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Re: First SY

 

Perhaps needs some new Duracells?

Ian

On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 10:49?AM Valenta Forever <valenta43123@...> wrote:
It appears that 36515 has expired in the Wicker this morning?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of ian@yorkshirebus via <yorkshirebus=[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2023 10:36:14 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [ydbn] First SY
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A bit of a long-over due update:

The last demonstrator received here was Yutong decker 38880 (UU11 DDD) left here at the start of November, having been trialled both at Olive Grove depot (on the 51) and Doncaster depot (on the X78).

The Volvo/MCV decker previously trialled at Olive Grove (39601 - BV23 NNT) returned here last weekend for use at Doncaster on shuttle services connected with the return of the "Flying Scotsman" to Doncaster where it was built.? This (the bus, not the Flying Scotsman) has now moved on loan to First York, which has allowed York's Electroliner 36515 (MF23 ZWC) to come on loan for trials in Sheffield on the 51 route.

All the ex Southampton Streetlites are now in Sheffield 'blue' with the exception of 63052 (SK63 KJJ) which has had a blue front/rear added over its former red livery and branding for the Royal British Legion.

Volvo B7RLEs 69440/2 (WX59 BYS/U) are also now in Sheffield blue, with I gather 69438/9/41 and the ex Leeds Streetdeck (35211) also in line for a visit to the paintshop.

Ian


Re: First SY

 

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It appears that 36515 has expired in the Wicker this morning?

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43123 on Tour
(Valenta 1972-2010)
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If you can fake sincerity,
you can fake pretty much anything





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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of ian@yorkshirebus via groups.io <yorkshirebus@...>
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2023 10:36:14 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [ydbn] First SY
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A bit of a long-over due update:

The last demonstrator received here was Yutong decker 38880 (UU11 DDD) left here at the start of November, having been trialled both at Olive Grove depot (on the 51) and Doncaster depot (on the X78).

The Volvo/MCV decker previously trialled at Olive Grove (39601 - BV23 NNT) returned here last weekend for use at Doncaster on shuttle services connected with the return of the "Flying Scotsman" to Doncaster where it was built.? This (the bus, not the Flying Scotsman) has now moved on loan to First York, which has allowed York's Electroliner 36515 (MF23 ZWC) to come on loan for trials in Sheffield on the 51 route.

All the ex Southampton Streetlites are now in Sheffield 'blue' with the exception of 63052 (SK63 KJJ) which has had a blue front/rear added over its former red livery and branding for the Royal British Legion.

Volvo B7RLEs 69440/2 (WX59 BYS/U) are also now in Sheffield blue, with I gather 69438/9/41 and the ex Leeds Streetdeck (35211) also in line for a visit to the paintshop.

Ian


First SY

 

A bit of a long-over due update:

The last demonstrator received here was Yutong decker 38880 (UU11 DDD) left here at the start of November, having been trialled both at Olive Grove depot (on the 51) and Doncaster depot (on the X78).

The Volvo/MCV decker previously trialled at Olive Grove (39601 - BV23 NNT) returned here last weekend for use at Doncaster on shuttle services connected with the return of the "Flying Scotsman" to Doncaster where it was built.? This (the bus, not the Flying Scotsman) has now moved on loan to First York, which has allowed York's Electroliner 36515 (MF23 ZWC) to come on loan for trials in Sheffield on the 51 route.

All the ex Southampton Streetlites are now in Sheffield 'blue' with the exception of 63052 (SK63 KJJ) which has had a blue front/rear added over its former red livery and branding for the Royal British Legion.

Volvo B7RLEs 69440/2 (WX59 BYS/U) are also now in Sheffield blue, with I gather 69438/9/41 and the ex Leeds Streetdeck (35211) also in line for a visit to the paintshop.

