On Mar 5, 2021, at 6:01 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

That is how MultiFlex works.

?

Dave wo2x

?

?

From:?[email protected]?<[email protected]>?On Behalf Of?Tom Schaefer NY4I
Sent:?Friday, March 5, 2021 5:24 PM
To:?[email protected]
Subject:?Re: [nodered-hamradio] Interlocking

?

Not too complicate this too much but if this is going to go to network separated stations, wouldn’t it need the idea of a token request and a token confirmation? That way a station requests the baton and then waits to make sure it has the baton (by the other stations stating they do not have it).

?

Tom NY4I

On Mar 5, 2021, at 5:10 PM, Alan Blind, WA9WUD <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?

Steve

I went ahead and built a four-operator / PTT control flow. ?We can figure out the transceiver interface later. ?For now, I used a simulated "TX-True" or "TX-False" input. ?I also built a test panel with swithes to simulate the inputs.

Hoping others can jump in with their ideas.

The .json file is attached to this message.

The flow will operate a GPIO based relay to operate either a PTT circuit or the "TX Inhibit" RCA connection to the Flex. ?We can replace the relay with a TCP-based inhibit later.

If an operator has "TX-True", all other operators cannot TX. ?The dashboard, on each flow, will show the TX status of all four stations.

There are four flows, one for each operator. ?All the flows are connected via a mosquito MQTT broker, so each station can be remote from the others. ?You will need to install Mosequetto on a single device and reconfigure the MQTT ?in and out Nodes to the IP address of the device.

Each operator can see the status of all four stations on their Dashboard. ?

The flow can be run on either Windows or Raspberry Pi. ?You can use a Pi 3 with no problems to save on costs.

Here is the main part of the flow:


<Screen Shot 2021-03-05 at 4.51.07 PM.png>

And here is the dashboard:

<Screen Shot 2021-03-05 at 4.50.42 PM.png>

Alan
WA9WUD

"

<Multi Station TX Flow.json>

?

On Mar 5, 2021, at 8:21 PM, Charlie Rubenstein <charlier@...> wrote:

?Sure, really anytime works for me Alan. It?looked like it installed ok, but then didn't run. I tried checking the status of the service and this is what I got:

pi@SDRPlay:~ $ sudo systemctl status FRStackWebApi

● FRStackWebApi.service - FRStack Web APIs

?? Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/FRStackWebApi.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled)

?? Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Fri 2021-03-05 20:15:52 EST; 2min 5s ago

? Process: 5412 ExecStart=/usr/bin/dotnet FRStackWebApi.dll --urls http://*:5025 (code=exited, status=150)

?Main PID: 5412 (code=exited, status=150)

?

Mar 05 20:15:51 SDRPlay systemd[1]: FRStackWebApi.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'.

Mar 05 20:15:51 SDRPlay systemd[1]: Failed to start FRStack Web APIs.

Mar 05 20:15:52 SDRPlay systemd[1]: FRStackWebApi.service: Service RestartSec=100ms expired, scheduling restart.

Mar 05 20:15:52 SDRPlay systemd[1]: FRStackWebApi.service: Scheduled restart job, restart counter is at 5.

Mar 05 20:15:52 SDRPlay systemd[1]: Stopped FRStack Web APIs.

Mar 05 20:15:52 SDRPlay systemd[1]: FRStackWebApi.service: Start request repeated too quickly.

Mar 05 20:15:52 SDRPlay systemd[1]: FRStackWebApi.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'.

Mar 05 20:15:52 SDRPlay systemd[1]: Failed to start FRStack Web APIs.

pi@SDRPlay:~ $?


Charlie

So, what ever time works for you, I'm fine.

On Mar 5, 2021, at 6:01 PM, David De Coons wo2x <RocketNJ@...> wrote:

?

That is how MultiFlex works.

?

Dave wo2x

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tom Schaefer NY4I
Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 5:24 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [nodered-hamradio] Interlocking

?

Not too complicate this too much but if this is going to go to network separated stations, wouldn’t it need the idea of a token request and a token confirmation? That way a station requests the baton and then waits to make sure it has the baton (by the other stations stating they do not have it).

?

Tom NY4I

On Mar 5, 2021, at 5:10 PM, Alan Blind, WA9WUD <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?

