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Steiner/Waldorf presentation video

 
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Hello Everyone,
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Just wanted to share this presentation on Rudolph Steiner/Waldorf and another layer of exposure and influence he¡¯s had within society. It¡¯s long, but an interesting watch.?

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Please feel free to share your thoughts. I¡¯m new here and am just starting to dig deep on the subject, but I appreciate and like to reflect on everyone¡¯s input. Thanks in advance!?


Church-State Issue in Charter Schools Heats Up

 

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In the New York Times this morning:


Putting religion back in schools is a principal ¡°culture war¡± issue of the right wing in the USA. It was the issue that led to the founding of PLANS, Inc.

-Dan


Re: Weleda article

 

Hi,
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And so I did¡­
Lea, I included the link to your opinion piece in TAZ, to good effect.
¡°The cooperation with Weleda will soon be terminated¡±, was the response I got from the museum. I didn¡¯t get a specific reason for this termination, but my guess is that they got more than one complaint.
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Greetings,
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Kokanje


Re: Gregoire Perra: False testimony in an organized gang among anthroposophists

 

Hi all,
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talking about Perra¡­
I found this French site with testimonies of people who slid down the slippery slopes of anthroposophy and crawled back up. The general context is biodynamic agriculture, but Waldorf/Steiner schools are mentioned also.
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They¡¯re longreads, so take your time. I suggest you translate them in your browser.
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Here¡¯s the link:

Perra, Peter, Waldorf Critics and even Tom Mellet¡¯s name pass by. Tom, did you know you¡¯re famous in France? ;-)
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greetings,
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Kokanje


Re: Weleda article

 

Hi all,
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a late addition to this thread.
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this news about Weleda¡¯s past clearly did not reach Holland yet. I visited the museum for Natural Sciences (Naturalis) in the city of Leiden recently. A wonderful museum and genuine temple of science (look it up for pictures!): they have a specimen of the world¡¯s first cloned bull for example.
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But in the museum¡¯s shop there is an entire wall dedicated to Weleda products. It¡¯s the only company that has such visibility in the entire shop. Very strange. I wonder how Weleda managed to pull this off in a place dedicated to scientifical thinking.
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Maybe I should send them some info.
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Greetings, Kokanje


Re: Gregoire Perra: False testimony in an organized gang among anthroposophists

 

Thanks Dan,
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your post comes at the right moment, as I just criticized the management of a biodynamic farming school in a closed Facebook group, consisting of all the past and present course participants. The first reaction was: ¡°This is not the place to speak of these things.¡± I¡¯m curious what will follow, but at least I know what to expect in a worst case scenario. And I¡¯m safely out of their grasp (I think) because I¡¯m not in the anthrosphere any more. But you never know¡­
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The article also reminded me of a story I recently heard about the Camphill were I worked from one of the non-anthroposophical caretakers. The parents of a patient were asking difficult questions to the management. So what happened: reports about the person with disabilities became worse and worse, up to the point that he is trapped there, because no other institution will take him because of these bad reports. The parents are with their backs to the wall now, so they won¡¯t complain any more. In staid they are paying hard cash for their son to get the personal treatment he needs, still at the Camphill, but now unsubsidized.
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Unfortunately these stories by Perra are still true.
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Thanks again for sharing,
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Kokanje


Gregoire Perra: False testimony in an organized gang among anthroposophists

 

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The following is a post on Gregoire Perra¡¯s blog, translated from French by Microsoft Edge.

posted here by Dan Dugan

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A recurrent practice in anthroposophy

The memory of an experience within a sectarian drift is comparable to a deep well in which the dirtiest things are found at the bottom: we only manage to bring them to the surface last.

During my many years spent in anthroposophy, I have often witnessed a recurrent practice of anthroposophists, whose nature this article aims to expose, to understand its mechanisms and to unveil its stakes.

This practice is that of false testimony in an organized gang. If I consider myself able to describe and bear witness to it today, it is because I have observed it on many occasions, not only when I was still an anthroposophy, but also since my graduation from anthroposophy and my denunciation of the Steiner-Waldorf schools.

I would like to point out that I have observed it on a wide variety of occasions, some of which concerned me, directly or indirectly, but others of which were totally foreign to me, for example when victims contacted me to tell me what had happened to them.

Although I was not able to verify the veracity of each of their testimonies in an absolute way ¨C which would have required a police investigation each time ¨C I judged them credible each time, because they were consistent with my own experience and similar to each other. However, all of them came to confirm the existence of this practice of false testimony in an organized gang, which I had already been able to observe for myself.

It is on the basis of these heterogeneous experiences that I would now like to give my testimony and try to produce an analysis. This may be imperfect, or incomplete. But it is nevertheless necessary, because it is intended to lay the foundations for a public understanding of this phenomenon, which in my view is inseparable and highly revealing of the sectarian drift of anthroposophy, and its emanations: the Steiner-Waldorf schools, Biodynamics, anthroposophical medicine, the anthroposophical banking sector (NEF, GLS, Triodos, etc.), etc.

