¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

ctrl + shift + ? for shortcuts
© 2025 Groups.io
Date

I'net Radio app suggestion(s)

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

Hi Budd

Here's a link you can use through any browser of any vintage that gets international radio stations... I use it on my iPad even....



Cheers
JR


Re: group directory #Resolved

 

Do what? Please quote a pertinent part of what you are replying to. Even if you have to cut and paste.

And yes, Tim, I will help her, even if I don't agree.

Brent

On Nov 5, 2019, at 12:00 PM, floridabouvs wrote:

I could not figure out how to do it.
Carol



Re: Stop Catalina Update Nag

 

From the article, I take exception to the leading run-on sentence:

"Apple is persistent about software updates. Since the updates are free, it¡¯s not exactly a monetary?motivation, though newer versions of macOS have an increasing number of services, like the new TV?app in Catalina, which inherits previous features from iTunes and will allow Apple TV+?subscriptions?when they arrive."

But monetary motivation is exactly what it is all about. Give away the razor to sell the blades. Eventually, the hardware will not run some iCandy, long before the hardware breaks. And the basic services of apps like Mail, Contact & Calendar, no longer sync with older versions.?

Just my 2 cents.

Brent

MacBook Pro,?15",?early 2008, OS X 10.7.5
iPhone 4S, iOS 9.3.6
iPad 3rd gen, iOS 9.3.5


On Nov 4, 2019, at 8:41 PM, Daniel Settles wrote:

Howdy.

Check this article about stopping the Catalina update nag.

If you do stop it, you may want to turn it back on at some point. ?

<>

Denver Dan


[|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|]

iSent from iDan's GyazMail on my MacPro





Re: group directory #Resolved

 

I could not figure out how to do it.
Carol


Re: Error message won't go away

 

Please quote some pertinent part of the email you are replying to.


On Nov 5, 2019, at 10:42 AM, Eileen via Groups.Io wrote:

I agree Otto!


Re: Mail Rules messed up

 

Jim, I had not gotten to this email, yet, and just posted the same suggestion in another email.

Brent



On Nov 4, 2019, at 5:36 PM, Jim Saklad via Groups.Io wrote:

On Nov 4, 2019, Janet Brunner wrote:
I set up all my Rules within the Mail app, under preferences/rules. ?How do I tell if they¡¯re in the cloud?

I see you¡¯re an ??@me.com? ??
So am I.

I¡¯ve had a detailed set of rules in Apple Mail on my Mac for many years.
Using IMAP on my Mac, iPhone, and iPad, my mail and mailboxes neatly synchronize among all three ¨C IF the Mac is booted up.

When all the sorting was done on the Mac, mail didn¡¯t get sorted if I was reading it remotely on my iPad, but the Mac was turned off at home.

So I took a different approach ¨C I logged into iCloud, opened Mail on that website, and set up all the sorting filters there, since that was the first place my incoming mail went, before even going to my Mac, iPad, or iPhone.

Of course, I also DISabled those rules on my Mac.

This is all by way of saying that, in MY experience, rules do NOT synch.
Having them on the mail server is the most efficient method.

--?
Jim Saklad
jimdoc@...
<Jim logo-tiny.jpg>



Re: Mail Rules messed up

 

Those created within Mail.app are on your Mac Only.?

You have to open iCloud dot com, go into Mail there, and create the Rules and I guess Folders there for IMAP accounts.?

I have yet to do it, myself. All my accounts are IMAP, but if I move or delete an email on my Mac, I no longer can see that email on my iPhone or iPad. The folders should appear on the other devices, but I would change the name slightly until you move over all the emails from you folders on the Mac.

---
As an aside, since my OS, 10.7.5, there that been some very low level changes in Mail, Contacts, and Calendar up until 10.14. Catalina, 10.15 seems to be another low level change. It is causing a lot of issues as the servers switch over, and conflicts with older OS. For example, I can not only use one browser to access iCloud, and it is not Safari. It is the one that gives me the most problems with more other sites.