Ian


Stagecoach Yorkshire - Allocation Changes - Period 7

 

Recorded allocation changes for the 4 weeks ending 11th November 2023 were as follows:

11626?? YX73 PFU??????????? new?????? to?????????? HK

11647 ? YX73 PGF??????????? new?????? to?????????? HK

11648 ? YX73 PGK??????????? new?????? to?????????? HK

11649 ? YX73 PGO?????????? new?????? to?????????? HK

11697 ? YX73 PCF??????????? new?????? to?????????? HK

11699 ? YX73 PCU??????????? new?????? to?????????? HK

11702 ? YX73 PCY??????????? new?????? to?????????? HK

11703 ? YX73 PCZ??????????? new?????? to?????????? HK

11705 ? YX73 PDO?????????? new?????? to?????????? HK

11706 ? YX73 PDU?????????? new?????? to?????????? HK

11707 ? YX73 PDV??????????? new?????? to?????????? HK

11708 ? YX73 PDY??????????? new?????? to?????????? HK

11709 ? YX73 PDZ??????????? new?????? to?????????? HK

11710 ? YX73 PEO??????????? new?????? to?????????? HK

11711 ? YX73 PFA??????????? new?????? to?????????? HK

11712 ? YX73 PFD??????????? new?????? to?????????? HK

11713 ? YX73 PFE???????????? new?????? to?????????? HK

11714 ? YX73 PFF???????????? new?????? to?????????? HK

11715 ? YX73 PFG??????????? new?????? to?????????? HK

11716 ? YX73 PFJ????????????? new?????? to?????????? HK

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12170?? YN62 BXA?????????? HK???????? to?????????? CD

12172?? YN62 BXS??????????? HK???????? to?????????? CD

12174?? YN62 BYA??????????? HK???????? to?????????? reserve

12175?? YN62 BYS??????????? HK???????? to?????????? reserve

12177?? YN62 BZG?????????? HK???????? to?????????? reserve

12178?? YN62 BZK??????????? HK???????? to ????????? CD

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22592?? SF08 GPZ??????????? BY????????? to?????????? reserve

22617?? YN08 JHA??????????? CD ??????? to?????????? reserve

22619?? YN08 JHF??????????? BY ???????? to?????????? reserve

22645?? YN58 CEV?????????? BY ???????? to?????????? reserve

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37603?? YX69 NWV????????? HK???????? to?????????? BY

37604?? YX69 NWW??????? HK ??????? to?????????? BY

37605?? YX69 NWY????????? HK???????? to?????????? reserve

37607?? YX69 NXA?????????? HK ??????? to?????????? BY

37608?? YX69 NXB??????????? HK ??????? to?????????? reserve

37609?? YX69 NXC??????????? HK???????? to ????????? reserve

37610?? YX69 NXD?????????? HK ??????? to?????????? BY

37611?? YX69 NXE??????????? HK ??????? to?????????? BY

37614?? YX69 NXH?????????? HK???????? to?????????? reserve

37615?? YX69 NXJ???????????? HK???????? to ????????? reserve

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47727?? YN10 AGY ????????? res.??????? to ????????? Stagecoach South

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59227?? BN64 FKV?????????? res.??????? to ????????? Stagecoach Midlands (Megabus)

59228 ? YN69 FKW????????? res.? ????? to?????????? Stagecoach Midlands (Megabus)


Ian


Re: First South Yorkshire

 

Thanks Alan!

That'll be the closest Doncaster gets to a new bus for some time!

Ian


On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 1:14?PM Alan Brighton via <yellowwolf1957=[email protected]> wrote:
Yutong U11DD demonstrator out on the X78 today.

Alan


First South Yorkshire

 

Yutong U11DD demonstrator out on the X78 today.

Alan


Stagecoach Yorkshire 26/10

 

Further new E400MMCs to enter service at Holbrook are 11708 (YX73 PDY), 11710 (YX73 PEO) and 11712 (YX73 PFD).

The entry to service now of 15 of the 20 expected E400MMCs has started the cascade of vehicles out of Holbrook.? E400 Hybrids 12170/2/7/8 are at Chesterfield, with more to follow, and E200MMCs 37610/11 moving to Barnsley, again with more to follow.

15710 (YN60 CKD) has gained an all-over advert for EE mobiles.? Always find it strange when they apply the advert on a vehicle in the new fleet livery rather than using it to cover up a vehicle still in old livery (of which may of the 157xx at Ecclesfield still are!).

