I don¡¯t object to your new format, Vivian, though I do have a few suggestions.
In the third sentence, I¡¯d change ¡°an election¡± to ¡°the majority of seats¡±.
In the fifth sentence, I¡¯d say ¡°under 40%¡± rather than ¡°only 39%¡±.
In the third paragraph, I¡¯d change ¡°amplifies¡± to ¡°exaggerates¡± and replace the two ¡°nothings¡± with ¡°no seats¡± and ¡°none¡± respectively. ?In the last sentence I¡¯d insert ¡°really¡± between ¡°it¡± and ¡°is¡±.
In the fourth paragraph, I¡¯d insert ¡°provincial¡± before ¡°Electoral Reform Commission¡± or add ¡°appointed by Premier Lord¡± after it.
I note that you have removed reference to the McKenna landslide - where all seats were won based on only 60% or so of the vote. ?I thought that was a great reminder to the PCs of how they too have suffered as a result of our obsolete FPTP system.
At any rate, these are just suggestions.
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Hello again,
I hope I'm not driving you all nuts with this, but I've rewritten the petition. You see, I got to thinking about literacy.?
If we're going to reach more people, we need more accessible writing, especially in NB, which has a pretty low literacy rate. But the original petition text tested as "college level" and "very difficult" according to .
So I rewrote the petition to be easier to read. It says pretty much the same thing, just in different words. Here's the new text.
As long as no one objects, I'd like to go with this version.
Thanks, Vivian Unger
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Thank you so much for your work on this Vivian.? I like the way you think.? I am totally ok with this version of the petition, and, once I am settled in the house here, I will endeavour to carry a copy with me at all?times to get actual signatures and will try to remember to share it often on Facebook.? Setting up a new household and life is not as easy as it used to be!? Have a great day and thank you for your work and commitment to Fair voting. Patti
Hello again,
I hope I'm not driving you all nuts with this, but I've rewritten the petition. You see, I got to thinking about literacy.?
If we're going to reach more people, we need more accessible writing, especially in NB, which has a pretty low literacy rate. But the original petition text tested as "college level" and "very difficult" according to .
So I rewrote the petition to be easier to read. It says pretty much the same thing, just in different words. Here's the new text.
As long as no one objects, I'd like to go with this version.
Thanks, Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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No worries Vivian. ?:O)
Looks great...well done!
Andrea
Hello again,
I hope I'm not driving you all nuts with this, but I've rewritten the petition. You see, I got to thinking about literacy.?
If we're going to reach more people, we need more accessible writing, especially in NB, which has a pretty low literacy rate. But the original petition text tested as "college level" and "very difficult" according to .
So I rewrote the petition to be easier to read. It says pretty much the same thing, just in different words. Here's the new text.
As long as no one objects, I'd like to go with this version.
Thanks, Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 at 16:55, T.J. Hart < harttj@...> wrote: Looks great.?
Tom Hart ? Hello again,
I hope I'm not driving you all nuts with this, but I've rewritten the petition. You see, I got to thinking about literacy.?
If we're going to reach more people, we need more accessible writing, especially in NB, which has a pretty low literacy rate. But the original petition text tested as "college level" and "very difficult" according to .
So I rewrote the petition to be easier to read. It says pretty much the same thing, just in different words. Here's the new text.
As long as no one objects, I'd like to go with this version.
Thanks, Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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-- Vivian Unger
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On Nov 21, 2020, at 13:43, Vivian <vivian.unger@...> wrote:
? Hello again,
I hope I'm not driving you all nuts with this, but I've rewritten the petition. You see, I got to thinking about literacy.?
If we're going to reach more people, we need more accessible writing, especially in NB, which has a pretty low literacy rate. But the original petition text tested as "college level" and "very difficult" according to .
So I rewrote the petition to be easier to read. It says pretty much the same thing, just in different words. Here's the new text.
As long as no one objects, I'd like to go with this version.
Thanks, Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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Hello again,
I hope I'm not driving you all nuts with this, but I've rewritten the petition. You see, I got to thinking about literacy.?
If we're going to reach more people, we need more accessible writing, especially in NB, which has a pretty low literacy rate. But the original petition text tested as "college level" and "very difficult" according to .
So I rewrote the petition to be easier to read. It says pretty much the same thing, just in different words. Here's the new text.
As long as no one objects, I'd like to go with this version.
Thanks, Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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Looks good to me, Vivian.
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OK, how about this then?
"We ask that your honourable house convene a Citizen's Assembly to design and implement a better electoral system in time for the 2024 election." Sounds good, Vivian.
You might add something like ¡°to have a new system in place in time for the next general election."