Brent
MacBook Pro,?15",?early 2008, OS X 10.7.5
iPhone 4S, iOS 9.3.6
iPad 3rd gen, iOS 9.3.5


On Nov 4, 2019, at 1:25 PM, Janet Brunner via Groups.Io wrote:

Brent,
I set up all my Rules within the Mail app, under preferences/rules. ?How do I tell if they¡¯re in the cloud? ?
I¡¯m using an iMac with the latest Catalina updates (see below), and an iPhone 7+ that¡¯s current with the latest updates.

As I mentioned to Paul, Apple is working on it and hopefully will find a cure soon, as this is driving me up the wall.
Janet?
<Screen Shot 2019-11-04 at 3.24.28 PM.jpg>

On Nov 4, 2019, at 3:10 PM, Brent via Groups.Io <whodo678@...> wrote:

Janet, I was going to ask where you had your rules, cut Paul's response made the most sense. I assume you have your Rules in the Cloud and not on a Device. I also assume that all of your Devices are compatible, and not are unsupported.?

I have an unsupported Device because I am using an OLD OS.

Brent


On Nov 4, 2019, at 7:49 AM, Paul wrote:

Hi Janet

Try (on all your devices) turning off the iCloud mail in the appropriate settings for iCloud.?

I suspect it¡¯s the iCloud attempting to synch the rules which is causing the issues.?

. Some imagination required.?

On Nov 4, 2019, at 3:41 AM, Janet Brunner via Groups.Io <janetsbrunner@...> wrote:

?Good morning all,
My mail rules are misbehaving terribly! ?
I keep all my mail in folders, each one with a ¡°rule¡± to direct all email to that folder.
For instance: ?macsupportcentral has it¡¯s own folder, and a rule set up so that if [macsupportcentral] is in the subject line, the mail would instantly go to that folder.

So this morning I got a pop up warning that the macsupportcentral folder didn¡¯t exist, and it couldn¡¯t move the mail to a non-existant folder. ?The pop-up persisted and would not let me do anything other than force quit mail.

I ended up going to mail on my iPhone and deleting the messages from macsupportcentral, and then opening mail on my Mac.

I went into ¡°rules¡± to see what was wrong, and the folder for macsupportcentral was unchecked. ?I checked it - the same thing happened the next time mail came in.

I have about 30 mail rules, and the rest of them work fine, it¡¯s just the mail coming from the 3??I belong to that are causing the problem, so I deleted those rules, quit mail, reopened mail and the same thing happened.

Again, deleted the mail on my phone so I could get into Mail on my Mac.
Opened Rules and the rules that I delete were back, and were unchecked again.
I deleted the rules, closed Mail and re-opened it - same thing - over and over again.

I got mad at this point and decided to delete ALL of my mail rules, thinking there was a glitch somewhere. ?One by one I removed them.
Closed Mail, re-opened Mail and checked - all the rules were there again, but they were all unchecked.

I can¡¯t delete them!!!

Please, someone help me get his straightened out. ?Is there a place on my Mac that stores the mail rules outside of Mail, where perhaps I can permanently delete the rules and start over from scratch?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Janet






Re: Transfer files from Cheese Grater Mac Pro 3.5" internal SATA drives to Windows macine

 

On Nov 5, 2019, at 12:29, Brent via Groups.Io <whodo678@...> wrote:

I don't know how compatible the application files are between Apple and PC for specialized software like architecture
Given your request for brevity from everyone else, my son and I do, and in his case, they are.
?
Jim Robertson


Re: Transfer files from Cheese Grater Mac Pro 3.5" internal SATA drives to Windows macine

 

Or possibly buying a Mac mini for your son's work?

On Nov 4, 2019, at 7:58 AM, Otto Nikolaus via Groups.Io wrote:

On Mon, 4 Nov 2019 at 15:01, jimrobertson via Groups.Io <jimrobertson=[email protected]> wrote:

So (to belabor the obvious), if I get a drive caddy and connect it to my iMac¡¯s USB3 port, I can file share with the Windows box and not need the Paragon software on the PC.

However, if I hook the Caddy up directly to the PC, I WILL need to have the Paragon software installed on the PC.

