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Re: Help needed with Eldi Oil application
I put it on every part of my body that I can reach. My skin is dry at the time. My body absorbs the oil immediately. I don't always go in for a warm shower within 10 minutes. I sometimes forget. I very rarely soap it off. I have never had a problem with oil on my clothes or linens.
I have tried putting it on after a shower but it stays on the skin longer. The warm shower after 10 minutes helps drive the oils into the skin more. Rhoda |
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ground flaxseed
The flaxseed should be ground fresh each time. I believe I read somewhere that ground flaxseed loses some of its value after 15 minutes of being ground.
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Re: Beads in the mixture-Wilhelm&Cheryl
Cheryl du Toit
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You are so correct when you say that the fo/cc mixing is of the utmost importance. After all, this is what the Budwig protocol is all about. I truly feel that you have now mastered the basic skills of the Budwig protocol if your mixture looks the way you have described it here. We have several lactose intolerant people in our group. I personally tested both cc and kefir and I agree with you - there is no difference between cc and kefir as far as water solubility is concerned. I find that kefir cottage cheese is actually easier to mix with the oil than ordinary store bought cottage cheese. Also, I found that for those people who gag when they first taste the fo/cc, the kefir seems not to have that effect on them (can you believe that some people feel that way about this mix?) While I was typing your reply your orange juice question came through and I have personally not tried plain orange juice. It shouldn't be a problem as my personal absolute favorite fruit shake is a blend of juiced tropical fruits such as papaya, pineapple, banana mixed with orange juice, diluted with filtered water and then blended with the fo/cc mixture - simply the best, as long as there is no oil floating on the surface!! Keep well Cheryl -------Original Message-------
From: FlaxSeedOil2@... Date: 13 July 2004 03:49:24 PM To: FlaxSeedOil2@... Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: Beads in the mixture-Wilhelm&Cheryl Thanks Cheryl, I don't mean to run this subject into the ground as I do think it is of utmost importance. When I mix the oil with my kefir there is no more residue of oil than if I mix it with CC. This residue can only be seen with a magnifing glass. With the magnifing glass there are no yellow beads, it is a cream colored glistening. Possiblly smaller that the head of a needle. With the naked eye it totally looks like cream and will stay looking that way, even if I put it into the fridge for a few hours. Everybody seems to have missed my post, I think, a few days ago, when I used Nancy's low fat CC. I saw the same residue, then, as I see when mixing using kefir! If it were not water soluable then it would separate after it sits and I would be able to see real oil instead of only glistening, I think. After my experiment, (mixing with a hand-mixer and using CC and seeing the same glistening as I see with my kefir) I am inclined to believe that my kefir mix is indeed water-soluable! I guess the discussion goes back to just how you mix and how long...whisk, elec hand mixer or blender. Then ask yourself this question: "does it separate after sitting and do I see the yellow oil". Del Cheryl wrote: Hi Del,mixture, it is clearly not water soluble. This is a delicious drink and tasteslike a fruit/veg shake. And yes, you are 100% right, the no. 1 appliance is of Note: The contents of the posts on FlaxSeedOil2 are purely educational and are not intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult your doctor about the diagnosis and treatment of health problems. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: FlaxSeedOil2-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. |
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Re: Mixer?
Wilhelm Hansen
Don't buy the pre-ground flaxseeds, flaxseed powder, flax meal or whatever it is called.
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Buy organic whole flaxseeds and grind them yourself just before eating them. Wilhelm ----- Original Message -----
From: rv_weber To: FlaxSeedOil2@... Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 11:14 AM Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: Mixer? Sorry - I was still reading under the original Dr. Budwig file. There is a lot of information. One final question (I almost promise) - I noticed "Flax Seed Powder" at the health store. Can this be used in place of ground flaxseed? Thanks for all of the help. |
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Help needed with Eldi Oil application
acpjones58
Hi Everyone,
Can anyone help me out with the Eldi oil application? I did look in the file section, but was not clear on if I should apply it to my legs and arms also. When I take a shower with warm water, the oil just seems to come off my body really easy. I tried to make the water as tepid as possible, but it does not seem to make a difference. By the time my twenty minutes are up, there is no oil to shower off. I have been thinking, should I just steam myself in the shower, put on the oil after my pores are openened and then stay in for an additional 20 minutes before soaping up? I am trying to make sure that it is getting in my system and not just being rinsed away! Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Anita |
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Re: Beads in the mixture
Wilhelm Hansen
Why not use orange juice? I have never tried it as I eat my fo/cc concoctions on the thick side made with Quark as per Dr.Budwig's recommendations. I prefer it that way and it mixes quickly, easily and completely. I have not seen the need for this kind of verification of water solubility in my standard mixtures. Perhaps Cheryl can answer your question better.
