Re: Possible hacked computer? Hard to tell if the notice is real or is the hack itself
On Nov 30, 2023, at 4:04 AM, J_Catlady <JanetOliviaCatlady@...> wrote:
Thanks for the valuable info, Randy. I've had Sophos for so long that I have an automatic disincentive to switching. But I'll certainly think about it now. Do you know what would happen if I installed VirusBarrier now, on top of Sophos? Would there be some sort of conflict? I¡¯m sure that it wouldn¡¯t, because Virus Barrier doesn¡¯t install anything deep in your System, so there would be nothing to cause a conflict. But the point is that Sophos is like a time bomb on your system and shouldn¡¯t be there for any reason. I think of Sophos as being WORSE than having malware. You can¡¯t uninstall Sophos by simply dragging its icon to the trash. Here are the instructions for uninstalling it: __________________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice __________________________________________________
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Re: Possible hacked computer? Hard to tell if the notice is real or is the hack itself
Thanks for the valuable info, Randy. I've had Sophos for so long that I have an automatic disincentive to switching. But I'll certainly think about it now. Do you know what would happen if I installed VirusBarrier now, on top of Sophos? Would there be some sort of conflict?
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On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 8:59?PM Randy B. Singer < randy@...> wrote:
> On Nov 29, 2023, at 11:50 AM, J_Catlady <JanetOliviaCatlady@...> wrote:
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> Thanks for the idea and the link! I have the *paid* version of Sophos and so far (5+ years?) have trusted it. But I¡¯d be very curious to see if the free malware bytes can find something that Sophos didn¡¯t.
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> I¡¯m a little afraid to get on their spam mailing list, though¡.will think about it!
Personally, I try my best to ward people away from BOTH Sophos, and Malwarebytes.
I try to keep people away from Sophos because I hear from an inordinate number of folks who, after we have done some troubleshooting, we find that their slowdowns were being caused by Sophos.? It¡¯s not all Sophos users, but it¡¯s a shocking number of them.? There are better anti-virus programs.? The one that I recommend wins all of the believable comparison tests, and is FREE:
VirusBarrier Free Edition (free)
I recommend that folks stay away from Malwarebytes for a list of reasons.? They have had dishonest advertising, their free product includes adware, and the products install a very alarmingly large number of files deep into your System.
Malwarebytes often DOES sometimes find things that traditional AV products don¡¯t, because traditional AV products tend to be weak with respect to adware.? However, fortunately there is an almost identical product to Malwarebytes that comes from a company that it is much easier to trust:
DetectX (free)
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Randy B. Singer
Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions)
Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice
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On Nov 29, 2023, at 8:44 AM, Tony M via groups.io <nyrngrz@...> wrote:
Another device on the network is using your computer¡¯s IP address How to fix your network when you see ¡®Another device is using your IP address¡¯ on a Mac __________________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice __________________________________________________
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Re: Possible hacked computer? Hard to tell if the notice is real or is the hack itself
On Nov 29, 2023, at 11:50 AM, J_Catlady <JanetOliviaCatlady@...> wrote:
Thanks for the idea and the link! I have the *paid* version of Sophos and so far (5+ years?) have trusted it. But I¡¯d be very curious to see if the free malware bytes can find something that Sophos didn¡¯t.
I¡¯m a little afraid to get on their spam mailing list, though¡.will think about it! Personally, I try my best to ward people away from BOTH Sophos, and Malwarebytes. I try to keep people away from Sophos because I hear from an inordinate number of folks who, after we have done some troubleshooting, we find that their slowdowns were being caused by Sophos. It¡¯s not all Sophos users, but it¡¯s a shocking number of them. There are better anti-virus programs. The one that I recommend wins all of the believable comparison tests, and is FREE: VirusBarrier Free Edition (free) I recommend that folks stay away from Malwarebytes for a list of reasons. They have had dishonest advertising, their free product includes adware, and the products install a very alarmingly large number of files deep into your System. Malwarebytes often DOES sometimes find things that traditional AV products don¡¯t, because traditional AV products tend to be weak with respect to adware. However, fortunately there is an almost identical product to Malwarebytes that comes from a company that it is much easier to trust: DetectX (free) __________________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Essential But Hard To Find Macintosh Software and Advice __________________________________________________
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Re: Possible hacked computer? Hard to tell if the notice is real or is the hack itself
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On Nov 29, 2023, at 8:41?PM, Christopher Collins via groups.io <maclist@...> wrote:
? You should always force an update before you start doing a specific scan.