So, that means do the iMac surgery first, and if the ¡°patient¡± survives we can get by without buying the Paragon software.

Correct. File Sharing makes a computer act like a NAS.?

Windows cannot read HFS+ (or APFS) natively, so you need a third party product such as Paragon. (Macs can read NTFS, the Windows file system, but that's not relevant?here.)

You don't have a working Mac? I thought you had a Mac notebook.?

Otto





Re: Transfer files from Cheese Grater Mac Pro 3.5" internal SATA drives to Windows macine

 

I don't know how compatible the application files are between Apple ?and PC for specialized software like architecture is. That used to be a big issue in the past. I would give that a quick look, before investing a lot of time and money.

Brent


On Nov 4, 2019, at 7:01 AM, jimrobertson via Groups.Io wrote:



On Nov 4, 2019, at 7:43 AM, Otto Nikolaus via Groups.Io <otto.nikolaus@...> wrote:

If you use File Sharing you don't need the Paragon product, regardless of the Mac drive's file system.

So (to belabor the obvious), if I get a drive caddy and connect it to my iMac¡¯s USB3 port, I can file share with the Windows box and not need the Paragon software on the PC.

However, if I hook the Caddy up directly to the PC, I WILL need to have the Paragon software installed on the PC.

So, that means do the iMac surgery first, and if the ¡°patient¡± survives we can get by without buying the Paragon software.

Thanks so much,
Jim Robertson



Re: group directory #Resolved

 

If you have the gun, rope and a stake or wall, I'm sure i can come up with the blindfold, and I will pick up a cheroot on the way over.

So, I can slowly draw out of you one advantage of opting into the Directory, possible access to other's profiles, but again if they post one and if they opt in. But only 12.5 have posted profiles of 281 members. We have a whopping, less than 4.5% that have posted profiles.

Any other benefits to opting into the Directory? Other than helping remote identity theft, which is often done from what we post and share online? Unrealistic fear or not, it is each member's choice.

You want my profile, I have used a Mac consistently since 1998. I borrowed one in 1991 to recruit, manage, schedule and communicate with 1000 volunteers for a 3 day event, that drew over 40k customers. I got a half hour of training, and most of that was how to assemble, turn it on, and which programs to use. I have held several jobs, that depending upon the decade, could have been labeled efficiency expert, customer service, tech support, expeditor or troubleshooter. Basically a remote problem solver. All without visual aids.

I think you doth protest too much. But I do understand that we all learn and communicate differently.

Brent, D.A. (Gawd I haven't used that honorarium in years.)


On Nov 5, 2019, at 8:33 AM, timmeidroth wrote:

gosh!...shoot me at dawn for "pushing" the idea of forming more meaningful connections, which is the advantage to opting in...also, profiles contain information, sometimes very interesting, about a person...for instance, one in the group is a private investigator and has apple creds to boot...one lives on beautiful cape breton island...one is a journalist, now retired...and more than half of the 25 now in the directory include a photo in their profile --- which immediately humanizes them to a degree impossible to attain through text alone...as for the notion that your profile heightens the risk of being spammed, i think that's an unrealistic fear.

On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 5:59 PM Brent via Groups.Io <whodo678=[email protected]> wrote:
I belong to 4 Apple related groups at io. On two, the owners apparently decided not to offer Directory as an option. They have 418 and 227 members. Two have chosen the option of a Directory, and they have 141 and 282 members.?

Only you are pushing for everyone to change their settings, and only 18 of 282 members of this list have chosen to share. I have no idea how many have or have not opted in on the other group, but I bet it is low, since no one has brought it up. The platform owner by default, decided that individuals have to opt in. And so far, I see not advantage to opting in.?

One disadvantage is I think, why make it one iota easier for a spammer? And once capture by a spammer, there is no way to retract it.

I think you are out voted.

Brent


Re: BootCamp on an External Drive?

