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My architect son used to use a Cheese Grater Mac Pro, but his company had him move to Windows. He pulled the internal drives from the Mac Pro, but neither he nor I know how to get the data files on them to a Windows machine (his computer was dying when he pulled the drives).
I know there are caddies for bare 3.5¡± SATA drives, but I don¡¯t know if any of them can connect to the USB-3 (USB-A plug) ports on my iMac. My guess is that if we can do that, the best way to get them onto a Windows machine would be WiFi transfers over my LAN. Another option would be to put the files on a USB SSD stick, but if the stick is formatted to work on a Mac, I don¡¯t think they could be read by a Windows box.
Anyone have suggestions how to accomplish this task. Some of the files are very large (many-layer architectural drawings), so I don¡¯t think we could use a FAT-32-formatted USB SSD stick.
Thanks so much,
Jim Robertson
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Howdy. There are several ways to connect a Macintosh formatted HFS+ drive to a Windows box and move files back and forth. Check out Paragon HFS+ $20, and does both write and read. There are other options. Search for Macintosh HFS+ driver for Windows. Denver Dan On Sun, 3 Nov 2019 18:13:29 -0700, jimrobertson via Groups.Io wrote: My architect son used to use a Cheese Grater Mac Pro, but his company
had him move to Windows. He pulled the internal drives from the Mac
Pro, but neither he nor I know how to get the data files on them to a
Windows machine (his computer was dying when he pulled the drives).
I know there are caddies for bare 3.5¡± SATA drives, but I don¡¯t
know if any of them can connect to the USB-3 (USB-A plug) ports on my
iMac. My guess is that if we can do that, the best way to get them
onto a Windows machine would be WiFi transfers over my LAN. Another
option would be to put the files on a USB SSD stick, but if the stick
is formatted to work on a Mac, I don¡¯t think they could be read by a
Windows box.
Anyone have suggestions how to accomplish this task. Some of the
files are very large (many-layer architectural drawings), so I don¡¯t
think we could use a FAT-32-formatted USB SSD stick.
Thanks so much,
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jimrobertson wrote: My architect son used to use a Cheese Grater Mac Pro, but his company had?him move to Windows. He pulled the internal drives from the Mac Pro, but?neither he nor I know how to get the data files on them to a Windows?machine (his computer was dying when he pulled the drives).
I know there are caddies for bare 3.5¡± SATA drives, but I don¡¯t know if any?of them can connect to the USB-3 (USB-A plug) ports on my iMac. My guess?is that if we can do that, the best way to get them onto a Windows machine?would be WiFi transfers over my LAN. A USB3 dock that accepts 2.5 and 3.5 inch SATA drives. $30. <> Once you have this, there are many solutions open to you.
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Just get an external case with USB3. You can use it for backups after this.
Put a Mac Pro drive in the external case and connect to your Mac.
On your Mac, System Preferences > Sharing > File Sharing. Make sure the SMB option is enabled.?
A Windows machine on your network can now access the contents of the external.
Repeat with the other drive(s).?
You can do this over the internet using port forwarding if required but it will be much slower, of course.
Otto
On Mon, 4 Nov 2019 at 01:13, jimrobertson via Groups.Io <jimrobertson= [email protected]> wrote: My architect son used to use a Cheese Grater Mac Pro, but his company had him move to Windows. He pulled the internal drives from the Mac Pro, but neither he nor I know how to get the data files on them to a Windows machine (his computer was dying when he pulled the drives).
I know there are caddies for bare 3.5¡± SATA drives, but I don¡¯t know if any of them can connect to the USB-3 (USB-A plug) ports on my iMac. My guess is that if we can do that, the best way to get them onto a Windows machine would be WiFi transfers over my LAN. Another option would be to put the files on a USB SSD stick, but if the stick is formatted to work on a Mac, I don¡¯t think they could be read by a Windows box.
Anyone have suggestions how to accomplish this task. Some of the files are very large (many-layer architectural drawings), so I don¡¯t think we could use a FAT-32-formatted USB SSD stick.
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Just get an external case with USB3. You can use it for backups after this.
Put a Mac Pro drive in the external case and connect to your Mac.
On your Mac, System Preferences > Sharing > File Sharing. Make sure the SMB option is enabled.?
A Windows machine on your network can now access the contents of the external.
Thanks to you, Jim Saklad, and Dan Settles for the prompt responses.
From what I¡¯ve read and from what Dan indicated, I think I need to make the Windows machine able to read HFS-formatted drives by installing Paragon HFS+ on the Windows box. Is that not the case?
We don¡¯t face this issue right now, but what happens if we need to get files from a Mac drive formatted APFS onto the Windows machine?
Current plans are for my son and I to tackle both tasks (my iMac surgery and my son¡¯s Mac -> Windows enormous file transfers) when we¡¯re together for Thanksgiving weekend. We¡¯ll both feel like Turkeys if we screw up either one.
Jim Robertson
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On Mon, 4 Nov 2019 at 13:58, jimrobertson via Groups.Io <jimrobertson= [email protected]> wrote: Thanks to you, Jim Saklad, and Dan Settles for the prompt responses.
