Re: Why not Google Community
Maybe I'm the only moderator who supports the move?
73, Zack W9SZ
|
Re: Why not Google Community
Oh for crying out loud! I give up!!!
This is just discouraging. I guess the next step for me is to to forget this and unsubscribe from the groups. What a letdown!!
Thanks for sharing that, Cecil. And thanks for all your efforts!
Hasta la bye-bye. I'm done. 73, Mike
On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 10:31 PM, Cecil Bayona cecil.bayona@... [softrock40] <softrock40@...> wrote:
?
Because not one of the moderators supports moving the group. I'm ready
but most of the moderators are inactive, and the ones that are active
oppose the move or are pathetic, they won't even respond to emails on
the subject. The same thing happened when the group started getting a
lot of SPAM, hardly anyone wanted to do a thing about it.
On 7/24/2017 10:01 PM, Mike Waters mikewate@... [softrock40] wrote:
> I agree. Not to rush Cecil, but I don't understand why this hasn't
> happened yet.
>
> On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 9:53 PM, gjcollins@...
> gjcollins@...> [softrock40] <softrock40@...
> softrock40@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:
>
> Please, let's move on. The results of the [poll] seem pretty
> clear. Time to pull the trigger. Best regards, George, KC1V
|
Re: Why not Google Community
I agree. The value of Yahoo to Verizon is content. There is no good business reason to kill off content. There is too much angst here for no good reason. I am a member of many Yahoo ham radio groups and this so called 'problem' does not appear anywhere else.?
Sent from my iPad
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
On Jul 24, 2017, at 11:02 PM, Mike WA8BXN hubby2k@... [softrock40] < softrock40@...> wrote:
?
Perhaps the wrong question was asked. How many will move to a group if it is formed? If there were on the order of 100 votes to move, I suspect that is about how many will move. How many does that leave behind? Perhaps just those interested actively will move and it doesn't make much difference.?
I suspect the Yahoo groups will be around for a long time and the gloom and doom is unfounded. Yahoo was bought for the traffic and I bet they they generate a good bit of the total.
73 - Mike WA8BXN
|
Re: Why not Google Community
Because not one of the moderators supports moving the group. I'm ready but most of the moderators are inactive, and the ones that are active oppose the move or are pathetic, they won't even respond to emails on the subject. The same thing happened when the group started getting a lot of SPAM, hardly anyone wanted to do a thing about it. On 7/24/2017 10:01 PM, Mike Waters mikewate@... [softrock40] wrote: I agree. Not to rush Cecil, but I don't understand why this hasn't
happened yet.
On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 9:53 PM, gjcollins@...
<mailto:gjcollins@...> [softrock40] <softrock40@...
<mailto:softrock40@...>> wrote:
Please, let's move on. The results of the [poll] seem pretty
clear. Time to pull the trigger. Best regards, George, KC1V
-- Cecil - k5nwa
|
Re: Why not Google Community
The transfer from yahoogroups to automatically transfers all current members from the old group to the new one. No one here now has to? re-subscribe to the new one.
73, Zack W9SZ
|
Re: Why not Google Community
Perhaps the wrong question was asked. How many will move to a group if it is formed? If there were on the order of 100 votes to move, I suspect that is about how many will move. How many does that leave behind? Perhaps just those interested actively will move and it doesn't make much difference.?
I suspect the Yahoo groups will be around for a long time and the gloom and doom is unfounded. Yahoo was bought for the traffic and I bet they they generate a good bit of the total.
73 - Mike WA8BXN
|
Re: Why not Google Community
I agree. Not to rush Cecil, but I don't understand why this hasn't happened yet.
On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 9:53 PM, gjcollins@... [softrock40] <softrock40@...> wrote:
?
Please, let's move on.? The results of the [poll] seem pretty clear.? Time to pull the trigger.? Best regards, George, KC1V
|
Re: Why not Google Community
Please, let's move on.? The results of the pole seem pretty clear.? Time to pull the trigger.? Best regards, George, KC1V
|
Thanks to Robby WB5RVZ, and his valuable assistance, here are some links he graciously offered in his site, for those who need out of yahoo links. In the meantime effort is given to have a dedicated site up and running. Thanks again Robby. Regards & 73, Christos SV1EIA
|
Re: Why not Google Community
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
On Jul 24, 2017 12:29 PM, "'William H. Fite' omniryx@... [softrock40]" < softrock40@...> wrote:
?
Am I the only one who thinks it is really, REALLY time to move on? I can't think of anything that could be said that hasn't already been said....eight or ten times.