 

On Nov 5, 2019, at 11:57, Edward Elgar <mac@...> wrote:

I'm hoping to avoid emulation, as I have very limited needs in the Windows world:
If you have very limited Windows needs, you are probably precisely the person who would be happier with emulation than with Boot Camp. You don¡¯t have access to your Macintosh if you are booting into Windows via Boot Camp, and, my experience with VMware¡®s Fusion for Mac was that It was just as zippy running in ambulation as were many of the PCs I¡¯ve used that run Windows natively in enterprise locations (hospital workstations). And, since Windows was running as a program on my Mac, I had access to all of my other Mac applications at the same time.

Hopefully, others will add their own experiences.
Jim Robertson


Re: BootCamp on an External Drive?

Edward Elgar
 

Thanks for the info.
I'm hoping to avoid emulation, as I have very limited needs in the Windows world:
really just a couple of photo programs that I really like, and that have not been updated
to run on even Mojave, much less Catalina. (That's why I'm still on High Sierra.)
E.E.


Re: group directory #Resolved

 

Since you are the main proponent of using the Directory, what are the benefits??



I can only see two, one you can email someone on the list, but not share with the whole group. Two, you can see their image if they added one.

The first defeats one of the purpose of being in a group, to share and learn from each other. And that can be done easily enough without the Directory. The second, is great for those that learn or communicate better with visual clues, other than text. It seems that 9 out of 281 members, might like visual clues, or at least there are only 9 member that have posted images, that are willing to share. That is less than 3.5% of the membership.?

I have even added an image to my profile in my membership with groups dot io, but did not opt to share my Directory listing, so it is only visible to the owners and mods. If I had known at the time that it had the option to become ?become public, I might have not added the image.

So far all I see is "much ado, about nothing.".

Brent


On Nov 5, 2019, at 8:09 AM, timmeidroth wrote:

steady on, mate...this thread is about the directory.?

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 2:15 PM Brent via Groups.Io <whodo678=[email protected]> wrote:

So is the whole thread a tempest in a tea cup? To go along with seeing a persons image in the signature, or not? ?

Brent


?






--
tim's photo:<>



Re: Error message won't go away

Eileen
 

I agree Otto!


I'net Radio app suggestion(s)

 

Hello Group!
Still getting my Group.io legs after decades on yahoo groups....
Anyway,?
I just inherited a Late 2009 iMac to replace mine that died.
One app I constantly used was Radium for I'net radio stations.?
It loads & Lockes up.?
It doesn't look to have been updated since March 2013.
I am looking for suggestions, for a comparable replacement.
TIA
Budd


Re: BootCamp on an External Drive?

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

On Nov 5, 2019, Edward Elgar wrote:
I have a 2013 (Trash Can) Mac Pro, (like Dan's, i believe), running 10.13.6.
I would like to use BootCamp to set up a Windows 10 volume, but BC will ONLY show me the internal SSD.

BootCamp is Apple¡¯s utility to let your Mac boot directly into Windows, without any emulation program (like Parallels or Fusion) in between.
It is crafted specifically to create (and ¡°provision¡±) a partition ONLY on the computer¡¯s internal main booting drive.

I think there's enough space for it there, but I'd much rather partition one of my other drives,?(which are in an OWC Thunderbolt 2 enclosure). Is there any way to get BC to show me "other options"?

No, I don¡¯t think so. However¡­

Or, alternatively, is there a way to format an external drive in NTFS, install a Windows .iso,?and then download the necessary drivers for Mac hardware?

The big difference between BootCamp and emulation is that the former is an *alternate* way to boot your computer (Mac OR Windows, not both), and the emulators let you run Windows in a window while the Mac is up and running normally (*simultaneous*).

I haven¡¯t used those emulation programs for years, myself, but if I recall correctly, they can either be set up to create a virtual hard drive with the alternate OS on it, and boot from that, or to set up an actual drive partition as the alternate OS.

The latter would seem to be what you want.
<>

I can imagine 2 alternatives:

a) emulator software lives on the internal drive, and targets an external volume which has all the Windows stuff

b) you set up BootCamp in a minimal partition on the internal drive, and that minimal Windows installation uses the full-size external volume as a 2nd (¡°D:¡±) drive.