John
How about this for an alternate ending? We ask that your honourable house convene a Citizen's Assembly to design a better electoral system for New Brunswick.
This is good, Vivian!
Since it's not an official petition why bother with that humbly language at the end? People won't know why it's there.?
You can probably guess that I'd rather see an ask for a Citizens' Assembly without delay since as we've seen no government is just going to bring in PR and if we don't direct them to a good process we will inevitably get the made-to-fail process.?
While it's very important to acknowledge the 2004 report, it was almost 20 years ago now. It's sort of like there's no way the federal Liberals feel the least bit pressured because of the 2004 Law Commission report.
I'd definitely encourage you, when the group is ready, to have me put it on our civi platform. It's not as beautiful looking as a page like??but it means you are adding people to our database (getting emails) that you can communicate with in future - building FVC in NB so when you're ready to do a "next thing" like visit your MLA or lobby for a resolution at a convention there's a list of people to ask.
Glad to see you doing this!
Anita
Hi,
What do you think of this text for a petition? I'd like some feedback. You should be able to suggest edits, if I've set it up properly anyway.?
I'm not happy with the last sentence. It's long and clunky. I based it on the sample text that the NB government website suggests for petitions, and their version is way worse. But this is still bad. Rewording is welcome.
You can see the government's suggested text at? ?. It won't be an official petition because official petitions can only be on paper, so we don't have to follow their formula, which is incredibly butt-kissing and shows no sign of having been updated for the new millennium.
Thanks, -- ?Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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--?Vivian Unger
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OK, how about this then?
"We ask that your honourable house convene a Citizen's Assembly to design and implement a better electoral system in time for the 2024 election."
Sounds good, Vivian.
You might add something like ¡°to have a new system in place in time for the next general election."
John
How about this for an alternate ending? We ask that your honourable house convene a Citizen's Assembly to design a better electoral system for New Brunswick.
This is good, Vivian!
Since it's not an official petition why bother with that humbly language at the end? People won't know why it's there.?
You can probably guess that I'd rather see an ask for a Citizens' Assembly without delay since as we've seen no government is just going to bring in PR and if we don't direct them to a good process we will inevitably get the made-to-fail process.?
While it's very important to acknowledge the 2004 report, it was almost 20 years ago now. It's sort of like there's no way the federal Liberals feel the least bit pressured because of the 2004 Law Commission report.
I'd definitely encourage you, when the group is ready, to have me put it on our civi platform. It's not as beautiful looking as a page like??but it means you are adding people to our database (getting emails) that you can communicate with in future - building FVC in NB so when you're ready to do a "next thing" like visit your MLA or lobby for a resolution at a convention there's a list of people to ask.
Glad to see you doing this!
Anita
Hi,
What do you think of this text for a petition? I'd like some feedback. You should be able to suggest edits, if I've set it up properly anyway.?
I'm not happy with the last sentence. It's long and clunky. I based it on the sample text that the NB government website suggests for petitions, and their version is way worse. But this is still bad. Rewording is welcome.
You can see the government's suggested text at? ?. It won't be an official petition because official petitions can only be on paper, so we don't have to follow their formula, which is incredibly butt-kissing and shows no sign of having been updated for the new millennium.
Thanks, -- ?Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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-- Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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Sounds good, Vivian.
You might add something like ¡°to have a new system in place in time for the next general election."
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How about this for an alternate ending? We ask that your honourable house convene a Citizen's Assembly to design a better electoral system for New Brunswick.
This is good, Vivian!
Since it's not an official petition why bother with that humbly language at the end? People won't know why it's there.?
You can probably guess that I'd rather see an ask for a Citizens' Assembly without delay since as we've seen no government is just going to bring in PR and if we don't direct them to a good process we will inevitably get the made-to-fail process.?
While it's very important to acknowledge the 2004 report, it was almost 20 years ago now. It's sort of like there's no way the federal Liberals feel the least bit pressured because of the 2004 Law Commission report.
I'd definitely encourage you, when the group is ready, to have me put it on our civi platform. It's not as beautiful looking as a page like??but it means you are adding people to our database (getting emails) that you can communicate with in future - building FVC in NB so when you're ready to do a "next thing" like visit your MLA or lobby for a resolution at a convention there's a list of people to ask.
Glad to see you doing this!
Anita
Hi,
What do you think of this text for a petition? I'd like some feedback. You should be able to suggest edits, if I've set it up properly anyway.?
I'm not happy with the last sentence. It's long and clunky. I based it on the sample text that the NB government website suggests for petitions, and their version is way worse. But this is still bad. Rewording is welcome.
