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Re: Del - kefiili
Delano Eaton
Have you ever heard of Weston A Price Foundation? There are chapters
set up in every state and in most countries. Sally Fallons (president of WAPF) wrote a cook book entitled Nourising Traditions. It is more than a cookbook, as it also has a lot of information about how our fore fathers used to prepare foods, like culturing and fermenting. All based on Dr Price's (a dentist) findings when he traveled the world looking for the healthiest people to study them and find the reason for their excellent health. The yahoo group set up for followers is called Native Nutrition. It is there I learned about kefiili and someone sent me some grains. Yes, I very much like the idea about a dark pink salad! I am looking forward to making it! I have not had potatoe salad in a very long time because I have not found a suitable dressing but I believe now with the basic recipe for the mayo in the FO cookbook I will be able to make a delicious dressing! I am having conflict with my family, who does not want to eat anything that is good for them! I need to prepare some very delicious foods that they can't resist that is also good for them. Thanks, Del Cheryl wrote: Hi Del,indeed. Where did you manage to find kefiili?way to go Yes, when I served the salad, his remarks were that he has nevertasted a pink salad. Then after his 2nd helping of the pink salad with the pinkbelieve me. I very often think that those gag reflexes some people have whenthey first try the fo/cc is all in the mind. With a little bit of imaginationone can incorporate the fo/cc in most of your dishes and hardly even noticeit.
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"not mixed in"
silouan22
I was a little confused about whether or not ground flax seed can
be mixed in after the thorough blending of FO and CC in the following: I assume if you only used FO/CC straight it would be OK if youcould handle the boredom of just that taste. Adding various fruits etc is for variety and does not change the health benefits of FO. That would be too one-sided. Taking fo/cc straight would be fine if you eat fruit, berries, nuts and ground flaxseed with it (not mixed in) because you need these foods for the nutrients that they contain. I make a shake after I mix the FO/CC by adding fruit, honey, and the freshly ground FS (which I only blend for a few seconds). Is that OK? thanks, jim |
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Re: Cheryl: blender
Cheryl du Toit
Barb,
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I use an Oscar juicer for juicing and I reckon that you need a juicer for your wheat grass juice. For the blending I use a Kenwood blender. After the juicing and proper mixing of the fo/cc, I blend all ingredients in the Kenwood blender for +/- 5 seconds only to make the fruit/veggie shakes. Hope this helps. Cheryl -------Original Message-------
From: FlaxSeedOil2@... Date: 15 July 2004 02:33:06 AM To: Flaxseed Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Cheryl: blender Cheryl, What kind of blender do you have? I have a centrifigal force type, good quality. I doubt I could do wheat grass and that sort of thing. |
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Del - kefiili
Cheryl du Toit
Hi Del,
Thanks for your explanation regarding kefiili - very interesting indeed. Where did you manage to find kefiili? If you like the idea of a dark pink salad, the potato salad is the way to go Yes, when I served the salad, his remarks were that he has never tasted a pink salad. Then after his 2nd helping of the pink salad with the pink salmon, and his remark about the fo/cc, I told him. He didn't believe me. I very often think that those gag reflexes some people have when they first try the fo/cc is all in the mind. With a little bit of imagination one can incorporate the fo/cc in most of your dishes and hardly even notice it. Cheryl Hi Cheryl, Long story, short....kefiili has all the same properties of kefir, is made with grains or a culture. I do mine with grains. I guess the guy that was saying he would vomit was wolfing down the salad and liking it! You did tell him later, didn't you? Del |
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Anna - breast cancer treatment
Cheryl du Toit
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It is wonderful to make contact with you too Anna and remember that we are all here to try and help and support you. I am sorry to hear that your cancer is back and the two small lumps. I can just imagine that this waiting period for the results of the ct and bone scans must me awful. Please share your results with us as soon as you get them. I am sure that by now, you know that your naturopath's recommendation of 2 tbsp. of flaxoil in juices won't do the trick. If you read Dr Budwig's book - Flaxoil as a true aid........... (it is in our group's file section) you will understand why it is so important to mix the oil with cottage cheese. You need to get those precious electrons in the flaxoil right to the mitochondria of your cells and only by making the oil water soluble will that happen. Also, remember that you need some sun every day to get those electrons vibrating in your cells. I have to tell you something funny. After my sister and I read Dr Budwig's book she said: " Well, finally and at last, I have a good reason to sit topless in the sun" :-) She never did, but she tries to get her sun every day. Lots of strongs Cheryl -------Original Message-------