Steve

I went ahead and built a four-operator / PTT control flow. ?We can figure out the transceiver interface later. ?For now, I used a simulated "TX-True" or "TX-False" input. ?I also built a test panel with swithes to simulate the inputs.

Hoping others can jump in with their ideas.

The .json file is attached to this message.

The flow will operate a GPIO based relay to operate either a PTT circuit or the "TX Inhibit" RCA connection to the Flex. ?We can replace the relay with a TCP-based inhibit later.

If an operator has "TX-True", all other operators cannot TX. ?The dashboard, on each flow, will show the TX status of all four stations.

There are four flows, one for each operator. ?All the flows are connected via a mosquito MQTT broker, so each station can be remote from the others. ?You will need to install Mosequetto on a single device and reconfigure the MQTT ?in and out Nodes to the IP address of the device.

Each operator can see the status of all four stations on their Dashboard. ?

The flow can be run on either Windows or Raspberry Pi. ?You can use a Pi 3 with no problems to save on costs.

Here is the main part of the flow:


<Screen Shot 2021-03-05 at 4.51.07 PM.png>

And here is the dashboard:

<Screen Shot 2021-03-05 at 4.50.42 PM.png>

Alan
WA9WUD

"

<Multi Station TX Flow.json>

?

On Mar 5, 2021, at 6:57 PM, Charlie Rubenstein <charlier@...> wrote:

?Dave......how much disk space does FRStack take on the Pi's SD card?? I have around 17GB left on that card.

Charlie KB8CR

PS: Picked up the amp and tuner...pretty psyched....but have to wait for the balun to arrive from Balun Designs to use it.

I have an RF2K here.? I am not using it at the moment, but the only control is via CAT.

I've asked him for a TCP socket, but they haven't gotten there yet.? They have had an issue with their original programmer who passed away in the middle of the project.

Mike va3mw

On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 3:43 PM Dwight Bosselman <NS9I@...> wrote:

I like your idea - I ordered it with arrival on Sunday. ;-)

tnx Dave 73 Dwight NS9I

On 3/5/2021 12:59 PM, David De Coons wo2x wrote:

The advantage of the cable is to have the amp tune to the correct band and if you are using the antenna tuner in the amp it will preset to the correct tuning before transmitting. Otherwise when you first transmit you can be transmitting into a bad load (wrong band or mis-tuned antenna tuner). Personally I much prefer to have the amp and tuner on the right frequency before applying RF.

?

That is why I dislike the new PalStar solid state amp, no CAT input. I do not want to band change and have to send a couple of dits first.

?

I wonder if the new controller that replaced the Arduino is capable of a telnet connection for control and monitoring? That would be a question for Reinhardt. The KPA1500 and PG-XL are much better amps for remote operation.

?

Dave wo2x

?

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dwight Bosselman
Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 1:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [nodered-hamradio] rf-kit rf2k-s flows?

?

Yes not much being heard from Reinhardt lately.

Same for Flex, lotsa hype about a new version of their firmware for the last month, turned out only to be for those that have their Amp.

So Dave , with what Andy has has said, is it really worth getting that cable?

Thanks to all!

73 Dwight NS9I

On 3/5/2021 11:17 AM, Andy (KU7T) wrote:

Hi,

?

I know that the RF-Kit amp does not allow for anything be controlled via CAT, except the frequency. Also, it does also support RF autosensing, so the CAT is not even needed.

?

What is the exact purpose of a flow for the RFKit?? Ideally, I would like to see the output power, SWR and stuff like that but none of these will be available on CAT.? I had hoped that RFKIT would support these things by now, but their development has pretty much been stalled for years.

?

73

Andy

KU7T

?

Sent from for Windows 10

?

From: Dwight Bosselman
Sent: Friday, March 5, 2021 9:06 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [nodered-hamradio] rf-kit rf2k-s flows?

?

Hmm, I can't get that to come up Dave.

Amazon opens active on another one of my orders. Strange. Can you give me a model number or something?

?

On 3/5/2021 10:53 AM, David De Coons wo2x wrote:

This is the one I have tested and works. Must have FTDI chipset and not a bootleg

?

Dave

?

?

Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.?

On Mar 5, 2021, at 11:49 AM, Dwight Bosselman <NS9I@...> wrote:

?

Hi Dave

I don't have one of those cables. I see a variety on-line.

