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Cliff Beckwith
 

Hi,

Nothing thrills me more than seeing a discussion on the need for more
complete documentation of the testimonies given on
www.beckwithfamily.com and other places.

How badly it is needed!! Another thing worth mentioning is that at
least some other websites talking about FO/CC were inspired by this one
and begun by those with further vision.

I tried to do some further documentation to some extent earlier but it
was physically impossible. It would take a large research staff to
keep track of just the ones of which I have known.

None of the testimonials on our site are made up. Poor results are not
left out. They are complete and as accurate as I can make them as to
what has happened.

However, they are not worth a lot as to research. They are worth a lot
to those with cancer who are facing an early or certain death. Just
this morning a lady called from an area in Kentucky who has Ovarian
Cancer. Doctors are holding out no hope. She was going to order the
oil as soon as she hung up. She knows the odds. She also knows that
this is her only chance and she is eager to get going.

If she has success others will observe that and the practice will
spread.

That is all I can do. The facts and buildup on this list may eventually
inspire some research people motivated by more than money to really put
some time in this area.

Universities are doing research on Flax Oil but not to my knowledge with
the cottage cheese connection which makes it effective.

Everyone that finds success, or even failure if the reasons for that
failure are given, will help somone else and increase the knowledge
that is needed.

Cliff

My former Oncologist, Dr. Petra Ketterl, is treating patients now and
doing research in the Alternatives Division of the Cancer treatment
Centers of America at Tulsa Oklahoma. She is one who is getting
underway with what is needed.
Re: OT--sauerkraut & types of fermentation

Free Minded
 

Sauerkraut juice is from lactofermentation, I believe this is the one that is recommended. Check properly and health food store have this one to sell.

Diane









----Original Message Follows----
From: "Leonard" <leonardleonard1@...>
Reply-To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] OT--sauerkraut & types of fermentation
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 21:15:43 -0400

From: "esred sez myrna" <notes4mld@...>
<<Where is everyone getting the sauerkraut juice? from purchased
sauerkraut? Do you also eat it? I/ve tried to make my own sauerkraut
a few times to avoid consuming the high amt of salt in the commercial
products >>

In addition to the salt (which I believe is best avoided), I belive
it's important that it be fermented w/lactic acid rather than
w/vinegar. I believe most store-bought sauerkraut is the latter. It
may be best to buy your own.
I heard of but have never seen Eden brand lactic acid fermented carrot
Juice; perhaps they make other fermented products.

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Re: Budwig successes worldwide database

mhwhitney1
 

Hi All,

I was going to wait to post but Ric's letter struck a chord with me.
I came into this group via a reference from a newsletter with
reference made to Bill Henderson's web site. One of the letters in
his archive was on the Budwig protocol and his monitoring of this
group. The internet is a powerful thing and the possibility of
sharing this information today is dramatic compared to the 1950's
when Budwig was doing her groundbreaking work.

I have never been concerned with cancer....not in either side of my
family. I was drawn to the mention of flax oil because of my search
for better ways to manage menopause without hormones. In reading over
the protocol, I thought this just makes sense for overall health.
It's cheap and real food. Since I have been taking it...about a
month, my menopausal symptoms have greatly diminished...fewer
hotflashes, better lubrication, mood greatly enhanced, better
workouts, sleep is less disturbed. I am convinced that it is great
for even healthy people like myself and I am telling everyone I know.
Of course we have no control of how anyone will receive the message,
as most of you know.

Thanks to all the regulars who post. I have learned so much from you
and truly enjoy the links this board has mentioned. I look forward to
the digest received every day and have gotten a great education!

Mary-Helen Whitney










--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "rickmuenzer" <rickam@c...>
wrote:
Hi Catherine & All

I agree that testimonials have very little 'teeth' - after all you
can
read 1000s of fake testimonials on 'snake oil' products all over the
internet. There are several other web pages that promote FO/CC with
testimonials beside this group =

But consider that Budwig used her formula (INCLUDING SUNLIGHT) is
for
ALL DISEASES, because it deals with the primary causes of All
Diseases. If you are any members wish to truly understand the causes
just go to the files and start with Budwig's presentation: Flax Oil
As
a True Aid Against Arthritis, Heart Infarction, Cancer and Other
Diseases. The other files will paint a more complete picture
including
the cell structure defined by Peter Mitchell: The Power of the
Membrane

BTW: Wilhelm could you enable the Links Area of the group? There
are
now 100's of web pages worth linking to on the Budwig protocol.

