Adrian, regarding standby power and the amp being off, we have a bit of a chicken and egg issue here. The flow has to query the SPE to determine its state (mode and power level) to definethe drive level. The SPE is polled every 250ms by default. If nothing comes back (amp is off) then all the decode (CSV status decode) and action (updating the dashboard) logic are not triggered. The exciter drive level is passed as a payload and the last payload passed will be the drive level before the SPE was powered off (typically the standby power). The issue is the exciter flow will not be triggered by the SPE flow as no new data is arriving.?
I can think of 2 possible solutions and both would require processing the exciter drive level in an exciter flow loop and the two independent loops could introduce an overdrive situation (yea, I worry about that) if they got "out of sync): - Latch the SPE flow provided drive level in an exciter flow flow context variable and not use the SPE link out and exciter link in as triggers
- Latch the SPE flow provided drive level in a global context variable in the SPE flow and have the exciter flow pick that up somewhere in its flows
Some additional brainstorming required...
Ron WB2WGH
On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 10:17 AM Adrian Fewster via <vk4tux= [email protected]> wrote: Ron, ok on that, It is an easy feature to use or not use and keep in the flow.,
I really like the way you have it setup to handle standby drive as well.
If using ANT1 with amp 'off' is there any instruction getting to the txcr for standby power set level?
As you know SPE off uses ANT1, Many prefer the amp off if using 100 - 200w from txcr
to avoid risk of accidental OP on, The drive control should prevent that but.. .
regards
Adrian
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Adrian, Rereading some of your threads. It sounds like your goal is to have the SPE track the FTDX101 band if I understand you correctly. Are you using a CAT connection from your FTDX101 to the SPE via the SPE's CAT port? If that is the case, the SPE should be getting band data from the FTDX101. If not (and the SPE is not getting band?data), can you manually change bands on the SPE via the front panel"Band" buttons (band up, band down)? If you are able to do that, one could write a Node Red flow that walks across the bands until the current SPE band matches the FTDX101 band. It would be kind of a cludge as I don't think the USB port provides a means to set the SPE to a specific band.?
Ron WB2WGH
Ron, your SPE flow txcr drive control works great as expected ;
I don't think this is possible, as frequency monitor in SPE can only be done by txcr cat connection,
but
I wondered if it was possible via the SPE nod-red instruction. so that node-red could provide the?
TXCR<> SPE frequency sync for band change / atu function etc. Impossible yes ?
73
Adrian
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Adrian, the SPE exciter drive level feature was added at the request of a few users. I do not use it as I continue to manage my Flex with SmartSDR and not with Node Red. The 2K also has the ability to set Flex drive levels like the 1.5K. All testing of the drive level feature has been with a mocked up drive table and debug nodes.?
Ron WB2WGH?
Ron, Ah yes i am familiar with the SPE flex method. however as I see you have the feature with your 2KFA,
I thought you may be using node-red instead to test it, hence my question.
I has tested the N4PY Pegasus program? using SPE? Flex CAT <> FTDX101MP cat translation in the Peasus
program feature to do the same thinf we are doing with node-red now .
So this feature you have added is just designed for no Flex txcr's then, but you can disable the SPE
feature and use node-red to test with your Flex yes ?
regards
Adrian
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I will download the FTdx101 CAT reference manual and take a look.?
I will also download the FT991 manual for the CAT reference for that radio as well.?
3:30 a.m. here and will be home tonight so will not get to it until tomorrow morning Eastern U.S.
Did ?too much walking yesterday at the convention I am attending and another 1/2 day to go. Will have my friend drive back. With my leg and back issue I will pay the price the next several days.?
73 Dave wo2x
Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?
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On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 09:46 PM, David De Coons wo2x wrote:
Ok. Not knowing your or Ron’s flow exactly I was just putting it out there.?
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I have taken basic frequency info from within Node Red and created a Kenwood or Yaesu formatted CAT out.?
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If there is a way you can send the frequency of VFO A in non-split or VFO B in split then building the CAT out is pretty easy. ?Feed msg.vfoa and msg.vfob and msg.splitstatus into a function node and you could have it produce a msg.freq out.?
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Would something like that work? You would just need to tap the two VFO frequencies and status of split (on or off).?
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I’ll be back home tomorrow night.?