Wilhelm Would orange juice (or any juice) work just as well? This probably sounds nip-picky but I jusy want to be sure. At this point I am thinking my mix is water soluable as it looks the same as the mix with cc. Del |
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Re: Mixer?
Sorry - I was still reading under the original Dr. Budwig file. There
is a lot of information. One final question (I almost promise) - I noticed "Flax Seed Powder" at the health store. Can this be used in place of ground flaxseed? Thanks for all of the help. --- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "Wilhelm Hansen" <wilhelmh@t...> wrote: Yes, we are laughing with you. You will get your diploma after thenext round :-) the mixture so that it mixes properly. Using an electric mixer works best. anymore. Then flavor by adding your choice of vanilla, cinnamon, juice,fruit, berries, etc. on top. Vary every day - experimentdoing wrong? I tried a blender, and then a hand mixer. My "creations"it by hand with a whisk? |
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Re: Mixer?
Wilhelm Hansen
Yes, we are laughing with you. You will get your diploma after the next round :-)
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I would say you didn't add any milk as a thinner. You need to thin the mixture so that it mixes properly. Using an electric mixer works best. Here is what it says in our files under "Foods": Linomel Muesli - 3 tblsp flaxseed oil (FO) 100 g (6 tblsp) Quark or cottage cheese (CC) 1 teaspoon honey 2 tblsp mik 2 tblsp Linomel or ground flaxseeds Fruit, juice, nuts (no peanuts), flavoring Mix FO, CC, milk and honey until it is smooth and no oil is visible anymore. Then flavor by adding your choice of vanilla, cinnamon, juice, fruit, berries, etc. Put Linomel in a bowl, cover with fruit and nuts, put fo/cc mixture on top. Vary every day - experiment Wilhelm ----- Original Message -----
From: rv_weber To: FlaxSeedOil2@... Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 10:53 AM Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Mixer? OK - my first attempt to create this was a disaster. What am I doing wrong? I tried a blender, and then a hand mixer. My "creations" turned into a thick paste that I had a hard time digging off the blades. Am I doing something wrong? Is there an easier way? Can you mix it by hand with a whisk? HELP!!! And, I know you are laughing with me, not at me. |
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Re: Does It Make Sense to have a FAQ Section to which to send new people?
Wilhelm Hansen
I don't know Elliot...
Based on the questions being asked, I think the problem is more that not enough new members read the files. If they did, many questions would be answered before they are asked. However, if you see an advantage in FAQs, why don't you make up a list of them and send them to me privately. I will see what I can do with providing the answers to them and then make a file of it. Btw, the file on making you own quark has been updated. I think you were one of those who asked for it a while ago. It is in the "Foods" files. Wilhelm Just wondering... There is plenty of room in the files section for one. Elliot |
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Mixer?
