Then
I spouted it in a gallon glass jar until about 1 inch
long. Then I laid it on top of organic soil fairly
thickly in about 2 inch high trays. I then loosely
covered the trays with plastic and watered them. I
had special shelves that I placed next to a window
with not alot of dirct light. I also had a fan going
as gnats were a problem for me. Within a couple of
days, the grass was about two inches tall. I removed
the plastic and let it grow until just before it fell
over (about 5 inches). I purchased a special wheat
grass juicer and had delicious wheat grass juice
almost every day. If the batch became too much, I cut
and froze it. I usually could get two growths per
seeding. I sure hope that I am able to do this again
soon as it is very healthy.
Also, you can sprout the wheat and then dry it before
you grind it to use as flour like in the Ezekial
bread. I have done that also. Please let me know if
I can be of help.
Good luck. Cindy

Melissa,

Thanks for the kind words and reminder of what most be only ONE of many things I forgot (along with misspelling BRONWYNN and calling her a deaL instead of a deaR soul).

Anyway, mostly when I leave home for a day it's for my downtown office. I keep an extra grinder and seeds there. But tonight I'm packing for a week at a nearby spa, and the grinder goes in the suitcase. Since I'm driving, a larger cooler will hold supplies for a week, and once I arrive at the place I'll talk my way into the kitchen and a nook there. (At the worst I'll have to keep using my cooler and rotate freezer packs into their freezer, if they
force me to that backup plan). As for fresh gringing, there's always an outlet in dining rooms I've visisted, aided by a current adjusting
transformer when in Europe.

A buddy who now posts on this list bought a transformer for his car, which uses the 12 volt direct current and changes it into 110 alternating and plugs his grinder in that way. He also found a small fridge for his car, which he used on a recent cross country trip.

Oh, and I load up on juice any mornings that I'm going to be gone for the day (which for me last into the evening).

Artie

_____




Artie, first of al BRAVO!!!!! Awesome post and wow, I sure wish you'd not stay silent for so long!

Secondly, you said:
"I have a neat little insulated picnic bag with
shoulder strap. It's just right to .........

What do you do about your flaxseed? That's the rub for me ... the
fresh-ground seed ...
aside from carrying a grinder and asking someone in a doctor's office, or wherever, if I could use an outlet to grind my seed, I'm not sure what else to do ... suggestions?

xxoo
Melissa

Artie, first of al BRAVO!!!!! Awesome post and wow, I sure wish you'd not stay silent for so
long!

Secondly, you said:
"I have a neat little insulated picnic bag with
shoulder strap. It's just right to hold my small bottle of flax oil and
container of cottage cheese for two helpings (the way I read Budwig the
FO/CC is best mixed freshly each time), along with the frozen pack to keep
everything cool, of course. The container of berries (I prefer glass, rather
than have anything plastic touch my food) fits right in, along with the
stainless steel water bottle (ordered on the internet), to keep filtered
water while I'm away on 8-10 hour days. Cut veggies can fit (wrapped in
parchment paper), and so can the slice of raw milk cheese (also wrapped in
parchment paper) and a small glass cup of buckwheat. And not to forget the
apple and small bag (the one bit of plastic I alllow because nothing else
I've found works as well) of organic, sprouted and low temp dehydrated nuts"

What do you do about your flaxseed? That's the rub for me ... the fresh-ground seed ...
aside from carrying a grinder and asking someone in a doctor's office, or wherever, if I
could use an outlet to grind my seed, I'm not sure what else to do ... suggestions?

xxoo
Melissa

Does anyone know why pain seems to accompany cancer healing?

Chinyen

Hi Rhoda,

Regarding the unrefrigerated Ezekial bread, according to my memory it contains gluten, whereas the frozen one does not.

Raven

Dear Bronwyn,

You haven't heard from me before as I've not written here in some months,
but your post moves me to repond.

SO SORRY YOU FEEL HURT. My bottom line message to you is BRAVO for you for
saying so, for getting it out and letting us hear how things are with you.
I'll let other writers respond for themselves, but add my two cents: you're
doing a great job at speaking up, asking for what you need, and saying what
helps and what doesn't. That in itself is a cure for a whole lot more than
cancer.

From my year or so of watching here, I'd say we've got a lot of cheer
leaders on this list. Some are longer on the cheering and shorter on the
empathizing. So let me add: YOU'RE AMAZING, yes, that you have to deal with
so much so soon in your life, that you've seen the horrors of what many
write of here, that you've had to deal with life and death choices and don't
need someone else to tell you that this starkest of choice is in all our
faces, every moment, whether we're aware of it or not. And you've pushed
yourself to put in those long hours trying to find an answer, and then went
against the current all around you, and then mustered all it has taken over
these last six months to get this very exacting thing right (when my three
kids your age can only manage to stay off fries when I'm buying dinner --
actually it's my two sons who eat whatever junk food doesn't eat them first,
tho my daughter, who has had some health conditions, has learn to curb
herself much, if not most of the time).