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Dave wo2x
Dave, Yes I am interested in that. If the SPE is set for FT-991 CAT (FTDX101 compatible), then a CAT INSTRUCTION? meeting the FTDX101 CAT manual should work. Is a serial tcp connector fed from the Cat instruction string all that is required? I would like to try it. I could experiment with a dropdown first , then work out a function script. for read > send. Thankyou Adrian
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Ok. Not knowing your or Ron’s flow exactly I was just putting it out there.?
I have taken basic frequency info from within Node Red and created a Kenwood or Yaesu formatted CAT out.?
If there is a way you can send the frequency of VFO A in non-split or VFO B in split then building the CAT out is pretty easy. ?Feed msg.vfoa and msg.vfob and msg.splitstatus into a function node and you could have it produce a msg.freq out.?
Would something like that work? You would just need to tap the two VFO frequencies and status of split (on or off).?
I’ll be back home tomorrow night.?
73 Dave wo2x Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?
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?On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 06:17 PM, David De Coons wo2x wrote:
Adrian
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Can you take the input from FTdx101D and send it out a USB to serial to the SPE amp set to Yaesu CAT??
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I did similar with Elecraft K4D CAT into Node Red then immediately sent it out two USB to Serial cables to Power Genius and Tuner Genius set to Elecraft protocol. That way Node Red received the CAT data and I split it in Node Red to amp and tuner.?
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73
Dave wo2x
Dave, Ron is the expert on this, however the SPE flow uses the SPE term program ; "?usb port for this purpose, and not the cat connection. Now if a node red? serial port with cat profile/translation tables could be available as a node to emulate the Commander/Pegusus feature, then those programs could be set aside and not needed. The reason for the comport follow instead of direct txcr connection on CAT, here is that it allows the SPE to follow the sub VFO in TX/split etc. As my FTDX101 is using the rigctld server instead of direct CAT, it is probably more difficult. It is always interesting to see what is possible. regards Adrian
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Field Day Contest Dashboard Database Wanted
For those of you who used my Contest Dashboard at your Field Day site (multi or single op) I would like to get a copy of the database to complete some data scrubbing and see if my database calculations are accurate.
I would open up a Google Drive or Dropbox to have you upload, but I don't want any cross examination of logs from user to user.?
If you would like to share and have a way I can download your database, I would be very appreciate.? Please email me the link at my QRZ email address.?
Thanks!
Kyle
AA0Z
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Adrian, with respect to the Flex, the SPE has the table internal to the SPE. The user programs the SPE with the band/power level exciter settings much like I did in the flow. The process is documented in the SPE manual.
Ron WB2WGH
Ron, Yes the stanby power works well.
I separated and imported the linkout section only and imported to my existing flow,
to keep my other SPE custom changes. I kept my existing link network for this and just disabled
to try yours alongside. I wrote a new script function on link in to handle the number translation
to rigctld power instructions.
I have noticed no errors and I have two levels of safety in my max txcr power setting and the link
in value must match?the function script to get a result.
How are you handling the traffic at link in for Flex ? Are the values sent direct or interpreted first ?
Thankyou
Adrian
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Adrian
Can you take the input from FTdx101D and send it out a USB to serial to the SPE amp set to Yaesu CAT??
I did similar with Elecraft K4D CAT into Node Red then immediately sent it out two USB to Serial cables to Power Genius and Tuner Genius set to Elecraft protocol. That way Node Red received the CAT data and I split it in Node Red to amp and tuner.?
73 Dave wo2x Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?
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?Ron, Yes the stanby power works well.
I separated and imported the linkout section only and imported to my existing flow,
to keep my other SPE custom changes. I kept my existing link network for this and just disabled
to try yours alongside. I wrote a new script function on link in to handle the number translation
to rigctld power instructions.
I have noticed no errors and I have two levels of safety in my max txcr power setting and the link
in value must match?the function script to get a result.
How are you handling the traffic at link in for Flex ? Are the values sent direct or interpreted first ?
Thankyou
Adrian
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Adrian, Glad the beta upgrade is working well. As to your comment regarding frequency sync, I think not. The API provides front panel like functions and frequency sync is not one of them if I understand you correctly.
As to the updated beta flow: - Can you temporarily add the "wraparound" LED to your dashboard. If he LED should go red (I think it will):
- It can be cleared via a dashboard button push (e.g. change state or power level). I'd like to get a sense as to how often?it happens.
- Prior to clearing the "wraparound" LED, try making a change on the SPE front panel (e.g., state, power level., ...). I suspect the change will NOT be reflected in the dashboard.?