OK - my first attempt to create this was a disaster. What am I doing
wrong? I tried a blender, and then a hand mixer. My "creations" turned into a thick paste that I had a hard time digging off the blades. Am I doing something wrong? Is there an easier way? Can you mix it by hand with a whisk? HELP!!! And, I know you are laughing with me, not at me. |
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Re: Good Review
Wilhelm Hansen
Hi Rick,
it also makes you wonder as to whether the use of a zapper while on the Budwig protocol is really of any value. Wilhelm Great Point Wilhelm Also thinking of how staph aurous keeps 'evolving' ahead of medicine = it seems more like the bodys (or higher intelligence) evolves germs for a housekeeping function. Rather than germs being a cause they are only 'made' in an attempt to clean up the pollution mess. So Budwig's protocol deals with causes and germs are secondary. Rick --- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "Wilhelm Hansen" <wilhelmh@t...> wrote: > Nice review Rick. > > It is interesting to note that in point 7 where he says "EFAs, particularly Omega 3, have been shown to decrease growth of cancer cells, candida, and various anaerobic organisms destructive to human health of the body." he includes "anaerobic organisms". > > Looking at this in connection with point 12 which ends with these words "...she found that within three months the yellow-green was replaced by red and the cancer disappeared", reminds me of what Dr.Budwig says in her book "Das Fettsyndrom" (The Fat Syndrome) p.82. > > She says that she observed micro-organisms in the blood of cancer patients. She goes into detail about them with pictures. She also says that she does not see them as the cause of cancer but rather as creatures that develop in the pathological environment of the blood (in cancer patients). This is how it ties in with the above: She says that these organisms disappear at the rate that the yellow-green substance in the blood disappears. > > Wilhelm |
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Re: Beads in the mixture
Delano Eaton
Would orange juice (or any juice) work just as well? This probably
sounds nip-picky but I jusy want to be sure. At this point I am thinking my mix is water soluable as it looks the same as the mix with cc. Del Wilhelm Hansen wrote: Hi Cheryl,seems like a good method of verifying as to whether the oil had become fully water soluble or not. As you say, it should only be necessary for those who start out and who are unsure about what they are doing. It beats the method with the magnifying glass which seems to cause some confusion. and how they will know if it is mixed properly I advise them to make the fo/ccmixture (2tbl spoons oil with 4 tbl spoons cc for starters), and aftermixing add 1/2 cup diluted grape juice to the mixture. If there is oilvisible on the surface, it is very clear that the mixture is not water soluble.There should be no oil on the surface of this mixture. The grape juicecan be replaced with carrot juice etc. - it tastes great and is a sureway to find out if your mixture is water soluble.doing it correctly. |
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Re: Beads in the mixture
Wilhelm Hansen
Hi Cheryl,
adding juice to your fo/cc and watching whether the FO will separate seems like a good method of verifying as to whether the oil had become fully water soluble or not. As you say, it should only be necessary for those who start out and who are unsure about what they are doing. It beats the method with the magnifying glass which seems to cause some confusion. Regards, Wilhelm Dear group, When people first come to me asking for help with their mixture and how they will know if it is mixed properly I advise them to make the fo/cc mixture (2tbl spoons oil with 4 tbl spoons cc for starters), and after mixing add 1/2 cup diluted grape juice to the mixture. If there is oil visible on the surface, it is very clear that the mixture is not water soluble. There should be no oil on the surface of this mixture. The grape juice can be replaced with carrot juice etc. - it tastes great and is a sure way to find out if your mixture is water soluble. An easy way for people starting out to make sure that they are doing it correctly. Best wishes Cheryl |
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Re: FO and CC questions
Wilhelm Hansen
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welcome to the group. The Budwig Diet calls for the fo/cc mixture AND freshly ground flaxseeds. Not one or the other. You will find that explained in our files. Please go to our Yahoo site and click on "Files" on the left and then go to "Budwig Diet". You will also find an indication of the amounts in the same file. I have seen reports of people beating cancer with as little as 2 tblsp of FO a day mixed with the required quantity of CC. That is low and it obviously would not be as effective as the higher levels given in the file. I believe someone with cancer should go with at least the 3 tblsp FO in Dr.Budwig's Muesli. In serious cases 6 tblsp FO are often used. I have even heard of more. For prevention we use the formula of 1 tbsp FO for each 100 lb of body weight - always in a fo/cc mixture. Your question "Is there a danger of eating too much" is interesting. Eating too much of any food is not good. What is "too much" and what is the right amount depends on the individual and on the individual's condition IMO. If a person's health condition improves on a certain amount, then that amount seems to be right - at least for a while, after which it may need to be adjusted. The levels of FO given in our files are based on what Dr.Budwig had her patients take. She obviously found them to be right and beneficial. They have also been used by many others with good success. Honey and fruit do not have a negative impact on the fo/cc mixture so long as the fo/cc is mixed first. Honey can be mixed with it right away but fruit, nuts, flavourings and other non-dairy foods should be added after. Wilhelm ----- Original Message -----
From: rv_weber To: FlaxSeedOil2@... Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 4:23 AM Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] FO and CC questions I am new to the group, and will no doubt ask questions that you guys have already answered - so, I apologize in advance. If you want to point me to previous posts feel free to do so. And thanks for any and all help. First, I have seen two versions of the FO and CC mixture - one implies you use FO AND freshly ground up flax seed. The other makes it sound like it is one or the other, but not both. Which is correct. Second, I always see "eat some of this daily". But, what does that mean? How much is some? What is the minimum amount that will still have an impact? Is there a danger of eating too much? Finally, will mixing things like honedy and fruit have any negative impact on the mixture? Thanks again. |
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Re: FO and CC questions
OK - I think after further reading I have found the answer to my
questions. The recipe calls for both FO and flax seed. I found the amount to take daily. It appears there is no problem mixing honey and fruit - in fact, many recipes include them. If I am wrong on any of the above, please correct me. Thanks! --- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "rv_weber" <rv_weber@y...> wrote: I am new to the group, and will no doubt ask questions that you guysand all help.correct.
