Re: Oddity in Finder window in Catalina
On Mar 3, 2020, at 12:16 PM, Jim Saklad via Groups.Io < jimdoc@...> wrote:
jim robertson wrote:For some reason, under “Favorites,” I have two iterations of “Macintosh HD”,?both read-only, but both exactly the same size
If I’m going to ask for help, I certainly should ask accurate questions. Sorry, I did not. As my screenshot indicates, the two iterations of "Macintosh HD” are listed as they are on your Mac, under “locations,” as is an icon for “JSR MacBook Pro,” and one for “Network.” (Within Network, in the column view,, there’s only one item, my Apple Time Capsule (which contains a 3 TB rotating platter Time Machine backup drive). If I look at my hardware with Disk Utility, there’s no “JSR MacBook Pro.” Instead there’s Apple SSD AP0512N Media, which contains Container disk1, which in turn contains Macintosh HD and Macintosh HD(data). disk Utility “says” that Container disk1 could be mounted on the desktop, but there’s no icon present for it on the computer by default, and if I hover my pointer over it in Disk Utility, a telltale says it can Mount, but that doesn’t happen if I click the mouse button while the cursor is located there..
The puzzle for me is why my “Macintosh HD” is listed twice, because both are really the same thing. Icon views of each of them show that each “contains” both the system files and user files; column views shows the same “read only” designation for the System, Library, and Users Folders, but within the “Users” folder, my own user is NOT listed as read only. Total available space is the same size for both iterations; I’m unable to get the Finder to calculate size of individual folders in the columnar views of what’s in either of them.
Another Catalina oddity that trying to sort this out has revealed is that each iteration of “Macintosh HD has both?
Macintosh HD\Applications
and
Macintosh HD\System\Applications folders?
(and neither of these is the ~\Applications Folder (which has a few things in it that were put there by a GoToMeeting Installer—not by me, manually).
Although all of the items in Macintosh HD\System\Applications are Apple apps, all of those applications are also listed as present in the Macintosh HD\Applications folder, which contains all my 3rd party applications as well, along with some things from Apple that would be considered productivity applications; e.g., Numbers, Pages, and Keynote.
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Jim Robertson
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Re: Oddity in Finder window in Catalina
jim robertson wrote: For some reason, under “Favorites,” I have two iterations of “Macintosh HD”,?both read-only, but both exactly the same size
In my Finder window, my hard drive partitions are listed only under “Locations”, below all the “Favorites”, and none are duplicates.
Both are marked as “Read Only (lower L corner)” but I assume that this is?because the “Macintosh HD” designation applies to both the Read Only system?and the “separate” volume containing my users, etc.
Firstly, I *do* understand what you refer to with the 2 volumes under Catalina.
Although the drive itself is listed as Read Only, “Users” and its contents, or “Home", are NOT Read Only, if I click on them in Favorites.
Also: The only way I would have ANY of my drive partitions listed under “Favorites” would be if I had dragged one there manually myself Is there anything wrong with having duplicate icons like this? Is there some way?I should try to delete one of them, and how would I know which one to delete.?I’m assuming, actually, that the Mac wouldn’t let me do it, because the portion?of Macintosh HD that contains the System IS read only.
Do you have a “Locations” section? Is your drive in it? Just one, or 2? Personally, I would drag the hard drive icon to locations, if it’s not already there, and remove both of it from favorites. I’m sure that both refer only to the normally-visible volume with most of your “stuff”, and not to the smaller, system-installed-only, volume.
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Re: Thunderbird and other 3rd party email apps... require an app-specific password
On Mar 3, 2020, at 10:42 AM, JR via Groups.Io < Yahoo_jr@...> wrote:
Thunderbird and other 3rd party email apps logging into iCloud accounts requires an APPLICATION-SPECIFIC password that you have to generate on your Apple ID account page…
I’ve never used Thunderbird, but this is the case as well for the BusyMac applications (BusyCal, Busy Contacts). At least for those apps, the publisher is VERY explicit, both in the documentation and in the dialogs that request creation of the App-specific password EXACTLY what this is and why it’s needed. Perhaps the resurrected Thunderbird (maybe its name should now be Phoenix?) is less clear about the reason for the additional password?
Again, I’ve not used Thunderbird, and I’m pleased enough with Mac Mail.app that I have no inclination to try it, so this is nothing more than speculation on my part.