Would this fill the bill?

?

T U 73 Dwight NS9I

?

On 3/5/2021 9:47 AM, David De Coons wo2x wrote:

USB-A to USB-A crossover cable

?

?

Not too complicate this too much but if this is going to go to network separated stations, wouldn’t it need the idea of a token request and a token confirmation? That way a station requests the baton and then waits to make sure it has the baton (by the other stations stating they do not have it).

On Mar 5, 2021, at 5:38 PM, Alan Blind, WA9WUD <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

?

I can do that.? Could you give me an idea of what it would look like on a dashboard?

Alan

On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 5:23 PM Tom Schaefer NY4I <thomasmschaefer@...> wrote:

Not too complicate this too much but if this is going to go to network separated stations, wouldn’t it need the idea of a token request and a token confirmation? That way a station requests the baton and then waits to make sure it has the baton (by the other stations stating they do not have it).

Tom NY4I

On Mar 5, 2021, at 5:10 PM, Alan Blind, WA9WUD <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

Steve

I went ahead and built a four-operator / PTT control flow.? We can figure out the transceiver interface later.? For now, I used a simulated "TX-True" or "TX-False" input.? I also built a test panel with swithes to simulate the inputs.

Hoping others can jump in with their ideas.

The .json file is attached to this message.

The flow will operate a GPIO based relay to operate either a PTT circuit or the "TX Inhibit" RCA connection to the Flex.? We can replace the relay with a TCP-based inhibit later.

If an operator has "TX-True", all other operators cannot TX.? The dashboard, on each flow, will show the TX status of all four stations.

There are four flows, one for each operator.? All the flows are connected via a mosquito MQTT broker, so each station can be remote from the others.? You will need to install Mosequetto on a single device and reconfigure the MQTT ?in and out Nodes to the IP address of the device.

Each operator can see the status of all four stations on their Dashboard. ?

The flow can be run on either Windows or Raspberry Pi.? You can use a Pi 3 with no problems to save on costs.

Here is the main part of the flow:


<Screen Shot 2021-03-05 at 4.51.07 PM.png>

And here is the dashboard:

<Screen Shot 2021-03-05 at 4.50.42 PM.png>

Alan
WA9WUD

"

<Multi Station TX Flow.json>

Gary

?

As I recall, the serial connections worked reasonably well.? The issue was the delay and sometimes missed commands.? The SDA100 status return was always good.

?

I assume you are using Transceiver control via the top DB9 (data in) and the Raspberry Pi is on the lower DB9(data out)? ??

?

Also, check your Flex USB cable configuration to be sure the frequency target is set as you expect (could explain the difference in observed frequencies, i.e. follow tx slice may have a different frequency than following active slice).

?

I highly?recommend?you use the FRStack version of my SteppIR flow.? It is a much-improved version and interface, with more options.? I can help you set it up if you like.

?

Alan

On Mar 5, 2021, at 5:10 PM, Alan Blind, WA9WUD <a.alan.blind@...> wrote:

Steve

I went ahead and built a four-operator / PTT control flow. ?We can figure out the transceiver interface later. ?For now, I used a simulated "TX-True" or "TX-False" input. ?I also built a test panel with swithes to simulate the inputs.

Hoping others can jump in with their ideas.

The .json file is attached to this message.

The flow will operate a GPIO based relay to operate either a PTT circuit or the "TX Inhibit" RCA connection to the Flex. ?We can replace the relay with a TCP-based inhibit later.

If an operator has "TX-True", all other operators cannot TX. ?The dashboard, on each flow, will show the TX status of all four stations.

There are four flows, one for each operator. ?All the flows are connected via a mosquito MQTT broker, so each station can be remote from the others. ?You will need to install Mosequetto on a single device and reconfigure the MQTT ?in and out Nodes to the IP address of the device.

Each operator can see the status of all four stations on their Dashboard. ?

The flow can be run on either Windows or Raspberry Pi. ?You can use a Pi 3 with no problems to save on costs.

Here is the main part of the flow:


<Screen Shot 2021-03-05 at 4.51.07 PM.png>

And here is the dashboard:

<Screen Shot 2021-03-05 at 4.50.42 PM.png>

Alan
WA9WUD

"

<Multi Station TX Flow.json>