Thanks
Rick

--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "Catherine Coy"
<catherinecoy@c...> wrote:
But, Ulla, those testimonials have no "teeth." You and I could
compose them all day long if we wanted to. A database contains full
names and contact info; the testimonials mention only first name and
initial and, thus, aren't considered "bona fide."

There must be a way to get wider exposure of this cure.


----- Original Message -----
From: crystalpyramid@s...
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 4:17 PM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: Budwig successes worldwide database


you wrote:
>Do you know if there's a worldwide database for logging the
successes (and
>failures, to be fair) of Dr. Budwig's treatment according to
malady? That
>seems to me to be the way that people can verify and gain trust
in the
>protocol. The reason so many turn to caustic conventional
treatments is
>that it has alleged "statistics-based evidence" to back it up.


well Catherine, if that existed I wonder if this group would be
what it is,
i.e. a grassroots movement ...

this is pioneering work what is being done here and the database
you are
speaking of is created by "you and me" so to speak... The Files
section of
this group as well as www.beckwithfamily.com are the major
resources for
testimonials to my knowledge... hopefully, this will grow into a
worldwide
database!

btw a similar question has been discussed before and can be
found
in the
archives...

Ulla



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Cliff - Otto

Carolyn J. Kreibich
 

Cliff,

I was just going through some old email that I had printed when I ran
across the letter from your cousin Otto who had visited Dr. Budwig. How
is Otto doing?

Carolyn
Re: Budwig successes worldwide database

Catherine Coy
 

I think I read somewhere that by her lack of "extremely meticulous, comprehensive documentation," she got in her own way. Then, again, a "collective consciousness" committed to barring the door to fantastic discoveries will use any excuse to do so.

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Dorfman
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: Budwig successes worldwide database


I agree with Catherine. There has to be extremely meticulous, comprehensive
documentation.
Verify, verify, verify. All prior test results; all doctor reports etc.
Why hasn't some enterprising Ph D. student, or some entity like the Canadian
Flax council done a field study and really try to nail some of these
anecdotal studies down ?
Especially since Flax and prostate cancer is now being researched at top
universities (e.g. Duke)


----- Original Message -----
From: "Catherine Coy" <catherinecoy@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: Budwig successes worldwide database


> But, Ulla, those testimonials have no "teeth." You and I could compose
them all day long if we wanted to. A database contains full names and
contact info; the testimonials mention only first name and initial and,
thus, aren't considered "bona fide."
>
> There must be a way to get wider exposure of this cure.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: crystalpyramid@...
> To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 4:17 PM
> Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: Budwig successes worldwide database
>
>
> you wrote:
> >Do you know if there's a worldwide database for logging the successes
(and
> >failures, to be fair) of Dr. Budwig's treatment according to malady?
That
> >seems to me to be the way that people can verify and gain trust in the
> >protocol. The reason so many turn to caustic conventional treatments
is
> >that it has alleged "statistics-based evidence" to back it up.
>
>
> well Catherine, if that existed I wonder if this group would be what it
is,
> i.e. a grassroots movement ...
>
> this is pioneering work what is being done here and the database you are
> speaking of is created by "you and me" so to speak... The Files section
of
> this group as well as www.beckwithfamily.com are the major resources for
> testimonials to my knowledge... hopefully, this will grow into a
worldwide
> database!
>
> btw a similar question has been discussed before and can be found in the
> archives...
>
> Ulla
>
>
>
> Note:
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not intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult your doctor
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Re: Budwig successes worldwide database

Catherine Coy
 

In fact, Michael, another famous Michael is absolutely totally committed to finding a cure for prostate cancer: Michael Milken. Read his story here.



And see how he's at least trying to think outside the box. However, in my opinion, unless and until he fully examines the Budwig Protocol (known for its prostate cancer cures) , he's not thinkin' fast enough.