Ian


Stagecoach Yorkshire - Allocation Changes - Period 6

 

Recorded allocation changes for the 4 weeks ending 14th October 2023 were:

18330?? MX05 WJA????????? CD????????? to??????????? Cumbria & North Lancs

18356 ? MX55 KPG?????????? CD????????? to??????????? Cumbria & North Lancs

18364 ? MX55 KPT?????????? CD????????? to??????????? Cumbria & North Lancs

18381 ? MX55 KRU????????? CD????????? to??????????? Cumbria & North Lancs

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22555?? YN57 MXY?????????? CD????????? to??????????? reserve

22618 ? YN08 JHE???????????? BY?????????? to??????????? reserve

22641 ? YN58 CEF???????????? BY?????????? to??????????? reserve

22650 ? YN58 CFE???????????? BY?????????? to??????????? reserve

22651 ? YN58 CFF???????????? BY?????????? to??????????? reserve

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27207?? SL64 HYV???????????? Manc.?? to??????????? CD

27208 ? SL64 HYW??????????? Manc.?? to??????????? CD

27229 ? SK15 HFR???????????? Manc.?? to??????????? CD

27230 ? SK15 HFS???????????? Manc.?? to??????????? CD

27231 ? SK15 HFT???????????? Manc.?? to??????????? CD

27232 ? SK15 HFU??????????? Manc.?? to??????????? CD

27233 ? SK15 HFV???????????? Manc.?? to??????????? BY

27236 ? SK15 HFY???????????? Manc.?? to??????????? BY

27237 ? SK15 HFZ???????????? Manc.?? to??????????? BY

27824 ? MX62 LSY??????????? Manc.?? to??????????? BY

27825 ? MX62LTJ????????????? Manc.?? to??????????? BY

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36179?? YN60 FKP???????????? BY?????????? to??????????? reserve

36993?? SN63 YPT???????????? CD????????? to??????????? reserve

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Subsequent to the period end the new E400MMCs have begun to enter service at Holbrook, with 11626 (YX73 PFU, 11647-9 (YX73 PGF/K/O), 11697 (YX73 PCF) and 11703/5-7 (YX73 PCZ/DO/U/V) in use thus far.


Ian


fw: Deutsche Bahn signs agreement to sell Arriva Group to I Squared

 

Forwarded for info...



Ian


Re: First South Yorkshire 12.10.2023

 

Hello

Registration is confirmed as UU11 DDD.

Ian

On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 1:34?PM staceyanderson.leopard via <staceyanderson.leopard=[email protected]> wrote:

Just seen the grey Yutong double decker in service on the 51. It's carrying fleet number 38880.





Stacey

My pronouns are She/Her


First South Yorkshire 12.10.2023

 

Just seen the grey Yutong double decker in service on the 51. It's carrying fleet number 38880.





Stacey

My pronouns are She/Her


Re: First SY

 

Yep, many routes across SY decimated in an evening and Sunday.? And where they do run they're not ideal - i.e. First and Stagecoach both running within minutes of each other on 120s, then a big gap until the next pair come along.? 2 services through Harthill (21 and X54) both on 2-hourly frequencies but run within 12 minutes of each other.? Appreciate the operators are limited what they can do due to the funding cuts from SYMCA, but it's not great.

Add in concessionary fare increases for young adults/teens and removal of the ?2 cap on the trams (increases to ?2.80 from 1st November) and it's not a great time to be a public transport user in South Yorkshire at present.

Ian

On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 4:58?PM Adam Williams <amodelofcontrol@...> wrote:
Ian

This reminds me, have you seen the savage set of SY changes for the end of the month?


Evening and Sunday services in particular are decimated.

/adam

On Tue, 10 Oct 2023, 16:45 ian@yorkshirebus via , <yorkshirebus=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi all

Volvo B7L demonstrator 69700 (BV72 KPF) has returned to Volvo.

The next electric demonstrator to have arrived is a Yutong decker, which carries the (for show, presumably as does not pull on DVLA) registration plates UU11 DDD.? Unsure what it's true identity is.

Also arrived at OG are are Volvo B9TL/Wrights 36279/80 (BD12 TDU/CJ) from First Manchester, which are due to be followed by B7RLEs 69529/31 (BD11 CFJ/FE) and 69537/8/9 (BF63 HDN/U/O).

Ian





Re: First SY

 

Ian

This reminds me, have you seen the savage set of SY changes for the end of the month?


Evening and Sunday services in particular are decimated.

/adam


On Tue, 10 Oct 2023, 16:45 ian@yorkshirebus via , <yorkshirebus=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi all

Volvo B7L demonstrator 69700 (BV72 KPF) has returned to Volvo.

