Hi,
Just want to let you know that FairVoting4NB has a website now:?
?
And a T-shirt!?
Let me know what you think. I'm eager for feedback and suggestions.
-- Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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Sunday Afternoon with David Coon
David Coon, the incumbent for Fredericton South, will be on the southside green by the old railway bridge tomorrow at 3pm. If you happen to be going by there, it might be a good opportunity to ask him about PR; for example, when he plans to bring Kevin Arsenault's motion on PR up for debate and a vote.
-- Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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Time to Write the Candidates
It's time everybody. The email form is LIVE. Et c'est bilingue! Please use it to write to your candidates.
Thank you! -- Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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Hi,
I just drafted this letter to send to Premier Higgs. What do you think of it? Would you make any changes? If you like it, do you want to be a signatory to it? I think it may have more impact as a group letter.
Dear Mr. Higgs, Congratulations on winning a majority with less than 40% of the vote. I'm sure you will enjoy doing whatever you want for the next four years, after which voters will be so fed up that they'll give the Liberals a majority government with 42% of the vote. But you have the power to stop that from happening. You can implement proportional representation (PR). PR is, after all, an idea embraced by your own party. Under Bernard Lord, the PCs commissioned a study of electoral reform. The commission issued a report recommending a mixed member proportional system. But the Lord government did not have a chance to implement that system before they were voted out again. Better late than never. Wouldn't it be satisfying to close the door on that impending Liberal majority government? And what a legacy it would leave you. Being the first Premier to call an election during a pandemic certainly made you stand out, but not in a positive way. Imagine being the first leader at any level of government in Canada to implement proportional representation. That would meke your legacy truly special. I recommend acting on this as quickly as possible. Elections NB may need a couple of years to implement the new system. It wouldn't do to leave it too long and run out of time, the way that Bernard Lord did. Thank you for your time and consideration.
-- Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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Hi,
I just drafted this letter to send to Premier Higgs. What do you think of it? Would you make any changes? If you like it, do you want to be a signatory to it? I think it may have more impact as a group letter.
Dear Mr. Higgs,
Congratulations on winning a majority with less than 40% of the vote. I'm sure you will enjoy doing whatever you want for the next four years, after which voters will be so fed up that they'll give the Liberals a majority government with 42% of the vote.
But you have the power to stop that from happening. You can implement proportional representation (PR).
PR is, after all, an idea embraced by your own party. Under Bernard Lord, the PCs commissioned a study of electoral reform. The commission issued a report recommending a mixed member proportional system. But the Lord government did not have a chance to implement
that system before they were voted out again.
Better late than never. Wouldn't it be satisfying to close the door on that impending Liberal majority government? And what a legacy it would leave you. Being the first Premier to call an election during a pandemic certainly made you stand out, but not in a
positive way. Imagine being the first leader at any level of government in Canada to implement proportional representation. That would meke your legacy truly special.
I recommend acting on this as quickly as possible. Elections NB may need a couple of years to implement the new system. It wouldn't do to leave it too long and run out of time, the way that Bernard Lord did.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
--
Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada
Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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I like it a lot.? Perhaps soften the sarcasm in the beginning, if you are writing on behalf of Fair Vote NB, but if it's just on your behalf, well, it rocks!
Hi,
I just drafted this letter to send to Premier Higgs. What do you think of it? Would you make any changes? If you like it, do you want to be a signatory to it? I think it may have more impact as a group letter.
Dear Mr. Higgs, Congratulations on winning a majority with less than 40% of the vote. I'm sure you will enjoy doing whatever you want for the next four years, after which voters will be so fed up that they'll give the Liberals a majority government with 42% of the vote. But you have the power to stop that from happening. You can implement proportional representation (PR). PR is, after all, an idea embraced by your own party. Under Bernard Lord, the PCs commissioned a study of electoral reform. The commission issued a report recommending a mixed member proportional system. But the Lord government did not have a chance to implement that system before they were voted out again. Better late than never. Wouldn't it be satisfying to close the door on that impending Liberal majority government? And what a legacy it would leave you. Being the first Premier to call an election during a pandemic certainly made you stand out, but not in a positive way. Imagine being the first leader at any level of government in Canada to implement proportional representation. That would meke your legacy truly special. I recommend acting on this as quickly as possible. Elections NB may need a couple of years to implement the new system. It wouldn't do to leave it too long and run out of time, the way that Bernard Lord did. Thank you for your time and consideration.
-- Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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Thanks Patti. How would you suggest I reword the?beginning?
On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 at 16:51, Patti Chmelyk < patti@...> wrote: I like it a lot.? Perhaps soften the sarcasm in the beginning, if you are writing on behalf of Fair Vote NB, but if it's just on your behalf, well, it rocks!
Hi,
I just drafted this letter to send to Premier Higgs. What do you think of it? Would you make any changes? If you like it, do you want to be a signatory to it? I think it may have more impact as a group letter.
Dear Mr. Higgs, Congratulations on winning a majority with less than 40% of the vote. I'm sure you will enjoy doing whatever you want for the next four years, after which voters will be so fed up that they'll give the Liberals a majority government with 42% of the vote. But you have the power to stop that from happening. You can implement proportional representation (PR). PR is, after all, an idea embraced by your own party. Under Bernard Lord, the PCs commissioned a study of electoral reform. The commission issued a report recommending a mixed member proportional system. But the Lord government did not have a chance to implement that system before they were voted out again. Better late than never. Wouldn't it be satisfying to close the door on that impending Liberal majority government? And what a legacy it would leave you. Being the first Premier to call an election during a pandemic certainly made you stand out, but not in a positive way. Imagine being the first leader at any level of government in Canada to implement proportional representation. That would meke your legacy truly special. I recommend acting on this as quickly as possible. Elections NB may need a couple of years to implement the new system. It wouldn't do to leave it too long and run out of time, the way that Bernard Lord did. Thank you for your time and consideration.
-- Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
BOOK INDEXING SERVICES
FICTION
-- Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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Hi Vivian,
Great letter! ?...I would sign it it - as is!
Thanks Patti. How would you suggest I reword the?beginning?
On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 at 16:51, Patti Chmelyk < patti@...> wrote: I like it a lot.? Perhaps soften the sarcasm in the beginning, if you are writing on behalf of Fair Vote NB, but if it's just on your behalf, well, it rocks!
Hi,
I just drafted this letter to send to Premier Higgs. What do you think of it? Would you make any changes? If you like it, do you want to be a signatory to it? I think it may have more impact as a group letter.
Dear Mr. Higgs, Congratulations on winning a majority with less than 40% of the vote. I'm sure you will enjoy doing whatever you want for the next four years, after which voters will be so fed up that they'll give the Liberals a majority government with 42% of the vote. But you have the power to stop that from happening. You can implement proportional representation (PR). PR is, after all, an idea embraced by your own party. Under Bernard Lord, the PCs commissioned a study of electoral reform. The commission issued a report recommending a mixed member proportional system. But the Lord government did not have a chance to implement that system before they were voted out again. Better late than never. Wouldn't it be satisfying to close the door on that impending Liberal majority government? And what a legacy it would leave you. Being the first Premier to call an election during a pandemic certainly made you stand out, but not in a positive way. Imagine being the first leader at any level of government in Canada to implement proportional representation. That would meke your legacy truly special. I recommend acting on this as quickly as possible. Elections NB may need a couple of years to implement the new system. It wouldn't do to leave it too long and run out of time, the way that Bernard Lord did. Thank you for your time and consideration.
-- Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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Vivian Unger
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Thanks Andrea. I've got two co-signers so far, yay. :-)
I can see Patti's point though. What do you all think of this alternate beginning: "Congratulations on your election win. For the next four years, you'll have the power to do whatever you want..." etc. Would you be willing to sign that, Patti?
Hi Vivian,
Great letter! ?...I would sign it it - as is!
Thanks Patti. How would you suggest I reword the?beginning?
On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 at 16:51, Patti Chmelyk < patti@...> wrote: I like it a lot.? Perhaps soften the sarcasm in the beginning, if you are writing on behalf of Fair Vote NB, but if it's just on your behalf, well, it rocks!