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On Mar 2, 2020, at 4:26 PM, Jim Saklad via Groups.Io < jimdoc@...> wrote:
KarenP wrote: I kept a careful eye on my iPad charge yesterday. Charged it up in the morning?to 100%. That held for a while, but once it started going down, it started going?down quickly. I was not on it for very long. Mostly just playing a few games of?solitaire, checking my email briefly, and my things software. By the time I went?to sleep, it was at 15%. I shut it down completely, as Jim suggested. In the?morning, simply opening it up again brought it to 12%. And from there, I could?actually see it going down one by one, within the space of just a few minutes. ?A?full charge on my iPad used to last me two or even three days. So this is?definitely unusual.
Aging batteries display certain characteristic behaviors, notably: 1. Their total capacity declines steadily. Yours might have 70% of its original capacity, or 50%, or less. So “100%” may be half as many milliamp-hours as when it was new.
2. They are less able to *retain* what charge they can hold.
The definitive solution is replace the battery, or replace the device.
Apple will sell you a refurbished current-model iPad Mini for $339, eligible for Applecare. On the other hand, you can get a refurbished?current-model iPad for about the same price. Amazon will sell you “renewed” older models for much less.
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Thunderbird and other 3rd party email apps... require an app-specific password
From: Bob Beckham <mailto:rbeckhm@...?subject=Re:%20New%20Web%20Site%21>
I did try Thunderbird, but it couldn’t log into the iCloud account. Says my password is wrong. I’m assuming the mail password is the same as the Apple ID password. Correct?
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Hi Bob, et al...
FYI your password is otherwise good, HOWEVER Thunderbird and other 3rd party email apps logging into iCloud accounts requires an APPLICATION-SPECIFIC password that you have to generate on your Apple ID account page...
See here:
Write it down and keep it in your password app...
This is not a Thunderbird issue, it's Apple's security measure....
How to generate an app-specific password
1. Sign in to your Apple ID account page <>.
2. In the Security section, click Generate Password below App-Specific Passwords.
3. Follow the steps on your screen.
After you generate your app-specific password, enter or paste it into the password field of the app as you would normally.
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Then once you have that, you need to configure Thunderbird with it.
I have this under my account setups:
IMAP information for the incoming mail server
??? Server name: imap.mail.me.com
??? SSL Required: Yes
??? If you see an error message when using SSL, try using TLS instead.
??? Port: 993
??? Username: This is usually the name part of your iCloud email address (for example, emilyparker, not emilyparker@...). If your email client can't connect to iCloud using just the name part of your iCloud email address, try using the full address.
??? Password: *App-specific password:?? xxxx-xxxx-xxx-xxxx*
SMTP information for the outgoing mail server
??? Server name: smtp.mail.me.com
??? SSL Required: Yes
??? If you see an error message when using SSL, try using TLS or STARTTLS instead.
??? Port: 587
??? SMTP Authentication Required: Yes
??? Username: Your full iCloud email address (for example, emilyparker@..., not emilyparker)
??? Password: *App-specific password:?? xxxx-xxxx-xxx-xxxx*
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*JR
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I do use a password manager, and quite frequently, passwords for various Apple services tell me they are now wrong, and I have to arduously reset them. ?I don’t get it. I thought Apple ID was supposed to unify all your passwords for Apple services, including iCloud. ?Not true? ?This time, I’m really having a hard time fixing it. And of course, whenever I have managed to change the Apple ID, I’ve had to re-enter it on all devices. ?It’s a pain. ?Probably something I’m doing wrong, but too frequently have to go through this reset routine.
I’ve had the same experiences. Part of it was that, years ago, i used a different email address for Apple (back when the iTunes Store was new. So, some of my original Apple Music purchases (after the Napster guy took the plunge) were made with a totally different “identity,” and I’ve never gotten that straightened out!
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Jim Robertson
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On Mar 2, 2020, at 8:01 PM, Bill Castine <Bill.Castine@...> wrote:
Most likely not. At least my icloud mail password is not related to my Apple ID password.
If you use a password manager, look up your icloud Mail account password. Otherwise, you may have to log on in another app (such as Mail) and try to change your password. I do use a password manager, and quite frequently, passwords for various Apple services tell me they are now wrong, and I have to arduously reset them. I don’t get it. I thought Apple ID was supposed to unify all your passwords for Apple services, including iCloud. Not true? This time, I’m really having a hard time fixing it. And of course, whenever I have managed to change the Apple ID, I’ve had to re-enter it on all devices. It’s a pain. Probably something I’m doing wrong, but too frequently have to go through this reset routine. Daly
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Oddity in Finder window in Catalina
For some reason, under “Favorites,” I have two iterations of “Macintosh HD”, both read-only, but both exactly the same size: Both are marked as “Read Only (lower L corner)” but I assume that this is because the “Macintosh HD” designation applies to both the Read Only system and the “separate” volume containing my users, etc.