From what I¡¯ve read and from what Dan indicated, I think I need to make the Windows machine able to read HFS-formatted drives by installing Paragon HFS+ on the Windows box. Is that not the case?
We don¡¯t face this issue right now, but what happens if we need to get files from a Mac drive formatted APFS onto the Windows machine?
Current plans are for my son and I to tackle both tasks (my iMac surgery and my son¡¯s Mac -> Windows enormous file transfers) when we¡¯re together for Thanksgiving weekend. We¡¯ll both feel like Turkeys if we screw up either one.
If you use File Sharing you don't need the Paragon product, regardless of the Mac drive's file system.
Otto
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If you use File Sharing you don't need the Paragon product, regardless of the Mac drive's file system.
So (to belabor the obvious), if I get a drive caddy and connect it to my iMac¡¯s USB3 port, I can file share with the Windows box and not need the Paragon software on the PC.
However, if I hook the Caddy up directly to the PC, I WILL need to have the Paragon software installed on the PC.
So, that means do the iMac surgery first, and if the ¡°patient¡± survives we can get by without buying the Paragon software.
Thanks so much, Jim Robertson
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On Mon, 4 Nov 2019 at 15:01, jimrobertson via Groups.Io <jimrobertson= [email protected]> wrote: So (to belabor the obvious), if I get a drive caddy and connect it to my iMac¡¯s USB3 port, I can file share with the Windows box and not need the Paragon software on the PC.
However, if I hook the Caddy up directly to the PC, I WILL need to have the Paragon software installed on the PC.
So, that means do the iMac surgery first, and if the ¡°patient¡± survives we can get by without buying the Paragon software.
Correct. File Sharing makes a computer act like a NAS.?
Windows cannot read HFS+ (or APFS) natively, so you need a third party product such as Paragon. (Macs can read NTFS, the Windows file system, but that's not relevant?here.)
You don't have a working Mac? I thought you had a Mac notebook.?
Otto
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On Nov 4, 2019, at 08:58, Otto Nikolaus via Groups.Io <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:
You don't have a working Mac? I thought you had a Mac notebook. I have TWO working Macs, but both need some TLC. The iMac needs more RAM, and since installing that requires taking off the screen first, I¡¯m going to convert from my Fusion drive to a 1 TB very fast SSD PCI bus boot drive while inside So we can do it in three payments of six at three payments of 800 or four payments of 600 she said she preferred three payments away yeah we are going to that well if you take the total time she¡¯s there just for me it amounts to $600 a week Wikipedia part entire $2400 upfront we could pay $600 at the beginning of each week but she said she would prefer to have 800 at beginning of the first week 800 at the beginning of the third week at 800 when she¡¯s done so that¡¯s the way. The MacBook Pro has been my ¡±main man,¡± but misbehaved recently, rebooting every minute or two, although that stopped after I ran Disk Utility from the recovery partition. It¡¯s keyboard also annoys me, but that¡¯s not yet been a critical problem.
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I don't know how compatible the application files are between Apple ?and PC for specialized software like architecture is. That used to be a big issue in the past. I would give that a quick look, before investing a lot of time and money.
Brent
On Nov 4, 2019, at 7:01 AM, jimrobertson via Groups.Io wrote:
If you use File Sharing you don't need the Paragon product, regardless of the Mac drive's file system.
So (to belabor the obvious), if I get a drive caddy and connect it to my iMac¡¯s USB3 port, I can file share with the Windows box and not need the Paragon software on the PC.
However, if I hook the Caddy up directly to the PC, I WILL need to have the Paragon software installed on the PC.
So, that means do the iMac surgery first, and if the ¡°patient¡± survives we can get by without buying the Paragon software.
Thanks so much, Jim Robertson
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Or possibly buying a Mac mini for your son's work?
On Nov 4, 2019, at 7:58 AM, Otto Nikolaus via Groups.Io wrote: On Mon, 4 Nov 2019 at 15:01, jimrobertson via Groups.Io <jimrobertson= [email protected]> wrote: So (to belabor the obvious), if I get a drive caddy and connect it to my iMac¡¯s USB3 port, I can file share with the Windows box and not need the Paragon software on the PC.
However, if I hook the Caddy up directly to the PC, I WILL need to have the Paragon software installed on the PC.
So, that means do the iMac surgery first, and if the ¡°patient¡± survives we can get by without buying the Paragon software.
Correct. File Sharing makes a computer act like a NAS.?
Windows cannot read HFS+ (or APFS) natively, so you need a third party product such as Paragon. (Macs can read NTFS, the Windows file system, but that's not relevant?here.)
You don't have a working Mac? I thought you had a Mac notebook.?
Otto
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On Nov 5, 2019, at 12:29, Brent via Groups.Io <whodo678@...> wrote:
I don't know how compatible the application files are between Apple and PC for specialized software like architecture
Given your request for brevity from everyone else, my son and I do, and in his case, they are. ? Jim Robertson
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Jim Saklad
Brent