You can see the government's suggested text at? ?. It won't be an official petition because official petitions can only be on paper, so we don't have to follow their formula, which is incredibly butt-kissing and shows no sign of having been updated for the new millennium.
Thanks, -- ?Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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I don¡¯t have a coloured map, Vivian. ?If I could find it, I had done a calculation of how that PR system I devised would have worked out. ?It might have been in one of those letters to the editor I sent.
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I think it's a good idea too. I could have an asterisk, like:
* Artist's rendering of the popular vote within electoral districts
I should also have a legend for the colours, rather than assuming that everyone knows what they are.
John, if you have a coloured map showing how the seats would have been allocated given a MMP system with four districts, I'd be interested in seeing that.
Vivian I think that¡¯s a good idea, James. ?
I don¡¯t know exactly which colours apply to which ridings but I have broken the province up into four regions (Northeast, Northwest, Southeast, and Southwest) by ridings, if Vivian is interested in seeing that.
I¡¯ll attach a list along with a brief description of how a Mixed Member Proportional System might work in New Brunswick.? The third attachment is of the 2018 votes cast, riding by riding, so that you can see where I got my figures from.
Does anyone think it would useful to add a note explaining that the additional colouring only represents the proportion of votes cast in an area, not the geographical distribution of the votes?
James
Yes, that's the idea. I looked at the vote % in each riding, and painted in the other party colours in approximately the right amount. I tried to be artsy about it; so if the riding next to it voted for someone else, I'd make it look as if some of that other party bled in over the border. Also, I usually put PANB purple in between Liberal red and PC blue because red and blue blend to make purple. It was fun, like an art project.
Sadly, there's very little NDP orange on the map. That¡¯s an interesting map, Vivian.
It looks like it¡¯s intended to represent portions of regions by the way they voted.
John
Thanks for the offer to host the petition, Anita. I'm happy to take you up on that as long as we can give people an opt-out if they want to sign the petition but they don't want to end up subscribed on FVC. For example, a checkbox they can uncheck. Also, will I be able to include an image? It's always good to have an image; pictures get people's attention. I want to do a meme with this image I made of the popular vote imposed?on a map (attached).
What do you all think about changing the wording to ask for a CA? It's true that the 2004 report is going on 17 years old. And of course, Brian Gallant's commission that recommended AV is best forgotten. So perhaps that's a better approach. This is good, Vivian!
Since it's not an official petition why bother with that humbly language at the end? People won't know why it's there.?
You can probably guess that I'd rather see an ask for a Citizens' Assembly without delay since as we've seen no government is just going to bring in PR and if we don't direct them to a good process we will inevitably get the made-to-fail process.?
While it's very important to acknowledge the 2004 report, it was almost 20 years ago now. It's sort of like there's no way the federal Liberals feel the least bit pressured because of the 2004 Law Commission report.
I'd definitely encourage you, when the group is ready, to have me put it on our civi platform. It's not as beautiful looking as a page like??but it means you are adding people to our database (getting emails) that you can communicate with in future - building FVC in NB so when you're ready to do a "next thing" like visit your MLA or lobby for a resolution at a convention there's a list of people to ask.
Glad to see you doing this!
Anita
Hi,
What do you think of this text for a petition? I'd like some feedback. You should be able to suggest edits, if I've set it up properly anyway.?
I'm not happy with the last sentence. It's long and clunky. I based it on the sample text that the NB government website suggests for petitions, and their version is way worse. But this is still bad. Rewording is welcome.
You can see the government's suggested text at? ?. It won't be an official petition because official petitions can only be on paper, so we don't have to follow their formula, which is incredibly butt-kissing and shows no sign of having been updated for the new millennium.
Thanks, -- ?Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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Proportional representation delivers more of what YOU voted for!?
Sign the Declaration of Voters' Rights:?
--?Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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-- ?Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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-- ?Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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How about this for an alternate ending? We ask that your honourable house convene a Citizen's Assembly to design a better electoral system for New Brunswick.
This is good, Vivian!
Since it's not an official petition why bother with that humbly language at the end? People won't know why it's there.?
You can probably guess that I'd rather see an ask for a Citizens' Assembly without delay since as we've seen no government is just going to bring in PR and if we don't direct them to a good process we will inevitably get the made-to-fail process.?
While it's very important to acknowledge the 2004 report, it was almost 20 years ago now. It's sort of like there's no way the federal Liberals feel the least bit pressured because of the 2004 Law Commission report.
I'd definitely encourage you, when the group is ready, to have me put it on our civi platform. It's not as beautiful looking as a page like but it means you are adding people to our database (getting emails) that you can communicate with in future - building FVC in NB so when you're ready to do a "next thing" like visit your MLA or lobby for a resolution at a convention there's a list of people to ask.