You seem to be taking a lot on trust.
cjc On 30 Nov 2023, at 12:44 pm, J_Catlady <JanetOliviaCatlady@...> wrote:
I think it updates automatically. I've never purposely updated it. On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 5:37?PM Christopher Collins via ??<maclist= [email protected]> wrote: Did you update Sophia before you ran the scan??
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This morning I received a suspicious-looking email purporting to be regarding my paypal account. I normally immediately remove those, but I'd been on paypal recently and I thought as long as I didn't click on anything in the email, it would be safe to simply open it. The minute I opened it, something looked like it started to download. I closed it as soon as I could and deleted it. I then started a quick Sophos scan, which didn't find anything.?
About one hour later, I was working on my google account settings (I wanted to remove the auto-reply suggestions for emails). Suddenly a huge warning thing came up on the screen, purporting to be from "Apple Defender." I closed it out as soon as possible so I don't remember the details, but there were multiple levels of screens, screens within screens, with big, red, warnings, including "Do not use or reboot your computer" and stuff about how it had been hacked (I don't remember the exact words). I really had no idea what to do about it besides just close the window. I then started a full (rather than basic) Sophos scan, which is still running.
I'm on a Macbook Pro running Sonoma 14.1.1 but not sure that's relevant. I'm about to see what I can find out about "Apple Defender" but meanwhile thought I'd ask here.?
Thanks for any info. --? Janet
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Re: Possible hacked computer? Hard to tell if the notice is real or is the hack itself
You should always force an update before you start doing a specific scan.
You seem to be taking a lot on trust.
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On 30 Nov 2023, at 12:44 pm, J_Catlady <JanetOliviaCatlady@...> wrote:
I think it updates automatically. I've never purposely updated it. On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 5:37?PM Christopher Collins via ??<maclist= [email protected]> wrote: Did you update Sophia before you ran the scan??
cjc
This morning I received a suspicious-looking email purporting to be regarding my paypal account. I normally immediately remove those, but I'd been on paypal recently and I thought as long as I didn't click on anything in the email, it would be safe to simply open it. The minute I opened it, something looked like it started to download. I closed it as soon as I could and deleted it. I then started a quick Sophos scan, which didn't find anything.?
About one hour later, I was working on my google account settings (I wanted to remove the auto-reply suggestions for emails). Suddenly a huge warning thing came up on the screen, purporting to be from "Apple Defender." I closed it out as soon as possible so I don't remember the details, but there were multiple levels of screens, screens within screens, with big, red, warnings, including "Do not use or reboot your computer" and stuff about how it had been hacked (I don't remember the exact words). I really had no idea what to do about it besides just close the window. I then started a full (rather than basic) Sophos scan, which is still running.
I'm on a Macbook Pro running Sonoma 14.1.1 but not sure that's relevant. I'm about to see what I can find out about "Apple Defender" but meanwhile thought I'd ask here.?
Thanks for any info. --? Janet
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Re: Possible hacked computer? Hard to tell if the notice is real or is the hack itself
I think it updates automatically. I've never purposely updated it. On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 5:37?PM Christopher Collins via <maclist= [email protected]> wrote:
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Did you update Sophia before you ran the scan??
cjc
This morning I received a suspicious-looking email purporting to be regarding my paypal account. I normally immediately remove those, but I'd been on paypal recently and I thought as long as I didn't click on anything in the email, it would be safe to simply open it. The minute I opened it, something looked like it started to download. I closed it as soon as I could and deleted it. I then started a quick Sophos scan, which didn't find anything.
About one hour later, I was working on my google account settings (I wanted to remove the auto-reply suggestions for emails). Suddenly a huge warning thing came up on the screen, purporting to be from "Apple Defender." I closed it out as soon as possible so I don't remember the details, but there were multiple levels of screens, screens within screens, with big, red, warnings, including "Do not use or reboot your computer" and stuff about how it had been hacked (I don't remember the exact words). I really had no idea what to do about it besides just close the window. I then started a full (rather than basic) Sophos scan, which is still running.