From: FlaxSeedOil2@... Date: 14 July 2004 03:32:20 PM To: FlaxSeedOil2@... Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] breast cancer treatment Great to make one on one contact with you Cheryl I feel like I have reach someone in this vast internet space and its exhilerating. No had no chemo, (my choice) I felt it was not fair to the life force within me to destroy it completely, our body has intelligence in healing itself. Having said that I did have a masectomy as I was not completly confident with what I was going to do. I was given 6 weeks to decide on chemo. I had no metastasis, so I radically changed my diet, juiced and used meditation. But its back. Now my naturopath did not give me details of Budwigs diet, but she did recommend 2 tbsp. of FO a day in juices. I am currently waiting on results of ct scans and a bone scan. The ultrasound confirmed two small lumps. love and peace Anna Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. Note: The contents of the posts on FlaxSeedOil2 are purely educational and are not intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult your doctor about the diagnosis and treatment of health problems. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: FlaxSeedOil2-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Re: New to the FO/CC
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wrote: Terry, You actually have a number of choices: You can mix fruit, berries,etc. into the fo/cc, or eat them unmixed with the fo/cc, or do some of both. It is important that you don't forget that part of the diet. Wilhelm: Thanks much for the clarification...it's good to know I haven't been doing it wrong for the past months! Regards, Terry |
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Re: New to the FO/CC
Wilhelm Hansen
Terry,
yes you can mix fruit, berries, etc. into your fo/cc. I did not say that you could not. Read the question and my reply to it again and it should become clear what I meant to say. You actually have a number of choices: You can mix fruit, berries, etc. into the fo/cc, or eat them unmixed with the fo/cc, or do some of both. It is important that you don't forget that part of the diet. Wilhelm --- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "Wilhelm Hansen" <wilhelmh@t...> wrote: > > I assume if you only used FO/CC straight it would be OK if you could handle the boredom of just that taste. Adding various fruits etc is for variety and does not change the health benefits of FO. > > That would be too one-sided. Taking fo/cc straight would be fine if you eat fruit, berries, nuts and ground flaxseed with it (not mixed in) because you need these foods for the nutrients that they contain. > Wilhelm: I am a little confused by the "not mixed in" comment above. I thought the protocol allowed/recommended the mixing of fruit, berries, etc. with the FO/CC mixture once the FO/CC was sufficiently blended and no oil was visible. Could you clarify? Thanks, Terry |
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Re: New to the FO/CC
--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "Wilhelm Hansen" <wilhelmh@t...>
wrote: could handle the boredom of just that taste. Adding various fruits etcI assume if you only used FO/CC straight it would be OK if you is for variety and does not change the health benefits of FO. you eat fruit, berries, nuts and ground flaxseed with it (not mixed in) because you need these foods for the nutrients that they contain. Wilhelm: I am a little confused by the "not mixed in" comment above. I thought the protocol allowed/recommended the mixing of fruit, berries, etc. with the FO/CC mixture once the FO/CC was sufficiently blended and no oil was visible. Could you clarify? Thanks, Terry |
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breast cancer
robert farkas
Carolyn, Thank-you for your positive input and giving
me the incentive to stick with what I'm doing. Did you have chemo? How long is it befor one notices a cahnge in a palpable tumor, days,weeks months? Given that my tumor is small will it go away quicker? Love and peace Anna Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. |
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Dim
robert farkas
Barb, Dim is short for Diindolemethane, a
phytochemical(plant chemical) that naturally occurs in cruciferous vegetables e.g cabbage and brocolli. It is possible to buy it in a concentrated form in a capsule known as DIM. The purpose for using this, and incidentally I also eat apprx. 300-400grams of the fresh cabbage and brocolli, is to reduce the carcinogenic estrogen in the body by coneverting themm into the beneficial estrogen. Hope this helps. Love and peace Anna. Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. |
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Re: New to the FO/CC
Ed Watanabe
Thank you Wilhelm for your quick response.
