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June 22, 2023 at 7:59 PM
Had I to guess, and I've had other of us first-generation graybeards guess, too, with similar response: I'd guess that?TDD as a practice has well under 1% mindshare. Very bad test-after is the trade norm these days.


I assent.

Russell Gold--As far as "reaching the rest:" I'm not sure, but here's what will always be an uphill (and losing) battle:

- teach people a programming language but let them figure out their own approach for how to put solutions together with code
- let them run wild with their homegrown skillz, building production software for any number of years, with few agreed-upon standards and minimal emphasis on quality and collaboration
- later tell them "you're doing it all wrong" and expect them to change their ingrained habits.

Way back when, I put my hand into an attempt to get the habituation started out of the gate. No one else came along.

Across a couple decades+ of teaching TDD, perhaps the best class I ever had was one complete full of developers with exactly 3 months of professional experience.

Cheers,
Jeff

Jeff Langr / +1-719-287-4335




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