I'm on a Macbook Pro running Sonoma 14.1.1 but not sure that's relevant. I'm about to see what I can find out about "Apple Defender" but meanwhile thought I'd ask here.
Thanks for any info. -- Janet
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Re: Possible hacked computer? Hard to tell if the notice is real or is the hack itself
Did you update Sophia before you ran the scan??
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On 30 Nov 2023, at 5:06 am, J_Catlady <JanetOliviaCatlady@...> wrote:
This morning I received a suspicious-looking email purporting to be regarding my paypal account. I normally immediately remove those, but I'd been on paypal recently and I thought as long as I didn't click on anything in the email, it would be safe to simply open it. The minute I opened it, something looked like it started to download. I closed it as soon as I could and deleted it. I then started a quick Sophos scan, which didn't find anything.
About one hour later, I was working on my google account settings (I wanted to remove the auto-reply suggestions for emails). Suddenly a huge warning thing came up on the screen, purporting to be from "Apple Defender." I closed it out as soon as possible so I don't remember the details, but there were multiple levels of screens, screens within screens, with big, red, warnings, including "Do not use or reboot your computer" and stuff about how it had been hacked (I don't remember the exact words). I really had no idea what to do about it besides just close the window. I then started a full (rather than basic) Sophos scan, which is still running.
I'm on a Macbook Pro running Sonoma 14.1.1 but not sure that's relevant. I'm about to see what I can find out about "Apple Defender" but meanwhile thought I'd ask here.
Thanks for any info. -- Janet
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Re: Possible hacked computer? Hard to tell if the notice is real or is the hack itself
On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 02:41 PM, Brent wrote:
The Apple OS that you won¡¯t tell me about
I told you my OS twice LOL. And yes, I was guessing that it prevented the download and that's why Sophos didn't find it. Said all of that a couple of times. Thanks for your help. ? -- Janet
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Re: Possible hacked computer? Hard to tell if the notice is real or is the hack itself
On Nov 29, 2023, at 13:20, J_Catlady <JanetOliviaCatlady@...> wrote:
About an hour later the warning popped up, which looked like it had something to do with Apple ("Apple Defender"). I surmised that possibly the email downloaded malware (because I didn't stop the download in time) and the Apple protection software you constantly speak of later detected it.
As I said, I'm on a Macbook Pro running Sonoma 14.1.1.
As for the content of the email and what they wanted, I did not even get a glimpse of the content. When I saw the download start I'd seen enough and I dumped it. A human cannot react fast enough to beat a computer. It was probably not a download, but phoning home, found another victim. There is no Apple Defense or Defender. It sounds like the push notification I have sent information on. Read the article and follow its instructions. Sonora has the strongest viral protection, yet. Brent On my iPhone Xr
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Re: Possible hacked computer? Hard to tell if the notice is real or is the hack itself
The Apple OS that you won¡¯t tell me about, most likely prevented a download. So you won¡¯t find it, like I assume Sophos told you. You can't find something that is not there
Like I said, there are 3 kinds of threats.?
Viral, dig thru the recent archives for Randy Singer¡¯s comments on third party AV apps, especially Sophos.?
Adware, usually from untrustworthy sites, but previously know trustworthy sites are getting infected. They do no damage, they just annoy.?
And the latest new threat, push notifications thru browsers. Read the following to combat this:
How to Identify and Eliminate Abusive Web Notifications
If anything you got hit with the last threat. It currently is mostly used to promote AV products, surprisingly, real and fraudulent. McAffe most notably.?
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On Nov 29, 2023, at 12:52, J_Catlady <JanetOliviaCatlady@...> wrote:
? It was not necessarily an email but that¡¯s what I concluded. In any event, if it was the email, it seems to have downloaded something - maybe I didn¡¯t stop the download in time. The warning appeared about an hour after I opened the email. So how do I now detect and get rid of whatever was downloaded?Yes. It was a mistake to open the email. I haven¡¯t done that in years, normally very suspicious. On Nov 29, 2023, at 12:47?PM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:
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On Nov 29, 2023, at 10:06, J_Catlady <JanetOliviaCatlady@...> wrote:
This morning I received a suspicious-looking email purporting to be¡
It came in an email, so no very urgent, but the message was urgent. Fake!
