Howdy.

Article on how to disable boot when lid is opened.

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EaszPeazy in Terminal. You can copy/paste the command from the article
into Terminal.

Denver Dan



On Thu, 05 Mar 2020 16:07:10 -0800, Bev in TX wrote:

Well I started setting up my 2019 16” MBP, sand I am learning some
new things already. For one, simply opening its lid causes it to
boot. I found a command to run in Terminal that will turn that off,
but if you reset VRAM, then you have to reset it again. Actually
that feature also on MBP 2016 and later models and the MBA 2018 model.

If you have one of those models, what do you think about that
feature? Do you like, or dislike it?

For those who elected to turn that feature off, have you encountered
any drawbacks after doing so?
Thanks,
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Bev in TX

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iSent from iDan's GyazMail on my MacPro 2019

Howdy.

It may have been doing something routine for a new computer.

Do another shut down and cold boot and see how long it takes.

A Mac with an SSD, no external HDDs, should boot up fast.

You can also do the routine maintenance startup routines that have been
discussed frequently here.

Zap PRAM
Safe Disk Boot
SMC reset
Boot in Recovery and run First Aid

Denver Dan



On Fri, 6 Mar 2020 00:48:55 -0500, KarenP wrote:

It just came back up after another few minutes of waiting. But I’d
still like to know what I would do in a case like this and if that
long wait time for a restart is a symptom of something I need to look
further into.

_Karen

On Mar 6, 2020, at 12:41 AM, KarenP <waystation9@...> wrote:

I just restarted my iMac, and now it is stuck on the apple symbol
and the progress bar almost at the very end. It’s been like that for
about five minutes now. What should I do? Do I hold down the on off
button on the back of the monitor?

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iSent from iDan's GyazMail on my MacPro 2019

It just came back up after another few minutes of waiting. But I’d still like to know what I would do in a case like this and if that long wait time for a restart is a symptom of something I need to look further into.

_Karen

I just restarted my iMac, and now it is stuck on the apple symbol and the progress bar almost at the very end. It’s been like that for about five minutes now. What should I do? Do I hold down the on off button on the back of the monitor?

– Karan

Well I started setting up my 2019 16” MBP, sand I am learning some new things already. ?For one, simply opening its lid causes it to boot. ?I found a command to run in Terminal that will turn that off, but if you reset VRAM, then you have to reset it again. ?Actually that feature also on MBP 2016 and later models and the MBA 2018 model.

If you have one of those models, what do you think about that feature? ?Do you like, or dislike it?

For those who elected to turn that feature off, have you encountered any drawbacks after doing so?
Thanks,
--
Bev in TX

On Mar 5, 2020, at 3:10 AM, James I wrote:

Will you please contact me regarding 17” MacBook Pro 2010 - I’m having many problems including a corrupted OS install disk.

Note that many folks have had problems installing OS upgrades due to an expired certificate problem:

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Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)

Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance

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John Mills?wrote:

As I follow the various problems associated with the new MBP and Catalina, it?is clear that what is currently working for my office and at our home will not ?be?"improved". We'll be sticking with Sierra, High Sierra and El Capitan running on?MB Pros (late 2008 and 2015) and the wonderful MB Air models of 2013.

I can’t speak to the new MBPro, but I’ve been an early adopted of the newest macOS version (typically about 1 month before final release) for many years.

In my case usually about 10 days with daily reminders after.

Sent from JT's Ipad - maybe using voice dictation!

As I follow the various problems associated with the new MBP and Catalina, it is clear that what is currently working for my office and at our home will not ?be "improved". We'll be sticking with Sierra, High Sierra and El Capitan running on MB Pros (late 2008 and 2015) and the wonderful MB Air models of 2013.

Hopefully Apple will eventually sort this all out so IF one buys a new computer from them, it will work more seamlessly than is currently evident. For the life of me these new models and Catalina are reminiscent of the reliability and "ease of re-fixing" of an early 1960's British Triumph sports car.

John Mills

Please can you say when they appear?? Is it, for example, after 10 days, or ...?

Thanks

I'm still seeing them - 2019 MBP.

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On Mar 4, 2020, at 12:20 PM, Bev in TX <countryone77@...> wrote:

I was thinking of using Migration Assistant to transfer my files from my old MBP to the new one, as that seems an easy option. ?However, I would rather do everything manually if Migration Assistant automatically copies outdated programs (e.g., MS Office 2011} or detritus from ~/Library.

Congratulations!

I’m probably too late, but if you were considering inserting your applications and datafile manually rather than taking the “easy” way with Migration Assistant, I think I’d tell you that may be a good idea. Migration Assistant will NOT populate your new machine with 32-bit apps that won’t run. I think Office 2011 is 64 bit. I had Office 2008 on my old MacBook Pro, and the Migration Assistant just didn’t contaminate my new machine with it.

On the other hand, Migration Assistant won’t winnow out all the p-list and other supplementary settings files that are associated with applications it’s not going to transfer to your new machine, and that CAN cause issues. ...

?You were not too late with that excellent info. ?This is exactly what I needed to know before I setup my new Mac :-). ?I don’t want 10 years of detritus on it, so I will take your recommendation and manually install apps and copy data. ?That may take more time on my part, but perhaps I will also learn more about the new hardware and OS along the way.

