Re: New ios...think I'll wait
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On Oct 19, 2019, at 1:18 PM, Jim Saklad via Groups.Io wrote: Most updates that Apple releases is a security update. Do you really want to take a chance on security for 90 days?
And in the first months after a major release, security upgrade are normally also issued for the most recent past release of the OS
In other words, if a security update is released for Catalina, it most likely is also released for Mojave.
Or if released for iOS 13.1, probably also for iOS 12.4 …
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Re: New ios...think I'll wait
Most updates that Apple releases is a security update. Do you really want to take a chance on security for 90 days?
And in the first months after a major release, security upgrade are normally also issued for the most recent past release of the OS
In other words, if a security update is released for Catalina, it most likely is also released for Mojave.
Or if released for iOS 13.1, probably also for iOS 12.4 …
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Re: New ios...think I'll wait
On Oct 19, 2019, at 1:06 PM, Jim Saklad via Groups.Io <jimdoc@...> wrote:
Seeing as many people are experiencing all kinds of issues with their iPhones and iPads, i'm thinking about waiting to update. Keep in mind human nature:
If 1,000,000 people update, and 500 have problems, you will see 2-3000 problem-related comments online from those 500 people, and only about 1000 comments from the other 999,500 folks with NO problems. Many people who never complain simply accept, unquestioningly, whatever comes their way. I suspect most of us are like that. —
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Re: Group Huddle :> Pictures or not?
I'm in favor of screen shot images for instruction which I find most helpful.
Joan
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Re: Post your links here if you can.
Why is that a big security risk??
If they want in they can get in. Give a person a roofie and then unlock the phone. If you can't trust those you sleep with you have bigger problems than them opening your phone.
If your dead, you don't have much to say about what happens or care. Unless you are a super secret agent or drug cartel.
You can turn off the feature if you are worried about it, but it sounds more like a storm in a teacup.
Brent
On Oct 19, 2019, at 12:19 AM, Alice Saunders via Groups.Io wrote: That’s crazy. Google made Face ID that way on purpose? It’s nuts that anyone would night it with that large a security leak.? G ? \ ? ? \ ?/\? ? ? ( ? ) ? ? ? ? ? ?Alice ? FaceID on the new Pixel can be used with peoples eyes closed and Google says that is how it is supposed to work.? Mentions how the iPhone works. ?
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Re: Group Huddle :> Pictures or not?
On another list that just moved to groups.io, another member and I have posted photos, and they show up in the emails as a default. I do not know that options the admins have.
On Oct 19, 2019, at 12:32 AM, Alice Saunders via Groups.Io wrote: Rich, I didn’t notice many putting photos in their messages on yahoo.?
If you do slow photos and they go in a photo section, will y those who get the messages in email get to see the photos? Or will they have to go to the website to see them? ? \ ? ? \ ?/\? ? ? ( ? ) ? ? ? ? ? ?Alice ?I wanted everyone's input on if we should allow pictures in the emails or not?
I first wanted to allow everything here, then thought if we get bigger and many send pictures, people using cell phones
or limited data plans might not want them.
I can limit the size I think, but then that makes a problem sending them as I just tried a few times and mine were never sent.
We can have a photos sections here on the site, but they have a limit on how much storage else you have to pay.
So are photos important to you and how would you like the group to work?
Rich
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Re: New ios...think I'll wait
In the past, I did’t wait too long before installing an update (certainly not 90 days for a security update). ?Maybe a week to see what happens. ?
Interestingly, for the very first time that I can recall, there were articles out before the 13 update appeared, suggesting people delay. ?It was already known that 13.1 was close on the heals due to already discovered bugs. ?So, I did wait till the update came out.
Only to find 13.1.1, followed by 13.1.2 and now 13.1.3 all within a few weeks of the initial release of 13.
I agree that in the past it appeared that the issues were not wide spread (the 500 out of 1M). ?Not so sure about this release.
I don’t know if 13 is an anomaly or warning that things are getting so complex for Apple that they are not as able to release clean software.
Time will tell. ?Yes, I did update to 13.1.3 already. ?Fingers crossed.
David
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On Oct 19, 2019, at 1:04 PM, Jim Saklad via Groups.Io < jimdoc@...> wrote:
Seeing as many people are experiencing all kinds of issues with their iPhones and iPads, i'm thinking about waiting to update.