Glad to see you doing this!
Anita
Hi,
What do you think of this text for a petition? I'd like some feedback. You should be able to suggest edits, if I've set it up properly anyway.
I'm not happy with the last sentence. It's long and clunky. I based it on the sample text that the NB government website suggests for petitions, and their version is way worse. But this is still bad. Rewording is welcome.
You can see the government's suggested text at? . It won't be an official petition because official petitions can only be on paper, so we don't have to follow their formula, which is incredibly butt-kissing and shows no sign of having been updated for the new millennium.
Thanks, -- Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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I think it's a good idea too. I could have an asterisk, like:
* Artist's rendering of the popular vote within electoral districts
I should also have a legend for the colours, rather than assuming that everyone knows what they are.
John, if you have a coloured map showing how the seats would have been allocated given a MMP system with four districts, I'd be interested in seeing that.
Vivian
I think that¡¯s a good idea, James. ?
I don¡¯t know exactly which colours apply to which ridings but I have broken the province up into four regions (Northeast, Northwest, Southeast, and Southwest) by ridings, if Vivian is interested in seeing that.
I¡¯ll attach a list along with a brief description of how a Mixed Member Proportional System might work in New Brunswick.? The third attachment is of the 2018 votes cast, riding by riding, so that you can see where I got my figures from.
Does anyone think it would useful to add a note explaining that the additional colouring only represents the proportion of votes cast in an area, not the geographical distribution of the votes?
James
Yes, that's the idea. I looked at the vote % in each riding, and painted in the other party colours in approximately the right amount. I tried to be artsy about it; so if the riding next to it voted for someone else, I'd make it look as if some of that other party bled in over the border. Also, I usually put PANB purple in between Liberal red and PC blue because red and blue blend to make purple. It was fun, like an art project.
Sadly, there's very little NDP orange on the map. That¡¯s an interesting map, Vivian.
It looks like it¡¯s intended to represent portions of regions by the way they voted.
John
Thanks for the offer to host the petition, Anita. I'm happy to take you up on that as long as we can give people an opt-out if they want to sign the petition but they don't want to end up subscribed on FVC. For example, a checkbox they can uncheck. Also, will I be able to include an image? It's always good to have an image; pictures get people's attention. I want to do a meme with this image I made of the popular vote imposed?on a map (attached).
What do you all think about changing the wording to ask for a CA? It's true that the 2004 report is going on 17 years old. And of course, Brian Gallant's commission that recommended AV is best forgotten. So perhaps that's a better approach. This is good, Vivian!
Since it's not an official petition why bother with that humbly language at the end? People won't know why it's there.?
You can probably guess that I'd rather see an ask for a Citizens' Assembly without delay since as we've seen no government is just going to bring in PR and if we don't direct them to a good process we will inevitably get the made-to-fail process.?
While it's very important to acknowledge the 2004 report, it was almost 20 years ago now. It's sort of like there's no way the federal Liberals feel the least bit pressured because of the 2004 Law Commission report.
I'd definitely encourage you, when the group is ready, to have me put it on our civi platform. It's not as beautiful looking as a page like??but it means you are adding people to our database (getting emails) that you can communicate with in future - building FVC in NB so when you're ready to do a "next thing" like visit your MLA or lobby for a resolution at a convention there's a list of people to ask.
Glad to see you doing this!
Anita
Hi,
What do you think of this text for a petition? I'd like some feedback. You should be able to suggest edits, if I've set it up properly anyway.?
I'm not happy with the last sentence. It's long and clunky. I based it on the sample text that the NB government website suggests for petitions, and their version is way worse. But this is still bad. Rewording is welcome.
You can see the government's suggested text at? ?. It won't be an official petition because official petitions can only be on paper, so we don't have to follow their formula, which is incredibly butt-kissing and shows no sign of having been updated for the new millennium.
Thanks, -- ?Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
BOOK INDEXING SERVICES
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--?
Proportional representation delivers more of what YOU voted for!?
Sign the Declaration of Voters' Rights:?
--?Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
BOOK INDEXING SERVICES
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-- ?Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
BOOK INDEXING SERVICES
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-- Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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I think that¡¯s a good idea, James. ?
I don¡¯t know exactly which colours apply to which ridings but I have broken the province up into four regions (Northeast, Northwest, Southeast, and Southwest) by ridings, if Vivian is interested in seeing that.
I¡¯ll attach a list along with a brief description of how a Mixed Member Proportional System might work in New Brunswick. ?The third attachment is of the 2018 votes cast, riding by riding, so that you can see where I got my figures from.