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Dorfman
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: Budwig successes worldwide database


I agree with Catherine. There has to be extremely meticulous, comprehensive
documentation.
Verify, verify, verify. All prior test results; all doctor reports etc.
Why hasn't some enterprising Ph D. student, or some entity like the Canadian
Flax council done a field study and really try to nail some of these
anecdotal studies down ?
Especially since Flax and prostate cancer is now being researched at top
universities (e.g. Duke)


----- Original Message -----
From: "Catherine Coy" <catherinecoy@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: Budwig successes worldwide database


> But, Ulla, those testimonials have no "teeth." You and I could compose
them all day long if we wanted to. A database contains full names and
contact info; the testimonials mention only first name and initial and,
thus, aren't considered "bona fide."
>
> There must be a way to get wider exposure of this cure.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: crystalpyramid@...
> To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 4:17 PM
> Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: Budwig successes worldwide database
>
>
> you wrote:
> >Do you know if there's a worldwide database for logging the successes
(and
> >failures, to be fair) of Dr. Budwig's treatment according to malady?
That
> >seems to me to be the way that people can verify and gain trust in the
> >protocol. The reason so many turn to caustic conventional treatments
is
> >that it has alleged "statistics-based evidence" to back it up.
>
>
> well Catherine, if that existed I wonder if this group would be what it
is,
> i.e. a grassroots movement ...
>
> this is pioneering work what is being done here and the database you are
> speaking of is created by "you and me" so to speak... The Files section
of
> this group as well as www.beckwithfamily.com are the major resources for
> testimonials to my knowledge... hopefully, this will grow into a
worldwide
> database!
>
> btw a similar question has been discussed before and can be found in the
> archives...
>
> Ulla
>
>
>
> Note:
> The contents of the posts on FlaxSeedOil2 are purely educational and are
not intended to diagnose or treat any illness. Always consult your doctor
about the diagnosis and treatment of health problems.
>
>
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> Note:
> The contents of the posts on FlaxSeedOil2 are purely educational and are
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about the diagnosis and treatment of health problems.
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Re: Juice

Free Minded
 

Myrna,

I just buy it in a health food store, it is organic and already made. I don't do it either, I don't believe I would trust myself as this is so different from what I am used too. In those store, you can buy it and eat it too, it is just that the last time I tried some of it, I did not like it at all. It does not matter how much quality or how good for you it is if you cannot eat it because you the taste is awful. The only saukraut that I was able to eat is cooked just a bit, but cooked.

Diane









----Original Message Follows----
From: esred sez myrna <notes4mld@...>
Reply-To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Juice
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 18:03:04 -0700 (PDT)

Where is everyone getting the sauerkraut juice? from purchased sauerkraut? Do you also eat it? I/ve tried to make my own sauerkraut a few times to avoid consuming the high amt of salt in the commercial products but I don't trust it (my own). I'm afraid to eat it or drink the juice. I don't know if it is safe or maybe unsafe. What are some of your experiences with this, anyone?

Myrna





Catherine Coy <catherinecoy@...> wrote:Diane, fermented foods are supposed to be important in bringing about a
state of alkalinity in the body. I have read about that elsewhere but don't
know how it manifests. Interesting theory that I've seen on lots of
websites.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Free Minded" <freeminded52@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Juice


Question:

Why Dr. Budwig recommends Saukraut Juice to start the day? Would someone
know why this is a good thing to do before eating the musli?

Thanks you,

Diane

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Re: OT--sauerkraut & types of fermentation

 

From: "esred sez myrna" <notes4mld@...>
<<Where is everyone getting the sauerkraut juice? from purchased
sauerkraut? Do you also eat it? I/ve tried to make my own sauerkraut
a few times to avoid consuming the high amt of salt in the commercial
products >>

In addition to the salt (which I believe is best avoided), I belive
it's important that it be fermented w/lactic acid rather than
w/vinegar. I believe most store-bought sauerkraut is the latter. It
may be best to buy your own.
I heard of but have never seen Eden brand lactic acid fermented carrot
Juice; perhaps they make other fermented products.
Re: Juice

Free Minded
 

Catherine,

Thank you. I remember feeling much better than I do now and I had this juice every morning. I don't remember why I stop and from now on, it is going to be every morning again. It does not taste good, but I was used to is then and I will get used to it again.

I am always to acidic mostly since I am born, but it gets very bad and that was helping me to live without using stomach medication. As cancer runs in my family, I want to put all my chances on my sides from now on. I don't have it for now, and hopefully if I am careful I will not have it ever. Hopefully one day, I will be able to eat normally again as in tomatoes and some spices as in black pepper.