Is there anything wrong with having duplicate icons like this? Is there some way I should try to delete one of them, and how would I know which one to delete. I’m assuming, actually, that the Mac wouldn’t let me do it, because the portion of Macintosh HD that contains the System IS read only.
Seems to me Apple hasn’t really figured out an easily understandable way to describe the immutable and changeable portions of the boot volume in the Finder UI in Catalina.
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On Mar 2, 2020, at 5:32 PM, Bob Beckham via Groups.Io < rbeckhm@...> wrote:
I’m assuming the mail password is the same as the Apple ID password. ?Correct?
It usually is, but if you’ve had an Apple email account as far back as the domain name before there WAS iCloud, it’s entirely possible you set up a Mail.app Apple server account with a password that was not an Apple ID. So, you might try combing through your password manager to see if there are other passwords for mail that also are old, and also look in Apple’s own automatically generated password repository (in a “Keychain” folder (I’m not sure of the path to that folder in Catalina). And, it’s possible for one person to have more than one Apple ID.
To make certain it’s not an issue with Thunderbird rather than your Apple ID, you might try logging in to your Apple mail on the web, using what you have listed for your username/pw in Apple Mail.app.
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Jim Robertson
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Thanks!
I signed up for Apple Mail when I got my first iPhone many years ago. Can’t remember the PW I used. I just never needed to know it when moving from the various phones, iPads and now this iMac. I just entered my Apple ID pw and everything just seemed to work.
Yes, changing the pw usually requires knowing what the present one is . . . I’ll give that a try.
Thx again!
Bob Beckham
FCC Radiotelephone w/Radar P1-6S-2422
Late 2012 iMac 27” - 16 Gig RAM - 1TB SSD - macOS 10.15.3
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On Mar 2, 2020, at 8:01 PM, Bill Castine <Bill.Castine@...> wrote:
Most likely not. At least my icloud mail password is not related to my Apple ID password.
If you use a password manager, look up your icloud Mail account password. Otherwise, you may have to log on in another app (such as Mail) and try to change your password.
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Most likely not. At least my icloud mail password is not related to my Apple ID password.
If you use a password manager, look up your icloud Mail account password. Otherwise, you may have to log on in another app (such as Mail) and try to change your password.
Bill
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On Mar 2, 2020, at 7:32 PM, Bob Beckham via Groups.Io <rbeckhm@...> wrote:
Hi Folks!
I did try Thunderbird, but it couldn’t log into the iCloud account. Says my password is wrong. I’m assuming the mail password is the same as the Apple ID password. Correct?
Bob Beckham
FCC Radiotelephone w/Radar P1-6S-2422
Late 2012 iMac 27” - 16 Gig RAM - 1TB SSD - macOS 10.15.3
2019 Harley Ultra Limited 114
1993 Allen MDS Theater 2
On Mar 1, 2020, at 7:42 PM, Randy B. Singer <randy@...> wrote:
I just put up a new Web site. Apple's Mail under Catalina has a nasty bug that causes it to lose data. Some users have been looking for an alternative. I created a page listing all of the available Macintosh e-mail programs!
Macintosh Email Software
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Hi Folks!
I did try Thunderbird, but it couldn’t log into the iCloud account. Says my password is wrong. I’m assuming the mail password is the same as the Apple ID password. Correct?
Bob Beckham
FCC Radiotelephone w/Radar P1-6S-2422
Late 2012 iMac 27” - 16 Gig RAM - 1TB SSD - macOS 10.15.3
2019 Harley Ultra Limited 114
1993 Allen MDS Theater 2
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On Mar 1, 2020, at 7:42 PM, Randy B. Singer <randy@...> wrote:
I just put up a new Web site. Apple's Mail under Catalina has a nasty bug that causes it to lose data. Some users have been looking for an alternative. I created a page listing all of the available Macintosh e-mail programs!
Macintosh Email Software
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Re: Black "dot" on iPhone 11 Pro iOS 13.3.1: what IS it?
On Mar 2, 2020, at 1:23 PM, Barry Austern via Groups.Io < barryaus@...> wrote:
Still true. I have it on my Xr as it makes it far more simple to do a screen capture.
Thanks, all, for the very helpful and informative responses.
I’ll read the Apple description of the feature in detail. I’m amazed that the interface for taking a screenshot and power cycling the device are so close to the interface for summoning first responders.