- These are the issues I've been wrestling with for the last month or so on the flow. I might have a solution but have not tried it yet.
- From the video, it looks like the USB Status indicator still flashes with button pushes. Please confirm
- I assume if you switch from operate to standby, the standby power level is passed to the exciter?
73, Ron WB2WGH
Ron, your SPE flow txcr drive control works great as expected ;
I don't think this is possible, as frequency monitor in SPE can only be done by txcr cat connection,
but
I wondered if it was possible via the SPE nod-red instruction. so that node-red could provide the?
TXCR<> SPE frequency sync for band change / atu function etc. Impossible yes ?
73
Adrian
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Re: 13 Colonies Dashboard
Updated with integrated cluster to filter for the 13 Colonies stations.
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Re: 13 Colonies Dashboard
Next step, a full blown contest logger with Contest Dashboard integration...
...hold my beer...
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Re: 13 Colonies Dashboard
Wild, this is the one special event I never miss. I’ll be checking out the good stuff. I normally used pencil and paper.
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On Jun 28, 2022, at 4:06 PM, Kyle K <kylekrieg@...> wrote:
?I was not feeling productive during a work call and decided to make a 13 Colonies dashboard tracker to be more productive.? It's in the files section under my callsign. /g/nodered-hamradio/files/AA0Z%20-%20Contesting%20Flows/13colonies.jsonDatabase name : 13colonies Database schema
CREATE TABLE IF NOT EXISTS qsos(
? "timestamp" TEXT,
? "band" TEXT,
? "mode" TEXT,
? "call" TEXT
);
My Contest Dashboard has some instructions on how to create a database and load the schema.? I think the only non-standard node is sqlite3.??
13 Colonies starts on Thursday.? I don't usually log 1x1's and my printer broke, so I figured it was easier to make a database/dashboard than by a new printer. NUKE DATABASE deletes all the entries from the database, so use with caution.?? 73 Kyle AA0Z
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Re: 13 Colonies Dashboard
You need a life!? LOL
Nice work!
Mike va3mw
I was not feeling productive during a work call and decided to make a 13 Colonies dashboard tracker to be more productive.? It's in the files section under my callsign. /g/nodered-hamradio/files/AA0Z%20-%20Contesting%20Flows/13colonies.jsonDatabase name : 13colonies Database schema
CREATE TABLE IF NOT EXISTS qsos(
? "timestamp" TEXT,
? "band" TEXT,
? "mode" TEXT,
? "call" TEXT
);
My Contest Dashboard has some instructions on how to create a database and load the schema.? I think the only non-standard node is sqlite3.??
 13 Colonies starts on Thursday.? I don't usually log 1x1's and my printer broke, so I figured it was easier to make a database/dashboard than by a new printer. NUKE DATABASE deletes all the entries from the database, so use with caution.?? 73 Kyle AA0Z
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I was not feeling productive during a work call and decided to make a 13 Colonies dashboard tracker to be more productive.? It's in the files section under my callsign. /g/nodered-hamradio/files/AA0Z%20-%20Contesting%20Flows/13colonies.jsonDatabase name : 13colonies Database schema
CREATE TABLE IF NOT EXISTS qsos(
? "timestamp" TEXT,
? "band" TEXT,
? "mode" TEXT,
? "call" TEXT
);
My Contest Dashboard has some instructions on how to create a database and load the schema.? I think the only non-standard node is sqlite3.??
 13 Colonies starts on Thursday.? I don't usually log 1x1's and my printer broke, so I figured it was easier to make a database/dashboard than by a new printer. NUKE DATABASE deletes all the entries from the database, so use with caution.?? 73 Kyle AA0Z
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Re: Question about re-install
I have found some flows add to the CSS head section in Node Red which can cause issues with custom theme colors.?
Try this. If you have the CSS node that I uploaded in the file section, delete it and deploy.
?Then import the css flow again and deploy. Then try enabling custom and change colors.?
73 Dave wo2x Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?
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On Jun 28, 2022, at 3:10 PM, Kirk Harding <kirk.harding@...> wrote:
? Arnie, ? I found that using Dashboard, Theme, Dark, worked for me which you may have already have done.? I don’t know!? Using Custom, I did find that I was unable to change the Theme to anything but white so gave up on using Custom! ? 73, ? Kirk, K6KAR ? ? The problem is the one I posted about earlier...cannot get the background of my UI to be anything other than white. This happened suddenly and without me making any changes because it was displaying the dark them background just fine until it didn't. Does not matter what brower i use...all display a white UI backround whereas I want the dark theme background, as most of the dashboards I have seen seem to be. SO, I thought maybe reinstalling node red on my RPi might put things right.
