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Re: Question about re-install

 

Thanks Dave and Mike. I will try those suggestions. I think my bottom line question is...does a re-install of node-red overwrite or delete exiting flows?
Tnx de Arnie W8DU


Re: Getting started with Node Red

 

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No, but I copied the link from the description in the files area. I’ll find the right video

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Dave

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of utarctnradio
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2022 1:13 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [nodered-hamradio] Getting started with Node Red

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Thanks Dave! Was the powerline noise video the one you meant to include?


Re: 13 Colonies Dashboard

 

Updated the 13 Colonies JSON file in the files section under my callsign.? The last update.?

Changes before the event starts tomorrow at 9am Eastern
Added some CSS formatting.
Added IRC (search for irc for the install node) node to connect to the DX Summit cluster (no telnet connection for that cluster).? Here is IRC info if it doesn't carry over.? server : irc.radiochat.org channel : #CQDX
Added state abbreviation after the 1by1 callsign.?

Once connected to the IRC server and telnet cluster, will monitor all the spots and only filter the 13 colonies/bonus stations and display them in the table on the left hand side.? Feel free to add voice announcement or email notifications.?


Re: Getting started with Node Red

 

Thanks Dave! Was the powerline noise video the one you meant to include?


Re: Simple programs to run

 

Check out these Node-Red produced videos.? ?They cover all the basic elements.




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Re: Getting started with Node Red

 

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Here’s a zip file witl my flows from a few months ago and necessary files for Stream Deck integration

/g/nodered-hamradio/files/%211%21%20Flows%20by%20Type/MISCELLANEOUS/StreamDeckTo%20NodeRedIntegrationFiles.zip

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Also a companion video which may help

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Read the ReadMe file for information on using the flows and other files. Some have generic passwords set.

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73

Dave wo2x

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of utarctnradio
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2022 12:35 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [nodered-hamradio] Getting started with Node Red

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Dave,

Is there a place to download your setup specifically??
I have similar hardware and the streamdeck, but was having trouble piecing together the files to get it in one place.

Thanks

Andrew?


Re: 13 Colonies Dashboard

 

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There were three bonus stations last year, took me just under 9 hours to bag all 16. New personal record.

In addition to TM13COL you have WM3PEN and GB13COL as bonus.

Now that Xenia and my conference in Atlantic City are behind me I need to get back to Node Red.

Was working on station redesign for high power SO2R on contest bands while maintaining WARC functionality on my 5 band Yagi.?

Triplexer, diplexer and high power band pass filters ordered.?

Thinking of locating everything except radio in my garage. Monitoring ambient temp in garage.

73
Dave wo2x


On Jun 29, 2022, at 4:40 PM, Kyle K <kylekrieg@...> wrote:

?Updated 13 colonies dashboard with the TM13COL bonus station.??


Re: 13 Colonies Dashboard

 

Updated 13 colonies dashboard with the TM13COL bonus station.??


Re: Getting started with Node Red

 

Dave,

Is there a place to download your setup specifically??
I have similar hardware and the streamdeck, but was having trouble piecing together the files to get it in one place.

Thanks

Andrew?


Re: Bringing in a folder from files

 

Marty, yes import from the "hamburger" menu to import the json flow in the files section for the g90. Have not looked at the flow so don't know if there are any dependencies but you'll find that out shortly if there are.

Ron WB2WGH?

On Wed, Jun 29, 2022, 11:13 AM Marty Bluhm via <w8aks55=[email protected]> wrote:

Rather than screw this up, I thought I would ask as I can’t seem to find my answer.
I got a G90 transceiver from a ham in Ga to use as a test bed for learning node red interfacing etc.
In the files section , there is a folder with G90 flows etc.
i want to bring this onto my workspace and get familiar with it.
Am I correct in using the “import” to do this? I’ve done the update palette and install part but I’ve hit another bump in the road.
I ve followed the flows off the node red web site , coped them and they worked fine, learned a lot.
Thanks Dave wo2x for the? relay flow, working on that today.
Y’all have an enjoyable holiday and stay safe.
73
Marty
W8AKS






Bringing in a folder from files

Marty Bluhm
 

Rather than screw this up, I thought I would ask as I can’t seem to find my answer.
I got a G90 transceiver from a ham in Ga to use as a test bed for learning node red interfacing etc.
In the files section , there is a folder with G90 flows etc.
i want to bring this onto my workspace and get familiar with it.
Am I correct in using the “import” to do this? I’ve done the update palette and install part but I’ve hit another bump in the road.
I ve followed the flows off the node red web site , coped them and they worked fine, learned a lot.
Thanks Dave wo2x for the relay flow, working on that today.
Y’all have an enjoyable holiday and stay safe.
73
Marty
W8AKS


Re: FTDX101 ON OFF

 

Adrian, regarding standby power and the amp being off, we have a bit of a chicken and egg issue here. The flow has to query the SPE to determine its state (mode and power level) to definethe drive level. The SPE is polled every 250ms by default. If nothing comes back (amp is off) then all the decode (CSV status decode) and action (updating the dashboard) logic are not triggered. The exciter drive level is passed as a payload and the last payload passed will be the drive level before the SPE was powered off (typically the standby power). The issue is the exciter flow will not be triggered by the SPE flow as no new data is arriving.?