Keep in mind human nature: If 1,000,000 people update, and 500 have problems, you will see 2-3000 problem-related comments online from those 500 people, ?and only about 1000 comments from the other 999,500 folks with NO problems.
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Re: New ios...think I'll wait
Most updates that Apple releases is a security update. Do you really want to take a chance on security for 90 days?
Jim Saklad wrote:?
If 1,000,000 people update, and 500 have problems, you will see 2-3000 problem-related comments online from those 500 people,? and only about 1000 comments from the other 999,500 folks with NO problems.
I am one of the 999,500…. No problems whatsoever with the recent updates…
However, if my livelihood depended on it, I would probably wait 90 days or so before applying any update...
Bim Bousman
iPhone SE
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Re: New ios...think I'll wait
Jim Saklad wrote:
If 1,000,000 people update, and 500 have problems, you will see 2-3000 problem-related comments online from those 500 people, and only about 1000 comments from the other 999,500 folks with NO problems.
I am one of the 999,500…. No problems whatsoever with the recent updates…
However, if my livelihood depended on it, I would probably wait 90 days or so before applying any update...
Bim Bousman
iPhone SE
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Re: New ios...think I'll wait
Seeing as many people are experiencing all kinds of issues with their iPhones and iPads, i'm thinking about waiting to update.
Keep in mind human nature: If 1,000,000 people update, and 500 have problems, you will see 2-3000 problem-related comments online from those 500 people, ?and only about 1000 comments from the other 999,500 folks with NO problems.
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Re: New ios...think I'll wait
Agree.? ? \ ? ? \ ?/\? ? ? ( ? ) ? ? ? ? ? ?Alice ?.( ? ? ?). ?lwr32@...
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On Oct 17, 2019, at 3:39 AM, myhomeseller via Groups.Io <myhomeseller@...> wrote:
?Howdy! Seeing as many people are experiencing all kinds of issues with their iPhones and iPads, i'm thinking about waiting to update.
Agree or disagree? iPhoneXR, 2019 iPad Air.
Thanks!
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Re: New ios...think I'll wait
I’m on the beta with and iphone 11 and all seems ok.? ? \ ? ? \ ?/\? ? ? ( ? ) ? ? ? ? ? ?Alice ?.( ? ? ?). ?lwr32@...
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On Oct 17, 2019, at 4:02 AM, Rkkeller <thekellergroup@...> wrote:
? It is up to you.? I been on the Public Beta and at 13.2 with a 11 Pro Max and it’s been great.? It was the initial iOS 13 that had most of the problems.? It has just been getting better and faster each update at least for me. ? ? ? Rich ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of myhomeseller via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 6:15 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [AppleiPhone] New ios...think I'll wait ? Howdy! Seeing as many people are experiencing all kinds of issues with their iPhones and iPads, i'm thinking about waiting to update.
Agree or disagree? iPhoneXR, 2019 iPad Air.
Thanks!
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Re: Post your links here if you can.
That’s crazy. Google made Face ID that way on purpose? It’s nuts that anyone would night it with that large a security leak.? ? \ ? ? \ ?/\? ? ? ( ? ) ? ? ? ? ? ?Alice ?.( ? ? ?). ?lwr32@...
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On Oct 18, 2019, at 9:33 AM, Rkkeller <thekellergroup@...> wrote:
? FaceID on the new Pixel can be used with peoples eyes closed and Google says that is how it is supposed to work.? Mentions how the iPhone works.
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Re: Group Huddle :> Pictures or not?
Rich, I didn’t notice many putting photos in their messages on yahoo.?
If you do slow photos and they go in a photo section, will y those who get the messages in email get to see the photos? Or will they have to go to the website to see them? ? \ ? ? \ ?/\? ? ? ( ? ) ? ? ? ? ? ?Alice ?.( ? ? ?). ?lwr32@...
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On Oct 17, 2019, at 2:53 PM, Rkkeller <thekellergroup@...> wrote:
?I wanted everyone's input on if we should allow pictures in the emails or not?
I first wanted to allow everything here, then thought if we get bigger and many send pictures, people using cell phones
or limited data plans might not want them.
I can limit the size I think, but then that makes a problem sending them as I just tried a few times and mine were never sent.
We can have a photos sections here on the site, but they have a limit on how much storage else you have to pay.