Tnx de Arnie W8DU
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Arnie, ? I found that using Dashboard, Theme, Dark, worked for me which you may have already have done.? I don’t know!? Using Custom, I did find that I was unable to change the Theme to anything but white so gave up on using Custom! ? 73, ? Kirk, K6KAR ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of W8DU_Arnie Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2022 10:30 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [nodered-hamradio] Question about re-install ? The problem is the one I posted about earlier...cannot get the background of my UI to be anything other than white. This happened suddenly and without me making any changes because it was displaying the dark them background just fine until it didn't. Does not matter what brower i use...all display a white UI backround whereas I want the dark theme background, as most of the dashboards I have seen seem to be. SO, I thought maybe reinstalling node red on my RPi might put things right.
Tnx de Arnie W8DU
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Re: Simple programs to run
For a simple, get started flow, here is a video I did for a 4 relay control.?
I suggest you follow the WiKi to install the 32 bit OS on the Pi then follow the Readme WiKi to install extra nodes. Once that is done, you can follow the video to create the 4 relay flow. That will give you an idea on using the Node Red editor and dashboard.?
I have other videos that cover some other topics in more detail.?
73 Dave wo2x Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?
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On Jun 28, 2022, at 12:31 PM, Marty Bluhm <w8aks55@...> wrote:
? Thank you all for your responses. Appreciate it. Over more coffee and looking through the radios flow listing in the files section, I’ve came to a command decision. One of the first hard lessons I learned eons ago was you did not use an operational system as developmental system or test bed. The 890 and 7100 are doing their job and untouchable until I know what I’m doing. Looking down the list, I see flows for a x5100 or 6100 plus a g90 qrp rigs.? With not a lot of money to invest, perhaps finding one of these rigs on the used market and using it as a test bed until I feel confident to moving on ?to the 890 and 7100 will be the way to go. Kyles cluster flow is extremely interesting also. So that’s where I’m at, more video watching and learning. I’ll back on out of here and leave y’all alone. Thanks for the help. I’ll be back with some questions I’m sure when I progress further. Y’all have good days and week. 73 for now. Marty Bluhm On Jun 28, 2022, at 10:51 AM, Alan Blind, WA9WUD <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:
?Marty
I learned many of the basic Node-Red concepts by watching and learning from YouTube videos.
Then, as Ron said, downloading and understanding how others built their device-specific flows.
Alan. WA9WUD
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Re: Simple programs to run
Thank you all for your responses. Appreciate it. Over more coffee and looking through the radios flow listing in the files section, I’ve came to a command decision. One of the first hard lessons I learned eons ago was you did not use an operational system as developmental system or test bed. The 890 and 7100 are doing their job and untouchable until I know what I’m doing. Looking down the list, I see flows for a x5100 or 6100 plus a g90 qrp rigs.? With not a lot of money to invest, perhaps finding one of these rigs on the used market and using it as a test bed until I feel confident to moving on ?to the 890 and 7100 will be the way to go. Kyles cluster flow is extremely interesting also. So that’s where I’m at, more video watching and learning. I’ll back on out of here and leave y’all alone. Thanks for the help. I’ll be back with some questions I’m sure when I progress further. Y’all have good days and week.
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?Marty
I learned many of the basic Node-Red concepts by watching and learning from YouTube videos.
Then, as Ron said, downloading and understanding how others built their device-specific flows.
Alan. WA9WUD
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Re: Simple programs to run
Marty
I learned many of the basic Node-Red concepts by watching and learning from YouTube videos.
Then, as Ron said, downloading and understanding how others built their device-specific flows.
Alan. WA9WUD
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Re: Question about re-install
The problem is the one I posted about earlier...cannot get the background of my UI to be anything other than white. This happened suddenly and without me making any changes because it was displaying the dark them background just fine until it didn't. Does not matter what brower i use...all display a white UI backround whereas I want the dark theme background, as most of the dashboards I have seen seem to be. SO, I thought maybe reinstalling node red on my RPi might put things right.
Tnx de Arnie W8DU
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Dave wo2x
Kyle AA0Z