In the course of this analysis, I will be careful not to mention precisely the cases of which I have been aware, or the events I have experienced, in order not to incriminate anyone in particular and to protect the victims. My goal is indeed to produce a general reflection on this phenomenon, not to settle scores with anyone, or to denounce people and institutions in particular.

As I write these lines, I am aware that some aspects of the recurrent anthroposophical practice that I am about to describe are not only morally proscribed, but also undoubtedly fall under the law, since false testimony is forbidden, especially when it is used in trials, for the purpose of deceiving judges, or when it is knowingly implemented for the purpose of public defamation. Nevertheless, this aspect of anthroposophy seems to me to be too characteristic of this movement to be ignored, especially since many people have been victims of it in the past and will most likely be again in the future, as long as this multi-branched organization has not been dismantled and banned.

Nor is it a question, for me, of discrediting and shame the whole of anthroposophy by this article. What I criticize and denounce are not all anthroposophists, nor certain groups of anthroposophists, nor even their leaders. What I denounce is a practice, a habit, a usual method of anthroposophists to solve a certain type of problem that sometimes arises in them.

I am convinced that those who implement it have not, for the most part, reflected on the immoral or illegal nature of what they are doing, but that they are blindly perpetuating recommendations and ways of doing things that were put in place more than a century ago by Rudolf Steiner himself, the founding guru of the Steiner-Waldorf schools and of anthroposophy. In a way, it is he ¨C and he alone ¨C who bears the full responsibility for this, even in his tomb in Dornach, where his ashes rest, at the foot of the Goetheanum, the world nerve center of the entire anthroposophical movement.



Testimonies that are granted, falsified and fabricated

Let us begin by describing this practice, in order to have an overview of it and to understand its systematic implementation. By "false testimonies in an organized gang", I mean a modus operandi consisting, among anthroposophists, in producing, in various contexts, a plurality of knowingly false testimonies, in a concerted and coordinated manner.

This practice is therefore to be distinguished from testimonies with erroneous or even misleading content, but which have been produced in good faith and/or without any consultation or coordination. Indeed, these also exist among anthroposophists. Sometimes it takes a keen sense of observation to discriminate between the former and the latter.

It can indeed happen that anthroposophists mobilize, more or less spontaneously, to bear witness in favor of the achievements of anthroposophy, or to speak well of the Steiner-Waldorf schools. Their testimonies will then be spontaneous, or relatively spontaneous, or perhaps even guided by a framework proposed by the anthroposophical authorities, but do not stem from a deliberate desire to lie, organized at the level of a community.

It is therefore necessary to distinguish these testimonies, more or less spontaneous, from those that belong to what I call the process of false testimony in an organized gang, the characteristic of which is to produce lies artificially constructed and coordinated by certain authorities, or leading groups of anthroposophy, with a view to targeted deception.



Targeted
false testimonies
The phenomenon I seek to describe in this article is therefore very specific. For anthroposophists, it consists of first targeting a particular person. For example, in a Steiner-Waldorf school, it may be a parent of a pupil who has started to ask a little too many questions and criticise certain aspects of the pedagogy, or who has filed a complaint about serious facts concerning his own children.

In this context, they may also be teachers of these schools in conflict with their employer, who have brought their case before the Labor Court. They can also be students from these schools. Finally, they may be critics of the Steiner-Waldorf schools or anthroposophy, which anthroposophists publicly refer to as "detractors" in order to cleverly suggest that they are motivated by evil intentions.

Many people around the world and in a wide variety of contexts have had their honour and reputation tarnished, tarnished or destroyed by anthroposophists. The worst thing for them was not realizing that they were facing a recurrent and planned strategy to carry out what Rudolf Steiner himself called the "neutralization" of the critics of anthroposophy:

"This document shows us that it is not a question of bringing to reason those who write such articles, nor of convincing their readers. We just need to alert others to the fact that despicable people are wandering around the world writing slanderous articles. It is not a question of refuting the accusations of this kind of individual, but of doing everything possible to neutralize them. The mere fact that these people exist is in itself a prejudice. Rudolf?Steiner, GA 196

It should also be noted that in a letter recently sent to the Steiner-Waldorf Pedagogy Federation in France, which has reached us, a former President of this institution also uses the verb "neutralize" to qualify a large-scale communication action aimed at publicly discrediting me and silencing me:

We can therefore see that, since Rudolf Steiner, anthroposophists have always been concerned with "neutralizing" criticism in order to silence it, rather than responding to it with arguments.



False testimonies collectively elaborated and supervised

I will now try to describe how anthroposophists go about "neutralizing" the people who cause them problems. Indeed, when people are targeted in this way, they proceed in the following way:

To begin with, they elaborate a lie about them, in the form of a detailed account about them. This story is different and personalized each time. Indeed, it is developed from a meticulous investigation about the person concerned, based on knowledge of the intimate details of his life, his personality and his background. It is not only a question of the elaborated lie being credible, but also of being able to hurt the person when he or she becomes aware of it, by pointing out flaws in the person.