Hi,
I just drafted this letter to send to Premier Higgs. What do you think of it? Would you make any changes? If you like it, do you want to be a signatory to it? I think it may have more impact as a group letter.
Dear Mr. Higgs, Congratulations on winning a majority with less than 40% of the vote. I'm sure you will enjoy doing whatever you want for the next four years, after which voters will be so fed up that they'll give the Liberals a majority government with 42% of the vote. But you have the power to stop that from happening. You can implement proportional representation (PR). PR is, after all, an idea embraced by your own party. Under Bernard Lord, the PCs commissioned a study of electoral reform. The commission issued a report recommending a mixed member proportional system. But the Lord government did not have a chance to implement that system before they were voted out again. Better late than never. Wouldn't it be satisfying to close the door on that impending Liberal majority government? And what a legacy it would leave you. Being the first Premier to call an election during a pandemic certainly made you stand out, but not in a positive way. Imagine being the first leader at any level of government in Canada to implement proportional representation. That would meke your legacy truly special. I recommend acting on this as quickly as possible. Elections NB may need a couple of years to implement the new system. It wouldn't do to leave it too long and run out of time, the way that Bernard Lord did. Thank you for your time and consideration.
-- Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
BOOK INDEXING SERVICES
FICTION
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Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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-- Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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I like that wording better - it's more neutral.
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Thanks Andrea. I've got two co-signers so far, yay. :-)
I can see Patti's point though. What do you all think of this alternate beginning: "Congratulations on your election
win. For the next four years, you'll have the power to do whatever you want..." etc. Would you be willing to sign that, Patti?
Hi Vivian,
Great letter! ?...I would sign it it - as is!
Thanks Patti. How would you suggest I reword the?beginning?
On Sun, 27 Sep 2020 at 16:51, Patti Chmelyk < patti@...> wrote:
I like it a lot.? Perhaps soften the sarcasm in the beginning, if you are writing on behalf of Fair Vote NB, but if it's just on your behalf, well, it rocks!
Hi,
I just drafted this letter to send to Premier Higgs. What do you think of it? Would you make any changes? If you like it, do you want to be a signatory to it? I think it may have more impact as a group letter.
Dear Mr. Higgs,
Congratulations on winning a majority with less than 40% of the vote. I'm sure you will enjoy doing whatever you want for the next four years, after which voters will be so fed up that they'll give the Liberals a majority government with 42% of the vote.
But you have the power to stop that from happening. You can implement proportional representation (PR).
PR is, after all, an idea embraced by your own party. Under Bernard Lord, the PCs commissioned a study of electoral reform. The commission issued a report recommending a mixed member proportional system. But the Lord government did not have a chance to implement
that system before they were voted out again.
Better late than never. Wouldn't it be satisfying to close the door on that impending Liberal majority government? And what a legacy it would leave you. Being the first Premier to call an election during a pandemic certainly made you stand out, but not in a
positive way. Imagine being the first leader at any level of government in Canada to implement proportional representation. That would meke your legacy truly special.
I recommend acting on this as quickly as possible. Elections NB may need a couple of years to implement the new system. It wouldn't do to leave it too long and run out of time, the way that Bernard Lord did.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
--
Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada
Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada
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Doodle poll for NB meeting
Hi,
Anita is organizing a NB meeting. I think someone wants to get a chapter going again here. If you're interested, please fill in the Doodle poll with your availability. Link below.
Thanks, Vivian Here we go!?
Vivian, is there anybody else I should be inviting from Fredericton, whether they can come or not? (Andrew and David...?)?
Anita
I'd like a Doodle poll. This week is not the best for me; I have a lot to do. Next week would be better.
Okay, Sandy said mornings only, and Tom has Thurs or Fri morning available.?
As Vivian will know, I don't do mornings (my hours are noon to 3 AM. In mornings I am sleeping or incoherent. I will get up for an AM meeting if it's with the Prime Minister ;). But you don't need me - there's lots of energy and talent to go around here and with Vivian being on our board and involved for so long, there's nothing she can't fill you in on from an organizational end.
Do you want to say Friday morning at 9 AM? Does that work for everyone? Or do you want me to put out a doodle poll??