Now you show up here and since then your clear, shooting-from-the-hip voice
has stirred lots of fresh back and forth we wouldn't've had without you.
Thanks for being here, and may the accumulation of responses be helpful in
answering what you want to know: HOW TO DO THIS BP THING AND HAVE A LIFE.

And meanwhile, may you get some kind, warm and real responses to comfort you
in your hurt.

To get practical, one thing I'd add from personal experience (which you may
know about already, but just in case you don't): coolers come in many sizes,
shapes, and varieties. I have a neat little insulated picnic bag with
shoulder strap. It's just right to hold my small bottle of flax oil and
container of cottage cheese for two helpings (the way I read Budwig the
FO/CC is best mixed freshly each time), along with the frozen pack to keep
everything cool, of course. The container of berries (I prefer glass, rather
than have anything plastic touch my food) fits right in, along with the
stainless steel water bottle (ordered on the internet), to keep filtered
water while I'm away on 8-10 hour days. Cut veggies can fit (wrapped in
parchment paper), and so can the slice of raw milk cheese (also wrapped in
parchment paper) and a small glass cup of buckwheat. And not to forget the
apple and small bag (the one bit of plastic I alllow because nothing else
I've found works as well) of organic, sprouted and low temp dehydrated nuts
(from www.higherpower.biz -- full disclosure, I have absolutely no business
relationship with that outfit. I just like their nuts).

Now, I'm fortunate to have a little balcony with my modest apartment in the
Bronx, with a view East that allows me to sun while I have breakfast, at
least on days when it isn't raining. And I ought to mention the health club
in the subbasement where there is a sauna attached to the gym, so a stint on
the treadmill and stairmaster, with a run through my Tai Chi and a bit of
yoga get followed by a good sweat.

I ought to mention also that it helps to be weaned from TV (but that
happened in college; I got into one of those fancy places up north where I
was so certain they goofed in letting me in that I gave up TV to make sure I
could get my work done -- that was 45 years ago and while I have had my bad
habits that have come and gone along the way, thank the Lord TV hasn't been
one of them).

So how will YOU do it? Not like me, and probably not like anyone else
either. I expect that if anything written here or elsewhere is helpful to
you it will because your already very inventive nature, filled with
initiative and pluck, with have come up with something that suits you
perfectly and off you'll go making one little adjustment at a time, and
before long finding that what was once so daunting has slowly, but steadily,
become less so.

But nothing will change the fact that it sucks to have cancer, let alone at
22. And for all you'll learn and grow, for all the people you have already
inspired and will continue to move, for all the inimaginable "places you'll
go" (pardon the rip off of Dr Seuss), the sucky core will remain. What you
end up doing about that, getting from that, saying about that, well, that's
the Bronwyn story in the writing.

As you can probably tell, I'm doing my best to put myself in Loretta's shoes
and follow your advice to put myself in yours before I let these fingers tap
away. If I've slipped, please forgive me. I listen pretty well live, but
doing it in print is a whole other talent, and I'm not sure how well I'm
doing. But I am pretty sure that you'll let me know, and if I have goofed
you'll give me a chance to apologize and say that I was just meaning to
respond to a very moving, touching woman, whose predicament and unusual
way of dealing with it have called me out of months of silence to say,
"Bless your deal soul."

Artie E

_____

From: Bronwynn
While I am not sure if you intended to come across this way, I have to
inform you that I am deeply hurt by your response to my sensitive and
vulnerable post. I felt it condescending and insensitive to say the least. I
thought the point of having an online support group was so that one can feel
supported. After reading your post, SUPPORTED is the last thing I felt. I
did not ask the group for a lecture on what to and how to appreciate the
fact that I am alive and have found a way to stay that way for as long as I
wish. I am WELL AWARE of what I have come accross in my studies. And for
your information, no, I do
NOT feel lucky to have found the BP. It is my sincere and deep belief that
each of us chooses every single experience we have in our life. So, no, I do
not pity those who have not found this, and do not chalk it up to luck and
just jump around singin' glory glory that I have. I look within and thank
the part of me that was willing to read approximately 20 books and stay on
the onternet till all hours of the night researching so that I could CURE
MYSELF. And I did!!!!! I thank myself. And I thank the God within me. And I
am well aware of how I became ill. How dare you presume to know what this
journey has been like for me and then instruct me to let go of my desire to
want to leave the house. For your information, I was diagnosed a whole year
ago in septmeber and DID do chemo for 6 months, and DID NOT LEAVE THE
COUCH!! So, don't talk to me about what it's like roamin the halls watchin'
bald people throw up. I know all about it. And as far as the comments on my
"maturity" go, you should REALLY think twice before saying such a thing. You
do not know a thing about me. And let's keep it that way! How dare you
question me on my decision to wean myself from negative foods. If I knew
that being open and honest with
this group would lead to being judged and questioned, I never would have
done it. Please don't lecture on "change"., I have changed every single
thing about my life starting the day I got diagnosed. I am very intuitive
and intelligent and you have NO RIGHT to say the
things you did.

