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Re: OT fruit and sugar
glogan
Rebecca. . last week there was some discussion on Glyonutrients being a useful alternative for fighting cancer, some felt it was good and some felt it wasn't afterall glyconutrients is just another form of sugar...
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However we must bear in mind that cancer cells are no different then healthy cells when it comes to competing within the body for any good nutrients cancer cells need the same foods that the healthy cells need to survive the only difference of course when cancer cells rob our body of good nutrients it only makes the cancer stronger but we have another concern and that is if we stop eating all the good nutrients (which includes fruit sugars) our healthy cells will weaken along with the immune system, opening the door for cancer cells to invade other parts of the body, so I would guess that it is important that we not let down our defenses and continue to eat everything that we need to fight the bad invaders in our system. Sounds like we are just defeating the purpose because we keep allowing the cancer cells to revitalize themselves all the time... However that is also a good reason why we have to continuously consume anti-oxidents to fight and destroy cancer cells.... so all we can do is keep fighting until we win the war even if it's only one small battle at a time.. Stay Healthy, Gerry Logan ----- Original Message -----
From: <jonireb@...> To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...> Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 11:34 AM Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] OT fruit and sugar The sugar problem is puzzling me too |
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Re: OT fruit and sugar
Wilhelm Hansen
Rebecca,
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can you point me to where Dr.Budwig said that honey is necessary for the mix? I believe she said that some honey may be used rather than saying that it is necessary. One point that I have observed, which I am not 100% sure about, is that the fo/cc seems to mix better when honey is added - that is before any other ingredients are added. Other ingredients should always be added after the fo/cc (with honey?) is thoroughly mixed. Refined sugar is bad for you - without a doubt. Dr.Budwig made that clear. She did allow berries, fruit and fruit juices because of their nutritional value, without specifying which ones. This means IMO, that so long as they are taken in reasonable quantities, she was not overly concerned about the sugar content in them. If you wish to consult glycemic index tables and only eat tart fruit and berries that should be fine but perhaps it would be unnecessarily restrictive. Wilhelm ----- Original Message -----
From: jonireb@... To: FlaxSeedOil2@... Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 8:34 AM Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] OT fruit and sugar The sugar problem is puzzling me too Dr. Budwig states that honey is necessary for the mix, and she recommends fruit and juices, but I too thought sugar ion any form was a cancer feeder, Rebecca |
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honey and fruit
Some Interesting replies on this problem, thank you,
Wilhelm ... No, I cant point you to the reference... I wish I knew more but unfortunately I don't have her book yet (It's on order from Amazon) but the info I have from internet sites does say mix honey with the mix and one says use honey with cereal and pour flax seed oil on it for breakfast, I am pretty desperate to get a copy of the diet in her own words ,,, can you tell me if the original (translated of course) is available anywhere on the internet? WE have been 'making do' with an amalgam of all the information I can find so far ... but I'm really confused about the quantities of the mix, Rebecca |
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Re: OT--fruit & sugar
From: <rdavilajr@...>
I know a person with cancer should not take sugar, but some say thata little bit of honey is OK. A LITTLE bit, particularly if not taken on an empty stomach, is fine. what about the sugar in the fruits?Most fruit are not very high glycemic (don't cause a big surge in blood sugar), and many fruit are quite cancer-healing, so I think they're excellent to eat. I'd just avoid eating a huge amount of high-glycemic fruit (watermelon, dates, tropical fruit) on an empty stomach. Best to eat some low-glycemic fruit (berries, peaches, plums, apple) 1st. |
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Re: OT--almonds, cancer & Cayce
glogan wrote,Apparently, "the most often quoted readings say:protect yourself from cancer then eat 5 or 6 raw almonds every day...The prophet Edgar Cayce made a statement that if you want to 'Those who would eat two to three almonds each day need never fear cancer.' (1158-31) 'If an almond is taken each day, and kept up, you'll never have accumulations of tumors or such conditions through the body.' (3180-3)" For an in-depth discussion of "Almonds in the Cayce Readings Compared to Current Medical Research" with reference to cancer, including "Raw vs Roasted Almonds", see www.healingcancernaturally.com/spirituality.html#almondscayce Ulla |
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Re: Are we able get PET SCANS under while on BUDWIG
My wife Maria Davila had different x-rays and scans done, and the doctors could not diagnose her cancer. It was not until she had a pet scan done that it showed where the cancer was located. As a mater of fact I told the oncologist that after seven days in the hospital my wife left without a diagnose of her problem. The doctor said, the diagnose was that they didn't find anything, and he told her she did not have cancer. It was not until she got the pet scan that they found out they were wrong.I know they use sugar and some radioactive stuff, but this is only a one time thing. I know a person with cancer should not take sugar, but some say that a little bit of honey is OK. I don't no about that, I personlly believe honey is just like sugar, and what about the sugar in the fruits? I don't know if I am right or not but I think a pet scan is very important in order to locate the cancer and know its extent. It is a very good tool for that. Especially if the cancer has metastasized. Sincerely Ricardo Davila Jr From: Cliff Beckwith <cliffb865@...> |
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Cliff - ginger and recipe
Carolyn J. Kreibich
Cliff Beckwith wrote:
I have been using ellagic acid and powdered ginger. Apparently theyI switched from powdered ginger to cutting up fresh ginger and adding it to my fo/cc. Someone on this list mentioned a few weeks ago that fresh ginger may be more powerful.