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Re: Beads in the mixture-Wilhelm&Cheryl
Delano Eaton
Thanks Cheryl, I don't mean to run this subject into the ground as I
do think it is of utmost importance. When I mix the oil with my kefir there is no more residue of oil than if I mix it with CC. This residue can only be seen with a magnifing glass. With the magnifing glass there are no yellow beads, it is a cream colored glistening. Possiblly smaller that the head of a needle. With the naked eye it totally looks like cream and will stay looking that way, even if I put it into the fridge for a few hours. Everybody seems to have missed my post, I think, a few days ago, when I used Nancy's low fat CC. I saw the same residue, then, as I see when mixing using kefir! If it were not water soluable then it would separate after it sits and I would be able to see real oil instead of only glistening, I think. After my experiment, (mixing with a hand-mixer and using CC and seeing the same glistening as I see with my kefir) I am inclined to believe that my kefir mix is indeed water-soluable! I guess the discussion goes back to just how you mix and how long...whisk, elec hand mixer or blender. Then ask yourself this question: "does it separate after sitting and do I see the yellow oil". Del Cheryl wrote: Hi Del,mixture, it is clearly not water soluble. This is a delicious drink and tasteslike a fruit/veg shake. And yes, you are 100% right, the no. 1 appliance is of |
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FO and CC questions
I am new to the group, and will no doubt ask questions that you guys
have already answered - so, I apologize in advance. If you want to point me to previous posts feel free to do so. And thanks for any and all help. First, I have seen two versions of the FO and CC mixture - one implies you use FO AND freshly ground up flax seed. The other makes it sound like it is one or the other, but not both. Which is correct. Second, I always see "eat some of this daily". But, what does that mean? How much is some? What is the minimum amount that will still have an impact? Is there a danger of eating too much? Finally, will mixing things like honedy and fruit have any negative impact on the mixture? Thanks again. |
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Re: Beads in the mixture
Cheryl du Toit
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No, I don't think the colour has anything to do with seeing the oil. If there is oil floating on the surface, no matter what colour the mixture, it is clearly not water soluble. This is a delicious drink and tastes like a fruit/veg shake. And yes, you are 100% right, the no. 1 appliance is of course your juicer. Dr Budwig states that ALL food should be freshly prepared and I think that includes all juices. If the grape juice is pasturized it is obviously not fresh and I would not use that. Keep well Cheryl -------Original Message-------
From: FlaxSeedOil2@... Date: 13 July 2004 05:21:36 AM To: FlaxSeedOil2@... Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: Beads in the mixture I don't understand. Is it the color that the grape juice provides that helps you to see the oil better? My mix also has no beads after I have added fruit, F seeds etc and will stay that way in the fridge for as much as a few hours (that is all the longer I have let it sit). I personally would not add any juice that has not been fresh squeezed. Is your grape juice pasturized? Del |
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Re: breast cancer
Carolyn J. Kreibich
radjfarkas wrote:
So the question is does the I also had breast cancer. In my opinion, the cottage cheese with flax oil and ground flaxseeds outweigh the growth hormone situation. The ONLY dairy that I eat is the cottage cheese that I use for my cc/fo/flaxseeds mixture. I have now gone 3 1/2 years with no evidence of disease. Remember to add the ground flaxseeds to your mixture. Research from Canada had positive results with breast cancer patients using ground flaxseeds. Carolyn |
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