Diane











----Original Message Follows----
From: "Catherine Coy" <catherinecoy@...>
Reply-To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Juice
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 17:45:56 -0700

Diane, fermented foods are supposed to be important in bringing about a
state of alkalinity in the body. I have read about that elsewhere but don't
know how it manifests. Interesting theory that I've seen on lots of
websites.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Free Minded" <freeminded52@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Juice


Question:

Why Dr. Budwig recommends Saukraut Juice to start the day? Would someone
know why this is a good thing to do before eating the musli?

Thanks you,

Diane

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Re: Juice

esred sez myrna
 

Where is everyone getting the sauerkraut juice? from purchased sauerkraut? Do you also eat it? I/ve tried to make my own sauerkraut a few times to avoid consuming the high amt of salt in the commercial products but I don't trust it (my own). I'm afraid to eat it or drink the juice. I don't know if it is safe or maybe unsafe. What are some of your experiences with this, anyone?

Myrna





Catherine Coy <catherinecoy@...> wrote:Diane, fermented foods are supposed to be important in bringing about a
state of alkalinity in the body. I have read about that elsewhere but don't
know how it manifests. Interesting theory that I've seen on lots of
websites.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Free Minded" <freeminded52@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Juice


Question:

Why Dr. Budwig recommends Saukraut Juice to start the day? Would someone
know why this is a good thing to do before eating the musli?

Thanks you,

Diane

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Re: Budwig successes worldwide database

Michael Dorfman
 

I agree with Catherine. There has to be extremely meticulous, comprehensive
documentation.
Verify, verify, verify. All prior test results; all doctor reports etc.
Why hasn't some enterprising Ph D. student, or some entity like the Canadian
Flax council done a field study and really try to nail some of these
anecdotal studies down ?
Especially since Flax and prostate cancer is now being researched at top
universities (e.g. Duke)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Catherine Coy" <catherinecoy@...>
To: <FlaxSeedOil2@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: Budwig successes worldwide database


But, Ulla, those testimonials have no "teeth." You and I could compose
them all day long if we wanted to. A database contains full names and
contact info; the testimonials mention only first name and initial and,
thus, aren't considered "bona fide."

There must be a way to get wider exposure of this cure.


----- Original Message -----
From: crystalpyramid@...
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 4:17 PM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: Budwig successes worldwide database


you wrote:
>Do you know if there's a worldwide database for logging the successes
(and
>failures, to be fair) of Dr. Budwig's treatment according to malady?
That
>seems to me to be the way that people can verify and gain trust in the
>protocol. The reason so many turn to caustic conventional treatments
is
>that it has alleged "statistics-based evidence" to back it up.


well Catherine, if that existed I wonder if this group would be what it
is,
i.e. a grassroots movement ...

this is pioneering work what is being done here and the database you are
speaking of is created by "you and me" so to speak... The Files section
of
this group as well as www.beckwithfamily.com are the major resources for
testimonials to my knowledge... hopefully, this will grow into a
worldwide
database!

btw a similar question has been discussed before and can be found in the
archives...

Ulla



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Re: Budwig successes worldwide database

rickmuenzer
 

Hi Catherine & All

I agree that testimonials have very little 'teeth' - after all you can
read 1000s of fake testimonials on 'snake oil' products all over the
internet. There are several other web pages that promote FO/CC with
testimonials beside this group =

But consider that Budwig used her formula (INCLUDING SUNLIGHT) is for
ALL DISEASES, because it deals with the primary causes of All
Diseases. If you are any members wish to truly understand the causes
just go to the files and start with Budwig's presentation: Flax Oil As
a True Aid Against Arthritis, Heart Infarction, Cancer and Other
Diseases. The other files will paint a more complete picture including
the cell structure defined by Peter Mitchell: The Power of the Membrane

BTW: Wilhelm could you enable the Links Area of the group? There are
now 100's of web pages worth linking to on the Budwig protocol.

Thanks
Rick

--- In FlaxSeedOil2@..., "Catherine Coy"
<catherinecoy@c...> wrote:
But, Ulla, those testimonials have no "teeth." You and I could
compose them all day long if we wanted to. A database contains full
names and contact info; the testimonials mention only first name and
initial and, thus, aren't considered "bona fide."

There must be a way to get wider exposure of this cure.