How did you do this? Did you cook them together or separately and then mix them? What kind of beans did you use? I am interested in trying this. Carolyn |
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almonds
Carolyn J. Kreibich
MsKatlee wrote:
I love almonds but my teeth do not take them so well anymore. I cracked a tooth in half last year and needed a crown. So now I no longer eat almonds 'as is'. I put enough for a few days in a container, add water, and let them sit on the counter and soak overnight and longer. That softens them and I eat them over the next few days. (I rinse them each day and change the water.) When they are gone, I start a new batch. I only soak enough for about 3 days. My fo/cc/gfs breakfast sometimes does not 'stick' with me until lunch and the almonds are a great midmorning snack. Carolyn |
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Re: stopping chemo
Carolyn J. Kreibich
Chemo is...... poisoning the body to make it healthy. Absurb.
Please, no more talk of chemo. I have watched too many co-workers over the years lose their health with chemo.It is sickening (literally). Let's keep this list about using Budwig's protocol and related/supportive alternative protocols. Thanks, Carolyn |
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Re: almonds
Delano Eaton
Would you know the ratio of water to almonds to make what amount?
Thanks, Del "glogan" wrote: Carolyn.......... it isn't the almonds that are causing your teethto crumble it is most likely the vigorous chewing of the almonds, teeth against teeth, by putting the almonds in water you are taking one of the firststeps in preparing almond milk........ remove the skins or buy them already blanched then place in distilled water for 24 hours, then drain and put the almonds in your blender and blenderize with fresh distilled water........ until you are happy with it, keep in the refrigerator and drink it up as it will begin to sour, some people add honey or juice to make there own flavour, almond milk can also be used for cooking (so I've been told, I know that rice milk can't) however it is great with your morning cereal or just to drink as a glass of cold milk and no milk allergy problems... yourself from cancer then eat 5 or 6 raw almonds every day... container, start aadd water, and let them sit on the counter and soak overnight and and are not intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consultnew batch. I only soak enough for about 3 days. your doctor about the diagnosis and treatment of health problems. Yahoo! Groups Links |
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Re: Morning Cereal a Killer
glogan
Larry I don't eat the sugar coated Kellogg's dry food, when you go shopping for breakfast cereals they now have about a 1/2 mile of dry garbage that our kids eat all the time, I eat the ones that come in smaller packages and have all the good stuff in it and generally cost a fortune, I always add, raw chopped up almonds, a handful of raw sunflower seeds, a large tablespoon full of raw pumpkin seeds, some sesame seeds, a handful of wild blueberries, and I generally use rice milk with nothing added to sweeten it up. I do manage to have bacon and eggs or steak and eggs for a change, coffee apparently is a perfect enema, but I do like a cup once in a while, I prefer freshly juiced fruit or vegetables to start my day..
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Gerry Logan ----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Clapp" <lclapp@...> To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 12:27 PM Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Morning Cereal a Killer Gerry and all-- |
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Re: almonds
Chloie
Thanks again, Gerry. Sounds like a great idea.