Exciting to see this happening!
Anita
As usual, I sent this to just one person when I meant to hit "reply all." Arrg. Get off the computer, Vivian. ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Vivian Unger <vivian.unger@...>Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 at 15:11 Subject: Re: Want to have a Zoom call about promoting PR in NB? To: Tom Hart < harttj@...> I'm interested and I can probably find some other people who will also be interested. On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 at 14:37, Tom Hart < harttj@...> wrote: Hi All!
?I am free Monday Tuesday and Wednesday after 1300 and I am free on Thursday and Friday from 0900 to 1200.
Regards,?
Tom Hart
> On Sep 29, 2020, at 12:44, Anita Nickerson <anita.nickerson@...> wrote:
>
> ?
> Hello Sandy, Vivian, Tom and Douglas!
>
> I'm emailing you all together cause it seems to make the most sense.
>
> Tom has emailed us (via the volunteer form on the site) offering to help get Fair Vote active in New Brunswick. He'd be willing to co-facilitate a first Zoom call of anybody in NB who's interested in connecting and getting involved. He's in Moncton (I think! - now I've forgotten)
>
> Douglas emailed offering to help - he doesn't want to lead but he's happy to collaborate. He's in Sunny Corner.
>
> Vivian is our long time leader in Fredericton and runs the facebook page "New Brunswickers for Proportional Representation." She also got herself in the newspaper this election promoting PR and was recently on our board :). Vivian may have picked up some new folks during the election, too - don't know.
>
> Sandy is our long time lead in Saint John. He and his group make sure Wayne Long can't forget that we want action, and he is quoted on our press releases.
>
> Tom has offered to dothe a virtual "first meeting" with NB supporters with me, but I'm not the best person to do it. I'm here to help but it needs to be led in NB. Could you all work together? :). We could just meet just us first to get to know each other and work out an agenda. What you decide to do is up to you.
>
> Great to see some momentum - silver lining from the Higgs 39% majority!
>
> Anita
>
On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 at 14:37, Tom Hart < harttj@...> wrote: Hi All!
?I am free Monday Tuesday and Wednesday after 1300 and I am free on Thursday and Friday from 0900 to 1200.
Regards,?
Tom Hart
> On Sep 29, 2020, at 12:44, Anita Nickerson <anita.nickerson@...> wrote:
>
> ?
> Hello Sandy, Vivian, Tom and Douglas!
>
> I'm emailing you all together cause it seems to make the most sense.
>
> Tom has emailed us (via the volunteer form on the site) offering to help get Fair Vote active in New Brunswick. He'd be willing to co-facilitate a first Zoom call of anybody in NB who's interested in connecting and getting involved. He's in Moncton (I think! - now I've forgotten)
>
> Douglas emailed offering to help - he doesn't want to lead but he's happy to collaborate. He's in Sunny Corner.
>
> Vivian is our long time leader in Fredericton and runs the facebook page "New Brunswickers for Proportional Representation." She also got herself in the newspaper this election promoting PR and was recently on our board :). Vivian may have picked up some new folks during the election, too - don't know.
>
> Sandy is our long time lead in Saint John. He and his group make sure Wayne Long can't forget that we want action, and he is quoted on our press releases.
>
> Tom has offered to dothe a virtual "first meeting" with NB supporters with me, but I'm not the best person to do it. I'm here to help but it needs to be led in NB. Could you all work together? :). We could just meet just us first to get to know each other and work out an agenda. What you decide to do is up to you.
>
> Great to see some momentum - silver lining from the Higgs 39% majority!
>
> Anita
>
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Re: Minutes New Brunswick meeting Friday October 9 10 AM
Yes, it's a discussion group, not one-way. Any member can post. And it's underused. I think it's got 5 members right now.
I remembered this morning that we had quite an interesting bunch of links in the Zoom chat. I attach them in a text file.
Finally, I would be remiss if I didn't invite everyone to add their names to my group letter to Higgs, which will be going out at the end of the long weekend. Please write to me if you'd like to be included. I've got 20 names so far! (Please note that your email address will be in the CC of this letter unless you tell me otherwise. I also plan to CC the media.) Text of letter also attached.