Thus, anthroposophists learn about personal aspects of his private life, his family or marital relationships, his medical history, his professional life, his possible criminal past or his habits. It is indeed a question of developing a portrait that is as faithful as possible and close to reality, while at the same time developing false statements. As a very senior leader of the Steiner-Waldorf schools in France once told me, it is necessary to "spread lies in which elements of truth are contained". To which he added: "the element of truth contained in the lie will come as a confirmation of the lie."

Teamwork


The construction of such a false narrative is very often, among anthroposophists, the fruit of the work carried out by a small team, which has devoted itself for a considerable time to its manufacture. Nothing is improvised or done in haste. Anthroposophists take their time, first gathering information about the target, discussing together the most relevant angles of attack, patiently shaping their lie, testing it and, finally, when everything seems ready, informing the governing bodies of anthroposophy at the global level before launching the offensive, so that it can be endorsed. Nothing is done without the goetheanum's green light!

These teams responsible for developing false testimony are made up of people who have a high degree of involvement in anthroposophy. They hold leadership positions. Very often, their family past means that they have known nothing else. They are reputed to be absolutely loyal and faithful to the doctrine and its emanations, to which they have devoted most of their lives. It is a question of absolutely preventing one day one of the people who participated in such an undertaking from becoming aware of the evil to which he or she has contributed and from testifying openly.

They therefore meet in secret and take an oath never to divulge to anyone the content of the exchanges, or the very existence of these meetings in which they participate. At the opening and closing of each of them, mantras by Rudolf Steiner are read aloud, in order to give these moments a solemn and sacred character.


The work is collective, but one person in particular is responsible for supervising it and making the final decisions. He is the "master of ceremonies". He is the one who will launch the attack and lead the smear campaign, once it has begun. This person will not take centre stage, but will remain in the shadows for the duration of the operations.

The people who are called upon to speak publicly, or to take responsibility for the defamation, are part of this restricted circle and participate in these meetings. But they only have the role of executors. They are smart enough to understand the strategy at work, but not smart enough to have designed it themselves.



Lying collectively to a member of the?school

community Let us now describe how this practice is implemented in practice. For this description, I base myself on my observations of it as an internal phenomenon of Steiner-Waldorf schools, when it is a question of the anthroposophical teacher community making one of the members of their team, or a parent of a student, or a student, to incriminate him and make him feel guilty, or even to make him doubt reality to the point of altering his mental health.

I have seen how members of the teaching team would get together, develop a fictitious story together, consider its possible inconsistencies in order to compensate for them in advance, distribute versions that had the function of complementing and consolidating each other, and then repeat the speeches, as actors would do for the rehearsal of a play.

These meetings even took on the appearance of artistic work, since a "director" or a "general coordinator" was appointed. The latter then checked that all the versions converged, organized individual passages where the "witnesses" had to improvise answers to questions they had not considered, had certain parts of the speech repeated, which had to be learned by heart, suggested particular intonations, asked to be silenced certain points, precauned certain emotions, certain gestures and certain looks.

When the lie had to be disseminated during a meeting, an organization of the meeting was designed, a round of speeches was organized, and fallback solutions were considered. It was indeed a real work of staging where everyone had their role to play, even though the people concerned (students, parents, teachers, etc.) suspected absolutely nothing.

The effect was formidable: the lie seemed all the more credible because it came from different sources that seemed to reinforce and complement each other. Even the person targeted ¨C who knew by definition the false nature of what was alleged about him ¨C began to doubt.



Collectively lying to?a National

Education inspector I was also able to observe how this bias was used to fool National Education inspectors when they came to visit a Steiner-Waldorf school. In this context, however, it was not a question of targeting them, but of making them believe that certain events had taken place, such as the holding of certain courses which, in reality, had never been given by the professors.

What was particularly clever was that some students had been taken into confidence and collaborated in the dissemination of this fictitious story. They had been given the task of stating this or that thing when the inspector questioned them individually, even though this did not correspond to the actual school work.

To prevent a particular student from being crushed by the weight of a lie that was too heavy for one person to bear, it was usually broken up into smaller, smaller lies and then distributed among a group of students. The inspector therefore received the falsified account from several sources, which unwittingly assembled a form of puzzle in his mind.

To my knowledge, this way of proceeding has enabled Steiner-Waldorf schools to obtain very good results, as the inspectors of the National Education Department have been caught in the trap of collective fables carried by children, which they could not imagine were entirely fabricated.



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I have already had the opportunity to mention, one of the problems that can arise in Steiner-Waldorf schools is the denunciation by them of families to social services. Families have recently openly testified in the press about these odious practices:

These denunciations take place, to my knowledge, and according to the victims who told me their stories, when the families in question prove to be a problem at school, because they ask too many questions about pedagogy and anthroposophy, or because they openly doubt certain practices.