As for the machine itself. The keyboard, of course, is said to be better. I like the “feel” a bit better and can notice the longer travel of the keys, but what’s promised is freedom from keyboard failure because of bits of detritus that wedge their way into the butterfly mechanisms of the laptops Apple made from 2016 through mid 2019. ...

Additional niceties include a Trackpad that’s not claimed to be better but seems so to me (it’s MUCH less likely to regard a gentle kiss of the base of my thumb on the keypad as a “mouse down” event that sent my cursor off to unpredictable locations.

I was a little hesitant about the keyboard, but was encouraged by good reviews. ?I especially appreciate your input on it and the trackpad.

The screen is brighter, shows more real estate, and I think is a major improvement.

It will be slightly less screen area for me, as my old MBP had a 17” screen. ?But I’m sure that adjusting to a 16” screen will be easier than it would have been for the older 15” screen.

The stereo speakers are marvelous.

The speakers on my old MBP were never anything to write home about, so I’m looking forward to those better speakers.

There’s a new security chip (this actually has been available for some time). One benefit of this chip is that if your old computer was encrypted, you can transfer your “stuff” much more rapidly to the new one because FileVault can now be turned off temporarily in short order, the reacctivated once you’ve imported your “stuff” to your new machine.

I’ve never used FieVault, but I guess I should start doing so. ?Or is it automatically used nowadays? ?Thanks for the tip about the T2 chip.

Just today, a Forbes columnist (Ewan Spence) published an article online that said, basically, that no one should buy one of these new machines. I sent him an email (I don’t expect a response. ...

I enjoyed reading your response and alternate title for that article. ? I read a couple other articles that discussed that LED rumor. ?Personally, I’m a bit cautious when it comes to new hardware, as I no longer enjoy being on “the cutting edge of technology” like I used to. ? I just want a computer that works well.
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Bev in TX

On Mar 4, 2020, at 4:01 PM, Jim Saklad via Groups.Io <jimdoc@...> wrote:

Bev in TX wrote:

Well, I finally bought a new 16” MBP this morning. ...

Are there any pitfalls of which I should be aware?

It will take some getting used to.

It will have a *fast* SSD, with APSF formatting.

Faster will be better :-). I guess that my USB 3 backup drives will also run faster now (I only has USB 2 ports on my old MBP).

It will have macOS Catalina installed.

If you look in Disk Utility, you will likely be confused by the presence of a <Macintosh HD> and a <Macintosh HD – Data>.
The former is the system and apps that are installed by the Apple installer, and it is read-only.
The latter contains all your user data, and all the apps NOT installed by the Apple installer … AND hard links to the Apple-installed apps, so it will *appear* that they are there also.

Thanks for that info, as I only briefly scanned an article about the new boot disk volumes around the time Catalina was released. I didn’t pay much attention back then.

There will undoubtedly be other stuff that I’m too familiar with to remember as “new”, so feel free to ask us.

Thanks, I’m sure that I will back with more questions.

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Bev in TX

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Bev in TX wrote:

Well, I finally bought a new 16” MBP this morning. ?I’ve had a number of?hardware and software issues with my old 2010 17” MBP lately, but another?unexpected crash on it this morning was the last straw.

I’ll probably set it up the new one tomorrow. ?Are there any pitfalls of which I?should be aware?

The latter contains all your user data, and all the apps NOT installed by the Apple installer … AND hard links to the Apple-installed apps, so it will *appear* that they are there also.

For a long time, if no TM backups were done for X days, then TM would tell you, remind you that you haven't backup up for X days.

Recently we have noticed that these warnings are no longer displayed.? I'd like to think that we will be able to remember anyway, but Murphy's Law probably applies ...

A bit of Googling reveals a number of discussions about trying to turn these reminders OFF, but none about turning them on, nor about them no longer appearing.

I could imagine (!!!) that they may not be considered necessary as the internal backups will still be made even when the external TM drive is disconnected.? Nevertheless I'd like to be able to turn on the warnings.? Does anyone know whether this is possible, please, and how to do it?

Keith
OS 10.14.6

I had requested help with Time Machine which refused to backup to my LaCie drive because it had become unencrypted. So I followed suggestions from the group to first of all to turn off Filevault (which took over a day), and after doing a SuperDuper copy of my hard drive to another backup drive, reformatting my LaCie drive. Now Time Machine is working but I was wondering if I should turn File Vault back on for my hard drive and would that mess up the Time Machine backup. Any ideas?

Joan

Well, I finally bought a new 16” MBP this morning. ?I’ve had a number of hardware and software issues with my old 2010 17” MBP lately, but another unexpected crash on it this morning was the last straw.

?I’ll probably set it up the new one tomorrow. ?Are there any pitfalls of which I should be aware? ?

I was thinking of using Migration Assistant to transfer my files from my old MBP to the new one, as that seems an easy option. ?However, I would rather do everything manually if Migration Assistant automatically copies outdated programs (e.g., MS Office 2011} or detritus from ~/Library. ?I read Apple’s blurb on using Migration Assistant, but they don’t give many details of what is copied.

Also, my old MBP is incapable of using Air Drop.

Thanks!
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Bev in TX