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Re: Divide by 4 or 2


 

Kees,

It would seem to me that two JK flip flops followed by 4 exclusive OR gates to get the 0 and 180 degree shifts, would be a great way to minimize the component costs and still be able to divide by 2 and get the four outputs you need for a four switched capacitor Tayloe detector. And you wouldn't lose any gain, which is kind of important in a receiver like this for lowest noise performance. And it would only take 2 chips total.

The exclusive OR gates would maintain the same delay with the 0 and 180 degree shifts as well as the 90 and 270 degree shifts. Just tie the unused input of each gate to either gnd or +5 to shift either 0 or 180 degrees.

The JK flip flop schematic I posted earlier seems to be the most symmetric way of getting the 0 and 90 degree shift to start with.

But I also notice that no one makes JK flip flops anymore, at least for the high speed CMOS stuff. I don't know why...

Maybe someone else knows?

Bill

windy10605@... wrote:

John,

Here's my understanding of the I and Q representation. You have to
sample at 90 degrees apart in order to resolve the properties
(modulation) of the Carrier frequency. Therefore you always have to
sample at four times the desired carrier. Think of it as an X and Y
coordinate system. If the X and Y axis are not 90 degrees apart, you
have a difficult time resolving the resultant vector.
There is a difference between "sample at four times the desired
carrier" 4X the frequency and "sample four times during the desired carrier cycle" (90,180,270, and 360) which can be done with a 2X frequency and the Tayloe detector. That first divide by two is still
a "50% duty cycle forcer" which is a requirement for the Tayloe detector to work.

73 Kees K5BCQ



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