The schools that make such denunciations are, I believe, convinced of the merits of their approach and of the fact that they are acting in the interest of the child. Indeed, for anthroposophical pedagogues, those who question anthroposophy necessarily come from families that are dysfunctional. It is because Ahrimanic demons have taken possession of it that they dare to criticize the holy Steiner-Waldorf pedagogy. The proof of this is that all the other families in the school ¨C therefore the "normal" families ¨C do not criticize it and are in admiration of every word spoken by the teachers.

At the same time as these denunciations, the school often begins to circulate rumours among the other families of the school about which one is the problem. It is indeed a question of putting her apart from others, in order to prevent their doubts from contaminating them. Rumours and defamation therefore have a sort of cordon sanitaire function, in order to preserve the purity of the opinions of families who are mostly in favour of Steiner-Waldorf pedagogy and anthroposophy.

The problem is that, following the denunciations, investigations are carried out by the social services, in order to determine whether these families are indeed dysfunctional and whether the children should be placed. It is therefore on these occasions that the other families and teachers of the school can be questioned by the social services, and will report to them the defamatory statements that are circulating within the school. The inspectors are then confronted with a context where terrible rumours have been spread about the incriminated families within the school community to which they belong. Some are the authors, others are only the propagators. For this reason, inspectors may encounter people who, in good faith, advise them to separate these children from their families for their own good.


This can obviously have disastrous effects, such as the decision to place the child in care, with immense consequences for his or her future and the link with his or her family. For having criticized anthroposophy, families can therefore be separated from their offspring: their banishment would thus be coupled with a potential deprivation of their parental rights, because inspectors will not have understood that they are dealing with rumors orchestrated with the aim of sidelining them.

Lying collectively to a police or gendarmerie
inspector
I have also observed this practice when some Steiner-Waldorf schools have experienced legal setbacks following, for example, complaints, and when part of the teaching staff and families were summoned to the police station to give their version of the facts. As investigations are currently underway about certain schools, I would like to point out that I will not make any reference to current events here.

Here again, I was able to see how the process I described above managed to deceive people who were nevertheless seasoned in spotting lies in those they questioned. Indeed, police inspectors are certainly used to people lying to them, but not to lies being addressed to them by an entire community. Since their professional habits consist of cross-checking versions in order to check whether they agree, the lies elaborated by the Steiner-Waldorf teaching community proved to be particularly effective, since they consisted precisely of a plurality of versions corroborating each other.

On the other hand, many of the witnesses were absolutely bona fide, since they were simply repeating to the inspectors the elaborate fable that had been invented by others and that they believed because it had been circulated in the context of the school community. This of course made it even more difficult for the inspectors to realize that they were being manipulated.

Furthermore, I believe that the reason the inspectors were looking at it is because it is more likely to be done in organized crime communities and not in schools, where they did not expect to see it at all.

Lying collectively in court

I have also been able to observe, on a personal level, but also by collecting the testimonies of victims who have had legal problems with the emanations of anthroposophy, how this practice was used to deceive judges during trial hearings, or through written testimonies. The context of these trials was that of industrial tribunals, proceedings before juvenile judges, civil proceedings and criminal trials.

For example, it could be a Steiner-Waldorf professor who had brought a dispute before the Labor Court of his department, but who lost his case in the last instance because the school had managed to provide an impressive quantity of false testimonies that all went in the same direction, i.e. against the plaintiff. Among these testimonies, there were even those of students, who had been put to work to "defend their school". They claimed, for example, that the teacher in question always arrived late for his classes, or was incompetent, even though he was sometimes not their teacher. The Labor Court did not go so far as to investigate this kind of detail, they did not detect the deception.

They could also be parents who wanted to remove their children from a Steiner-Waldorf school, following a divorce or ongoing separation proceedings. They were then in conflict with the other parent, who wanted his child to continue his education at the Steiner-Waldorf school. To get the judge to rule in his favour, the parent linked to the Steiner-Waldorf school then produced a quantity of written testimonies from other parents of students and teachers, stating that the child was happy and fulfilled in this schooling, which was not sectarian, while the complainant parent was described in a very negative way.

Here again, the juvenile judge saw nothing but fire, not suspecting that the apparently spontaneous testimonies of the parents of the pupils could have been elaborated collectively in order to produce a credible forgery.

Finally, it was a question of false testimony produced in court during civil and criminal proceedings. As part of the preparation for their hearings, the witnesses' accounts had been elaborated collectively, their speeches rehearsed and coached, to the point of anticipating in advance certain intonations and inflections of their voices, certain gestures and certain postures. They had also been trained to be able to improvise credible answers to questions that judges might ask them, or to put up with those that might be asked of them by opposing counsel.