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Does anyone think it would useful to add a note explaining that the additional colouring only represents the proportion of votes cast in an area, not the geographical distribution of the votes?
James
Yes, that's the idea. I looked at the vote % in each riding, and painted in the other party colours in approximately the right amount. I tried to be artsy about it; so if the riding next to it voted for someone else, I'd make it look as if some of that other party bled in over the border. Also, I usually put PANB purple in between Liberal red and PC blue because red and blue blend to make purple. It was fun, like an art project.
Sadly, there's very little NDP orange on the map. That¡¯s an interesting map, Vivian.
It looks like it¡¯s intended to represent portions of regions by the way they voted.
John
Thanks for the offer to host the petition, Anita. I'm happy to take you up on that as long as we can give people an opt-out if they want to sign the petition but they don't want to end up subscribed on FVC. For example, a checkbox they can uncheck. Also, will I be able to include an image? It's always good to have an image; pictures get people's attention. I want to do a meme with this image I made of the popular vote imposed?on a map (attached).
What do you all think about changing the wording to ask for a CA? It's true that the 2004 report is going on 17 years old. And of course, Brian Gallant's commission that recommended AV is best forgotten. So perhaps that's a better approach. This is good, Vivian!
Since it's not an official petition why bother with that humbly language at the end? People won't know why it's there.?
You can probably guess that I'd rather see an ask for a Citizens' Assembly without delay since as we've seen no government is just going to bring in PR and if we don't direct them to a good process we will inevitably get the made-to-fail process.?
While it's very important to acknowledge the 2004 report, it was almost 20 years ago now. It's sort of like there's no way the federal Liberals feel the least bit pressured because of the 2004 Law Commission report.
I'd definitely encourage you, when the group is ready, to have me put it on our civi platform. It's not as beautiful looking as a page like??but it means you are adding people to our database (getting emails) that you can communicate with in future - building FVC in NB so when you're ready to do a "next thing" like visit your MLA or lobby for a resolution at a convention there's a list of people to ask.
Glad to see you doing this!
Anita
Hi,
What do you think of this text for a petition? I'd like some feedback. You should be able to suggest edits, if I've set it up properly anyway.?
I'm not happy with the last sentence. It's long and clunky. I based it on the sample text that the NB government website suggests for petitions, and their version is way worse. But this is still bad. Rewording is welcome.
You can see the government's suggested text at? ?. It won't be an official petition because official petitions can only be on paper, so we don't have to follow their formula, which is incredibly butt-kissing and shows no sign of having been updated for the new millennium.
Thanks, -- ?Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
BOOK INDEXING SERVICES
FICTION
--?
Proportional representation delivers more of what YOU voted for!?
Sign the Declaration of Voters' Rights:?
--?Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
BOOK INDEXING SERVICES
FICTION
-- ?Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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Does anyone think it would useful to add a note explaining that the additional colouring only represents the proportion of votes cast in an area, not the geographical distribution of the votes?
James
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Yes, that's the idea. I looked at the vote % in each riding, and painted in the other party colours in approximately the right amount. I tried to be artsy about it; so if the riding next to it voted for someone else, I'd make it look as if some
of that other party bled in over the border. Also, I usually put PANB purple in between Liberal red and PC blue because red and blue blend to make purple. It was fun, like an art project.
Sadly, there's very little NDP orange on the map.
That¡¯s an interesting map, Vivian.
It looks like it¡¯s intended to represent portions of regions by the way they voted.
John
Thanks for the offer to host the petition, Anita. I'm happy to take you up on that as long as we can give people an opt-out if they want to sign the petition but they don't want to end up subscribed on FVC. For example, a checkbox they can uncheck. Also,
will I be able to include an image? It's always good to have an image; pictures get people's attention. I want to do a meme with this image I made of the popular vote imposed?on a map (attached).
What do you all think about changing the wording to ask for a CA? It's true that the 2004 report is going on 17 years old. And of course, Brian Gallant's commission that recommended AV is best forgotten. So perhaps that's a better approach.
This is good, Vivian!
Since it's not an official petition why bother with that humbly language at the end? People won't know why it's there.?
You can probably guess that I'd rather see an ask for a Citizens' Assembly without delay since as we've seen no government is just going to bring in PR and if we don't direct them to a good process we will inevitably get the made-to-fail process.?
While it's very important to acknowledge the 2004 report, it was almost 20 years ago now. It's sort of like there's no way the federal Liberals feel the least bit pressured because of the 2004 Law Commission report.