I can think of 2 possible solutions and both would require processing the exciter drive level in an exciter flow loop and the two independent loops could introduce an overdrive situation (yea, I worry about that) if they got "out of sync):
  • Latch the SPE flow provided drive level in an exciter flow flow context variable and not use the SPE link out and exciter link in as triggers
  • Latch the SPE flow provided drive level in a global context variable in the SPE flow and have the exciter flow pick that up somewhere in its flows
Some additional brainstorming required...

Ron WB2WGH


On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 10:17 AM Adrian Fewster via <vk4tux=[email protected]> wrote:
Ron, ok on that, It is an easy feature to use or not use and keep in the flow.,

I really like the way you have it setup to handle standby drive as well.
If using ANT1 with amp 'off' is there any instruction getting to the txcr for standby power set level?

As you know SPE off uses ANT1, Many prefer the amp off if using 100 - 200w from txcr
to avoid risk of accidental OP on, The drive control should prevent that but.. .

regards

Adrian



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Ron


Re: FTDX101 ON OFF

 

Adrian, Rereading some of your threads. It sounds like your goal is to have the SPE track the FTDX101 band if I understand you correctly. Are you using a CAT connection from your FTDX101 to the SPE via the SPE's CAT port? If that is the case, the SPE should be getting band data from the FTDX101. If not (and the SPE is not getting band?data), can you manually change bands on the SPE via the front panel"Band" buttons (band up, band down)? If you are able to do that, one could write a Node Red flow that walks across the bands until the current SPE band matches the FTDX101 band. It would be kind of a cludge as I don't think the USB port provides a means to set the SPE to a specific band.?

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Ron WB2WGH

On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 8:00 PM Adrian Fewster via <vk4tux=[email protected]> wrote:
Ron, your SPE flow txcr drive control works great as expected ;



I don't think this is possible, as frequency monitor in SPE can only be done by txcr cat connection,
but
I wondered if it was possible via the SPE nod-red instruction. so that node-red could provide the?
TXCR<> SPE frequency sync for band change / atu function etc. Impossible yes ?

73

Adrian



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Ron


Re: FTDX101 ON OFF

 

Adrian, the SPE exciter drive level feature was added at the request of a few users. I do not use it as I continue to manage my Flex with SmartSDR and not with Node Red. The 2K also has the ability to set Flex drive levels like the 1.5K. All testing of the drive level feature has been with a mocked up drive table and debug nodes.?

Ron WB2WGH?

On Tue, Jun 28, 2022, 11:35 PM Adrian Fewster via <vk4tux=[email protected]> wrote:
Ron, Ah yes i am familiar with the SPE flex method. however as I see you have the feature with your 2KFA,
I thought you may be using node-red instead to test it, hence my question.
I has tested the N4PY Pegasus program? using SPE? Flex CAT <> FTDX101MP cat translation in the Peasus
program feature to do the same thinf we are doing with node-red now .

So this feature you have added is just designed for no Flex txcr's then, but you can disable the SPE
feature and use node-red to test with your Flex yes ?

regards

Adrian


Re: FTDX101 ON OFF

 

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I will download the FTdx101 CAT reference manual and take a look.?

I will also download the FT991 manual for the CAT reference for that radio as well.?

3:30 a.m. here and will be home tonight so will not get to it until tomorrow morning Eastern U.S.

Did ?too much walking yesterday at the convention I am attending and another 1/2 day to go. Will have my friend drive back. With my leg and back issue I will pay the price the next several days.?

73
Dave wo2x



Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?

On Jun 29, 2022, at 1:19 AM, Adrian Fewster <vk4tux@...> wrote:

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On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 09:46 PM, David De Coons wo2x wrote:
Ok. Not knowing your or Ron’s flow exactly I was just putting it out there.?
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I have taken basic frequency info from within Node Red and created a Kenwood or Yaesu formatted CAT out.?
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If there is a way you can send the frequency of VFO A in non-split or VFO B in split then building the CAT out is pretty easy. ?Feed msg.vfoa and msg.vfob and msg.splitstatus into a function node and you could have it produce a msg.freq out.?
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Would something like that work? You would just need to tap the two VFO frequencies and status of split (on or off).?
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I’ll be back home tomorrow night.?
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73
Dave wo2x
Dave, Yes I am interested in that. If the SPE is set for FT-991 CAT (FTDX101 compatible), then a CAT INSTRUCTION?
meeting the FTDX101 CAT manual should work. Is a serial tcp connector fed from the Cat instruction string all that is required?
I would like to try it.
I could experiment with a dropdown first , then work out a function script. for read > send.

Thankyou

Adrian


Re: FTDX101 ON OFF

 

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Ok. Not knowing your or Ron’s flow exactly I was just putting it out there.?

I have taken basic frequency info from within Node Red and created a Kenwood or Yaesu formatted CAT out.?