----- Original Message -----
From: crystalpyramid@s...
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 4:17 PM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: Budwig successes worldwide database


you wrote:
>Do you know if there's a worldwide database for logging the
successes (and
>failures, to be fair) of Dr. Budwig's treatment according to
malady? That
>seems to me to be the way that people can verify and gain trust
in the
>protocol. The reason so many turn to caustic conventional
treatments is
>that it has alleged "statistics-based evidence" to back it up.


well Catherine, if that existed I wonder if this group would be
what it is,
i.e. a grassroots movement ...

this is pioneering work what is being done here and the database
you are
speaking of is created by "you and me" so to speak... The Files
section of
this group as well as www.beckwithfamily.com are the major
resources for
testimonials to my knowledge... hopefully, this will grow into a
worldwide
database!

btw a similar question has been discussed before and can be found
in the
archives...

Ulla



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Re: Juice

Catherine Coy
 

Diane, fermented foods are supposed to be important in bringing about a
state of alkalinity in the body. I have read about that elsewhere but don't
know how it manifests. Interesting theory that I've seen on lots of
websites.

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Juice


Question:

Why Dr. Budwig recommends Saukraut Juice to start the day? Would someone
know why this is a good thing to do before eating the musli?

Thanks you,

Diane

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Re: Looking for a specific type of survivor - Melanoma

Michael Dorfman
 

Is the name of the doctor, the name of the patient, and detailed copies of
the patient's
historical records provided in the book.
Thanks

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From: "Wilhelm Hansen" <wilhelmh@...>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Looking for a specific type of survivor -
Melanoma


Catherine,

There is a melanoma case in Dr.Budwig's book "Der Tod des Tumors" (The
Death of the Tumor) p.85.
I will give a partial and lose translation of it and paraphrase the first
paragraph:

A Mrs.Harriett had a malignant melanoma cut out of her thigh. About one
and a half years later she had lymph node metastasis at her left temple,
which was treated with radiation. Four months after that she had lymph node
metastasis at her left neck which were also brought under control with
radiation. Two months after that she had several skin metastasis over her
body. That is when she came to Dr.Budwig, evidently on her own.

What follows are excerpts of a letter from the woman's doctor to
Dr.Budwig:

"A patient of mine, Mrs. Harriett, has recently been treated by you..." A
detailed history with dates follows as outlined above without dates.
"...After your treatment, all lymph nodes and skin metastasis were in
remission. Also, all blood test indicators were normalized. I have never
seen this happening with metastasised malignant melanoma. I would be
extremely thankful if you could tell me which therapy you used. Since I have
another patient with the same illness, I would glad to send her to you so as
to extend her life. On the other hand, I would naturally also gladly treat
this patient here if you would instruct me of the method you used."

Wilhelm



----- Original Message -----
From: cathcoy
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 7:06 PM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Looking for a specific type of survivor


Can anyone recall if there are any survival testimonials using the
Budwig Diet for melanoma patients?






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Re: OT--sauerkraut Juice

 

From: "Free Minded" <freeminded52@...>
Why Dr. Budwig recommends Saukraut Juice to start the day? Would
someone
know why this is a good thing to do before eating the musli?
Fermented vegetables such as sauercraut have been used to treat
cancer.
"fermentation of cabbage...produced...isothiocynates, which prevents
cancer growth, particularly in the breast, colon, lung and liver"; see
also

Re: Juice

Free Minded
 

Question:

Why Dr. Budwig recommends Saukraut Juice to start the day? Would someone know why this is a good thing to do before eating the musli?

Thanks you,

Diane

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Re: Budwig successes worldwide database

Catherine Coy
 

But, Ulla, those testimonials have no "teeth." You and I could compose them all day long if we wanted to. A database contains full names and contact info; the testimonials mention only first name and initial and, thus, aren't considered "bona fide."

There must be a way to get wider exposure of this cure.

----- Original Message -----
From: crystalpyramid@...
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 4:17 PM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Re: Budwig successes worldwide database


you wrote:
>Do you know if there's a worldwide database for logging the successes (and
>failures, to be fair) of Dr. Budwig's treatment according to malady? That
>seems to me to be the way that people can verify and gain trust in the
>protocol. The reason so many turn to caustic conventional treatments is
>that it has alleged "statistics-based evidence" to back it up.


well Catherine, if that existed I wonder if this group would be what it is,
i.e. a grassroots movement ...

this is pioneering work what is being done here and the database you are
speaking of is created by "you and me" so to speak... The Files section of
this group as well as www.beckwithfamily.com are the major resources for
testimonials to my knowledge... hopefully, this will grow into a worldwide
database!

btw a similar question has been discussed before and can be found in the
archives...