Well, that should give you all enough reading for the next little while. :)
Vivian
Yeah! If that's like an ongoing working group, not just people who want to get announcements. Thanks, Vivian!
Anita
I've already got a group called [email protected], so how about if we just use that one?
Hey everyone!! Awesome!?
In terms of a doodle poll, you don't need me - it's free to do a doodle poll.?
Was there any discussion of creating?an email list of everyone interested in working in this group (even if they can't attend all the meetings). So we could have FVNB@googlegroups (whatever it is) and a couple of people could be admins and then just add any new people as we go??
Anita
On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 4:14 PM T.J. Hart < harttj@...> wrote: Hi Everyone!
Please find attached a PDF of the Minutes of what I thought covered our discussions on our Friday meeting. Please note this is what I think was said not necessarily what was said. I ask that you review the material and add any notes that you think need to be added or deleted. I need to have the edited copies back to me no later than Friday 16 Oct 20 so I can get the copy of the minutes out to everybody before our next meeting.
Regards,
Tom Hart
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US election: the logical end for FPTP nations? + JS sent a letter
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Vivian Unger <vivian.unger@...>Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2020 at 08:48 Subject: US election: the logical end for FPTP nations? + JS sent a letter To: pr-writers < [email protected]> LETTER-WRITING CAMPAIGN
Hi everybody,
What's happening south of the border, with anti-vote-counting protesters calling for another civil war, and Trump hoping he can steal the election through his stacked Supreme Court--it's appalling. It's also an opportunity. We need to point out the link between this extreme division and our electoral systems (there are differences, but both systems are FPTP).
Please write letters and op-eds to newspapers, radio stations, etc. Let us know if they get published or read on-air,?by emailing me directly or writing to [email protected]. Make the link between the system and the polarization and hatred.
I just found out today that NDP leader Jagmeet Singh wrote a letter to Justin Trudeau calling for a citizen's assembly.?
The media hasn't reported on this, possibly because they're a little preoccupied with something or other. You can mention this in your letters. A citizen's assembly would be a great way to pick a better electoral system and begin to heal the divisions in our society.
I enclose the letter I just wrote to my local CBC Information Morning show. Hi Terry,
I just heard you ask your guest about what Canada can learn from the US election. I have my own opinion on that. The incredible division we see south of the border may be the logical end of the first-past-the-post electoral system. We have a similar system, and we should be concerned about the similar divisions we're seeing in our own society.
First-past-the-post tends to result in two parties trading power back and forth. This is called Duverger's The US, where voters are regularly bullied out of voting for other parties, is an extreme example. Canada elects other parties to Parliament, but none of them have ever held power at the federal level. So we're not that far behind the US.
Whenever two sides are set against each other in that manner, it leads naturally to an increasing tribalism and hostility, and to war. Just this morning on the radio, it was reported that one of the anti-vote-counting protesters said it was high time for another civil war.
Contrast this to the recent New Zealand election. The Labour party won a majority for the first time since they adopted proportional representation, but rather than take it as an opportunity to rule unopposed, they've entered into a coalition with the Green Party! They've become accustomed to cooperation, while our parties have become accustomed to negative partisanship and opportunism.
Both the US and Canada need to switch to proportional representation to save our countries from the inexorable descent into tribalism and hatred.
Thank you,
-- Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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Hi,
What do you think of this text for a petition? I'd like some feedback. You should be able to suggest edits, if I've set it up properly anyway.
I'm not happy with the last sentence. It's long and clunky. I based it on the sample text that the NB government website suggests for petitions, and their version is way worse. But this is still bad. Rewording is welcome.
You can see the government's suggested text at? . It won't be an official petition because official petitions can only be on paper, so we don't have to follow their formula, which is incredibly butt-kissing and shows no sign of having been updated for the new millennium.
Thanks, -- Vivian Unger
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This is good, Vivian!
Since it's not an official petition why bother with that humbly language at the end? People won't know why it's there.?
You can probably guess that I'd rather see an ask for a Citizens' Assembly without delay since as we've seen no government is just going to bring in PR and if we don't direct them to a good process we will inevitably get the made-to-fail process.?