Bill KJ4SLP
|
Re: Why not Google Community
Hi Bill,
You are not alone. I have been earning my boy scout merit badge for self control and restraint in the presence of some of the nonsense presented here. When push comes to shove I can build and use radios with or without this list no matter where it is hosted (or not). Anything we do has consequences and we can be scared to petrification - just doing nothing at all. That has even more consequences. I am not going to take my ball and bat and go home regardless of whatever is done about moving or not moving. If I had any responsibility for the list it would already be moved and the extra traffic would be complaints about the new location <evil grin>. But don't worry - I am just one of the list peasants :) On lists where I am a moderator I do not kick people out for expressing their concerns even if it takes the form whining and pouting.
Some of my Softrock messages come from the 'io' list already anyway. Those are all placed (automatically) in the same folder as the Yahoo messages. Ain't computers great!? I'll be seeing you here. I'll be seeing your there. I'll be seeing you anywhere.
73,
Bill KU8H
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
On 07/24/2017 12:59 PM, 'William H. Fite' omniryx@... [softrock40] wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks it is really, REALLY time to move on? I
can't think of anything that could be said that hasn't already been
said....eight or ten times.
Bill
KJ4SLP
On Monday, July 24, 2017, Cecil Bayona cecil.bayona@...
<mailto:cecil.bayona@...> [softrock40] <softrock40@...
<mailto:softrock40@...>> wrote:
__
There is little possibility of two communities as if we move the Yahoo
Group will be disabled and eventually deleted.
On 7/24/2017 6:30 AM, m0fmt@... [softrock40] wrote:
>
> A word of warning. The RSGB have an LF reflector called Blacksheep a
> few years ago it migrated to Yahoo. The very small LF community is
now
> split between a cranky Blacksheep populated mostly by original
> diehards who actually build, experiment and operate and the
talkers on
> yahoo ....... so nothing changed apart from splitting a very small
> community...... sorry to be a drag,
>
>
> very 73 petefmt
>
>
--
Cecil - k5nwa
<>
--
William H Fite, PhD
Independent Consultant
Statistical Analysis & Research Methods
--
bark less - wag more
|
Re: Why not Google Community
Am I the only one who thinks it is really, REALLY time to move on? I can't think of anything that could be said that hasn't already been said....eight or ten times.
Bill KJ4SLP
On Monday, July 24, 2017, Cecil Bayona cecil.bayona@... [softrock40] < softrock40@...> wrote:
?
There is little possibility of two communities as if we move the Yahoo
Group will be disabled and eventually deleted.
On 7/24/2017 6:30 AM, m0fmt@... [softrock40] wrote:
>
> A word of warning. The RSGB have an LF reflector called Blacksheep a
> few years ago it migrated to Yahoo. The very small LF community is now
> split between a cranky Blacksheep populated mostly by original
> diehards who actually build, experiment and operate and the talkers on
> yahoo ....... so nothing changed apart from splitting a very small
> community...... sorry to be a drag,
>
>
> very 73 petefmt
>
>
--
Cecil - k5nwa
--
William H Fite, PhD
Independent Consultant
Statistical Analysis & Research Methods
|
Re: Why not Google Community
There is little possibility of two communities as if we move the Yahoo Group will be disabled and eventually deleted. On 7/24/2017 6:30 AM, m0fmt@... [softrock40] wrote:
A word of warning. The RSGB have an LF reflector called Blacksheep a
few years ago it migrated to Yahoo. The very small LF community is now
split between a cranky Blacksheep populated mostly by original
diehards who actually build, experiment and operate and the talkers on
yahoo ....... so nothing changed apart from splitting a very small
community...... sorry to be a drag,
very 73 petefmt
-- Cecil - k5nwa
|
Re: Why not Google Community
On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 11:30:01AM +0000, m0fmt@... [softrock40] wrote: A word of warning. The RSGB have an LF reflector called Blacksheep a few years ago it migrated to Yahoo. The very small LF community is now split between a cranky Blacksheep populated mostly by original diehards who actually build, experiment and operate and the talkers on yahoo ....... so nothing changed apart from splitting a very small community...... sorry to be a drag,
very 73 petefmt I can't say I'm a massive talker on this Yahoo! group beyond occasionally popping up to say "Oi you left lysdr off the list of Linux SDR apps" and "send me more patches for lysdr" :-D -- Gordonjcp MM0YEQ
|
Re: Why not Google Community
A word of warning. The RSGB have an LF reflector called Blacksheep a few years ago it migrated to Yahoo. The very small LF community is now split between a cranky Blacksheep populated mostly by original diehards who actually build, experiment and operate and the talkers on yahoo?....... so nothing changed apart from splitting a very small community...... sorry to be a drag,
very 73 petefmt
|
Re: Delta 44 DB- 15 pinout
Searching has produced no hits for me, so could anyone point to info on the pinout for the Delta 44 15 pin connector? I have a card and want to build a cable to my RXTXEnsemble. Wes, It's in the Files section of this group, but maybe easier is Gurgle "Delta44 pinout" is one. Ah! Here is Tony's one 73 Alan G4ZFQ
|
Re: Delta 44 DB- 15 pinout
Thanks for the offer Mike. I do not see them on the 5- site, but no matter. For some folks it is about having, others its building. I like to build, so will try to find some data on the card? to help in designing an interface. I have the time, tools and skills, and enjoy such challenges.