Ulla



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Re: Budwig successes worldwide database

[email protected]
 

you wrote:
Do you know if there's a worldwide database for logging the successes (and failures, to be fair) of Dr. Budwig's treatment according to malady? That seems to me to be the way that people can verify and gain trust in the protocol. The reason so many turn to caustic conventional treatments is that it has alleged "statistics-based evidence" to back it up.

well Catherine, if that existed I wonder if this group would be what it is, i.e. a grassroots movement ...

this is pioneering work what is being done here and the database you are speaking of is created by "you and me" so to speak... The Files section of this group as well as www.beckwithfamily.com are the major resources for testimonials to my knowledge... hopefully, this will grow into a worldwide database!

btw a similar question has been discussed before and can be found in the archives...

Ulla
Re: Looking for a specific type of survivor - Melanoma

Catherine Coy
 

That's very encouraging, Wilhelm...thanks for taking the time to find it and translate.

Do you know if there's a worldwide database for logging the successes (and failures, to be fair) of Dr. Budwig's treatment according to malady? That seems to me to be the way that people can verify and gain trust in the protocol. The reason so many turn to caustic conventional treatments is that it has alleged "statistics-based evidence" to back it up.

----- Original Message -----
From: Wilhelm Hansen
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: [FlaxSeedOil2] Looking for a specific type of survivor - Melanoma


Catherine,

There is a melanoma case in Dr.Budwig's book "Der Tod des Tumors" (The Death of the Tumor) p.85.
I will give a partial and lose translation of it and paraphrase the first paragraph:

A Mrs.Harriett had a malignant melanoma cut out of her thigh. About one and a half years later she had lymph node metastasis at her left temple, which was treated with radiation. Four months after that she had lymph node metastasis at her left neck which were also brought under control with radiation. Two months after that she had several skin metastasis over her body. That is when she came to Dr.Budwig, evidently on her own.

What follows are excerpts of a letter from the woman's doctor to Dr.Budwig:

"A patient of mine, Mrs. Harriett, has recently been treated by you..." A detailed history with dates follows as outlined above without dates. "...After your treatment, all lymph nodes and skin metastasis were in remission. Also, all blood test indicators were normalized. I have never seen this happening with metastasised malignant melanoma. I would be extremely thankful if you could tell me which therapy you used. Since I have another patient with the same illness, I would glad to send her to you so as to extend her life. On the other hand, I would naturally also gladly treat this patient here if you would instruct me of the method you used."

Wilhelm



----- Original Message -----
From: cathcoy
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 7:06 PM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Looking for a specific type of survivor


Can anyone recall if there are any survival testimonials using the
Budwig Diet for melanoma patients?





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Re: Looking for a specific type of survivor - Melanoma

Wilhelm Hansen
 

Catherine,

There is a melanoma case in Dr.Budwig's book "Der Tod des Tumors" (The Death of the Tumor) p.85.
I will give a partial and lose translation of it and paraphrase the first paragraph:

A Mrs.Harriett had a malignant melanoma cut out of her thigh. About one and a half years later she had lymph node metastasis at her left temple, which was treated with radiation. Four months after that she had lymph node metastasis at her left neck which were also brought under control with radiation. Two months after that she had several skin metastasis over her body. That is when she came to Dr.Budwig, evidently on her own.

What follows are excerpts of a letter from the woman's doctor to Dr.Budwig:

"A patient of mine, Mrs. Harriett, has recently been treated by you..." A detailed history with dates follows as outlined above without dates. "...After your treatment, all lymph nodes and skin metastasis were in remission. Also, all blood test indicators were normalized. I have never seen this happening with metastasised malignant melanoma. I would be extremely thankful if you could tell me which therapy you used. Since I have another patient with the same illness, I would glad to send her to you so as to extend her life. On the other hand, I would naturally also gladly treat this patient here if you would instruct me of the method you used."

Wilhelm

----- Original Message -----
From: cathcoy
To: FlaxSeedOil2@...
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 7:06 PM
Subject: [FlaxSeedOil2] Looking for a specific type of survivor


Can anyone recall if there are any survival testimonials using the
Budwig Diet for melanoma patients?
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