It was not an ad, but an email. Fake!
There is a new threat that neither anti-viral and adware cannot detect. It is push notifications through a browser. The way to deal with that is to turn off push notifications is browser prefs, settings and extensions.
But this was an email not a push notification. So, delete the email and forget it.
The worst that you did was to possibly verify that your e-dress is active.
Don¡¯t open suspected spam emails. Just delete them. If you really think it might be real from known source, contact the source independently, without opening it. Like by phone. Otherwise delete it. ?
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Re: Possible hacked computer? Hard to tell if the notice is real or is the hack itself
Sorry for the perceived lack of clarity.
As I attempted to explain, 1.? I opened a suspicious email.? It started to download something. I immediately closed and dumped the email, presumably (hopefully at that time) before the download concluded. 2. About an hour later the warning popped up, which looked like it had something to do with Apple ("Apple Defender"). I surmised that possibly the email downloaded malware (because I didn't stop the download in time) and the Apple protection software you constantly speak of later detected it.
As I said, I'm on a Macbook Pro running Sonoma? 14.1.1.
As for the content of the email and what they wanted, I did not even get a glimpse of the content. When I saw the download start I'd seen enough and I dumped it.
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Re: Possible hacked computer? Hard to tell if the notice is real or is the hack itself
On Nov 29, 2023, at 12:34, J_Catlady <JanetOliviaCatlady@...> wrote:
ps of course no remote scanning. But I think the notice is made to look like it¡¯s coming from the built-in Apple protection you frequently talk about. Right in your first paragraph, you said it was a suspicious email, so how could it look like a warning from Apple? Yes, they tried to use social engineering, poorly. But your first question as you are looking at it is why are they sending this to me, followed by what do they want from me?
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Where does Apple recommend any AV or Adware app??
It was not an ad. It was email. Malwarebytes deals with adware.?
What device and what OS was this on, so I ?can get an idea of the built-in AV you have.?
Btw, my early 2008 MBP, running 10.7.5 has never had a virus, and it has no added AV app. In over 20 years, the only virus I have had, was a MS Word macro virus, on a Classic Macintosh, running System 7. It was part of a Word doc, I downloaded. I deleted the doc to remove the virus.?
The only time I ran an AV app, was when work required that I have an AV app for anything I imported to their Windows based system. I don¡¯t know that an app for a Mac would detect a virus for a Windows network. ?
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On Nov 29, 2023, at 12:32, J_Catlady <JanetOliviaCatlady@...> wrote:
? Right, Brent, you mentioned that before about not needing anything extra. But David says Apple recommends malware bytes (?) and also, what caused the fake notice and how do I prevent it (and things like it) in future if its not considered a threat? Or are you possibly saying the built-in apple protection quickly got rid of it before my Sophos scan could even find it? On Nov 29, 2023, at 12:17?PM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:
? Your computer cannot be scanned for viruses remotely, and definitely without you authorizing it.?
So basically it is never real, if you haven¡¯t installed an AV app. Modern Apple OSes don¡¯t need third party AV apps, as they are built into the OS. ? On Nov 29, 2023, at 10:06, J_Catlady <JanetOliviaCatlady@...> wrote:
? This morning I received a suspicious-looking email purporting to be regarding my paypal account. I normally immediately remove those, but I'd been on paypal recently and I thought as long as I didn't click on anything in the email, it would be safe to simply open it. The minute I opened it, something looked like it started to download. I closed it as soon as I could and deleted it. I then started a quick Sophos scan, which didn't find anything.
About one hour later, I was working on my google account settings (I wanted to remove the auto-reply suggestions for emails). Suddenly a huge warning thing came up on the screen, purporting to be from "Apple Defender." I closed it out as soon as possible so I don't remember the details, but there were multiple levels of screens, screens within screens, with big, red, warnings, including "Do not use or reboot your computer" and stuff about how it had been hacked (I don't remember the exact words). I really had no idea what to do about it besides just close the window. I then started a full (rather than basic) Sophos scan, which is still running.