While it's very important to acknowledge the 2004 report, it was almost 20 years ago now. It's sort of like there's no way the federal Liberals feel the least bit pressured because of the 2004 Law Commission report.
I'd definitely encourage you, when the group is ready, to have me put it on our civi platform. It's not as beautiful looking as a page like but it means you are adding people to our database (getting emails) that you can communicate with in future - building FVC in NB so when you're ready to do a "next thing" like visit your MLA or lobby for a resolution at a convention there's a list of people to ask.
Glad to see you doing this!
Anita
Hi,
What do you think of this text for a petition? I'd like some feedback. You should be able to suggest edits, if I've set it up properly anyway.
I'm not happy with the last sentence. It's long and clunky. I based it on the sample text that the NB government website suggests for petitions, and their version is way worse. But this is still bad. Rewording is welcome.
You can see the government's suggested text at? . It won't be an official petition because official petitions can only be on paper, so we don't have to follow their formula, which is incredibly butt-kissing and shows no sign of having been updated for the new millennium.
Thanks, -- Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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Thanks for the offer to host the petition, Anita. I'm happy to take you up on that as long as we can give people an opt-out if they want to sign the petition but they don't want to end up subscribed on FVC. For example, a checkbox they can uncheck. Also, will I be able to include an image? It's always good to have an image; pictures get people's attention. I want to do a meme with this image I made of the popular vote imposed?on a map (attached).
What do you all think about changing the wording to ask for a CA? It's true that the 2004 report is going on 17 years old. And of course, Brian Gallant's commission that recommended AV is best forgotten. So perhaps that's a better approach.
This is good, Vivian!
Since it's not an official petition why bother with that humbly language at the end? People won't know why it's there.?
You can probably guess that I'd rather see an ask for a Citizens' Assembly without delay since as we've seen no government is just going to bring in PR and if we don't direct them to a good process we will inevitably get the made-to-fail process.?
While it's very important to acknowledge the 2004 report, it was almost 20 years ago now. It's sort of like there's no way the federal Liberals feel the least bit pressured because of the 2004 Law Commission report.
I'd definitely encourage you, when the group is ready, to have me put it on our civi platform. It's not as beautiful looking as a page like but it means you are adding people to our database (getting emails) that you can communicate with in future - building FVC in NB so when you're ready to do a "next thing" like visit your MLA or lobby for a resolution at a convention there's a list of people to ask.
Glad to see you doing this!
Anita
Hi,
What do you think of this text for a petition? I'd like some feedback. You should be able to suggest edits, if I've set it up properly anyway.
I'm not happy with the last sentence. It's long and clunky. I based it on the sample text that the NB government website suggests for petitions, and their version is way worse. But this is still bad. Rewording is welcome.
You can see the government's suggested text at? . It won't be an official petition because official petitions can only be on paper, so we don't have to follow their formula, which is incredibly butt-kissing and shows no sign of having been updated for the new millennium.
Thanks, -- Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
BOOK INDEXING SERVICES
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-- Vivian Unger
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That¡¯s an interesting map, Vivian.
It looks like it¡¯s intended to represent portions of regions by the way they voted.
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Thanks for the offer to host the petition, Anita. I'm happy to take you up on that as long as we can give people an opt-out if they want to sign the petition but they don't want to end up subscribed on FVC. For example, a checkbox they can uncheck. Also, will I be able to include an image? It's always good to have an image; pictures get people's attention. I want to do a meme with this image I made of the popular vote imposed?on a map (attached).
What do you all think about changing the wording to ask for a CA? It's true that the 2004 report is going on 17 years old. And of course, Brian Gallant's commission that recommended AV is best forgotten. So perhaps that's a better approach. This is good, Vivian!
Since it's not an official petition why bother with that humbly language at the end? People won't know why it's there.?
You can probably guess that I'd rather see an ask for a Citizens' Assembly without delay since as we've seen no government is just going to bring in PR and if we don't direct them to a good process we will inevitably get the made-to-fail process.?
While it's very important to acknowledge the 2004 report, it was almost 20 years ago now. It's sort of like there's no way the federal Liberals feel the least bit pressured because of the 2004 Law Commission report.