VY 73,
Wes AE6ZM
ARRL Technical Specialist
Sent from
|
Re: Delta 44 DB- 15 pinout
Wes,
You can buy inexpensive adapters that will save you a lot of work! There are four photos of two different ones, that I just uploaded to
I use the small one, available from . The larger one I don't use. I would sell it. The DB-15 cable comes with it. If you're interested, make me an offer. :-) 73, Mike
On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 6:50 PM, wesbflyer@... [softrock40] <softrock40@...> wrote:
?
Searching has produced no hits for me, so could anyone point to info on the pinout for the Delta 44 15 pin connector? I have a card and want to build a cable to my RXTXEnsemble.
Wes AE6ZM
|
Searching has produced no hits for me, so could anyone point to info on the pinout for the Delta 44 15 pin connector? I have a card and want to build a cable to my RXTXEnsemble.
Wes AE6ZM
|
Re: Why not Google Community
They also offer commercial accounts with more features. On 7/23/2017 8:15 AM, Michael Walker va3mw@... [softrock40] wrote: They all do that. Don't kid yourself.
The internet was never designed to be secure. If the data passes
through the US it is collected and analyzed. It's called Prism to
name one project.
No one does anything for free. Even groups.io <> must
be selling the meta data or they couldn't afford to operate.
Their data is not encrypted from prying eyes, including google or the
NSA.
Mike va3mw
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 23, 2017, at 9:08 AM, W2CTX w2ctx@...
<mailto:w2ctx@...> [softrock40] <softrock40@...
<mailto:softrock40@...>> wrote:
My 2cents = > Google = invasive personal data collection
------------------------------------------------------------------------
*From:* "Michael Walker va3mw@...
<mailto:va3mw@...> [softrock40]"
<softrock40@... <mailto:softrock40@...>>
*To:* softrock40@... <mailto:softrock40@...>
*Sent:* Sunday, July 23, 2017 9:01 AM
*Subject:* Re: [softrock40] Why not Google Community
Does groups.io <> push you emails?
I do prefer the way that the google community functions. Much better
organized than yahoo and I can very simply chose which discussion I
want to monitor to ignore. Yet, I can simply search as well.
It's easy to read on any device and you can also imbed pictures to
tell a better story.
Where do they get their funding ? How do we know a year from now,
they go through the same thing and someone else buys them.
Mike va3mw
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 22, 2017, at 2:15 PM, Cecil Bayona cecil.bayona@...
<mailto:cecil.bayona@...> [softrock40]
<softrock40@... <mailto:softrock40@...>> wrote:
Bogus? Well a month back we had the discussion on the list and hardly
anyone participated either, actually way less than 92 responded in any
way so the survey had a lot more responses.
So in your opinion is a not bogus way to discuss this issue?
On 7/22/2017 11:59 AM, W2xj w2xj@... <mailto:w2xj@...>
[softrock40] wrote:
Bogus because you have to log into Yahoo to vote. Most of us dont do
that. We just take the plain text emails.
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 22, 2017, at 11:46 AM, Cecil Bayona cecil.bayona@... <mailto:cecil.bayona@...>
<mailto:cecil.bayona@...> [softrock40]
<softrock40@... <mailto:softrock40@...> <mailto:softrock40@...>> wrote:
It's been over a month which I think is long enough to get people to
vote on the issue, the results are;
60 votes or 60% to move to Groups.io <>
< <>>
16 votes or 16% to stay until something happens
12 votes or 13% to let the moderators decide
2 votes or 2% not interested in the subject
2 votes or 2% to delete the group.
Not a very decisive size group voted but I was expecting that as most
people just read the messages and are not active.
A total of 92 votes of the members that cared one way or the other.
One thing to keep in mind the move requires no action on the part
of the
members it's all done by groups .io, they would move the
memberaccount,
files, photos, and messages, all I have to do is send them an
email to
go ahead as everything is already setup.
In the meantime as a safety measure I bought some software and I
have a
complete local backup of the groups files, photos, and all
messages in
case of a nuclear meltdown at Verizon/AOL the new owners of Yahoo
groups. Right now there is no mechanism to use that backup to restore
the user data somewhere else but the software can generate a MySQL
database so software could be written to do a restore somewhere else,
that is why I spent some money to have a backup of the groups data.
So what do we do next?
--
Cecil - k5nwa
--
Cecil - k5nwa -- Cecil - k5nwa
|
W0BTU
Wes WB7BR