I'm on a Macbook Pro running Sonoma 14.1.1 but not sure that's relevant. I'm about to see what I can find out about "Apple Defender" but meanwhile thought I'd ask here.
Thanks for any info. -- Janet
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Re: Possible hacked computer? Hard to tell if the notice is real or is the hack itself
It was not necessarily an email but that¡¯s what I concluded. In any event, if it was the email, it seems to have downloaded something - maybe I didn¡¯t stop the download in time. The warning appeared about an hour after I opened the email. So how do I now detect and get rid of whatever was downloaded?
Yes. It was a mistake to open the email. I haven¡¯t done that in years, normally very suspicious.
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On Nov 29, 2023, at 12:47?PM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:
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On Nov 29, 2023, at 10:06, J_Catlady <JanetOliviaCatlady@...> wrote:
This morning I received a suspicious-looking email purporting to be¡ It came in an email, so no very urgent, but the message was urgent. Fake!
It was not an ad, but an email. Fake!
There is a new threat that neither anti-viral and adware cannot detect. It is push notifications through a browser. The way to deal with that is to turn off push notifications is browser prefs, settings and extensions.
But this was an email not a push notification. So, delete the email and forget it.
The worst that you did was to possibly verify that your e-dress is active.
Don¡¯t open suspected spam emails. Just delete them. If you really think it might be real from known source, contact the source independently, without opening it. Like by phone. Otherwise delete it.
-- Janet
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Re: Possible hacked computer? Hard to tell if the notice is real or is the hack itself
On Nov 29, 2023, at 10:06, J_Catlady <JanetOliviaCatlady@...> wrote:
This morning I received a suspicious-looking email purporting to be¡ It came in an email, so no very urgent, but the message was urgent. Fake! It was not an ad, but an email. Fake! There is a new threat that neither anti-viral and adware cannot detect. It is push notifications through a browser. The way to deal with that is to turn off push notifications is browser prefs, settings and extensions. But this was an email not a push notification. So, delete the email and forget it. The worst that you did was to possibly verify that your e-dress is active. Don¡¯t open suspected spam emails. Just delete them. If you really think it might be real from known source, contact the source independently, without opening it. Like by phone. Otherwise delete it.
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You are most welcome! ?
One WANTS a negative result - I was simply showing what you should get as a result if you have no infection(s).
D.
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On 29 Nov 2023, at 20:29, J_Catlady <JanetOliviaCatlady@...> wrote:
In that case there¡¯s no significance to your negative result. ?? But thanks for all the info!
On Nov 29, 2023, at 12:08?PM, David G Brooks via groups.io <davidandtrishab@...> wrote:
?Hi Janet
I found the detail about the fake warning on-line. I have never had it myself. I posted it for your information.
Malwarebytes has been in my toolbox, as it were, since its inception - 2008 IIRC.
Apple Support recommends the use of Malwarebytes.
It¡¯s your call now!
David.
On 29 Nov 2023, at 19:59, J_Catlady <JanetOliviaCatlady@...> wrote:
But did you also get the fake warning? I thought you just found that online somewhere and posted it here for my information. If you got it, and your malwarebytes scan found nothing, I¡¯m going to trust Sophos also having found nothing in both the quick and full versions of their scan.
Thanks!
On Nov 29, 2023, at 11:54?AM, David G Brooks via groups.io <davidandtrishab@...> wrote: ?After I¡¯d email you, Janet, I downloaded, installed and ran Malwarebytes.
Here¡¯s a screenshot of my result:-
I hope this helps and that you get a similar result!
David
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Re: Possible hacked computer? Hard to tell if the notice is real or is the hack itself
ps of course no remote scanning. But I think the notice is made to look like it¡¯s coming from the built-in Apple protection you frequently talk about.?
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On Nov 29, 2023, at 12:17?PM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:
? Your computer cannot be scanned for viruses remotely, and definitely without you authorizing it.?