The other day, it had been above freezing for enough consecutive days that the snow had largely melted off my favorite NW Montana paved bike path. We’ve not purchased a home yet, so when I get to new housing areas I typically wander up and down those streets and did so that day. At a house that was roofed and framed, I decided to check out the floor plan so tried to ride my skinny-tired road bike up the driveway and fell off. My dignity and my knee both suffered a bit, but I still just propped the bike against the garage wall and wandered around inside.
When I got back to the bike, I discovered that my bike computer had offered to tell my iPhone to call 911. Fall detection on the iPhone itself had not been triggered however.
And, as for the Touch Assist, the support article makes it sound like I’d triggered it somehow, but certainly not by navigation through the settings menu. The other puzzle is that the cursor looked NOTHING like the Touch Assist cursor that one deploys on purpose. Mine was only a few pixels in diameter (large enough to look like a tiny black circle with one or two extra pixels at 10 and 2 clock positions (enough to give it that “mouse ears” look. However, the way it tracked my overlying finger suggests I had triggered it somehow.
Weird!
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Re: Black "dot" on iPhone 11 Pro iOS 13.3.1: what IS it?
iPhones with a Home Button have had an option to put a movable Home?
Button on the screen. ?If that is still an option, maybe that's what?
got triggered on. ? No idea if it could have been.?
This feature was turned on somewhere in Settings but I just check on my?
iPhone X (side button) and couldn't find that feature. ?
Someplace under “Assistive Touch”…
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KarenP wrote: I kept a careful eye on my iPad charge yesterday. Charged it up in the morning?to 100%. That held for a while, but once it started going down, it started going?down quickly. I was not on it for very long. Mostly just playing a few games of?solitaire, checking my email briefly, and my things software. By the time I went?to sleep, it was at 15%. I shut it down completely, as Jim suggested. In the?morning, simply opening it up again brought it to 12%. And from there, I could?actually see it going down one by one, within the space of just a few minutes. ?A?full charge on my iPad used to last me two or even three days. So this is?definitely unusual.
Aging batteries display certain characteristic behaviors, notably: 1. Their total capacity declines steadily. Yours might have 70% of its original capacity, or 50%, or less. So “100%” may be half as many milliamp-hours as when it was new.
2. They are less able to *retain* what charge they can hold.
The definitive solution is replace the battery, or replace the device.
Apple will sell you a refurbished current-model iPad Mini for $339, eligible for Applecare. On the other hand, you can get a refurbished?current-model iPad for about the same price. Amazon will sell you “renewed” older models for much less.
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Re: Magic Trackpad 2 losing connection
On Mar 2, 2020, at 3:13 PM, Joe Masters < joe@...> wrote:
I recently purchased a Magic Trackpad 2 to go with my Mac Mini 2018 running 10.15.3. Even when fully charged I have to keep it within 12 inches of the Mini or else it loses connection. My previous Trackpad worked fine up to a few feet away. I like the bigger area of the Trackpad 2 but it is driving me mad. Should it work further than one foot away?
I suspect it is defective, probably a bad BlueTooth antenna in it. Take it back and complain.
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Re: Black "dot" on iPhone 11 Pro iOS 13.3.1: what IS it?
Howdy.
Jim, I'm not sure this is a solution to the black dot. ?
iPhones with a Home Button have had an option to put a movable Home
Button on the screen. ?If that is still an option, maybe that's what
got triggered on. ??No idea if it could have been.
Still true. I have it on my Xr as it makes it far more simple to do a screen capture. The official way requires something like 8 hands pushing 17 different buttons, almost. Accessibility>Touch>Assistive Touch will put the button on your screen. One of the choices then is a screen shot.
This feature was turned on somewhere in Settings but I just check on my
iPhone X (side button) and couldn't find that feature. ?
Denver Dan
On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 07:40:23 -0700, jimrobertson via Groups.Io wrote: I awoke this morning before sunrise (iPhone therefore still in Dark
Mode), but because my home screen photograph contains lots of light
colored elements, I noticed a black “dot” (not perfectly round—
there were two little appendages in the locations where "Mickey Mouse
” ears would be if it were an emoji). It was a bit larger than the
little dots that show which of the app icon screens is foreground.
If i moved the screen, the little dot did not move, unless I placed
my finger on it, in which case it WOULD move directly beneath my
fingertip; if those movements were horizontal, the screen would move
in the direction I was swiping; if my movements were vertical, the
screen would NOT move (but the dot did, beneath my fingertip).
Tapping the dot itself did nothing, unless the ?dot was situated over
an interface element which normally would respond to a tap.