If there is a way you can send the frequency of VFO A in non-split or VFO B in split then building the CAT out is pretty easy. ?Feed msg.vfoa and msg.vfob and msg.splitstatus into a function node and you could have it produce a msg.freq out.?

Would something like that work? You would just need to tap the two VFO frequencies and status of split (on or off).?

I’ll be back home tomorrow night.?

73
Dave wo2x

Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?

On Jun 28, 2022, at 11:51 PM, Adrian Fewster <vk4tux@...> wrote:

?On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 06:17 PM, David De Coons wo2x wrote:
Adrian
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Can you take the input from FTdx101D and send it out a USB to serial to the SPE amp set to Yaesu CAT??
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I did similar with Elecraft K4D CAT into Node Red then immediately sent it out two USB to Serial cables to Power Genius and Tuner Genius set to Elecraft protocol. That way Node Red received the CAT data and I split it in Node Red to amp and tuner.?
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73
Dave wo2x
Dave, Ron is the expert on this, however the SPE flow uses the SPE term program ; "?usb port for this purpose, and not the cat connection.
Now if a node red? serial port with cat profile/translation tables could be available as a node to emulate the Commander/Pegusus
feature, then those programs could be set aside and not needed. The reason for the comport follow instead of direct txcr connection on CAT,
here is that it allows the SPE to follow the sub VFO in TX/split etc. As my FTDX101 is using the rigctld server instead of direct CAT, it is probably more difficult.
It is always interesting to see what is possible.

regards

Adrian


Field Day Contest Dashboard Database Wanted

 

For those of you who used my Contest Dashboard at your Field Day site (multi or single op) I would like to get a copy of the database to complete some data scrubbing and see if my database calculations are accurate.

I would open up a Google Drive or Dropbox to have you upload, but I don't want any cross examination of logs from user to user.?

If you would like to share and have a way I can download your database, I would be very appreciate.? Please email me the link at my QRZ email address.?

Thanks!
Kyle
AA0Z

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Re: FTDX101 ON OFF

 

Adrian, with respect to the Flex, the SPE has the table internal to the SPE. The user programs the SPE with the band/power level exciter settings much like I did in the flow. The process is documented in the SPE manual.

Ron WB2WGH

On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 9:09 PM Adrian Fewster via <vk4tux=[email protected]> wrote:
Ron, Yes the stanby power works well.

I separated and imported the linkout section only and imported to my existing flow,
to keep my other SPE custom changes. I kept my existing link network for this and just disabled
to try yours alongside. I wrote a new script function on link in to handle the number translation
to rigctld power instructions.

I have noticed no errors and I have two levels of safety in my max txcr power setting and the link
in value must match?the function script to get a result.

How are you handling the traffic at link in for Flex ? Are the values sent direct or interpreted first ?

Thankyou

Adrian



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Ron


Re: FTDX101 ON OFF

 

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Adrian

Can you take the input from FTdx101D and send it out a USB to serial to the SPE amp set to Yaesu CAT??

I did similar with Elecraft K4D CAT into Node Red then immediately sent it out two USB to Serial cables to Power Genius and Tuner Genius set to Elecraft protocol. That way Node Red received the CAT data and I split it in Node Red to amp and tuner.?

73
Dave wo2x

Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?

On Jun 28, 2022, at 9:09 PM, Adrian Fewster <vk4tux@...> wrote:

?Ron, Yes the stanby power works well.

I separated and imported the linkout section only and imported to my existing flow,
to keep my other SPE custom changes. I kept my existing link network for this and just disabled
to try yours alongside. I wrote a new script function on link in to handle the number translation
to rigctld power instructions.

I have noticed no errors and I have two levels of safety in my max txcr power setting and the link
in value must match?the function script to get a result.

How are you handling the traffic at link in for Flex ? Are the values sent direct or interpreted first ?

Thankyou

Adrian


Re: FTDX101 ON OFF

 

Adrian, Glad the beta upgrade is working well. As to your comment regarding frequency sync, I think not. The API provides front panel like functions and frequency sync is not one of them if I understand you correctly.

As to the updated beta flow:
  • Can you temporarily add the "wraparound" LED to your dashboard. If he LED should go red (I think it will):
    • It can be cleared via a dashboard button push (e.g. change state or power level). I'd like to get a sense as to how often?it happens.
    • Prior to clearing the "wraparound" LED, try making a change on the SPE front panel (e.g., state, power level., ...). I suspect the change will NOT be reflected in the dashboard.?
    • These are the issues I've been wrestling with for the last month or so on the flow. I might have a solution but have not tried it yet.
  • From the video, it looks like the USB Status indicator still flashes with button pushes. Please confirm
  • I assume if you switch from operate to standby, the standby power level is passed to the exciter?
73, Ron WB2WGH


On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 8:00 PM Adrian Fewster via <vk4tux=[email protected]> wrote:
Ron, your SPE flow txcr drive control works great as expected ;



I don't think this is possible, as frequency monitor in SPE can only be done by txcr cat connection,
but
I wondered if it was possible via the SPE nod-red instruction. so that node-red could provide the?
TXCR<> SPE frequency sync for band change / atu function etc. Impossible yes ?

73

Adrian



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Ron