I'd definitely encourage you, when the group is ready, to have me put it on our civi platform. It's not as beautiful looking as a page like??but it means you are adding
people to our database (getting emails) that you can communicate with in future - building FVC in NB so when you're ready to do a "next thing" like visit your MLA or lobby for a resolution at a convention there's a list of people to ask.
Glad to see you doing this!
Anita
Hi,
What do you think of this text for a petition? I'd like some feedback. You should be able to suggest edits, if I've set it up properly anyway.?
I'm not happy with the last sentence. It's long and clunky. I based it on the sample text that the NB government website suggests for petitions, and their version is way worse. But this is still bad. Rewording is welcome.
You can see the government's suggested text at? ?. It won't be an official petition
because official petitions can only be on paper, so we don't have to follow their formula, which is incredibly butt-kissing and shows no sign of having been updated for the new millennium.
Thanks,
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Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada
Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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Fredericton, NB, Canada
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For you, happy to put an opt-out box :)
Thanks for the offer to host the petition, Anita. I'm happy to take you up on that as long as we can give people an opt-out if they want to sign the petition but they don't want to end up subscribed on FVC. For example, a checkbox they can uncheck. Also, will I be able to include an image? It's always good to have an image; pictures get people's attention. I want to do a meme with this image I made of the popular vote imposed?on a map (attached).
What do you all think about changing the wording to ask for a CA? It's true that the 2004 report is going on 17 years old. And of course, Brian Gallant's commission that recommended AV is best forgotten. So perhaps that's a better approach.
This is good, Vivian!
Since it's not an official petition why bother with that humbly language at the end? People won't know why it's there.?
You can probably guess that I'd rather see an ask for a Citizens' Assembly without delay since as we've seen no government is just going to bring in PR and if we don't direct them to a good process we will inevitably get the made-to-fail process.?
While it's very important to acknowledge the 2004 report, it was almost 20 years ago now. It's sort of like there's no way the federal Liberals feel the least bit pressured because of the 2004 Law Commission report.
I'd definitely encourage you, when the group is ready, to have me put it on our civi platform. It's not as beautiful looking as a page like but it means you are adding people to our database (getting emails) that you can communicate with in future - building FVC in NB so when you're ready to do a "next thing" like visit your MLA or lobby for a resolution at a convention there's a list of people to ask.
Glad to see you doing this!
Anita
Hi,
What do you think of this text for a petition? I'd like some feedback. You should be able to suggest edits, if I've set it up properly anyway.
I'm not happy with the last sentence. It's long and clunky. I based it on the sample text that the NB government website suggests for petitions, and their version is way worse. But this is still bad. Rewording is welcome.
You can see the government's suggested text at? . It won't be an official petition because official petitions can only be on paper, so we don't have to follow their formula, which is incredibly butt-kissing and shows no sign of having been updated for the new millennium.
Thanks, -- Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
BOOK INDEXING SERVICES
FICTION
--
Proportional representation delivers more of what YOU voted for!?
Sign the Declaration of Voters' Rights:
--
Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
BOOK INDEXING SERVICES
FICTION
--
Proportional representation delivers more of what YOU voted for!?
Sign the Declaration of Voters' Rights:
-- Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
BOOK INDEXING SERVICES
FICTION
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For you, happy to put an opt-out box :)
Thanks for the offer to host the petition, Anita. I'm happy to take you up on that as long as we can give people an opt-out if they want to sign the petition but they don't want to end up subscribed on FVC. For example, a checkbox they can uncheck. Also, will I be able to include an image? It's always good to have an image; pictures get people's attention. I want to do a meme with this image I made of the popular vote imposed?on a map (attached).
What do you all think about changing the wording to ask for a CA? It's true that the 2004 report is going on 17 years old. And of course, Brian Gallant's commission that recommended AV is best forgotten. So perhaps that's a better approach.
This is good, Vivian!
Since it's not an official petition why bother with that humbly language at the end? People won't know why it's there.?
You can probably guess that I'd rather see an ask for a Citizens' Assembly without delay since as we've seen no government is just going to bring in PR and if we don't direct them to a good process we will inevitably get the made-to-fail process.?
While it's very important to acknowledge the 2004 report, it was almost 20 years ago now. It's sort of like there's no way the federal Liberals feel the least bit pressured because of the 2004 Law Commission report.
I'd definitely encourage you, when the group is ready, to have me put it on our civi platform. It's not as beautiful looking as a page like but it means you are adding people to our database (getting emails) that you can communicate with in future - building FVC in NB so when you're ready to do a "next thing" like visit your MLA or lobby for a resolution at a convention there's a list of people to ask.
Glad to see you doing this!
Anita
Hi,
What do you think of this text for a petition? I'd like some feedback. You should be able to suggest edits, if I've set it up properly anyway.