I'd definitely encourage you, when the group is ready, to have me put it on our civi platform. It's not as beautiful looking as a page like??but it means you are adding people to our database (getting emails) that you can communicate with in future - building FVC in NB so when you're ready to do a "next thing" like visit your MLA or lobby for a resolution at a convention there's a list of people to ask.
Glad to see you doing this!
Anita
Hi,
What do you think of this text for a petition? I'd like some feedback. You should be able to suggest edits, if I've set it up properly anyway.?
I'm not happy with the last sentence. It's long and clunky. I based it on the sample text that the NB government website suggests for petitions, and their version is way worse. But this is still bad. Rewording is welcome.
You can see the government's suggested text at? ?. It won't be an official petition because official petitions can only be on paper, so we don't have to follow their formula, which is incredibly butt-kissing and shows no sign of having been updated for the new millennium.
Thanks, -- ?Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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Sign the Declaration of Voters' Rights:?
--?Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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Yes, that's the idea. I looked at the vote % in each riding, and painted in the other party colours in approximately the right amount. I tried to be artsy about it; so if the riding next to it voted for someone else, I'd make it look as if some of that other party bled in over the border. Also, I usually put PANB purple in between Liberal red and PC blue because red and blue blend to make purple. It was fun, like an art project.
Sadly, there's very little NDP orange on the map.
That¡¯s an interesting map, Vivian.
It looks like it¡¯s intended to represent portions of regions by the way they voted.
John
Thanks for the offer to host the petition, Anita. I'm happy to take you up on that as long as we can give people an opt-out if they want to sign the petition but they don't want to end up subscribed on FVC. For example, a checkbox they can uncheck. Also, will I be able to include an image? It's always good to have an image; pictures get people's attention. I want to do a meme with this image I made of the popular vote imposed?on a map (attached).
What do you all think about changing the wording to ask for a CA? It's true that the 2004 report is going on 17 years old. And of course, Brian Gallant's commission that recommended AV is best forgotten. So perhaps that's a better approach. This is good, Vivian!
Since it's not an official petition why bother with that humbly language at the end? People won't know why it's there.?
You can probably guess that I'd rather see an ask for a Citizens' Assembly without delay since as we've seen no government is just going to bring in PR and if we don't direct them to a good process we will inevitably get the made-to-fail process.?
While it's very important to acknowledge the 2004 report, it was almost 20 years ago now. It's sort of like there's no way the federal Liberals feel the least bit pressured because of the 2004 Law Commission report.
I'd definitely encourage you, when the group is ready, to have me put it on our civi platform. It's not as beautiful looking as a page like??but it means you are adding people to our database (getting emails) that you can communicate with in future - building FVC in NB so when you're ready to do a "next thing" like visit your MLA or lobby for a resolution at a convention there's a list of people to ask.
Glad to see you doing this!
Anita
Hi,
What do you think of this text for a petition? I'd like some feedback. You should be able to suggest edits, if I've set it up properly anyway.?
I'm not happy with the last sentence. It's long and clunky. I based it on the sample text that the NB government website suggests for petitions, and their version is way worse. But this is still bad. Rewording is welcome.
You can see the government's suggested text at? ?. It won't be an official petition because official petitions can only be on paper, so we don't have to follow their formula, which is incredibly butt-kissing and shows no sign of having been updated for the new millennium.
Thanks, -- ?Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
BOOK INDEXING SERVICES
FICTION
--?
Proportional representation delivers more of what YOU voted for!?
Sign the Declaration of Voters' Rights:?
--?Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
BOOK INDEXING SERVICES
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-- Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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For you, happy to put an opt-out box :)
Thanks for the offer to host the petition, Anita. I'm happy to take you up on that as long as we can give people an opt-out if they want to sign the petition but they don't want to end up subscribed on FVC. For example, a checkbox they can uncheck. Also, will I be able to include an image? It's always good to have an image; pictures get people's attention. I want to do a meme with this image I made of the popular vote imposed?on a map (attached).