I wrote this group because I needed ideas on how to leave the house and
still stay on my diet. I thank all of you who shared with me what you have
done. Loretta, I came to this group because I felt ostracized from society
for my choices to heal my cancer naturally.
And now I would like to formally thank you for making me feel ostracized at
the one place I thought I could let my guard down at! I am utterly surprised
at how compassionless your response was. And the next time you even THINK of
questioning me on ANY of my choices, I suggest you put yourself in MY shoes
for just a second. Think about what it's like to stare death in the face
with a "terminal" diagnosis at the young age of 22! Think about what it
feels like to have to hear people in your family kindly suggest that you
make a Will, "just in case" Think about what it feels like to have to tell
your single mother, as a single child, that her baby has Stage 4 breast
cancer. Just do it, for a second. Pretend your 22 and scared and just found
out you have cancer. Pretend that all you've ever had in your life to rely
on is yourself. How would you feel??? Maybe after placing yourself in MY
shoes, you'd choose to respond to my post a little more neutrally and with
just a smidge of compassion. I asked for ideas on how to store food, not a
lecture from a total stranger on
how I "SHOULD" be living my life !!!!

"Dr. Loretta Lanphier" wrote:

A good thing to remember is that the life that you have been "living" has

put you into the place that you are right now. It takes a complete and total
change in absolutely everything about your life in order to heal from
cancer. Change is difficult and most people resist it like the plague
.......<snip>

Hi Melanie, I'm not sure if this is the answer you are looking for, but
I have been doing "modified Budwig" for 5 months now, going heavy on
the oil and flax seed. My monthly cycle has not changed a bit from
before BP. I am still showing no signs of menopause and am 46 years
old, Peace Rena.


"Melanie King" wrote:

I think I've seen references here to flaxseed functioning as a

natural alternative to Tamoxifen. Is this correct? Doesn't Tamoxifen
cause a person to be menopausal? How does ingesting large amounts of
flaxoil and flaxseeds affect the monthly cycle?

"astral5002000" wrote:

dear friends, i'm planning a 3 months trip to india,the FO i can
handle,assuming it takes 1/2 L a week (enough?).is there anything in
the files that i can use for CC and SK juice over there? franz

Hi Franz,

Based on messages from our members in India, paneer is the equivalent
of cottage cheese. I imagine that you can buy it in stores there.

Also, if needed you could order freshly pressed flaxseed oil from
Vijay Seth in Jaipur. I believe that he said that his oil is being
sold in some stores or he can deliver it to you if you are in the
right city. He can be reached at 09314502490, or email him at
info @ flaxindia.com. [I separated the address so that the Yahoo
system wouldn't hide part of it.]

I don't know about sauerkraut juice there. Maybe one of our members
from India will be able to answer you later with more details on that.

Sandra

dear friends, i'm planning a 3 months trip to india,the FO i can
handle,assuming it takes 1/2 L a week (enough?).is there anything in
the files that i can use for CC and SK juice over there? thanks for
attention, franz

Dear Bronwyn,

I second the bravo to you. I, too, haven't posted in a long while. I am
so sorry that your feelings and legitimate concerns were discounted in favor
of a mini chastisement. You don't deserve that. Having cancer at 22 is a
very challenging thing from many perspectives. Your life is just beginning and
your question of "how to do this and have a life" is legitimate. Thank you
for being so honest. Sometimes we older folks suppress our true feelings in
favor of what we are supposed to say and think. You have shown me the value
in saying what is true for me.

I wish you only the best in your journey with this illness. You have
shown a spirit and a self-motivation that is rare in someone your age. I hope
you know that there are many people here who respect your feelings and who
understand exactly what you are asking.

Rose



*** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at

Hi,

What type of milk should i use with the FO/CC? (low fat or fat free)
Does Dr Budwig allowed to eat eggs?
What are the source for B12, if eating meets is prohibited?

Thx,
Racheli