I'm not happy with the last sentence. It's long and clunky. I based it on the sample text that the NB government website suggests for petitions, and their version is way worse. But this is still bad. Rewording is welcome.
You can see the government's suggested text at? . It won't be an official petition because official petitions can only be on paper, so we don't have to follow their formula, which is incredibly butt-kissing and shows no sign of having been updated for the new millennium.
Thanks, -- Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
BOOK INDEXING SERVICES
FICTION
--
Proportional representation delivers more of what YOU voted for!?
Sign the Declaration of Voters' Rights:
--
Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
BOOK INDEXING SERVICES
FICTION
-- Proportional representation delivers more of what YOU voted for!?
Sign the Declaration of Voters' Rights:
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Yes, that's the idea. I looked at the vote % in each riding, and painted in the other party colours in approximately the right amount. I tried to be artsy about it; so if the riding next to it voted for someone else, I'd make it look as if some of that other party bled in over the border. Also, I usually put PANB purple in between Liberal red and PC blue because red and blue blend to make purple. It was fun, like an art project.
Sadly, there's very little NDP orange on the map.
That¡¯s an interesting map, Vivian.
It looks like it¡¯s intended to represent portions of regions by the way they voted.
John
Thanks for the offer to host the petition, Anita. I'm happy to take you up on that as long as we can give people an opt-out if they want to sign the petition but they don't want to end up subscribed on FVC. For example, a checkbox they can uncheck. Also, will I be able to include an image? It's always good to have an image; pictures get people's attention. I want to do a meme with this image I made of the popular vote imposed?on a map (attached).
What do you all think about changing the wording to ask for a CA? It's true that the 2004 report is going on 17 years old. And of course, Brian Gallant's commission that recommended AV is best forgotten. So perhaps that's a better approach. This is good, Vivian!
Since it's not an official petition why bother with that humbly language at the end? People won't know why it's there.?
You can probably guess that I'd rather see an ask for a Citizens' Assembly without delay since as we've seen no government is just going to bring in PR and if we don't direct them to a good process we will inevitably get the made-to-fail process.?
While it's very important to acknowledge the 2004 report, it was almost 20 years ago now. It's sort of like there's no way the federal Liberals feel the least bit pressured because of the 2004 Law Commission report.
I'd definitely encourage you, when the group is ready, to have me put it on our civi platform. It's not as beautiful looking as a page like??but it means you are adding people to our database (getting emails) that you can communicate with in future - building FVC in NB so when you're ready to do a "next thing" like visit your MLA or lobby for a resolution at a convention there's a list of people to ask.
Glad to see you doing this!
Anita
Hi,
What do you think of this text for a petition? I'd like some feedback. You should be able to suggest edits, if I've set it up properly anyway.?
I'm not happy with the last sentence. It's long and clunky. I based it on the sample text that the NB government website suggests for petitions, and their version is way worse. But this is still bad. Rewording is welcome.
You can see the government's suggested text at? ?. It won't be an official petition because official petitions can only be on paper, so we don't have to follow their formula, which is incredibly butt-kissing and shows no sign of having been updated for the new millennium.
Thanks, -- ?Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
BOOK INDEXING SERVICES
FICTION
--?
Proportional representation delivers more of what YOU voted for!?
Sign the Declaration of Voters' Rights:?
--?Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
BOOK INDEXING SERVICES
FICTION
-- Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
BOOK INDEXING SERVICES
FICTION
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That¡¯s an interesting map, Vivian.
It looks like it¡¯s intended to represent portions of regions by the way they voted.
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Thanks for the offer to host the petition, Anita. I'm happy to take you up on that as long as we can give people an opt-out if they want to sign the petition but they don't want to end up subscribed on FVC. For example, a checkbox they can uncheck. Also, will I be able to include an image? It's always good to have an image; pictures get people's attention. I want to do a meme with this image I made of the popular vote imposed?on a map (attached).
What do you all think about changing the wording to ask for a CA? It's true that the 2004 report is going on 17 years old. And of course, Brian Gallant's commission that recommended AV is best forgotten. So perhaps that's a better approach. This is good, Vivian!
Since it's not an official petition why bother with that humbly language at the end? People won't know why it's there.?
You can probably guess that I'd rather see an ask for a Citizens' Assembly without delay since as we've seen no government is just going to bring in PR and if we don't direct them to a good process we will inevitably get the made-to-fail process.?
While it's very important to acknowledge the 2004 report, it was almost 20 years ago now. It's sort of like there's no way the federal Liberals feel the least bit pressured because of the 2004 Law Commission report.