What do you all think about changing the wording to ask for a CA? It's true that the 2004 report is going on 17 years old. And of course, Brian Gallant's commission that recommended AV is best forgotten. So perhaps that's a better approach.
This is good, Vivian!
Since it's not an official petition why bother with that humbly language at the end? People won't know why it's there.?
You can probably guess that I'd rather see an ask for a Citizens' Assembly without delay since as we've seen no government is just going to bring in PR and if we don't direct them to a good process we will inevitably get the made-to-fail process.?
While it's very important to acknowledge the 2004 report, it was almost 20 years ago now. It's sort of like there's no way the federal Liberals feel the least bit pressured because of the 2004 Law Commission report.
I'd definitely encourage you, when the group is ready, to have me put it on our civi platform. It's not as beautiful looking as a page like but it means you are adding people to our database (getting emails) that you can communicate with in future - building FVC in NB so when you're ready to do a "next thing" like visit your MLA or lobby for a resolution at a convention there's a list of people to ask.
Glad to see you doing this!
Anita
Hi,
What do you think of this text for a petition? I'd like some feedback. You should be able to suggest edits, if I've set it up properly anyway.
I'm not happy with the last sentence. It's long and clunky. I based it on the sample text that the NB government website suggests for petitions, and their version is way worse. But this is still bad. Rewording is welcome.
You can see the government's suggested text at? . It won't be an official petition because official petitions can only be on paper, so we don't have to follow their formula, which is incredibly butt-kissing and shows no sign of having been updated for the new millennium.
Thanks, -- Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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Proportional representation delivers more of what YOU voted for!?
Sign the Declaration of Voters' Rights:
--
Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
BOOK INDEXING SERVICES
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-- Proportional representation delivers more of what YOU voted for!?
Sign the Declaration of Voters' Rights:
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For you, happy to put an opt-out box :)
Thanks for the offer to host the petition, Anita. I'm happy to take you up on that as long as we can give people an opt-out if they want to sign the petition but they don't want to end up subscribed on FVC. For example, a checkbox they can uncheck. Also, will I be able to include an image? It's always good to have an image; pictures get people's attention. I want to do a meme with this image I made of the popular vote imposed?on a map (attached).
What do you all think about changing the wording to ask for a CA? It's true that the 2004 report is going on 17 years old. And of course, Brian Gallant's commission that recommended AV is best forgotten. So perhaps that's a better approach.
This is good, Vivian!
Since it's not an official petition why bother with that humbly language at the end? People won't know why it's there.?
You can probably guess that I'd rather see an ask for a Citizens' Assembly without delay since as we've seen no government is just going to bring in PR and if we don't direct them to a good process we will inevitably get the made-to-fail process.?
While it's very important to acknowledge the 2004 report, it was almost 20 years ago now. It's sort of like there's no way the federal Liberals feel the least bit pressured because of the 2004 Law Commission report.
I'd definitely encourage you, when the group is ready, to have me put it on our civi platform. It's not as beautiful looking as a page like but it means you are adding people to our database (getting emails) that you can communicate with in future - building FVC in NB so when you're ready to do a "next thing" like visit your MLA or lobby for a resolution at a convention there's a list of people to ask.
Glad to see you doing this!
Anita
Hi,
What do you think of this text for a petition? I'd like some feedback. You should be able to suggest edits, if I've set it up properly anyway.
I'm not happy with the last sentence. It's long and clunky. I based it on the sample text that the NB government website suggests for petitions, and their version is way worse. But this is still bad. Rewording is welcome.
You can see the government's suggested text at? . It won't be an official petition because official petitions can only be on paper, so we don't have to follow their formula, which is incredibly butt-kissing and shows no sign of having been updated for the new millennium.
Thanks, -- Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
BOOK INDEXING SERVICES
FICTION
--
Proportional representation delivers more of what YOU voted for!?
Sign the Declaration of Voters' Rights:
--
Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
BOOK INDEXING SERVICES
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Proportional representation delivers more of what YOU voted for!?
Sign the Declaration of Voters' Rights:
-- Vivian Unger
Fredericton, NB, Canada Land of the Wabanaki Confederacy: Wolastokuk (Maliseet) and Mi¡¯kmaq
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