For these witnesses, it was mainly a question of painting a defamatory portrait of a specific person, in order to falsely accuse him or her and discredit him or her in the eyes of the judges, based on a cleverly conceived account.

Their strategy to avoid conviction for perjury

Lying under oath and public defamation can be condemned by the courts. This places anthroposophists who practice this strategy under an obligation to circumvent this risk. I will now try to show how they go about minimizing the risks when they use this process.

First of all, as I said, the meetings whose purpose is to collectively elaborate the targeted lies are kept absolutely secret. No one should tell anyone about it. The sacredness and ceremonial nature of these meetings is primarily intended to consolidate their confidentiality.

Secondly, the strategy is to elaborate lies that are as much as possible by omission, rather than lies that would consist of inventing facts. Indeed, through lies by omission, if we do it right, it is possible to present an alternative version of reality. The deceptive nature of such a process is particularly difficult to detect because, technically speaking, for the average person, the one who lies by omission has not really lied: he has just "forgotten" to mention certain facts, which would have been absolutely necessary for the intelligibility of the situation by an outsider.

Lying by omission, as anthroposophists do, is therefore very clever. If they are later reproached for not having spoken about important points, they may pretend to have simply oversighted, or for not having been able, at the time, to talk about them, because they had not been aware of them. For a judge, who knows the unreliability of human memory, it will be very difficult to oppose such an argument.

To the omissions themselves, anthroposophists often add the highlighting or exaggeration of certain details. By exaggeration, I mean the fact that they can invest certain specific elements with artificial emotional charges, in order to magnify their importance. Again, they did not lie strictly speaking, but they slightly modified the narrative framework in order to highlight certain elements and hide others.

But in the end, it was indeed false statements and the dissemination of an alternative reality that took place. By lying by omission in a concerted manner, artificially emphasizing certain details and removing others, anthroposophists have indeed produced a fictitious narrative designed to damage the honour and reputation of the person they have targeted, and to deceive the judges. However, their clever tactics allow them to reduce the risk of being caught and convicted of perjury.

Lying collectively to the press and the public

When lying in court has not allowed anthroposophists to "neutralize" the targeted person, i.e. to silence him or her definitively, anthroposophists then use the strategy of public defamation. The false testimony, which they developed in a small committee, after having been discreetly tested, is therefore disseminated publicly, using the relay of the press.

Indeed, anthroposophists have many relays in the regional and even national press. In France, media such as Les Derni¨¨res Nouvelles d'Alsace, or L'Est R¨¦publicain, have many journalists in favor of anthroposophy. Catherine Chenciner, head of education at DNA, is an anthroposophist. This is also the case for a major national newspaper such as Le Monde. Le Monde des Religions is directed by an anthroposophist: Virginie Larousse. The newspaper Marianne currently has an editor-in-chief, Marie-Estelle Pech, who is close to anthroposophists and the Steiner-Waldorf schools. Lloyd Cherry, a journalist at France Inter and deputy editor-in-chief of M¨¦tal Hurlant, is a former Steiner-Waldorf student close to anthroposophists who actively participated in the smear campaign against me. In other countries, such as Germany, other newspapers are linked to anthroposophical networks.

Anthroposophists can therefore ask them to relay the false testimonies they have elaborated against a person who denounces them a little too successfully. This has taken place, for example, in Germany, with the whistleblower Oliver Rautenberg, in the United States with Roger Rawlings, or in Sweden with Alicia Hamberg. This also took place with me, in the columns of the newspaper Le Monde.

The problem for anthroposophists is that these newspapers are bound by a requirement of appearance of ethics. They cannot circulate defamatory statements about specific people without risking a lawsuit, or at least tarnishing their reputation in the long term. This is why it is necessary for anthroposophists to call on what could be called pseudo-journalists, or downgraded journalists, who will take care of the dirty work, in return for a remuneration that is most often undeclared.

In Switzerland, the pseudo-journalist Martin Bernard published a filthy article about me in 2019 in order to spread the defamatory rumours of anthroposophists about me, in an attempt to discredit my testimony. In France, it is currently the downgraded journalist Brice Perrier who is in charge of taking over, by spreading false testimonies against me on his own blog.

A practice favored by self-absorption and the habit of lying

The question that arises at the end of this presentation is to ask how such a practice is possible within the anthroposophical community? Indeed, anthroposophists are human beings like any other. As such, the fact of knowingly fabricating and disseminating false testimonies against people they want to "neutralize" at all costs could provoke in them a form of moral repugnance and self-loathing.

However, in no country, at no time, has it been possible to observe that anthroposophists who participated in such undertakings have not expressed the slightest regret, even many years later. None of the people who witnessed it protested, either internally or externally, against such a practice. Most of them died taking their secret to their graves, and never having breathed a word to souls who live by the misdeeds to which they had contributed, or assisted. How is this possible?