After a minute or so, the dot began moving spontaneously down the
screen at a slow but constant rate (perhaps 5 seconds to reach almost
the bottom, where it stopped). Placing my fingertip on it again, I
was able to reposition it. So long as I didn’t swipe SO far
horizontally as to bring up the previous or next icon page, the page
would recenter when I lifted my finger from the screen.
I had many apps open; I thought perhaps it was associated with one of
them, but running in dark mode.it might be impossible to tell, so I
terminated all running apps one by one, noticing that it was a tiny
bit different shade of black that the background screen of each of
these apps, and it remained on screen after I’d terminated them all.
I took a screenshot, but the dot wasn’t captured in a screenshot of
my home screen, so I opened my photos app, saw that the dot was still
visible, so did another screen capture with a predominantly light
colored photo, but it wasn’t captured on a screenshot of a photo,
either. I selected another photo to capture, centered the dot on that
photo, and then the little bug(ger) disappeared. It was still too
early for dark mode to have auto converted to light mode. I cannot be
certain that I didn’t cause the disappearance somehow by preparing
to take the screenshot.
Has anyone else seen this? If so, WHAT WAS IT?
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Re: Mail: advanced search
Hi Karen,
I concur with your decision to use InfoClick.
Its a wonderful resource I use daily. One recommendation - add it to the Applications that Auto launch upon startup. System Preferences> Users & Groups> Your account> Login Items, click the plus sign, choose InfoClick.
That way when Mail opens it can immediately start updating the database as new messages arrive.
Paul
MacTech Services -- ?Supporting the Greater Los Angeles? Macintosh?Community since 1988. ? ? ? ? ? ?626-449-5529
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Thanks for those tips. I’m going to try the InfoClick app that Jim suggested, but these are good to have handy as well.
?? Karen ? ?organizing my iMac to the Nines999
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Re: Black "dot" on iPhone 11 Pro iOS 13.3.1: what IS it?
And here is an Apple discussion about the feature:
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Howdy.Jim, I'm not sure this is a solution to the black dot. ?iPhones with a Home Button have had an option to put a movable Home?Button on the screen. ?If that is still an option, maybe that's what?got triggered on. ??No idea if it could have been.?This feature was turned on somewhere in Settings but I just check on my?iPhone X (side button) and couldn't find that feature. ?Denver Dan?On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 07:40:23 -0700, jimrobertson via Groups.Io wrote:I awoke this morning before sunrise (iPhone therefore still in Dark?
Mode), but because my home screen photograph contains lots of light?
colored elements, I noticed a black “dot” (not perfectly round―
there were two little appendages in the locations where "Mickey Mouse
” ears would be if it were an emoji). It was a bit larger than the?
little dots that show which of the app icon screens is foreground.
If i moved the screen, the little dot did not move, unless I placed?
my finger on it, in which case it WOULD move directly beneath my?
fingertip; if those movements were horizontal, the screen would move?
in the direction I was swiping; if my movements were vertical, the?
screen would NOT move (but the dot did, beneath my fingertip).?
Tapping the dot itself did nothing, unless the ?dot was situated over?
an interface element which normally would respond to a tap.
After a minute or so, the dot began moving spontaneously down the?
screen at a slow but constant rate (perhaps 5 seconds to reach almost?
the bottom, where it stopped). Placing my fingertip on it again, I?
was able to reposition it. So long as I didn’t swipe SO far?
horizontally as to bring up the previous or next icon page, the page?
would recenter when I lifted my finger from the screen.
I had many apps open; I thought perhaps it was associated with one of?
them, but running in dark mode.it might be impossible to tell, so I?
terminated all running apps one by one, noticing that it was a tiny?
bit different shade of black that the background screen of each of?
these apps, and it remained on screen after I’d terminated them all.
I took a screenshot, but the dot wasn’t captured in a screenshot of?
my home screen, so I opened my photos app, saw that the dot was still?
visible, so did another screen capture with a predominantly light?
colored photo, but it wasn’t captured on a screenshot of a photo,?
either. I selected another photo to capture, centered the dot on that?
photo, and then the little bug(ger) disappeared. It was still too?
early for dark mode to have auto converted to light mode. I cannot be?
certain that I didn’t cause the disappearance somehow by preparing?
to take the screenshot.
Has anyone else seen this? If so, WHAT WAS IT?
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Jim Robertson
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Magic Trackpad 2 losing connection
I recently purchased a Magic Trackpad 2 to go with my Mac Mini 2018 running 10.15.3. Even when fully charged I have to keep it within 12 inches of the Mini or else it loses connection. My previous Trackpad worked fine up to a few feet away. I like the bigger area of the Trackpad 2 but it is driving me mad. Should it work further than one foot away?
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Joe Masters
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Bill Castine
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