So are photos important to you and how would you like the group to work?
Rich
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Good morning all,Since updating both my iMac (2013) to Catalina, and my iPhone 7+ to 13.1.3 my Notes are not syncing as they use to.They still sync, but it’s extremely slow, sometimes not happening until overnight while my phone is plugged in charging.It doesn’t matter if I add/change a note on my phone or Mac, either way it’s extremely slow to sync.I rely on my Notes for everything, and I do mean everything! ?I have 171 notes.I have turned off syncing on my phone (Settings/Apple ID/iCloud/Notes), and on my Mac, and shut down both. ?This removed all my Notes and it took nearly an hour for them to re-appear on both devices.. ?Calendar has been having somewhat of the same issue with syncing, but not quite as bad.Any suggestions to speed up syncing would be greatly appreciated.Janet
Reminders app was behaving just like Notes is for you — s l o w to sync. ?parts would appear and disappear on my iPhone and iPad. ?Now they seem to sync like they did in iOS 12. ?
However, my Watch 3 no longer syncs reminders with my iPhone 7 and iPad Pro. ?I updated to 13.1.3. ?Rebooted. ?Nada. ? I really miss that feature.
After spending 3 hours on the phone with an Apple tech, the problem remains. ?
CD "She is both hellfire and holy water. And the flavor you taste depends on how you treat her." ?-Sneha Pul ?
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Re: Welcome to the new home of the Yahoo iPhone Group.
Good idea Brent. I belong to several groups that thin out the lurker’s every so often. ? \ ? ? \ ?/\? ? ? ( ? ) ? ? ? ? ? ?Alice ?.( ? ? ?). ?lwr32@...
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On Oct 17, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Brent via Groups.Io <whodo678@...> wrote:
? Quality over quantity, any day.?
I'm sure there were many lurkers, many who did not feel they could contribute. It might also be good to thin the ranks of inactive email accounts. A lot of the lurkers are those that only come to the groups, what are not heavy users, and only look when they have a problem, instead of skimming the post and learning ahead of time. Just like face to face groups, sports, hobby or social. There are the doers and those that are just along for the ride.
Brent
On Oct 17, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Rkkeller wrote: The other group had almost 14,000 members and maybe 25 ever posted.? We are already at 100 members
and each one had to come and join themselves so while not a large number, if the 25 main people join, we
will be back to normal with 100-200 or so real members.
Rich
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Re: Welcome to the new home of the Yahoo iPhone Group.
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On 19-Oct-2019, at 3:38 AM, Kenneth Bandy <ken.kj9b@...> wrote:
? You can see an overview of the messages posted to the group by pointing your browser to?
/g/AppleiPhone/topics
Ken On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 5:54 PM Sanjaya Kanoria < wsbunter@...> wrote: Glad to see this.? Where can we view group activity etc?? I mean on which web-site? ? I'm mostly a lurker, contribute occasionally. But I get all the emails and read them and have found some answers to questions I've had without having to post the question. The 3G was my first iPhone so I've been around here for 10+ years even if my presence isn't seen often. Thanks for all the feedback I can learn from.
Mickey iPhone 11 Pro Max iPad Pro (2017 version)
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Re: Group Huddle :> Pictures or not?
I am receiving them. ?Thanks so much. ?
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On 19-Oct-2019, at 3:48 AM, Brent.L <flapdoodle@...> wrote:
?Sanjaya, You should be receiving all the emails on the email address you used to sign up.
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Re: Group Huddle :> Pictures or not?
FYI Iogroups works much better than yahoo in every way - especially integrating images in emails?
On Friday, October 18, 2019, 6:18 PM, Brent.L <flapdoodle@...> wrote: Sanjaya, You should be receiving all the emails on the email address you used to sign up.
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Ladies & Gentlemen
I have noticed (since updating the Operating system to 13.something) that when I'm listening to AudioBooks downloaded onto the iphone that the volume resets to the mid point on the scale rather than maximum (where I need it because I suffer from severe hearing loss).
I'm listening on BORROWBOX - which is provided free by Hertfordshire Libraries
I have only noticed this since changing the OS and suspect that's the cause.
Any suggestions, please?
With best wishes and thanks
MC Black
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Brent
Jim Saklad
Brent L
Bim Bousman
Alice
Sanjay Kanoria
Rachel