In my opinion, such a capacity to take on these heinous acts comes from the fact that the notions of "good and evil", of "justice and injustice" are deliberately blurred in anthroposophical doctrine. Respect for laws and morals is described as superfluous. The notion of honor does not exist there, while the multiple meditation exercises have the effect ¨C and no doubt also the function ¨C of making anthroposophists morally insensitive. The latter therefore persuade themselves, individually and collectively, that they are acting for the good of humanity and defending the achievements of anthroposophy by the worst means.

Moreover, in my opinion, anthroposophists manage to obtain from everyone the false testimonies they ask of them through demonization. By describing the targeted person as diabolical, perverse, harmful, criminal, etc., they create a kind of climate of hatred and a ripple effect that justifies in the eyes of those who are asked to testify that everyone feels authorized to exaggerate the facts, to distort them, to reorganize them according to the objective to be achieved: to do everything possible to put out of action an evil entity that unjustly attacks anthroposophy, to Steiner-Waldorf schools, to Biodynamics, etc. A form of collective blindness and individual self-justification thus allows everyone to allow themselves to add their little lie to the collective lie, their little touch of immorality to public defamation, forgetting to have invented the fact themselves, or to have heard it from someone else and not to have been a direct witness to it, or to have confused their interpretation of it with reality.



An effective method that must be denounced

To assert, as I do, that anthroposophy and its emanations borrow certain methods that are observed elsewhere in organized crime is not to say that anthroposophy is a criminal organization. It is even less to call anthroposophists and teachers of Steiner-Waldorf schools criminals because some of them use this method. Nor does it impute, I say this expressly, the legal responsibility of the Steiner-Waldorf schools or the Anthroposophical Society as institutions. What I am denouncing are not people, or even institutions, but practices that I have been able to observe have a customary character.

In any case, the qualification of a criminal organisation does not fall within my competence, but that of the police and judicial institutions competent in this matter. My work and my writing have no other ambition than to lift the veil on a part of the reality of anthroposophy that I have witnessed, as I have been able to perceive and understand it. It must be included in all the other writings that I have been able to produce on this subject, for many years now.

The need for this denunciation became apparent to me when, over the years and the victims contacting me, I realized that many people and competent authorities were still being fooled by this practice, simply because it had never yet been described or formalized in a sufficiently clear way to be quickly identified.

I sincerely hope that this writing will remedy this lack and help those in need in the future, starting with the victims who do not understand what is happening to them. I also hope that it will be able to enlighten the competent authorities, when they are confronted with the phenomenon described in this article.

Gr¨¦goire Perra


Re: Online school in Spain "based mainly on Waldorf pedagogy"

 

Hi Margeret and all,

Interesting!
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I wonder how they do that practically. I remember during Covid lockdowns that the Waldorf teachers at the school my kids were attending, had quite some problems translating their teaching methods to digital learning. But, in their defense: it all had to go quickly and they had very little experience, let alone tools.
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For instance: what about hand written notes? Do they replace them with notes taken on a computer or not? And so much more¡­
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I looked at the website and at first I doubted that it was really a Waldorf school. It seems to be missing the typical Waldorf aesthetic. But Steiner is clearly mentioned. Same discourse as usual: they pay attention to free play, the child¡¯s individuality, natural environment (that includes laptops somehow), no stress through exams,¡­ but nothing concrete on what and how they teach exactly. I guess parents have to find out through other means.

So a question that remains is: what is being taught here?
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PS: on the hand writing. I noticed this research by a Norwegian university on hand written notes vs notes taken on computers:
There seems to be more brain activity when writing, compared to typing. Implying better learning.
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Greetings, Kokanje
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Online school in Spain "based mainly on Waldorf pedagogy"

 

The Colegio Socrates Nueva Era () describes itself as:

Original Spanish:
S¨®crates Nueva Era es un proyecto que nace con la finalidad de acercar a los ni?os a un conocimiento bello, ¨²til y con sentido de la vida y del ser humano. Nuestra misi¨®n es dar apoyo a las familias que buscan alternativas a la educaci¨®n de sus hijos, ya sea porque sienten una carencia en su aprendizaje y buscan clases de refuerzo o porque educan en casa y les faltan recursos para organizar su educaci¨®n acad¨¦mica.

Auto translation into English:
Socrates New Era is a project that was born with the aim of bringing children closer to a beautiful, useful and meaningful knowledge of life and the human being. Our mission is to support families who are looking for alternatives to their children's education, either because they feel a lack in their learning and are looking for reinforcement classes or because they are homeschooling and lack the resources to organize their academic education.

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Twitter comment in Spanish:
Un colegio Waldorf... online!!! A los antrop¨®sofos old school les debe estar estallando la cabeza y el "demonio Ahrim¨¢n" debe estar frot¨¢ndose las manos.
Auto translation of Twitter comment into English:
A Waldorf school... online!!! The old school anthroposophists must be freaking out and the "demon Ahriman" must be rubbing his hands together.

I wonder what Socrates would have said about having his name being used to promote activities based on Rudolf Steiner's teachings.