The next electric demonstrator to have arrived is a Yutong decker, which carries the (for show, presumably as does not pull on DVLA) registration plates UU11 DDD.? Unsure what it's true identity is.

Also arrived at OG are are Volvo B9TL/Wrights 36279/80 (BD12 TDU/CJ) from First Manchester, which are due to be followed by B7RLEs 69529/31 (BD11 CFJ/FE) and 69537/8/9 (BF63 HDN/U/O).

Ian





Stagecoach Manchester to Yorkshire

 

Following some confusion, the identities of the 11 E300s acquired from the (now defunct) Stagecoach Wigan operations are 27207/8 (SL64 HYV/W), 27229-33 (SK15 HFR/S/T/U/V), 27236/7 (SK15 HFY/Z) and 27824/5 (MX62 LSY/TJ).

27207/8 and 27231/2/6 are in use at Chesterfield.? 27233 and 27824 are in use at Barnsley, as is 27237 fresh from repaint in to the latest livery.? 27229/30 and 27825 are for Barnsley once repainted.

Now for the confusion... 27235 (SK15 HFX) also came over to Yorkshire for repaint in to Bee Network livery and return to Manchester.? It has however seen temporary use at Barnsley until space was available for it to be painted.

Ian


First SY

 

Hi all

Volvo B7L demonstrator 69700 (BV72 KPF) has returned to Volvo.

The next electric demonstrator to have arrived is a Yutong decker, which carries the (for show, presumably as does not pull on DVLA) registration plates UU11 DDD.? Unsure what it's true identity is.

Also arrived at OG are are Volvo B9TL/Wrights 36279/80 (BD12 TDU/CJ) from First Manchester, which are due to be followed by B7RLEs 69529/31 (BD11 CFJ/FE) and 69537/8/9 (BF63 HDN/U/O).

Ian





Re: Coach fire

 

Tony/all


Ewan



On Sun, 8 Oct 2023 at 19:26, traction1@...
<traction1@...> wrote:
Yesterday evening, a coach carrying the Barnsley FC football team home from Exeter caught fire. It was stated on the club web site that the "coach suffered complication".?

Everyone is on board is safe.

The coach is believed to be a Wilfreda Beehive example. It was difficult to tell after seeing some of the footage online.

Tony


Bradford Bus Fire

 



Reportedly Streetdeck 35647 (MD71 EOF).? No casualties reported thankfully.

Ian


Coach fire

 

Yesterday evening, a coach carrying the Barnsley FC football team home from Exeter caught fire. It was stated on the club web site that the "coach suffered complication".?

Everyone is on board is safe.

The coach is believed to be a Wilfreda Beehive example. It was difficult to tell after seeing some of the footage online.

Tony


First SY BZL demo

 

If you were thinking of heading out today or over the weekend to sample the BZL demo (69700 - BV72 KPF) I probably wouldn't bother.? Due to the lack of any rapid charging infrastructure at Olive Grove and thus the amount of time needed to fully charge it, it is generally only used 2 days per week - usually Tuesday and Thursday.

Gather it will be here at least for the next week or so before it goes back.? It'll be followed in mid-October by a Yutong decker, then a Yutong single decker and an E400EV (all subject to availability).? Gather one of the Electroliners and GB Kites recently delivered elsewhere in First are also to be trialled in Sheffield in due course.

Ian


Arriva Yorkshire / Merseyside vehicle swaps

 

Hi all

Due to age restrictions on the Arriva Merseyside fleet a swapping of vehicles between Yorkshire and Merseyside is underway.

Leaving the Yorkshire fleet are 16x '62' registration VDL/Pulsar IIs (AY fleet numbers 1456-66/78-81/95).

These are being replaced with 16x older VDLs from the Merseyside fleet:

CX58 EWB/D/E/F/G/H/K/J/O/P/R/S/T (Merseyside fleet no's 2689/91-7/2900-4), CX58 EXL (2919) and MX09 EKW/Y (2939/40).

The latter 2 have the Pulsar II style bodies and I gather they are to become AY 1448/49 (taking the 2 spare numbers between the recently arrived ex North East vehicles and the native batch).? The 58 plate examples have the earlier Pulsar style bodies and as such are to be numbered 1420 upwards, though unsure on the exact order.

Ian