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Chloie glogan wrote: You can make a very powerful health drink by adding sesame seeds, and raw sunflower seeds to the almonds, loaded with Vit B17, some even like to mix this seed milk along with the cottage cheese and Flax Oil, good |
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Re: almonds
glogan
You can make a very powerful health drink by adding sesame seeds, and raw sunflower seeds to the almonds, loaded with Vit B17, some even like to mix this seed milk along with the cottage cheese and Flax Oil, good
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luck and good health GerryLogan ----- Original Message -----
From: "Chloie" <chloie@...> To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 3:56 PM Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: almonds Thanks, Gerry, |
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My delete finger is getting tired.....
Can we get back to flax oil and the diet? I think there are several other
yahoo groups for discussion of religion, politics and the rest. I will never understand how so many groups go through this, people want to come in and push their agenda's on everyone and in the meantime people get angry & forget just why we are here. Malinda |
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Re: regarding: the concerns of your faith - God Bless America
Chloie
Yes, Wilhelm, I believe it is - absolutley. To respect the principles of others does not mean to stifle them. How sad is it that nobody can say something they feel is important to health on this group that is supposed to be about health? But it is your list. I whole heartedly disagree that spiritual matters have the same significance to one's health as do daycare and coin collecting. Again, it is your list. You have chosen to ignore, no, bar what you feel is not relevant. I will try to not say anything contrary to your beliefs.
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Chloie Wilhelm Hansen wrote: ChloieIMO - it's difficult to draw the line sometimes between what isappropriate and what is not as health/life is the overall issue here and health is affected by so many things. |
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Re: regarding: the concerns of your faith - God Bless America
Wilhelm Hansen
Chloie
IMO - it's difficult to draw the line sometimes between what is appropriate and what is not as health/life is the overall issue here and health is affected by so many things.I agree that there are grey areas where it is difficult to know whether something is on topic or not. In these cases you will usually not get any objection from other members or from the moderators. Religion and politics are not one of the grey areas. They are clearly off topic. They are explosive topics because of the many different points of view, religions and philosophies. It is unwholesome to discuss this here. All you need to do is to look at Flo wanting to leave this group because of what was said... That is not to say that Cliff or I do not have our religious convictions, or that Ulla does not have her philosophy (as she pointed out today), but this is not the place to discuss them. Another point - is it really positive for people to not be able to exchange ideas, communicate and connect on this site?People come here for information about FO and the Budwig Protocol. They can freely exchange information and connect on that. That is what we are here for. We are a focussed group but do allow a certain amount of OT posting, especially if it is related (like the current thread on almonds). It is counter productive to talk about religion, daycare, 9/11, safe boating, coin colleting, pet grooming or any of such clearly OT subjects. Maybe the answer is to let people speak their minds, share anything they feel is of value, and just title everything that is not pure fo/cc talk as OT.Most members will disagree. It also clutters up this board which many members have objected to openly and to me privately. Some people have left for that reason. One more point is that a lot of OT posts unnecessarily fill up our Yahoo storage allotment and it makes it harder to search the archives for relevant information. If people disagree - FINE. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be able to voice that or question things.Chloie... let's just respect the guidelines of this list. We could benefit form a little tolerance here. I mean, isn't the objective to help each other?To me, being tolerant is to respect the principles of others. Is sticking to the principles of this group intolerant? Is questioning these principles being tolerant? Wilhelm |
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Re: skinning almonds
A possibly more gentle (on the nutritious content) and just as effective
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method is bringing water to the boil, throwing in the almonds for a "moment" (I think 10 seconds will do), and then immediately running them under cold water and voil¨¤, they peel easily... (just saw Chloie's previous similar recommendation and am "enlarging" it now by recommending the subsequent cold water treatment ... this is how I was taught to easily peel almonds...) Ulla Gerry wrote: I put the almonds (raw) into water and just as the water reaches bolling |
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Re: almonds
Chloie
Thanks, Gerry,
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For what it's worth, I haven't had a prob with bitterness. It does turn quickly, after a day or two and get a "flavor". And it's true, it's not really white, but more of a light tan when the skin is left on. If you strain it well though there won't be any roughage. I guess whichever way you like it, it's still good for you. Just much easier to not have to remove the skins. I think I'd never make it if I had to do that. I guess I'm lucky I haven't tried removing the skins. It might taste better, then I'd be doomed to skin the little buggers! Chloie glogan wrote: Some feel that by removing the skin you will remove any bitterness that the skin may retain, the other is you want the milk to be whiter with no added roughage.... |
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