-Margaret


Re: In the Shadow of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

 

Hi,
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¡®Elite overproduction¡¯, could be a phenomenon that applies both to Steiner and RFK jr./Nicole Shanahan and could explain some of what is happening.

Here¡¯s an interesting article on cliodynamics and it¡¯s founder, Peter Turchin:?

For the fans of ¡®big history¡¯ and large datasets :-)
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greetings,
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Kokanje
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Re: In the Shadow of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

 

Hi Geoffrey,
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thanks for the input.?

you said:
I think the gist of it is that they thought Trump is non-spiritual and immoral- untruthful etc.?
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Do you have an idea how RFK is looked upon by anthroposophists you know? Maybe it¡¯s easier for them to embrace him, due to his critical take on vaccines and former membership of the Democratic Party.
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greetings,
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Kokanje


Re: In the Shadow of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

 

I meant to say that the articles being sent with urgency were from "Spiritual Foundations of Morality" Lecture 3
I have the others but they are summarized in the third one.
I think the gist of it is that they thought Trump is non-spiritual and immoral- untruthful etc.??
Here is a summary of that lecture attached- not sure where I found it.




On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 4:21?PM Geoffrey Gogan <ggogan@...> wrote:
I was thinking pre-election all anthroposophists?I know were vehemently anti-trump, pro abortion, liberal?minded.?
Some were angry that I favored him.? ?I was being thrown all kinds of articles - eg.?
Many of his proposals align with Anthro objectives, yet I have heard no joy at the prospects for change?led by Donald Trump and RFK Jr.

From Bing search list:
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has proposed several changes to the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) if he is confirmed as its head. Here are some of his key proposals:

- Vaccine Policies: Revisiting federal vaccine recommendations and promoting transparency in vaccine data2.
- Fluoride in Water: Removing fluoride from public water supplies3.
- Raw Milk: Increasing access to raw milk3.
- Food Additives: Banning certain food additives and chemicals, especially in school lunches.
- FDA Reforms: Overhauling the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to eliminate what he perceives as corruption and improve public health6.
- Holistic Health: Directing more research funds towards preventive, alternative, and holistic health approaches.
- Nutrition Guidelines: Reforming the nutrition department at the FDA and emphasizing nutrition education in medical schools.
- Pesticide Use: Revisiting pesticide and chemical-use standards.

Proposed Executive Order:

Declare a State of Emergency for Childhood Chronic Disease and Public Health
Pharma can¡¯t charge Americans more than what they do to People in Europe
USDA Panelists cannot take money from Food Companies
NIH grants cannot go to conflicted researchers.
80% of grants go to conflicted researchers.
FDA stop being funded by Big Pharma.
75% of the FDA¡¯s funding comes from Big Pharma.
FDA cannot be an independent organization.
Big Pharma cannot advertise on MSM
Make a National Declaration that children should not consume ultra processed foods
Work to cut down on Ultra Processed Foods by incentivizing companies who focus on non-ultra processed foods
Minimize Seed Oils- trans-fats damaging to endothelium - cardiovascular?system


On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 2:12?AM Kokanje via <landvankokanje=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Finn,
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the question is, does RFK love him back?
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To be clear there is no indication!
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But we all know, where there is anthroposophy, there are antivax ideas. We¡¯ll see if the opposite is also true¡­
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greetings,
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Kokanje



--
Geoffrey L Gogan, Architect Planner AIA
C 973-896-8334? Fax 973-828-0354

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--
Geoffrey L Gogan, Architect Planner AIA
C 973-896-8334? Fax 973-828-0354

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Gmail - Summary Chap 3 Morality.pdf
Gmail - Summary Chap 3 Morality.pdf


Re: In the Shadow of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

 

I was thinking pre-election all anthroposophists?I know were vehemently anti-trump, pro abortion, liberal?minded.?
Some were angry that I favored him.? ?I was being thrown all kinds of articles - eg.?
Many of his proposals align with Anthro objectives, yet I have heard no joy at the prospects for change?led by Donald Trump and RFK Jr.

From Bing search list:
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has proposed several changes to the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) if he is confirmed as its head. Here are some of his key proposals:

- Vaccine Policies: Revisiting federal vaccine recommendations and promoting transparency in vaccine data2.
- Fluoride in Water: Removing fluoride from public water supplies3.
- Raw Milk: Increasing access to raw milk3.
- Food Additives: Banning certain food additives and chemicals, especially in school lunches.
- FDA Reforms: Overhauling the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to eliminate what he perceives as corruption and improve public health6.
- Holistic Health: Directing more research funds towards preventive, alternative, and holistic health approaches.
- Nutrition Guidelines: Reforming the nutrition department at the FDA and emphasizing nutrition education in medical schools.
- Pesticide Use: Revisiting pesticide and chemical-use standards.