Beyond my suggestions, you would need either to experiment, or to consult someone who is more familiar with the emulator programs.

--?
Jim Saklad
jimdoc@...


Re: Permissions #Security

 

Hi, Dan,
I copied and pasted what you wrote in the command line.
Still tells me I don¡¯t have the necessary permissions.
I entered the Home User Account password.
Thanks.

On Nov 5, 2019, at 6:38 AM, Daniel Settles <denver1.dan1@...> wrote:

Howdy.

Doug, here's a Terminal command to repair permissions.

This is from an article on High Sierra permissions but I think it's the
same in Catalina.

1. Open ¡°Terminal¡°.
2. Type the following command, then press ¡°Enter¡°:

sudo diskutil resetUserPermissions / `id -u`

You will need to type your Home User Account password which will not
appear on the screen.

Tell us what happens.

Denver Dan

On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 06:01:48 -0800, Doug Yelmen wrote:
That is the very first thing I did Dan. And I have done everything
after a ¡°supposed¡± fix.
I went through many fixes, none worked. That¡¯s why I was asking you
guys about
a Terminal fix so I have some control over my own Mac. I¡¯d also like
to reduce the
number of times I have to enter my password for such simple things as
moving a file
to the traxh.

doug

On Nov 4, 2019, at 8:55 PM, Daniel Settles <denver1.dan1@...> wrote:

Howdy.

Doug, do a Get Info on your boot drive icon.

Check the bottom section under Sharing & Permissions. Might need to
click the reveal triangle.

It should look like this Get Info window screen capture.

Does it?
[|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|][|]

iSent from iDan's GyazMail on my MacPro



BootCamp on an External Drive?

Edward Elgar
 

I have a 2013 (Trash Can) Mac Pro, (like Dan's, i believe), running 10.13.6.
I would like to use BootCamp to set up a Windows 10 volume, but BC will ONLY show me the internal SSD.
I think there's enough space for it there, but I'd much rather partition one of my other drives,
(which are in an OWC Thunderbolt 2 enclosure). Is there any way to get BC to show me "other options"?
Or, alternatively, is there a way to format an external drive in NTFS, install a Windows .iso,
and then download the necessary drivers for Mac hardware?
Thanks,
E,E,


Re: group directory #Resolved

 

gosh!...shoot me at dawn for "pushing" the idea of forming more meaningful connections, which is the advantage to opting in...also, profiles contain information, sometimes very interesting, about a person...for instance, one in the group is a private investigator and has apple creds to boot...one lives on beautiful cape breton island...one is a journalist, now retired...and more than half of the 25 now in the directory include a photo in their profile --- which immediately humanizes them to a degree impossible to attain through text alone...as for the notion that your profile heightens the risk of being spammed, i think that's an unrealistic fear.

On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 5:59 PM Brent via Groups.Io <whodo678=[email protected]> wrote:
I belong to 4 Apple related groups at io. On two, the owners apparently decided not to offer Directory as an option. They have 418 and 227 members. Two have chosen the option of a Directory, and they have 141 and 282 members.?

Only you are pushing for everyone to change their settings, and only 18 of 282 members of this list have chosen to share. I have no idea how many have or have not opted in on the other group, but I bet it is low, since no one has brought it up. The platform owner by default, decided that individuals have to opt in. And so far, I see not advantage to opting in.?

One disadvantage is I think, why make it one iota easier for a spammer? And once capture by a spammer, there is no way to retract it.

I think you are out voted.

Brent


On Nov 3, 2019, at 8:53 AM, timmeidroth wrote:

suggestion, folks... change so you can be in the directory.

On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 9:28 AM Otto Nikolaus via Groups.Io <otto.nikolaus=[email protected]> wrote:
Owners & mods can see everyone, but everyone else, even after changing their own privacy settings, can only see others who done the same.
Subscription > Group Profile > Profile Privacy

Otto

On Sun, 3 Nov 2019 at 15:18, Hugh <hcrymble@...> wrote:
I just opted in and can see you now.






--
tim's photo:<>