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From: Wilhelm Hansen [mailto:wilhelmh@...] Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 12:39 PM To: FlaxSeedOil2@... Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] New to the FO/CC Ed, > I assume if I make the FC/CC and eat it like many of you are as well as make various recipes as noted in these cook books...this is the over all plan? The overall plan is broader than that. Please read "Budwig Diet" and "Budwig Protocol" in our files for more information on that. > I assume if you only used FO/CC straight it would be OK if you could handle the boredom of just that taste. Adding various fruits etc is for variety and does not change the health benefits of FO. That would be too one-sided. Taking fo/cc straight would be fine if you eat fruit, berries, nuts and ground flaxseed with it (not mixed in) because you need these foods for the nutrients that they contain. > Also, I am not clear why there seems to be so much discussion about how one blends the FO. Because some people don't appreciate the importance of mixing it properly - or even of mixing it at all. > If the point is to get the FO it into your body..I assume one could take it straight out of the bottle followed by spoon full of CC. (If you could do his an not gag.) No. > In my case since I do not have cancer, isn't the point to get as much FO into my system as possible... No! Not as much as possible. That would give the impression that you should drink it by the bottle. > ...or is it necessary to blend it with CC, yogurt or quark? Yes, mixing with CC or Quark that is. Quark can be made from buttermilk and also from yogurt and possibly from other fermented dairy products. Cheryl makes it from kefir, seemingly with good success. Using yogurt (and kefir?) unstrained (i.e. not made into quark) is questionable as it has a relatively low protein density and may therefore not facilitate full water solubility of FO. But that is what the subject of the discussion that you are not clear about. We have seen it reported that lack of proper mixing did not give the expected results and later, when the mixing was done properly the results improved. If you still have problems with this concept, just take the need for proper mixing at face value from Dr.Budwig. Wilhelm I have an enlarged prostate. No cancer but my wife and I want to start the FO/CC protocol to improve our overall health. I have been following the discussion group regarding FO/CC and if I understand Dr. Budwigs plan...the goal is the make FO/CC protocol a regular part of your daily diet. I purchased her book - Oil Protein Diet Cookbook and Fax For Life by Jade Beutler. I assume if I make the FC/CC and eat it like many of you are as well as make various recipes as noted in these cook books...this is the over all plan? I assume if you only used FO/CC straight it would be OK if you could handle the boredom of just that taste. Adding various fruits etc is for variety and does not change the health benefits of FO. Also, I am not clear why there seems to be so much discussion about how one blends the FO. If the point is to get the FO it into your body..I assume one could take it straight out of the bottle followed by spoon full of CC. (If you could do his an not gag.) In my case since I do not have cancer, isn't the point to get as much FO into my system as possible or is it necessary to blend it with CC, yogurt or quark? Thank you so much for you response to my questions. Ed Note: The contents of the posts on FlaxSeedOil2 are purely educational and are not intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult your doctor about the diagnosis and treatment of health problems. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: FlaxSeedOil2-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Cheryl :Thanks for recipes
Delano Eaton
Hi Cheryl,
Long story, short....kefiili has all the same properties of kefir, is made with grains or a culture. I do mine with grains. What happened is some villi grains got crossed with some kefir grains and the result is kefiili. The only diff is the taste and the thickness. I can digest the kefiili very well whereas I cannot digest other milk products. I stick with the cultured or fermented dairy. I use digestive enzymes but I thought that maybe you and others use some derived from papaya, as Dr Budwig has papaya in her protocal. I live in Springfield, Mo and buy my organic fruits and veggies at the health food store. We have a great farmers market except we don't have many organic growers. I have not checked the price of papaya or pineapple lately but last I looked the price was upwards of $5.00. Thanks so much for giving me 2 of your fav dishes. I can't wait to try them. I guess the guy that was saying he would vomit was wolfing down the salad and liking it! You did tell him later, didn't you? Del |
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Re: Lignans or not??
Wilhelm Hansen
Joe,
You can take either, high lignan or straight flaxseed oil. If you want to do the Budwig Diet, your best approach is to get straight FO and take freshly ground flaxseeds as well, that is what Dr.Budwig did. See our files. Also see message 17136: Wilhelm I'm not sure but I think high lignan is best. Many people add fresh ground FS to their FO/CC mixture so maybe it doesn't matter that much. Joe |
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