Proposed Executive Order:

Declare a State of Emergency for Childhood Chronic Disease and Public Health
Pharma can¡¯t charge Americans more than what they do to People in Europe
USDA Panelists cannot take money from Food Companies
NIH grants cannot go to conflicted researchers.
80% of grants go to conflicted researchers.
FDA stop being funded by Big Pharma.
75% of the FDA¡¯s funding comes from Big Pharma.
FDA cannot be an independent organization.
Big Pharma cannot advertise on MSM
Make a National Declaration that children should not consume ultra processed foods
Work to cut down on Ultra Processed Foods by incentivizing companies who focus on non-ultra processed foods
Minimize Seed Oils- trans-fats damaging to endothelium - cardiovascular?system


On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 2:12?AM Kokanje via <landvankokanje=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Finn,
?
the question is, does RFK love him back?
?
To be clear there is no indication!
?
But we all know, where there is anthroposophy, there are antivax ideas. We¡¯ll see if the opposite is also true¡­
?
greetings,
?
Kokanje



--
Geoffrey L Gogan, Architect Planner AIA
C 973-896-8334? Fax 973-828-0354

?


Re: In the Shadow of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

 

Hi Finn,
?
the question is, does RFK love him back?
?
To be clear there is no indication!
?
But we all know, where there is anthroposophy, there are antivax ideas. We¡¯ll see if the opposite is also true¡­
?
greetings,
?
Kokanje


Re: In the Shadow of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

 

Hi Kokanje,
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I can add that the far right anthroposoph Lorenzo Ravagli loves Robert F. Kennedy. If I remember correctly, Ravagli had a lot about RFK Jr. him on his blog. Thanks for your hint!
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Greetings?
Finn


In the Shadow of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

 

Hi all,
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In the aftermath of the US elections (I hope everyone has recovered a bit from the shock/celebration: cross out what doesn¡¯t fit), I came across this video from a few months ago by Nicole Shanahan (Robert F. Kennedy Jr.¡¯s former running mate), where she briefly talks about Steiner. In the conversation with physicist Eric Weinstein she says she¡¯s been reading Steiner and she names Ahriman and Lucifer. She calls it ¡®inevitable¡¯ that we live with these forces and claims that for humanity to move forward things have to be in the middle of these forces.
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You can hear it for yourself, here:
(from 18¡¯57¡¯¡¯).
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Not sure what this means now that Trump has nominated Kennedy as Secretary of Health and Human Services. But for me it goes to show that these ideas are not something from 100 years ago. They still circulate and now in the environment of US government (among other nefarious ideas).
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PS: on a lighter sidenote. I found this interesting book by historian Tom Holland (title: in the shadow of the sword) where he discusses zoroastrianism (where Steiner got the idea of a balance between good and evil and some sort of middle ground between them). Apparently the Persians applied this idea even to their beards. They claimed their beards were ¡®just right¡¯, not to curly and not to straight. I just couldn¡¯t keep this to myself :-)
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History just keeps repeating itself¡­
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Greetings,
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Kokanje
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Re: Reading research, asking questions

 

Thanks Peter, I added this to my page.


Re: Reading research, asking questions

 

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Thanks, Finn. That is a good introduction. There are some excellent examples of this sort of research in English. I would mention two books that give substantial attention to Steiner and anthroposophy: Egil Asprem, The Problem of Disenchantment: Scientific Naturalism and Esoteric Discourse, 1900-1939? (Leiden: Brill, 2014), and the earlier study by Olav Hammer, Claiming Knowledge: Strategies of Epistemology from Theosophy to the New Age?(Leiden: Brill, 2004).

A few years?ago I was asked?to write the entry on anthroposophy for the Dictionary?of Contemporary Esotericism. It looks at Steiner and anthroposophy in the context of the broader esoteric currents of the time. The text is available online:



Peter S.





From:[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Finnef via groups.io <vollnormaleforschung@...>
Sent:?Thursday, November 14, 2024 1:43 AM
To:[email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject:?[waldorf-critics] Reading research, asking questions
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Hello everyone,
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I have written a short page with a very very very brief introduction to research on esotericism, especially anthroposophy. I have combined this with an invitation to ask questions.
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In this introduction you will find many links to research literature. However, the list is not written in stone and is super far from complete.
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My main aim is to encourage people to read, ask questions and add input.
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The site is in German. Digital translation is difficult. If anyone would like to add a translation, I would be happy.
?
Greetings
Finn


Reading research, asking questions

 

Hello everyone,
?
I have written a short page with a very very very brief introduction to research on esotericism, especially anthroposophy. I have combined this with an invitation to ask questions.
?
?
In this introduction you will find many links to research literature. However, the list is not written in stone and is super far from complete.
?
My main aim is to encourage people to read, ask questions and add input.
?
The site is in German. Digital translation is difficult. If anyone would like to add a translation, I would be happy.
?
Greetings
Finn


Re: New paper by Martin Rawson

 

Thank you Eeva!