I'd definitely encourage you, when the group is ready, to have me put it on our civi platform. It's not as beautiful looking as a page like??but it means you are adding people to our database (getting emails) that you can communicate with in future - building FVC in NB so when you're ready to do a "next thing" like visit your MLA or lobby for a resolution at a convention there's a list of people to ask.
Glad to see you doing this!
Anita
Hi,
What do you think of this text for a petition? I'd like some feedback. You should be able to suggest edits, if I've set it up properly anyway.?
I'm not happy with the last sentence. It's long and clunky. I based it on the sample text that the NB government website suggests for petitions, and their version is way worse. But this is still bad. Rewording is welcome.
You can see the government's suggested text at? ?. It won't be an official petition because official petitions can only be on paper, so we don't have to follow their formula, which is incredibly butt-kissing and shows no sign of having been updated for the new millennium.
Thanks, -- ?Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
BOOK INDEXING SERVICES
FICTION
--?
Proportional representation delivers more of what YOU voted for!?
Sign the Declaration of Voters' Rights:?
--?Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
BOOK INDEXING SERVICES
FICTION
|
Thanks for the offer to host the petition, Anita. I'm happy to take you up on that as long as we can give people an opt-out if they want to sign the petition but they don't want to end up subscribed on FVC. For example, a checkbox they can uncheck. Also, will I be able to include an image? It's always good to have an image; pictures get people's attention. I want to do a meme with this image I made of the popular vote imposed?on a map (attached).
What do you all think about changing the wording to ask for a CA? It's true that the 2004 report is going on 17 years old. And of course, Brian Gallant's commission that recommended AV is best forgotten. So perhaps that's a better approach.
This is good, Vivian!
Since it's not an official petition why bother with that humbly language at the end? People won't know why it's there.?
You can probably guess that I'd rather see an ask for a Citizens' Assembly without delay since as we've seen no government is just going to bring in PR and if we don't direct them to a good process we will inevitably get the made-to-fail process.?
While it's very important to acknowledge the 2004 report, it was almost 20 years ago now. It's sort of like there's no way the federal Liberals feel the least bit pressured because of the 2004 Law Commission report.
I'd definitely encourage you, when the group is ready, to have me put it on our civi platform. It's not as beautiful looking as a page like but it means you are adding people to our database (getting emails) that you can communicate with in future - building FVC in NB so when you're ready to do a "next thing" like visit your MLA or lobby for a resolution at a convention there's a list of people to ask.
Glad to see you doing this!
Anita
Hi,
What do you think of this text for a petition? I'd like some feedback. You should be able to suggest edits, if I've set it up properly anyway.
I'm not happy with the last sentence. It's long and clunky. I based it on the sample text that the NB government website suggests for petitions, and their version is way worse. But this is still bad. Rewording is welcome.
You can see the government's suggested text at? . It won't be an official petition because official petitions can only be on paper, so we don't have to follow their formula, which is incredibly butt-kissing and shows no sign of having been updated for the new millennium.
Thanks, -- Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
BOOK INDEXING SERVICES
FICTION
--
Proportional representation delivers more of what YOU voted for!?
Sign the Declaration of Voters' Rights:
-- Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
BOOK INDEXING SERVICES
FICTION
|
This is good, Vivian!
Since it's not an official petition why bother with that humbly language at the end? People won't know why it's there.?
You can probably guess that I'd rather see an ask for a Citizens' Assembly without delay since as we've seen no government is just going to bring in PR and if we don't direct them to a good process we will inevitably get the made-to-fail process.?
While it's very important to acknowledge the 2004 report, it was almost 20 years ago now. It's sort of like there's no way the federal Liberals feel the least bit pressured because of the 2004 Law Commission report.
I'd definitely encourage you, when the group is ready, to have me put it on our civi platform. It's not as beautiful looking as a page like but it means you are adding people to our database (getting emails) that you can communicate with in future - building FVC in NB so when you're ready to do a "next thing" like visit your MLA or lobby for a resolution at a convention there's a list of people to ask.
Glad to see you doing this!
Anita
Hi,
What do you think of this text for a petition? I'd like some feedback. You should be able to suggest edits, if I've set it up properly anyway.
I'm not happy with the last sentence. It's long and clunky. I based it on the sample text that the NB government website suggests for petitions, and their version is way worse. But this is still bad. Rewording is welcome.
You can see the government's suggested text at? . It won't be an official petition because official petitions can only be on paper, so we don't have to follow their formula, which is incredibly butt-kissing and shows no sign of having been updated for the new millennium.
Thanks, -- Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
BOOK INDEXING SERVICES
FICTION
-- Proportional representation delivers more of what YOU voted for!?
Sign the Declaration of Voters' Rights:
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