So basically it is never real, if you haven¡¯t installed an AV app. Modern Apple OSes don¡¯t need third party AV apps, as they are built into the OS. ? On Nov 29, 2023, at 10:06, J_Catlady <JanetOliviaCatlady@...> wrote:
? This morning I received a suspicious-looking email purporting to be regarding my paypal account. I normally immediately remove those, but I'd been on paypal recently and I thought as long as I didn't click on anything in the email, it would be safe to simply open it. The minute I opened it, something looked like it started to download. I closed it as soon as I could and deleted it. I then started a quick Sophos scan, which didn't find anything.
About one hour later, I was working on my google account settings (I wanted to remove the auto-reply suggestions for emails). Suddenly a huge warning thing came up on the screen, purporting to be from "Apple Defender." I closed it out as soon as possible so I don't remember the details, but there were multiple levels of screens, screens within screens, with big, red, warnings, including "Do not use or reboot your computer" and stuff about how it had been hacked (I don't remember the exact words). I really had no idea what to do about it besides just close the window. I then started a full (rather than basic) Sophos scan, which is still running.
I'm on a Macbook Pro running Sonoma 14.1.1 but not sure that's relevant. I'm about to see what I can find out about "Apple Defender" but meanwhile thought I'd ask here.
Thanks for any info. -- Janet
-- Janet
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Re: Possible hacked computer? Hard to tell if the notice is real or is the hack itself
Right, Brent, you mentioned that before about not needing anything extra. But David says Apple recommends malware bytes (?) and also, what caused the fake notice and how do I prevent it (and things like it) in future if its not considered a threat? Or are you possibly saying the built-in apple protection quickly got rid of it before my Sophos scan could even find it?
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On Nov 29, 2023, at 12:17?PM, Brent via groups.io <whodo678@...> wrote:
? Your computer cannot be scanned for viruses remotely, and definitely without you authorizing it.?
So basically it is never real, if you haven¡¯t installed an AV app. Modern Apple OSes don¡¯t need third party AV apps, as they are built into the OS. ? On Nov 29, 2023, at 10:06, J_Catlady <JanetOliviaCatlady@...> wrote:
? This morning I received a suspicious-looking email purporting to be regarding my paypal account. I normally immediately remove those, but I'd been on paypal recently and I thought as long as I didn't click on anything in the email, it would be safe to simply open it. The minute I opened it, something looked like it started to download. I closed it as soon as I could and deleted it. I then started a quick Sophos scan, which didn't find anything.
About one hour later, I was working on my google account settings (I wanted to remove the auto-reply suggestions for emails). Suddenly a huge warning thing came up on the screen, purporting to be from "Apple Defender." I closed it out as soon as possible so I don't remember the details, but there were multiple levels of screens, screens within screens, with big, red, warnings, including "Do not use or reboot your computer" and stuff about how it had been hacked (I don't remember the exact words). I really had no idea what to do about it besides just close the window. I then started a full (rather than basic) Sophos scan, which is still running.
I'm on a Macbook Pro running Sonoma 14.1.1 but not sure that's relevant. I'm about to see what I can find out about "Apple Defender" but meanwhile thought I'd ask here.
Thanks for any info. -- Janet
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In that case there¡¯s no significance to your negative result. ?? But thanks for all the info!
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On Nov 29, 2023, at 12:08?PM, David G Brooks via groups.io <davidandtrishab@...> wrote:
?Hi Janet
I found the detail about the fake warning on-line. I have never had it myself. I posted it for your information.
Malwarebytes has been in my toolbox, as it were, since its inception - 2008 IIRC.
Apple Support recommends the use of Malwarebytes.
It¡¯s your call now!
David.
On 29 Nov 2023, at 19:59, J_Catlady <JanetOliviaCatlady@...> wrote:
But did you also get the fake warning? I thought you just found that online somewhere and posted it here for my information. If you got it, and your malwarebytes scan found nothing, I¡¯m going to trust Sophos also having found nothing in both the quick and full versions of their scan.
Thanks!
On Nov 29, 2023, at 11:54?AM, David G Brooks via groups.io <davidandtrishab@...> wrote: ?After I¡¯d email you, Janet, I downloaded, installed and ran Malwarebytes.
Here¡¯s a screenshot of my result:-
I hope this helps and that you get a similar result!
David
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-- Janet
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